Maybe if Lori hired better attorneys, they would break it down for her. The wire transfers & fake profiles are the overt acts. The emails show conspiracy and intent. Just take the plea.
It seems they all think what worked for Hillary will work for them. That the right “narrative” makes the problems go away. Don’t they realize having your own personal button man like the Clintons makes those problems go away.
Those are crimes, but you need evidence to prove a crime has been committed. Without evidence, you are making a groundless accusation. I'm not a fan and find her annoying, and think there's a lot going on that may be unscrupulous, however, being annoying and unscrupulous isn't a crime.
Treason? She's trying to undermine the lawfully established line of succession?
I definitely thought LL was listening to a publicist and shutting out her lawyers as soon as she breezed into the courtroom grinning like she's Zsazsa Gabor, and signing autographs. It's obvious she has zero awareness of the ethics of her actions. Also obvious she has no understanding or respect for the law.
Felicity Huffman, on the other hand, got it exactly right. Why? Because she's intelligent and aware. She stepped up to the plate like an adult. Is her name still being plastered in scandal stories on the daily? No-sir-ee.
Maybe LL's lawyers think they can get a better deal down the line if she pleads not guilty first. Sometimes it's all a negotiation. Then again her daughters seem pretty dumb and I don't think they got that from their father...
I think this is more proof of Lori being in complete denial about the potential of real consequences to the real things she did...her mind and money are set on getting her career back, forgetting her current actions are having further effect upon the weight of those consequences.
@SD Auntie @Lurking: I’m not saying it’s true but I’ve heard it from a number of sources and she was definitely wearing a moon bump throughout the pregnancy. No doctor has signed off of the birth, which makes it suspect.
You seem like a very sweet girl but yes it is wishful thinking based on a group of homely hags. MM is a brat and a bitch but these latest rumor monger should be bitch slapped with a lawsuit of defamation and sent to the poor house. Ask James Woods. He sued his tormentor and WON.
Royal baby - I read DEEP in the Daily Mail article that Will & Kate have apparently been calling little Prince George "Archie" in private for years.
Think about that. If true (seems to be), think about the unbelievable levels of cuntitude it takes to do that. Wow. This is the sort of thing that makes me believe she may well be a sociopath. WTF!?!?
Because I can tell you (from personal experience) that is one of the meanest things you can do to a woman (especially a childless woman—IDK how that might feel for a woman who already has a child with a nickname, though).
A guy I thought was my fiancé named his first child what I wanted to name my first child (if I had a son). I didn’t think I wanted children before that, but when I heard they had taken the name I wanted to name my 1st son, it felt like they took my child away from me. And now if I ever have a real son, I can’t name him what I initially wanted anymore.
To this day, I hope that’s just a fake name to protect the child from the harassment my ex gets from work. Because if it were the real given name, it would’ve been so messed up.
Turns out it was just an honest coincidence. But when it happened, I was walking aimlessly at the IKEA getting into a dark, dark place.
Everytime I remember those days now I’m grateful I survived it and came out alive.
@Hunter: George recently introduced himself to someone as Archie. Even if he was joking around, as kids do, it’s a little too coincidental. Regardless, do you have any doubt that she’s a sociopath?
Apologies for the conversation hijack, but baby Sussex now revealed to be Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. Harrison purportedly for Harry's son, but Archie has no real reason- Archibald/Archie isn't a BRF name, BUT apparently Archie IS Prince George's nickname. IDK but isn't that kind of a bitch move- out of all potential names you name your child the same thing that they call his cousin? Is this the source of the frost between PW and PH? I could see where PW would be irked.. IMO kind of similar to announcing you're pregnant at Bea's wedding (bitch move-ily speaking, that is)...
"I’m not saying it’s true but I’ve heard it from a number of sources"
That's called hearsay and it's not evidence. It's someone spouting off to get clicks.
"she was definitely wearing a moon bump throughout the pregnancy"
What are you basing your opinion on? What others have said or did you see it with your own eyes?
She had a home birth. No one has claimed there were doctors present. A doctor shouldn't sign off on a birth they were not present for. Until a doctor comes forward stating that they observed the birth, it's unlikely any doctor will sign off. Whatever "signing off" means.
LL will do time - possibly a significant amount, but of course not nearly as much as someone who isn't wealthy.
Courts don't like when people smile and sign autographs before their arraignments, lol. And they have zero sympathy for anyone who claims they "didn't know that was a law". Personally, I'm offended by her arrogance, and I actually hope her daughters have some price to pay as well. I don't believe for a moment that they were unaware this was going on.
@Hunter. You are right. It is well known that Archie has always been Prince George's Nickname/pet name from his parents. Harry and Meghan would have known that. I find it incredible that Harry would have named his own son Archie, especially as Archie a diminutive not a full name. It’s such a dick move. I think the jury is still out on MM, but she really doesn’t like William because he told Harry not to rush into marriage with her.
@Lurking: First it was said that she gave birth at home, then it was changed that she gave birth at a hospital. Yet nobody saw her leaving Frogmore nor arriving or leaving the hospital. Even if she gave birth at home, there would be a midwife or doctor on hand. Who do you think gave birth to the baby—Harry & Doria? What I mean by ‘signing off’ is that the doctors and midwifes who attend the birth sign the announcement which is then posted on the easel in front of BP. Since he is in line for the throne, it must be proven that she gave birth to him ‘from her body.’
She was rushed to the hospital due to complications from being high risk. There is protocol and laws against disclosing information by hospital staff. We have HIPAA laws that are strictly enforced.
I always got the feeling that George was coached on what to tell strangers if they asked him his name and he and the adults came up with Archie. Thus, when George was out walking with his granny and a random struck up a convo with George, the young prince did not divulge his real name.
At 37, first baby and a week overdue in the UK it would be normal to move the mother to a hospital as it likely they would induce her. Baby could have come before being induced. We don’t need to know the details. As long as the baby is healthy, everyone or nearly everyone is happy, that’s the main thing,
Supposedly the Archie is a nod to Archibald Campbell, a name from Diana's side (the Earl of Argyll, Scotland). It's a bit odd because in history, Archibald Campbell, 9th Earl of Argyll, was condemned to death in 1681 on charges of treason and libel, only to escape to Scotland where he stupidly became involved in the Popish Plot and then later lead Argyll's Rebellion (1685) in which he and other Scottish exiles tried to overthrow King James II.
