This former A- list mostly television actress is trying to blame others for what she did. That will not set well with the judge although, there is no chance she will get more than the recommended sentence.
Definitely Felicity. Trying to blame her daughter's learning differences as the reason for bribing the SAT folks. I have to say, though, that it was just $15k.
For what both Lori and Felicity, they deserve a month or two. They did what so many rich people did just went about it the wrong way and are non violent offenders. This is no different than donating a building then getting your child in. They totally deserve to spend the rest of their lives bunking next to rapists, murderers (who get less time) and assaulters.
What they did was wrong but when illegal rapists get less time.....fuck off.
I do not get the mind set of a person who bribes their child into college "so they (the child) can get a fair shake". WTF? What happened to the days when admission was based on your scores, your grades, your admission essay? in other words, who you are and what you bring to the table at that point in time, no matter your color, creed, financial status. Perks are nice - scholarships for smarts, financial need. But come on, the whole idea is to be educated. At least that is the way it used to be....
"The chair"? I hope you're all being facetious and not a bunch of Madame Defarges! These very entitled ladies merely tried to pass along their good fortune to their children, employing time-honored entitled people methodologies. It was at the expense of other peoples' children but I hardly think "the chair" is in order here. Also, where are the college administrators, not just the one who took the bribes but also the ones who negligently allowed this to happen, and probably continue to happen. They should be getting equal time and attention from law enforcement. College is a joke now, anyway. Completely degraded credential.
@Thia: ‘It was only $15,000?’ Fuck that! She cheated. And didn’t do her daughter any favors by getting her into school if she truly had a learning disability. If I cheated on my SAT’s or GMAT’s, I would’ve been in a great deal of trouble and probably would’ve been prevented from even applying to the schools of my choice. But I didn’t have to cheat, because I studied. You know, the way that it’s supposed to be done. I was sympathetic to Felicity, but she should just shut her fucking mouth at this point. She’s just going to dig herself a hole.
For *what*? The outrage is hilarious. They are two out of many, many parents who were solicited by this school for money. They don't want to go to prison, so give them short prison stints. It will be traumatic enough for them. But they aren't hardcore violent criminals. The school officials are the ones who should really have the book thrown at them.
She'll do a month and then get an exclusive Kneepads cover story and have talk show bookings for months, blah, blah, blah. Maybe stick a rehab in there just for shiggles. The bigger problem is her daughter.
Other point re the bribes: If listed as a donation to the coach or athletic director, then is fraud on their tax return. Lori and her husband made donations from off shore accounts which is problematic as well.
They all lied. If they had made a donation to the schools they would get the IRS write-off but most likely no guarantee for admission. Yes likely but not definite when everyone is donating to the same pool. Narrowing it to a bribe to a particular coach, guaranteed the admission.
If Jussie smollet, who could have provoked race riots, got off free, then so should these two idiots. A heavy fine and much publicised community service will humiliate them enough
You know what I don’t get ? How they think their kids were supposed to function at all once they got in to college! It’s not all fun and games you actually have to do the work to stay alive . I couldn’t see these kids wasting their time trying to be a college student just to make their parents look good .
The amount of the fraud actually factors directly into the penalties each parent is facing. LL is at considerably more risk because her bribes were so much bigger, and she's also plead NG, so she's facing a much stiffer penalty... and rightly so.
As a special ed teacher, her excuse p's me off. It makes people think that kids with disabilities can't get in to schools by their own merits. If her daughter truly has a disability- and I doubt it since she uses it as a prop, she would be able to have services and accommodations both in school and on tests, including SAT tests. That is under the federal law, IDEA. And it Carries into college. I am sick of people abusing the rights of true disabled people to get sympathy for their wrongs.
When the felony solicitation of/instigation of the whole racket *should* be of much bigger interest to the government.
As far as money laundering with the parents in this case, it isn't like we're talking drug or prostitution rings, things that are ongoing, involve far more people, and far more serious violations. It should be looked at proportionately.
The whole thing is entrapment. The feds knew about the scam for months and recruited the perpatrator of the whole scam to entrap a bunch of desperate rich people who feared they brought up their kids stupid instead of smart. They feared their kids would be failures and it would reflect on them as terrible neglectful parents. The most they should get is a week in jail/community service/ suspended sentance/ fines and let the IRS go after them if they used the payments as a tax deduction.
If it takes an SAT score to validate what one learned in high school to prove readiness to attend college then there should be an SAT before receiving a college degree to prove what you learned at the university.
They used their wealth and influence to take away spots in college from kids who truly deserved them. Kids who don't have asshole parents who think they're above the law.
And Longoria's letter was a joke. Poor widdle Mexican girl? More like Texas girl who was a beauty queen.
