After the fiasco that was the alliterate beard, a C list Spanish actress has been brought in to be the new beard of the A- list dual threat actor who is expanding beyond the pay cable show into action movies.
I love him, scratch that, adore him. I haven't had a celebrity crush since Warren Beatty. Having spent my life in Ent. Biz., and a woman whose male friends have ALL been gay, this unsettles me. Not so much re SH but myself...why, why am I so upset? I'll never meet him, nor do I have a desire to. But that my fantasy man is gay....NO!!! I really don't want to know. REALLY. People may hate/tease me for this comment, well, I hate myself. Such a great guy.
I'm going to be in the minority but that's okay. Sam Heughan playing Jamie Fraser was so disappointing. He forced me to give up watching Outlander. The man is fugly. I admit he's really nice and he treats Outlander fans well but handsome Jamie Fraser? Nope, not in this lifetime. I also didn't like the casting for Claire. An overweight book character is played by a stick thin lingerie model? Outlander casting was so disappointing that it forced me to give up watching adaptations. I'm sticking to the books.
Book Claire was overweight? I beg to differ! And Sam Heughan is handsome but not pretty boy-handsome like a lot of male celebs now. Much prefer that in a James Bond.
@Ann I'll agree to disagree with you. I think Sam H was perfectly cast as Jamie Fraser, he's very handsome man. I had my doubts about Catriona Balfe....still not sold on her as Claire but whatever. I still watch Outlander. In the books Claire did seem to be heavier than the actress but that wouldn't make her overweight.
SH problem was that he was apparently super out in the UK, but, now is trying to come back in the closet vs. people not really knowing one or the other like with some other actors.
I just never could get into Outlander and SH is balding hard. LOL
Oh @casstinggirl , don't hate yourself! LOL You are no alone in that sentiment. Ruins the fantasy of tv/ movies.
I also have had gay male friends and I could never phathom being attracted to them or their bfs which I think is why the fantasy is destroyed when you find out an actor is gay. Studios know this as well. It only seems like a problem though when the gay actor is the romantic lead.
And, for the love of GOD I do not want SH as Bond. Henry Cavill was made for the role of Bond. He's got that Peirce and classic Bond look. Never could get into DC. But, to each their own I guess.
But I think he's gorgeous. Beautiful red hair, handsome face and a braw build.
I can believe he loves Claire and that's all I have to believe while watching Outlander.
I thought the pilot sucked and almost did not continue watching but the show drew me in, in part because of SH and the chemistry with Claire. And the unusual concept. (It's been done, and OK it's a bit like an extended Brigadoon but I don't hate that.)
Only complaint: the show is way too rapey. It takes longer to read than to watch, so it might not have seemed that way to the writer/readers. But it's like a rape-a-thon.
I don't have trouble imagining him as a guy living in the 1700s if I see him in modern clothing in pap pix so I've never understood the "I can't imagine him with a woman" thing if an actor came out of a closet. I'm not judging it in others, I'm just saying I don't get it.
LOL I doubt SH is...I have a feeling most actors stay offline/ don't google themselves for their own mental health and let their reps deal with it.
I think it is great that it does not bother you about an actor's personal life.
However, for me, it even goes beyond the gay thing. If I know too much about some actors straight personal life due to tabloids or overexposure it takes me a lot longer/ have a harder time into getting into their future characters or desire to show up at the box office.
I have trouble with Ben Affleck at the moment as well as Johnny Depp. And, as horrible as this was to Aziz Asnari, I cannot watch Parks and Rec without thinking of how he thinks it is sexy fingering a girl then shoving those fingers into her mouth, gagging her with them and then repeat.
Again, takes away from the fantasy. Power to people though that it doesn't' though! :)
Re the paragraph about BA/JD/AA - To me it's another issue if the audience finds the things the actor does in their real life to be reprehensible or repulsive. But I didn't think that was what was being alluded to before. (I still don't assume it is.)
Objecting to supporting their work on moral grounds vs. imagination/ suspending disbelief.