Even better, Archibald was captured near Dumbarton and, because even though he had escaped his treason charges in 1681, he was considered legally "dead" so they didn't know how to charge him, lol. He ended up being beheaded though under the old treason charge. What a great ancestor to name your child after!
@Brayson: That’s the point. DNA has not been proven.
@SD Auntie: No matter the circumstances of the birth, a doctor(s) sign off on the announcement that’s posted in front of BP for a birth in the RF. Nothing to do with HIPAA. It has to do with succession. You can look up every else’s announcement on line and you will see it.
Even if she gave birth at home, there would be a midwife or doctor on hand."
Yeah, so. Doesn't mean they have to sign anything other than a legally required document. You realize that the announcement posted on the easel is a courtesy and likely traditional, but not a legal requirement. I can't find any evidence Zara Philip's babies were announced in the same way. Maybe you are better at google and can dig one up. Perhaps for Prince Edward's spawn as well.
Who do you think gave birth to the baby—Harry & Doria?
No, I'm not an idiot. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, so until there is evidence that the baby was adopted or produced by a surrogate, I'm going to go with the baby is MM's.
As a side not, you may want to take a look at her feet in pictures from today/yesterday. They are swollen and puffy. Very likely due to all the water retention from the last few weeks of a pregnancy.
What I mean by ‘signing off’ is that the doctors and midwifes who attend the birth sign the announcement which is then posted on the easel in front of BP.
Tradition and courtesy. Please provide a source that it is a legal requirement, otherwise, you're chasing shadows with your conspiracy theory.
Since he is in line for the throne, it must be proven that she gave birth to him ‘from her body.’
According to the Succession to the Crown Act of 2013, all that is required is that the Queen consent to the marriage:
"A person who (when the person marries) is one of the 6 persons next in the line of succession to the Crown must obtain the consent of Her Majesty before marrying.
...
(3) The effect of a person’s failure to comply with subsection (1) is that the person and the person’s descendants from the marriage are disqualified from succeeding to the Crown."
Archie is adorable and I’d like the name of Meghan’s jail because she looked amazing lol. Archie has a wikipedia page and his,very own page on the royal family website. I can’t wait to see the next phots and the Christening as well...
@ Sd Auntie... don't get me wrong, MM isn't someone I would trust, no way, no how. There are enough true and verified despicable things she's done to warrant watching your back when she's involved, don't need to start making stuff up.
LL's daughters must humiliated to leave college, and to be exposed as too dumb to pass the entrance exams. Hubby's probably not happy, either. There must be a lot of turmoil in that $35 million mansion.
Troll do not lie. I work in the health care industry and know lots. You go ahead and demand that DNA test and ill sit here with my popcorn laughing at u and your ilk wasting lots of UK taxpayer dollars. Happen to have some free time this week and work 40+ hours a week. I happen to.like aquagirl and think she is a misguided sweetie.
I have been on CDAN for over a year and I have never seen Sd Auntie bully anyone. Highly opinionated yes, but bullying no. If she was fully anti Markle I don’t think you would be calling her out.
@Papinjay: this picture... http://prntscr.com/nm7xpz She's puffy all the way up to the ankle. Those feet are retaining water. If it was just from her feet being stuffed into the shoes, there would be a bulge, but the rest of the food wouldn't look puffy.
I think she's a despicable person, but don't think she faked a pregnancy.
She is puffy all over (I suspect possible pre or pre pre eclampsia) and waddling lol, clearly just gave birth,(not dogging her on her looks. She looked beautiful and was glowing)
The probably either asked George what he would name the baby and he said Archie and they liked it, or they told him the baby was going to be named Archie and he liked it.
That freak skippy is saying “protection doesn’t bring them to hospital.” No,freak, the news article about Portland (which has a tunnel byw) said Harry, Meghan and Doria went in one car and the protection officers followed in their Car. DUH
The trolls over there get hung up in the dumbest things.
There will be a DNA test because no royal physician signed off on the announcement. That's just standard operating procedure to ensure that the child is of Royal Descent. That would be the same if Kate had her child at a hospital or at home and it wasn't witnessed by the Royal Physician (who are vetted prior to the birth to ensure no shenanigans are afoot).
Lady Louise had a royal birth announcement on November 10, 2003 but I'm not 100% about the easel. I know that when she was born it was really touch and go because her mum nearly died and Louise was premature. That could possibly be why but I'm not sure. She did have it announced from the palace though.
Unknown, for all you know, Harry showed HM a video of the baby exciting from MM’s uterus;you don’t know shit and you aren’t entitled to know either so sit down and shut up.
Archie (not archibald) is like the 8th mist popular boy name in England, so I guess they were All named after the poor unfortunate soul who was beheaded. This is why you all are called trolls. You all are so fucking stupid. It never ends with your lunacy.
Gee, Scandi, you think daily fail got something right for once?
Oh and hey trolls, it’s Mountbatten-Windsor because that’s the name. Use google for a change instead of guessing. Yes, there is a hyphen because it a combination of two last names
I clearly said “I hope it’s not true” and questioned whether it might just be an untrue “rumour”?
Not everyone here is a “hater”, some of us just comment on things we’ve been through in our lives.
Do you just come here and attack every single one of the people who comment on Meghan Markle unless they leave an overwhelmingly positive fawny comment, even if they’re neutral?
And you don't know either. Even if there was a god damn video, she would still have to be DNA tested to verify it was of his blood.
Do you really think that none of William and Kate's children have been tested either? If so, that's just incredibly naive. In today's era, they would absolutely do that as a matter of procedure and security. It might not be advertised but do you really think that the RF isn't going take steps to verify that anyone in line for succession is eligible for said position? There are very clear rules regarding eligibility.
You speak of entitlement but just told me to sit down and shut up because I dared to voice logic. Nothing I have said so far rings of conspiracy or ignorance, so please, kindly stfu. You have your thoughts on the matter and I have mine.
J, I’m still trying to figure out what else you think comes out of a uterus besides a baby and lining that is shed once a month. Or maybe you don’t know the difference bwetween all those “lady parts” in/up there. 🤷🏼♀️
JFC Tatty. They SAID THEY NAMED THE KID AFTER DIANA'S ANCESTOR AND SPECIFICALLY STATED IT WAS ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL, 9th EARL OF ARGYLL.