Sorry, I have no sympathy for Felicity. What I have in life I earned. My family was lower middle class and couldn’t afford my college expenses. I went to college based upon summer earnings and scholarships. No, I ddn’t go to the beach each summer like my friends. I worked for the telephone company. Great pay for a summer job. Thank you unions. During high school I spent 2-3 hours daily doing homework. No parties for me. Based upon my efforts, I gained acceptance to Johns Hopkins University.
@hhstarr I teach seniors...I have "kids from challenging backgrounds" an "the cream of the crop." When you say their excuses piss you off...it doesn't sit right with me. You are assuming that because her parents are wealthy, etc. the learning disability is an excuse. Yes, maybe she has IDEA, but as a teacher of students who struggle to get into the community college and others that are struggling to reach ideal schools...learning disabilities knows no bounds. I have seen parents struggle to try to "even the playing field." I have seen the desperation...
@Lissette, you should feel anger on behalf of the students and families who play by the rules and still struggle to get into colleges. Huffman paid to have her daughter's answers on the SAT altered. No way in hell is that trying to "even the playing field." It's cheating some other kid out of an education
The point of it all was not to help poor Lori's dumb daughters to get a useful education. It was to get them the credential, along with the connections one makes in school. Just as Chinese students who pay triple the outrageous tuition never flunk out, Lori and Felicity's children wouldn't either.
As for connections, well, when Lori was busted her daughter was partying on a yacht with one of the college deans. Not that she was yachting...probably...but she was making the connections.
Felicity Huffman
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Felicity. Trying to blame her daughter's learning differences as the reason for bribing the SAT folks. I have to say, though, that it was just $15k.
ReplyDeleteTo change her SAT answers.
DeleteShe should take the month and thank her lucky stars.
ReplyDeleteLet's just hope Lori Loughlin gets the chair.
For what both Lori and Felicity, they deserve a month or two. They did what so many rich people did just went about it the wrong way and are non violent offenders. This is no different than donating a building then getting your child in. They totally deserve to spend the rest of their lives bunking next to rapists, murderers (who get less time) and assaulters.
ReplyDeleteWhat they did was wrong but when illegal rapists get less time.....fuck off.
I do not get the mind set of a person who bribes their child into college "so they (the child) can get a fair shake". WTF?
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the days when admission was based on your scores, your grades, your admission essay? in other words, who you are and what you bring to the table at that point in time, no matter your color, creed, financial status. Perks are nice - scholarships for smarts, financial need. But come on, the whole idea is to be educated. At least that is the way it used to be....
The chair. Or maybe 20 years on a chain gang in Alabama.
ReplyDeleteI may be in the minority here but i just do not see jail time here. Sure; fines and community service, etc. but jail time seems overkill to me.
ReplyDelete"The chair"? I hope you're all being facetious and not a bunch of Madame Defarges! These very entitled ladies merely tried to pass along their good fortune to their children, employing time-honored entitled people methodologies. It was at the expense of other peoples' children but I hardly think "the chair" is in order here. Also, where are the college administrators, not just the one who took the bribes but also the ones who negligently allowed this to happen, and probably continue to happen. They should be getting equal time and attention from law enforcement. College is a joke now, anyway. Completely degraded credential.
ReplyDeleteI see Felicity doing a month of jail time and then maybe the anklet and she has to stay home. I see LL getting at least a few months.
ReplyDeleteArmartel - 100% agree.
@Thia: ‘It was only $15,000?’ Fuck that! She cheated. And didn’t do her daughter any favors by getting her into school if she truly had a learning disability. If I cheated on my SAT’s or GMAT’s, I would’ve been in a great deal of trouble and probably would’ve been prevented from even applying to the schools of my choice. But I didn’t have to cheat, because I studied. You know, the way that it’s supposed to be done. I was sympathetic to Felicity, but she should just shut her fucking mouth at this point. She’s just going to dig herself a hole.
ReplyDelete+1 @Humor Me
Her husband Bill did not do her any favors with his remarks this week. It came across that she is not that comfortable with being a parent.
ReplyDeleteAnd @TeeHee, +10,000
I'm with J--give her and LL the CHAIR!
ReplyDeleteFor *what*? The outrage is hilarious. They are two out of many, many parents who were solicited by this school for money. They don't want to go to prison, so give them short prison stints. It will be traumatic enough for them. But they aren't hardcore violent criminals. The school officials are the ones who should really have the book thrown at them.
ReplyDeleteShe'll do a month and then get an exclusive Kneepads cover story and have talk show bookings for months, blah, blah, blah. Maybe stick a rehab in there just for shiggles. The bigger problem is her daughter.
ReplyDeleteOther point re the bribes: If listed as a donation to the coach or athletic director, then is fraud on their tax return. Lori and her husband made donations from off shore accounts which is problematic as well.
ReplyDeleteThey all lied. If they had made a donation to the schools they would get the IRS write-off but most likely no guarantee for admission. Yes likely but not definite when everyone is donating to the same pool. Narrowing it to a bribe to a particular coach, guaranteed the admission.