I'm with TeeHee. It's not just overcoming disbelief that a gay actor can be a leading man it's the morally bankrupt behavior that's a major turnoff. I'm aware this isn't a new phenomenon. Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are examples. The males of the Hemsworth family (with the serial cheating) are other examples. Once I was a major fan and today I can't rouse any interest in watching any of their work. I quit watching Outlander because of poor casting not because SH is gay.
Yes, I mean at the end of the day if one cannot get the personal life of an actor (whatever, proclivity, preference or even rumor it is) out of their heads...people are not going to give that movie box office sales, tv shows ratings or streaming clicks.
Once the glass has shattered on a perception of something/someone, it is nearly impossible to put it back together to the way it was before.
An actor being gay or straight doesn't phase me if they are good in the role (and I personally like Sam H. as Jamie), but I agree that when an actor's personal life tips over into being a public spectacle of bad/disturbing behavior it eclipses -- for me -- their ability to bring a sympathetic fictional character to life. Depp & Affleck are good examples, but the biggest one for me is Tom Cruise. Since he came out as a card-carrying cult member (and batshit crazy to boot) I haven't been able to watch him in anything.
Some actors I really try not to learn too much about, so they're not ruined for me.
Definitely a flair about him. Still, that doesn't matter if he can act. I have no idea who he is though so I've no opinion on if he should be Bond or not.
ASkars?
ReplyDeleteSam Heughan?
ReplyDeleteCould be and MacKenzie Mawry.. other actress?
DeleteMackenzie mauzy was the last one, Ochoa is the new one. Sam hueghan is the actor. But I love him.
ReplyDeleteThis kid should be the next James Bond.
ReplyDeleteI can't picture Sam Heughan doing an action movie.
ReplyDeleteSam H was in "The Spy Who Dumped Me."
ReplyDeleteWish no one felt the need to have beards.
I love Sam Heughan too. Agree @Samantha wish there was no need for beards.
ReplyDeleteI love him, scratch that, adore him. I haven't had a celebrity crush since Warren Beatty. Having spent my life in Ent. Biz., and a woman whose male friends have ALL been gay, this unsettles me. Not so much re SH but myself...why, why am I so upset? I'll never meet him, nor do I have a desire to. But that my fantasy man is gay....NO!!! I really don't want to know. REALLY. People may hate/tease me for this comment, well, I hate myself. Such a great guy.
ReplyDeleteI can daydream about Jake G., I don't care who he sleeps with in real life
ReplyDeleteI'm going to be in the minority but that's okay. Sam Heughan playing Jamie Fraser was so disappointing. He forced me to give up watching Outlander. The man is fugly. I admit he's really nice and he treats Outlander fans well but handsome Jamie Fraser? Nope, not in this lifetime. I also didn't like the casting for Claire. An overweight book character is played by a stick thin lingerie model? Outlander casting was so disappointing that it forced me to give up watching adaptations. I'm sticking to the books.
ReplyDeleteBook Claire was overweight? I beg to differ! And Sam Heughan is handsome but not pretty boy-handsome like a lot of male celebs now. Much prefer that in a James Bond.
ReplyDelete@Ann I'll agree to disagree with you. I think Sam H was perfectly cast as Jamie Fraser, he's very handsome man. I had my doubts about Catriona Balfe....still not sold on her as Claire but whatever. I still watch Outlander. In the books Claire did seem to be heavier than the actress but that wouldn't make her overweight.
ReplyDeleteIt's Sam Heughan and the new beard is Spanish actress Christina Ochoa. He wants to be a movie star and she wants to be more famous.
ReplyDeleteHeughan's publicist is Jennifer Allen who fabricated that other fiasco called HiddleSwift.
CDaN has posted a lot of blind items about Heughan's obvious gayness and ridiculous closeting:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.foxella.com/tag/sam-heughan/
Had to look this guy up.
ReplyDeleteYup.
Gayer than a handbag!
SH problem was that he was apparently super out in the UK, but, now is trying to come back in the closet vs. people not really knowing one or the other like with some other actors.