Take your conspiracy shit and shove it! They even said that's who they named the kid after! Lord above, you're thick. Not everything that is being stated here comes with tinfoil hats.
Okay Tatty. Do a search on the internet and see what pops up. Because numerous news outlets and entertainment outlets are proposing that the name is a nod to Diana's (and Harry's) distant relative. I hardly doubt outlets like AOL and People of all things are fodder for us Merkle trolls. You got me.
And I'm a troll for researching the name? I'm a troll for looking up the significance of the name and seeing the history behind it? Wow. Who knew that something called "research" made me a troll? Damn. Looks like I was I was foiled again.
Give me a fucking break. You just hate the fact that someone is daring to question the narrative. I'm waiting to see what comes of all this conspiracy bullshit just like anyone else, but seriously, fuck off with your drama. I saw that it was mentioned that he was possibly named after Diana's past relative, looked up the significance behind it, and BAM, there it was. Not rocket science. No trolls made that up but go ahead and think what you want. Obviously, your synapses are struggling tonight.
No shit Sherlock. It's a diminutive of Archibald. Archie is a variation of that name. Are you really that daft?
Stop grasping at straws, please. Next you're going to tell me that naming a kid Bill or Liam isn't a form of William, or that Elise or Betty isn't a variant of Elizabeth. You don't have to name someone the exact version of a relative's name for it to be a nod to it or to pay respects. Archibald is the formal version of the name and Archie is a common diminutive form, but that doesn't negate where it derived from.
I am not a royalist or anti-royalist so I look at this a bit differently. When Harry got with Meghan he was a fully functioning adult. He chose her and obviously adores her and they both look very very happy. Megan had family,press and complete strangers rip her to shreds and I think she handled it beautifully. Whats not to love about them as a couple. And Archie is cute
Personally, I thought today's appearance was the first where I believed she physically carried a baby. I guess the years of yoga kept her exceptionally nimble up to maternity leave. Who knows which sources to believe anymore, but on some program today, they said that once the baby went several days past due date, the plans for homebirth were precautionarily scrapped. Then they proceeded to give details of how posh Portland hospital is, and how it has a private entrance, etc. As for the name, im not used to the diminutive on the birth certificate, but whatever. Of all of the relatives on the tree, this ancestor doesn't seem like the one to honor first, but, again, maybe there's more to the story. However, I agree with Hunter that, if they knew Archie was a bona fide nickname of George's, and there wasnt some sort of discussion with the Cambridges, that would be a clinically f'd up move. One of those subtly psycho moves that seems benign to the clueless observer, yet infuriates the target who understands every bit of the calculation and intention behind it. Dont know that was the case, but some of her past actions put it in the realm of possibility. Im assuming everything is legit, or, after seeing Harry and Royals so happy with the baby, it would all just be beyond awful for anything shocking to come out.
Meghan's appearance with harry and baby was the most genuine and dazed I've ever seen her. Nervous, even. Her swollen face, something about her hair, her dazed look and demeanor, I felt that was closest we have seen of the "real Meghan." I do believe they want to be stars. I do believe they want to be famous celebrities, and they want to do and say what they please. I believe that they want to be in America. For Frogmore has not been renovated because they will never live there. The problem with these 2 is their dishonesty and disingenuous behaviour. It feels like they (more specifically, she) manipulate the public. If they start telling us the truth they will gain many more fans and allies.
So, I read that he may be titled the Earl of Dumbarton....so if the story about Archibald Campbell is true (as read above) and he was named after this Archibald, then it's pretty fitting, eh?
@ Jen.. agreed. Also, IDK what Auntie is prattling on about re "we have HIPPA privacy laws that are strictly enforced" and any info leaking out... yes WE do. We as in America, and the Health Insurance Portability and Privacy Act, signed into law by Clinton in the mid 1990's. England/UK/Britian does NOT have HIPPA. They do have the DPA (Data Protection Act). Kind of lessens the credibility of your information when you're quoting a US law to support your UK point IMO
Did anyone else find it odd yesterday when Harry said ”his changes everyday” when asked who Archie looks like? Given the child was born only 48 hours before - supposedly.
Goddammit. I thought this thread was gonna be all about bashing on the cunt LL and her idiotic "strategy" and somehow it morphed into the royal twits? Can't we keep those arguments sequestered to their way-too-frequent blinds?
Meanwhile.. back to the actual conversation at hand... Lori Loughlin can suck it. Her husband and daughters can also suck it. They are beyond arrogant. Outrageous sense of entitlement and privilege of the rich. IMO her daughters knew what the deal was- how could they not when they had to pose for pictures on rowing machines to be shopped onto an actual sculling boat, and they must have had some sort of communication from the actually sculling team while in school, if for no other reason than the team picture. Her kids took slots from legitimate students, an egregious abuse of the system, then mom and dad feel free to write off the $500k as a tax deduction and screw the tax payers who actually pay their fair share. I said it before, I'll say it again..don't mess with tax fraud, it'll get you caught in a RICO investigation, you're going to do time. If they got Capone and Gotti that way, they'll get you too.
As for Archie being a nickname of George's, apparently Kate and Wills call him "Tips" because he's called PG at school.
Jeez, you people get into the stupidest arguments. I call my kids all kinds of stuff, and always have. Just in case you're wondering I wouldn't be offended if you stole my kid's nickname of "Weasel."
And Earl of Dumbarton is one of Harry's subsidiary titles so Archie will probably use it. Or maybe not.
Archie is out of the line of succession as he has been given no title. This negates the need for a DNA test and the child no longer needs to be proven as Harry's as it is essentially disinherited from the monarchy.
See? So all y'all can shut it.
Vita - yeah it's mind blowing to us with values and morals but holy shit I actually think she might be that cray in which case, WTF Harry!?!?
Archie can ONLY use the Earl of Dumbarton as a favor while Harry is alive and won't actually receive the title until Harry is dead. He will never be in line to the throne as he has no HRH appended to his name, full stop.
And no, the queen is NOT going to be giving him one later, that's ridic.
SD Auntie - my oh my look at you all fired up lol!!
I was under the impression the Queen had to approve the name. I find it hard to believe that if it was in fact a real nickname for George she would sign off on it.