If Jussie smollet, who could have provoked race riots, got off free, then so should these two idiots. A heavy fine and much publicised community service will humiliate them enough
ReplyDeleteYou know what I don’t get ? How they think their kids were supposed to function at all once they got in to college! It’s not all fun and games you actually have to do the work to stay alive . I couldn’t see these kids wasting their time trying to be a college student just to make their parents look good .
ReplyDeletedoes anyone know who was bullying Eva on the set of Desperate Housewives? its in her letter for FH.
ReplyDeleteJust an aside -- those were asinine letters to a judge.
DeleteMy guess is Nicolette
Delete@ Thia would it matter if the cheating only cost her 5 grand or if it were 50? What does only 15 grand mean?
ReplyDeleteThe amount of the fraud actually factors directly into the penalties each parent is facing. LL is at considerably more risk because her bribes were so much bigger, and she's also plead NG, so she's facing a much stiffer penalty... and rightly so.
ReplyDeleteAs a special ed teacher, her excuse p's me off. It makes people think that kids with disabilities can't get in to schools by their own merits. If her daughter truly has a disability- and I doubt it since she uses it as a prop, she would be able to have services and accommodations both in school and on tests, including SAT tests. That is under the federal law, IDEA. And it Carries into college. I am sick of people abusing the rights of true disabled people to get sympathy for their wrongs.
ReplyDeleteGive 'em the "Plastic Chair"! It's more eco friendly and fits in with the Hollywood agenda.
ReplyDeleteShouldnt it be the people within the SAT and Uni's who are more to blame. It seems to me they are the one truly breaking the ethics.
ReplyDeleteThe felony money laundering by the parents is of more interest to the government than an ethics violation.
DeleteWhen the felony solicitation of/instigation of the whole racket *should* be of much bigger interest to the government.
ReplyDeleteAs far as money laundering with the parents in this case, it isn't like we're talking drug or prostitution rings, things that are ongoing, involve far more people, and far more serious violations. It should be looked at proportionately.
The whole thing is entrapment. The feds knew about the scam for months and recruited the perpatrator of the whole scam to entrap a bunch of desperate rich people who feared they brought up their kids stupid instead of smart. They feared their kids would be failures and it would reflect on them as terrible neglectful parents.
ReplyDeleteThe most they should get is a week in jail/community service/ suspended sentance/ fines and let the IRS go after them if they used the payments as a tax deduction.
Gathering evidence without the suspects knowing is not entrapment. LL is going to do significant time.
ReplyDeleteAnd whatever happened to parents teaching their children personal responsibility and integrity?
ReplyDeleteNever mind the whole elitist mindset, just plain honesty and facing up to reality?
Not so much.
SdAuntie - Teri Hatcher
ReplyDeleteWhen all is said and done, the only humane form of capital punishment is the guillotine.
ReplyDeleteRead an interesting take on the SATs.
ReplyDeleteIf it takes an SAT score to validate what one learned in high school to prove readiness to attend college then there should be an SAT before receiving a college degree to prove what you learned at the university.
They used their wealth and influence to take away spots in college from kids who truly deserved them. Kids who don't have asshole parents who think they're above the law.
ReplyDeleteAnd Longoria's letter was a joke. Poor widdle Mexican girl? More like Texas girl who was a beauty queen.
Sorry, I have no sympathy for Felicity. What I have in life I earned. My family was lower middle class and couldn’t afford my college expenses. I went to college based upon summer earnings and scholarships. No, I ddn’t go to the beach each summer like my friends. I worked for the telephone company. Great pay for a summer job. Thank you unions. During high school I spent 2-3 hours daily doing homework. No parties for me. Based upon my efforts, I gained acceptance to Johns Hopkins University.
ReplyDelete@hhstarr I teach seniors...I have "kids from challenging backgrounds" an "the cream of the crop." When you say their excuses piss you off...it doesn't sit right with me. You are assuming that because her parents are wealthy, etc. the learning disability is an excuse. Yes, maybe she has IDEA, but as a teacher of students who struggle to get into the community college and others that are struggling to reach ideal schools...learning disabilities knows no bounds. I have seen parents struggle to try to "even the playing field." I have seen the desperation...
ReplyDelete@Lissette, you should feel anger on behalf of the students and families who play by the rules and still struggle to get into colleges. Huffman paid to have her daughter's answers on the SAT altered. No way in hell is that trying to "even the playing field." It's cheating some other kid out of an education
ReplyDeleteThe point of it all was not to help poor Lori's dumb daughters to get a useful education. It was to get them the credential, along with the connections one makes in school. Just as Chinese students who pay triple the outrageous tuition never flunk out, Lori and Felicity's children wouldn't either.
ReplyDeleteAs for connections, well, when Lori was busted her daughter was partying on a yacht with one of the college deans. Not that she was yachting...probably...but she was making the connections.