ReplyDeleteI just never could get into Outlander and SH is balding hard. LOL
Oh @casstinggirl , don't hate yourself! LOL You are no alone in that sentiment. Ruins the fantasy of tv/ movies.
ReplyDeleteI also have had gay male friends and I could never phathom being attracted to them or their bfs which I think is why the fantasy is destroyed when you find out an actor is gay. Studios know this as well. It only seems like a problem though when the gay actor is the romantic lead.
And, for the love of GOD I do not want SH as Bond. Henry Cavill was made for the role of Bond. He's got that Peirce and classic Bond look. Never could get into DC. But, to each their own I guess.
Hope he isn't reading these.
ReplyDeleteBut I think he's gorgeous. Beautiful red hair, handsome face and a braw build.
I can believe he loves Claire and that's all I have to believe while watching Outlander.
I thought the pilot sucked and almost did not continue watching but the show drew me in, in part because of SH and the chemistry with Claire. And the unusual concept. (It's been done, and OK it's a bit like an extended Brigadoon but I don't hate that.)
Only complaint: the show is way too rapey. It takes longer to read than to watch, so it might not have seemed that way to the writer/readers. But it's like a rape-a-thon.
I don't have trouble imagining him as a guy living in the 1700s if I see him in modern clothing in pap pix so I've never understood the "I can't imagine him with a woman" thing if an actor came out of a closet. I'm not judging it in others, I'm just saying I don't get it.
LOL I doubt SH is...I have a feeling most actors stay offline/ don't google themselves for their own mental health and let their reps deal with it.
ReplyDeleteI think it is great that it does not bother you about an actor's personal life.
However, for me, it even goes beyond the gay thing. If I know too much about some actors straight personal life due to tabloids or overexposure it takes me a lot longer/ have a harder time into getting into their future characters or desire to show up at the box office.
I have trouble with Ben Affleck at the moment as well as Johnny Depp. And, as horrible as this was to Aziz Asnari, I cannot watch Parks and Rec without thinking of how he thinks it is sexy fingering a girl then shoving those fingers into her mouth, gagging her with them and then repeat.
Again, takes away from the fantasy. Power to people though that it doesn't' though! :)
Re the paragraph about BA/JD/AA - To me it's another issue if the audience finds the things the actor does in their real life to be reprehensible or repulsive. But I didn't think that was what was being alluded to before. (I still don't assume it is.)
ReplyDeleteObjecting to supporting their work on moral grounds vs. imagination/ suspending disbelief.
I'm with TeeHee. It's not just overcoming disbelief that a gay actor can be a leading man it's the morally bankrupt behavior that's a major turnoff. I'm aware this isn't a new phenomenon. Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are examples. The males of the Hemsworth family (with the serial cheating) are other examples. Once I was a major fan and today I can't rouse any interest in watching any of their work. I quit watching Outlander because of poor casting not because SH is gay.
ReplyDeleteYes, I mean at the end of the day if one cannot get the personal life of an actor (whatever, proclivity, preference or even rumor it is) out of their heads...people are not going to give that movie box office sales, tv shows ratings or streaming clicks.
ReplyDeleteOnce the glass has shattered on a perception of something/someone, it is nearly impossible to put it back together to the way it was before.
An actor being gay or straight doesn't phase me if they are good in the role (and I personally like Sam H. as Jamie), but I agree that when an actor's personal life tips over into being a public spectacle of bad/disturbing behavior it eclipses -- for me -- their ability to bring a sympathetic fictional character to life. Depp & Affleck are good examples, but the biggest one for me is Tom Cruise. Since he came out as a card-carrying cult member (and batshit crazy to boot) I haven't been able to watch him in anything.
ReplyDeleteSome actors I really try not to learn too much about, so they're not ruined for me.
Definitely a flair about him. Still, that doesn't matter if he can act. I have no idea who he is though so I've no opinion on if he should be Bond or not.
ReplyDeletePlease - as much as I love Outlander and Sam H , in no way is he A- or a dual threat , can he sing or dance?
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