Also, having had 2 babies and now carrying my third, you could tell she was actually pregnant when they introduced that baby. She had pregnant face before, but the amount of fluid you lose for potentially weeks after delivery is ridiculous and make you look like a puffer fish. She was completely swollen, but looked lovely.
I feel bad for them. There is no actual proof that she's a "b*tch" or "difficult". I think people just hear a rumor and run with it. Almost like people enjoy ripping strangers to shreds to make themselves feel better. Go figure.
I just had to weigh in on MM after birth pictures. I birthed 4 babies, and she while looking absolutely beautiful looked like a woman who birthed a baby in the not so far past. Those of you whom are convinced that she hasn't have you had a baby? There are signs most of us have after we have done so and I see them in her.
Hunter is correct up until Charles assumes the throne, then what Krab said is correct. The parents can choose, like Princess Anne did, not to let her children be titled (Anne refused to let HRM grant Zara and Peter any titles or honors) but once Charles assumes the throne, he has the right to grant the title of "Prince" to baby Archie. Queen Elizabeth can but probably will not grant baby Archie the title of Prince (it's normally not done for great-grandchildren of a reigning monarch but she could if she wanted - at least that's what my mum said when we discussed this last night).
If they use any kind of titles for Archie, he cannot have them in the US. You have to renounce any kind of titles to retain US Citizenship and given his eligibility for dual citizenship (like I have) he cannot use any titles in the US. That could partially be why but I suspect they are waiting for Charles to assume the throne. Certain titles are only granted by the reigning king/queen and are not inherited or assumed; so it would come down to what Charles decided to deign them upon his coronation.
That said, I still suspect there is a DNA test in the works given that a Royal Physician didn't sign off. Even though they refused to give him any titles, he is still formally listed in the line of succession. He is currently #7, ahead of the Duke of York (Prince Andrew, younger brother to Charles and Anne), and then his daughters (Beatrice and Eugenie) follow. After that comes the Queen's last child, Prince Edward (Duke of Wessex), and his children after that. So who knows what is going to happen.
I don’t usually care about royals, but I was invited to the 2013 Kroningsdag (coronation, not the usual Koninginnedag/Koningsdag) celebrations in Jakarta.
So that year I paid a little more attention out of respect for my hosts (although I don’t usually care) and I remember that year on the parody accounts on Twitter people were making all sorts of jokes about how “Charles will never be king”. 🖤 LMAO. 👏🏼😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😹😹😹😹😭👑
What some of you are missing is that when Charles becomes King, "Archie" who is indeed named after Archibald Campbell becomes an HRH. So @Tatty research before you go off on people, Those in the line of succession are signed off on AKA witnessed, tho not always announced. Poor lad Archie is named after a traitor beheaded as it seemed romantic to the rule-breakers doing things their way. Yeah plus "Harrison, Harry's son as if that's all it would take.
Lori Loughlin
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ReplyDelete+1 Lori - read an article this morning in which she thinks she will do no time. Have fun in fantasy land...o mean jail.
ReplyDeleteWait paying off people to lie, isn't this how she got in trouble in the first place? ;)
ReplyDeleteLoughlin, Lohan, Argento...
ReplyDelete...why say alliterative when shithead will do?
excellent comments, lol!
ReplyDeleteAww man, I was sure this was Meghan Markle. Had my popcorn ready and everything!🍿😃
ReplyDeleteBad move, Lori. You just don’t get it, do you? It’s clear that your daughters have inherited your level of intelligence.
ReplyDeleteMeghan Markle
ReplyDeleteWhat legal troubles is MM in that she has retained attorneys?
ReplyDelete@Lurking: Fraud/Treason
ReplyDeleteIh Aquagirl that's a lie spread by miserable Mischi .
DeleteI read the oldest daughter got a target letter from the feds, meaning she's under investigation now too.
ReplyDeleteOh, I forgot Markle and Riveter in my list of alliterative jerkoffs.
ReplyDeleteMaybe if Lori hired better attorneys, they would break it down for her. The wire transfers & fake profiles are the overt acts. The emails show conspiracy and intent. Just take the plea.
ReplyDeleteIt seems they all think what worked for Hillary will work for them. That the right “narrative” makes the problems go away. Don’t they realize having your own personal button man like the Clintons makes those problems go away.
DeleteThose are crimes, but you need evidence to prove a crime has been committed. Without evidence, you are making a groundless accusation. I'm not a fan and find her annoying, and think there's a lot going on that may be unscrupulous, however, being annoying and unscrupulous isn't a crime.
ReplyDeleteTreason? She's trying to undermine the lawfully established line of succession?
+100000 lurking!! Being a bitch and difficult is not treason. Excellent rebuttal
DeleteI definitely thought LL was listening to a publicist and shutting out her lawyers as soon as she breezed into the courtroom grinning like she's Zsazsa Gabor, and signing autographs. It's obvious she has zero awareness of the ethics of her actions. Also obvious she has no understanding or respect for the law.
ReplyDeleteFelicity Huffman, on the other hand, got it exactly right. Why? Because she's intelligent and aware. She stepped up to the plate like an adult. Is her name still being plastered in scandal stories on the daily? No-sir-ee.
You'll still trying to dog MM when clearly this was Lori L. SMDH.
ReplyDeleteHow has Enty not posted a royal baby blind yet? Or did I miss it?
ReplyDeleteMaybe LL's lawyers think they can get a better deal down the line if she pleads not guilty first. Sometimes it's all a negotiation. Then again her daughters seem pretty dumb and I don't think they got that from their father...
ReplyDeleteI think this is more proof of Lori being in complete denial about the potential of real consequences to the real things she did...her mind and money are set on getting her career back, forgetting her current actions are having further effect upon the weight of those consequences.
ReplyDelete@SD Auntie @Lurking: I’m not saying it’s true but I’ve heard it from a number of sources and she was definitely wearing a moon bump throughout the pregnancy. No doctor has signed off of the birth, which makes it suspect.
ReplyDeleteYou seem like a very sweet girl but yes it is wishful thinking based on a group of homely hags. MM is a brat and a bitch but these latest rumor monger should be bitch slapped with a lawsuit of defamation and sent to the poor house. Ask James Woods. He sued his tormentor and WON.
DeleteRoyal baby - I read DEEP in the Daily Mail article that Will & Kate have apparently been calling little Prince George "Archie" in private for years.
ReplyDeleteThink about that. If true (seems to be), think about the unbelievable levels of cuntitude it takes to do that. Wow. This is the sort of thing that makes me believe she may well be a sociopath. WTF!?!?
WOW HUNTER REALLY?!
DeleteWhere did you hear that? I hope that’s not true.
Because I can tell you (from personal experience) that is one of the meanest things you can do to a woman (especially a childless woman—IDK how that might feel for a woman who already has a child with a nickname, though).
A guy I thought was my fiancé named his first child what I wanted to name my first child (if I had a son). I didn’t think I wanted children before that, but when I heard they had taken the name I wanted to name my 1st son, it felt like they took my child away from me. And now if I ever have a real son, I can’t name him what I initially wanted anymore.
To this day, I hope that’s just a fake name to protect the child from the harassment my ex gets from work. Because if it were the real given name, it would’ve been so messed up.
Turns out it was just an honest coincidence. But when it happened, I was walking aimlessly at the IKEA getting into a dark, dark place.
Everytime I remember those days now I’m grateful I survived it and came out alive.
Oh Hunter nevermind when I said “where didn’t you hear that?!” You obviously stated that you read that from the Daily Mail.
DeleteI wasn’t thinking straight.
Such upsetting news.
(Or Rumour?)
*on the birth
ReplyDeleteyeah the baby wasn't natural born, Aquagirl is spot on, the baby is from a stork or wherever George, Amal, and soon Priyanka got theirs
ReplyDelete@Hunter: George recently introduced himself to someone as Archie. Even if he was joking around, as kids do, it’s a little too coincidental.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, do you have any doubt that she’s a sociopath?
Apologies for the conversation hijack, but baby Sussex now revealed to be Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. Harrison purportedly for Harry's son, but Archie has no real reason- Archibald/Archie isn't a BRF name, BUT apparently Archie IS Prince George's nickname. IDK but isn't that kind of a bitch move- out of all potential names you name your child the same thing that they call his cousin? Is this the source of the frost between PW and PH? I could see where PW would be irked.. IMO kind of similar to announcing you're pregnant at Bea's wedding (bitch move-ily speaking, that is)...
ReplyDeleteThey probably discussed it with their friends prior to choosing one. ALL parents do that. OMG
ReplyDeleteLOL.. we all got on the Archie train at once!!!
ReplyDelete@ Aquagirl:
ReplyDelete"I’m not saying it’s true but I’ve heard it from a number of sources"
That's called hearsay and it's not evidence. It's someone spouting off to get clicks.
"she was definitely wearing a moon bump throughout the pregnancy"
What are you basing your opinion on? What others have said or did you see it with your own eyes?
She had a home birth. No one has claimed there were doctors present. A doctor shouldn't sign off on a birth they were not present for. Until a doctor comes forward stating that they observed the birth, it's unlikely any doctor will sign off. Whatever "signing off" means.
LL will do time - possibly a significant amount, but of course not nearly as much as someone who isn't wealthy.
ReplyDeleteCourts don't like when people smile and sign autographs before their arraignments, lol. And they have zero sympathy for anyone who claims they "didn't know that was a law". Personally, I'm offended by her arrogance, and I actually hope her daughters have some price to pay as well. I don't believe for a moment that they were unaware this was going on.
@Hunter. You are right. It is well known that Archie has always been Prince George's Nickname/pet name from his parents. Harry and Meghan would have known that. I find it incredible that Harry would have named his own son Archie, especially as Archie a diminutive not a full name. It’s such a dick move. I think the jury is still out on MM, but she really doesn’t like William because he told Harry not to rush into marriage with her.
ReplyDelete@Lurking: First it was said that she gave birth at home, then it was changed that she gave birth at a hospital. Yet nobody saw her leaving Frogmore nor arriving or leaving the hospital. Even if she gave birth at home, there would be a midwife or doctor on hand. Who do you think gave birth to the baby—Harry & Doria? What I mean by ‘signing off’ is that the doctors and midwifes who attend the birth sign the announcement which is then posted on the easel in front of BP. Since he is in line for the throne, it must be proven that she gave birth to him ‘from her body.’
ReplyDeleteShe was rushed to the hospital due to complications from being high risk. There is protocol and laws against disclosing information by hospital staff. We have HIPAA laws that are strictly enforced.
DeleteNever seen this type of conspiracy theories about a freaking baby. Sad times indeed
DeleteI always got the feeling that George was coached on what to tell strangers if they asked him his name and he and the adults came up with Archie. Thus, when George was out walking with his granny and a random struck up a convo with George, the young prince did not divulge his real name.
ReplyDeleteI read today that Lori L. is suicidal because she's so upset about the situation. Yeah, right.
ReplyDelete@Meredith. I know people in the same circles.
ReplyDeleteAt 37, first baby and a week overdue in the UK it would be normal to move the mother to a hospital as it likely they would induce her. Baby could have come before being induced. We don’t need to know the details. As long as the baby is healthy, everyone or nearly everyone is happy, that’s the main thing,
ReplyDeleteHey as long as the DNA matches who cares? Might have been the only way they could have a child.
ReplyDeleteSupposedly the Archie is a nod to Archibald Campbell, a name from Diana's side (the Earl of Argyll, Scotland). It's a bit odd because in history, Archibald Campbell, 9th Earl of Argyll, was condemned to death in 1681 on charges of treason and libel, only to escape to Scotland where he stupidly became involved in the Popish Plot and then later lead Argyll's Rebellion (1685) in which he and other Scottish exiles tried to overthrow King James II.
ReplyDeleteEven better, Archibald was captured near Dumbarton and, because even though he had escaped his treason charges in 1681, he was considered legally "dead" so they didn't know how to charge him, lol. He ended up being beheaded though under the old treason charge. What a great ancestor to name your child after!
@Brayson: That’s the point. DNA has not been proven.
ReplyDelete@SD Auntie: No matter the circumstances of the birth, a doctor(s) sign off on the announcement that’s posted in front of BP for a birth in the RF. Nothing to do with HIPAA. It has to do with succession. You can look up every else’s announcement on line and you will see it.
@Aquagirl:
ReplyDeleteEven if she gave birth at home, there would be a midwife or doctor on hand."
Yeah, so. Doesn't mean they have to sign anything other than a legally required document. You realize that the announcement posted on the easel is a courtesy and likely traditional, but not a legal requirement. I can't find any evidence Zara Philip's babies were announced in the same way. Maybe you are better at google and can dig one up. Perhaps for Prince Edward's spawn as well.
Who do you think gave birth to the baby—Harry & Doria?
No, I'm not an idiot. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, so until there is evidence that the baby was adopted or produced by a surrogate, I'm going to go with the baby is MM's.
As a side not, you may want to take a look at her feet in pictures from today/yesterday. They are swollen and puffy. Very likely due to all the water retention from the last few weeks of a pregnancy.
What I mean by ‘signing off’ is that the doctors and midwifes who attend the birth sign the announcement which is then posted on the easel in front of BP.
Tradition and courtesy. Please provide a source that it is a legal requirement, otherwise, you're chasing shadows with your conspiracy theory.
Since he is in line for the throne, it must be proven that she gave birth to him ‘from her body.’
According to the Succession to the Crown Act of 2013, all that is required is that the Queen consent to the marriage:
"A person who (when the person marries) is one of the 6 persons next in the line of succession to the Crown must obtain the consent of Her Majesty before marrying.
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(3) The effect of a person’s failure to comply with subsection (1) is that the person and the person’s descendants from the marriage are disqualified from succeeding to the Crown."
Bravo @ lurking👏🏼
DeleteDo Not Lie, that's what she does.
ReplyDeleteAnd u dont J? Wow and i actually felt sorry for u....guess its all an act
DeleteArchie is adorable and I’d like the name of Meghan’s jail because she looked amazing lol. Archie has a wikipedia page and his,very own page on the royal family website. I can’t wait to see the next phots and the Christening as well...
ReplyDeleteOh and Loti’s Hubris is going to get her the max prison
ReplyDeleteThe sign outside BP is a prop for tourists. It’s not a legal document, lol
ReplyDeleteMM is wearing 3-inch stilettos in the latest photos.
ReplyDeleteHer feet are not swollen.
And, she's still wearing the pillow.
J
ReplyDeleteLove it!!!
@ Sd Auntie... don't get me wrong, MM isn't someone I would trust, no way, no how. There are enough true and verified despicable things she's done to warrant watching your back when she's involved, don't need to start making stuff up.
ReplyDeleteAs i said before, she is a bitch and not up for the jon. But subjecting an innocent baby to this, i draw the line.
DeleteJob.not jon. Lol
DeleteThe birth of Lady Louise didn’t have an easel
ReplyDeleteLL's daughters must humiliated to leave college, and to be exposed as too dumb to pass the entrance exams. Hubby's probably not happy, either. There must be a lot of turmoil in that $35 million mansion.
ReplyDeleteTroll do not lie. I work in the health care industry and know lots. You go ahead and demand that DNA test and ill sit here with my popcorn laughing at u and your ilk wasting lots of UK taxpayer dollars. Happen to have some free time this week and work 40+ hours a week. I happen to.like aquagirl and think she is a misguided sweetie.
ReplyDeleteI have been on CDAN for over a year and I have never seen Sd Auntie bully anyone. Highly opinionated yes, but bullying no. If she was fully anti Markle I don’t think you would be calling her out.
ReplyDelete+1 Sd Auntie
ReplyDeleteThere is no DNA test. The trolls make this shit up and then use it to prove or disprove things in their sad pathetic lives
Thanks @Tatty.
DeleteThe kid will be 25 and they will still be waiting for her to go to jail for treason lol
ReplyDelete@Papinjay: this picture... http://prntscr.com/nm7xpz She's puffy all the way up to the ankle. Those feet are retaining water. If it was just from her feet being stuffed into the shoes, there would be a bulge, but the rest of the food wouldn't look puffy.
ReplyDeleteI think she's a despicable person, but don't think she faked a pregnancy.
Thank u @ MD.
ReplyDeleteAuntie, don't feel sorry for me. I'm doing fine.
ReplyDeleteShe is puffy all over (I suspect possible pre or pre pre eclampsia) and waddling lol, clearly just gave birth,(not dogging her on her looks. She looked beautiful and was glowing)
ReplyDeleteHave they gotten little Archie his first nazi outfit yet? Harry was so adorable in his!
ReplyDeleteThe probably either asked George what he would name the baby and he said Archie and they liked it, or they told him the baby was going to be named Archie and he liked it.
ReplyDeleteThanks, back, auntie
ReplyDeleteI figured lol
ReplyDeleteThat freak skippy is saying “protection doesn’t bring them to hospital.” No,freak, the news article about Portland (which has a tunnel byw) said Harry, Meghan and Doria went in one car and the protection officers followed in their Car. DUH
ReplyDeleteThe trolls over there get hung up in the dumbest things.
Meredith, they did this for Kate too. Said Charlotte was a doll and she used surrogates etc. it’s a new phenom called conspiracy by internet
ReplyDeleteThere will be a DNA test because no royal physician signed off on the announcement. That's just standard operating procedure to ensure that the child is of Royal Descent. That would be the same if Kate had her child at a hospital or at home and it wasn't witnessed by the Royal Physician (who are vetted prior to the birth to ensure no shenanigans are afoot).
ReplyDeleteLady Louise had a royal birth announcement on November 10, 2003 but I'm not 100% about the easel. I know that when she was born it was really touch and go because her mum nearly died and Louise was premature. That could possibly be why but I'm not sure. She did have it announced from the palace though.
+1 Meredith
ReplyDeleteUnknown, for all you know, Harry showed HM a video of the baby exciting from MM’s uterus;you don’t know shit and you aren’t entitled to know either so sit down and shut up.
ReplyDeletetatty, a video of a baby or something doing that.
ReplyDelete🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
ReplyDeleteArchie (not archibald) is like the 8th mist popular boy name in England, so I guess they were All named after the poor unfortunate soul who was beheaded. This is why you all are called trolls. You all are so fucking stupid. It never ends with your lunacy.
ReplyDeleteGee, Scandi, you think daily fail got something right for once?
ReplyDeleteOh and hey trolls, it’s Mountbatten-Windsor because that’s the name. Use google for a change instead of guessing. Yes, there is a hyphen because it a combination of two last names
Why be so nasty Tatty?
DeleteI clearly said “I hope it’s not true” and questioned whether it might just be an untrue “rumour”?
Not everyone here is a “hater”, some of us just comment on things we’ve been through in our lives.
Do you just come here and attack every single one of the people who comment on Meghan Markle unless they leave an overwhelmingly positive fawny comment, even if they’re neutral?
Maybe take a chill pill.
And you don't know either. Even if there was a god damn video, she would still have to be DNA tested to verify it was of his blood.
ReplyDeleteDo you really think that none of William and Kate's children have been tested either? If so, that's just incredibly naive. In today's era, they would absolutely do that as a matter of procedure and security. It might not be advertised but do you really think that the RF isn't going take steps to verify that anyone in line for succession is eligible for said position? There are very clear rules regarding eligibility.
You speak of entitlement but just told me to sit down and shut up because I dared to voice logic. Nothing I have said so far rings of conspiracy or ignorance, so please, kindly stfu. You have your thoughts on the matter and I have mine.
J, I’m still trying to figure out what else you think comes out of a uterus besides a baby and lining that is shed once a month. Or maybe you don’t know the difference bwetween all those “lady parts” in/up there. 🤷🏼♀️
ReplyDeleteJFC Tatty. They SAID THEY NAMED THE KID AFTER DIANA'S ANCESTOR AND SPECIFICALLY STATED IT WAS ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL, 9th EARL OF ARGYLL.
ReplyDeleteTake your conspiracy shit and shove it! They even said that's who they named the kid after! Lord above, you're thick. Not everything that is being stated here comes with tinfoil hats.
No they didn’t, you stupid shit. You trolls made up that bullshit. It’s just Archie, which is a common boys name in England. TROLL.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.royal.uk/archie-harrison-mountbatten-windsor
ReplyDeleteOkay Tatty. Do a search on the internet and see what pops up. Because numerous news outlets and entertainment outlets are proposing that the name is a nod to Diana's (and Harry's) distant relative. I hardly doubt outlets like AOL and People of all things are fodder for us Merkle trolls. You got me.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm a troll for researching the name? I'm a troll for looking up the significance of the name and seeing the history behind it? Wow. Who knew that something called "research" made me a troll? Damn. Looks like I was I was foiled again.
Give me a fucking break. You just hate the fact that someone is daring to question the narrative. I'm waiting to see what comes of all this conspiracy bullshit just like anyone else, but seriously, fuck off with your drama. I saw that it was mentioned that he was possibly named after Diana's past relative, looked up the significance behind it, and BAM, there it was. Not rocket science. No trolls made that up but go ahead and think what you want. Obviously, your synapses are struggling tonight.
https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-honor-princess-diana-archie-name/
ReplyDeletehttps://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2019/05/08/decoding-archie-how-the-royal-babys-moniker-is-a-tribute-to-princess-diana/23723328/
OMG! Conspiracy Fodder! Who knew Kneepads was a Troll site!!
“They just liked the name Archie” says every reliable newspaper. The call it a “contemporary” choice. Hint: people magazine is not a reputable source.
ReplyDeleteThey didn’t name the kid Ardnibald; that is not his name. Comprehend? His name isn’t Archibald.
And with that, I bid you all goodnight ⭐️
No shit Sherlock. It's a diminutive of Archibald. Archie is a variation of that name. Are you really that daft?
ReplyDeleteStop grasping at straws, please. Next you're going to tell me that naming a kid Bill or Liam isn't a form of William, or that Elise or Betty isn't a variant of Elizabeth. You don't have to name someone the exact version of a relative's name for it to be a nod to it or to pay respects. Archibald is the formal version of the name and Archie is a common diminutive form, but that doesn't negate where it derived from.
Megstans are nasty scum.
ReplyDeleteJ: little nazi outfit for the baby LOL!!!
ReplyDeleteI am not a royalist or anti-royalist so I look at this a bit differently. When Harry got with Meghan he was a fully functioning adult. He chose her and obviously adores her and they both look very very happy. Megan had family,press and complete strangers rip her to shreds and I think she handled it beautifully. Whats not to love about them as a couple. And Archie is cute
ReplyDeletePersonally, I thought today's appearance was the first where I believed she physically carried a baby. I guess the years of yoga kept her exceptionally nimble up to maternity leave.
ReplyDeleteWho knows which sources to believe anymore, but on some program today, they said that once the baby went several days past due date, the plans for homebirth were precautionarily scrapped. Then they proceeded to give details of how posh Portland hospital is, and how it has a private entrance, etc.
As for the name, im not used to the diminutive on the birth certificate, but whatever. Of all of the relatives on the tree, this ancestor doesn't seem like the one to honor first, but, again, maybe there's more to the story.
However, I agree with Hunter that, if they knew Archie was a bona fide nickname of George's, and there wasnt some sort of discussion with the Cambridges, that would be a clinically f'd up move. One of those subtly psycho moves that seems benign to the clueless observer, yet infuriates the target who understands every bit of the calculation and intention behind it. Dont know that was the case, but some of her past actions put it in the realm of possibility.
Im assuming everything is legit, or, after seeing Harry and Royals so happy with the baby, it would all just be beyond awful for anything shocking to come out.
Meghan's appearance with harry and baby was the most genuine and dazed I've ever seen her. Nervous, even. Her swollen face, something about her hair, her dazed look and demeanor, I felt that was closest we have seen of the "real Meghan." I do believe they want to be stars. I do believe they want to be famous celebrities, and they want to do and say what they please. I believe that they want to be in America. For Frogmore has not been renovated because they will never live there. The problem with these 2 is their dishonesty and disingenuous behaviour. It feels like they (more specifically, she) manipulate the public. If they start telling us the truth they will gain many more fans and allies.
ReplyDeleteSo, I read that he may be titled the Earl of Dumbarton....so if the story about Archibald Campbell is true (as read above) and he was named after this Archibald, then it's pretty fitting, eh?
ReplyDeleteInteresting that MM fans are unable to express their views without being rude and using blasphemy.
ReplyDelete@ Jen.. agreed. Also, IDK what Auntie is prattling on about re "we have HIPPA privacy laws that are strictly enforced" and any info leaking out... yes WE do. We as in America, and the Health Insurance Portability and Privacy Act, signed into law by Clinton in the mid 1990's. England/UK/Britian does NOT have HIPPA. They do have the DPA (Data Protection Act). Kind of lessens the credibility of your information when you're quoting a US law to support your UK point IMO
ReplyDelete@paperwrznglwr. Too bad i am not up on Sniff English protocol. Too busy working to look that crap up and really dont care. Cheers
DeleteDid anyone else find it odd yesterday when Harry said ”his changes everyday” when asked who Archie looks like? Given the child was born only 48 hours before - supposedly.
ReplyDeleteI meant his face changes everyday :)
ReplyDeleteGoddammit. I thought this thread was gonna be all about bashing on the cunt LL and her idiotic "strategy" and somehow it morphed into the royal twits? Can't we keep those arguments sequestered to their way-too-frequent blinds?
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile.. back to the actual conversation at hand... Lori Loughlin can suck it. Her husband and daughters can also suck it. They are beyond arrogant. Outrageous sense of entitlement and privilege of the rich. IMO her daughters knew what the deal was- how could they not when they had to pose for pictures on rowing machines to be shopped onto an actual sculling boat, and they must have had some sort of communication from the actually sculling team while in school, if for no other reason than the team picture. Her kids took slots from legitimate students, an egregious abuse of the system, then mom and dad feel free to write off the $500k as a tax deduction and screw the tax payers who actually pay their fair share.
ReplyDeleteI said it before, I'll say it again..don't mess with tax fraud, it'll get you caught in a RICO investigation, you're going to do time. If they got Capone and Gotti that way, they'll get you too.
As for Archie being a nickname of George's, apparently Kate and Wills call him "Tips" because he's called PG at school.
ReplyDeleteJeez, you people get into the stupidest arguments. I call my kids all kinds of stuff, and always have. Just in case you're wondering I wouldn't be offended if you stole my kid's nickname of "Weasel."
And Earl of Dumbarton is one of Harry's subsidiary titles so Archie will probably use it. Or maybe not.
Archie is out of the line of succession as he has been given no title. This negates the need for a DNA test and the child no longer needs to be proven as Harry's as it is essentially disinherited from the monarchy.
ReplyDeleteSee? So all y'all can shut it.
Vita - yeah it's mind blowing to us with values and morals but holy shit I actually think she might be that cray in which case, WTF Harry!?!?
Archie can ONLY use the Earl of Dumbarton as a favor while Harry is alive and won't actually receive the title until Harry is dead. He will never be in line to the throne as he has no HRH appended to his name, full stop.
And no, the queen is NOT going to be giving him one later, that's ridic.
SD Auntie - my oh my look at you all fired up lol!!
Lol @Hunter. Had to take some sick leave and am bored sitting around waiting to heal. Don't mind me,,peace!
DeleteSheesh
ReplyDeleteI was under the impression the Queen had to approve the name. I find it hard to believe that if it was in fact a real nickname for George she would sign off on it.
Also, having had 2 babies and now carrying my third, you could tell she was actually pregnant when they introduced that baby. She had pregnant face before, but the amount of fluid you lose for potentially weeks after delivery is ridiculous and make you look like a puffer fish. She was completely swollen, but looked lovely.
I feel bad for them. There is no actual proof that she's a "b*tch" or "difficult". I think people just hear a rumor and run with it. Almost like people enjoy ripping strangers to shreds to make themselves feel better. Go figure.
He will have an HRH when Charles is king because he will be the grandson of the reigning monarch. Get your facts straight.
ReplyDeleteI just had to weigh in on MM after birth pictures. I birthed 4 babies, and she while looking absolutely beautiful looked like a woman who birthed a baby in the not so far past. Those of you whom are convinced that she hasn't have you had a baby? There are signs most of us have after we have done so and I see them in her.
ReplyDeleteHunter is correct up until Charles assumes the throne, then what Krab said is correct. The parents can choose, like Princess Anne did, not to let her children be titled (Anne refused to let HRM grant Zara and Peter any titles or honors) but once Charles assumes the throne, he has the right to grant the title of "Prince" to baby Archie. Queen Elizabeth can but probably will not grant baby Archie the title of Prince (it's normally not done for great-grandchildren of a reigning monarch but she could if she wanted - at least that's what my mum said when we discussed this last night).
ReplyDeleteIf they use any kind of titles for Archie, he cannot have them in the US. You have to renounce any kind of titles to retain US Citizenship and given his eligibility for dual citizenship (like I have) he cannot use any titles in the US. That could partially be why but I suspect they are waiting for Charles to assume the throne. Certain titles are only granted by the reigning king/queen and are not inherited or assumed; so it would come down to what Charles decided to deign them upon his coronation.
That said, I still suspect there is a DNA test in the works given that a Royal Physician didn't sign off. Even though they refused to give him any titles, he is still formally listed in the line of succession. He is currently #7, ahead of the Duke of York (Prince Andrew, younger brother to Charles and Anne), and then his daughters (Beatrice and Eugenie) follow. After that comes the Queen's last child, Prince Edward (Duke of Wessex), and his children after that. So who knows what is going to happen.
https://www.royal.uk/succession
Lots of rules and procedure to follow.
Krab: Charles will never be King. Next ruling Monarch will be William.
ReplyDeleteLOL Rustie.
DeleteI don’t usually care about royals, but I was invited to the 2013 Kroningsdag (coronation, not the usual Koninginnedag/Koningsdag) celebrations in Jakarta.
So that year I paid a little more attention out of respect for my hosts (although I don’t usually care) and I remember that year on the parody accounts on Twitter people were making all sorts of jokes about how “Charles will never be king”. 🖤 LMAO. 👏🏼😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😹😹😹😹😭👑
It was hysterical. Good times.
DeleteMeghan said the baby was born a couple of days ago and Harry said it was born two weeks ago in their interview.
ReplyDeleteWhat some of you are missing is that when Charles becomes King, "Archie" who is indeed named after Archibald Campbell becomes an HRH. So @Tatty research before you go off on people, Those in the line of succession are signed off on AKA witnessed, tho not always announced. Poor lad Archie is named after a traitor beheaded as it seemed romantic to the rule-breakers doing things their way. Yeah plus "Harrison, Harry's son as if that's all it would take.
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