This permanent A+ list comedian/former actor is trying to stop the release of a recording of a conversation from about a decade ago where he says things that would probably instantly end his career.
THIS Granted, it was a “different time” but no one cared that a 39 year old man was dating a 17 year old girl (I am using girl since she was under 18). In fact , it was pretty much celebrated.
Oh please, it was not celebrated. When it was reported on, it was noted some ppl thought it was weird but they were a quiet couple and ppl left them alone for the most part. A 17 year old is old enough to know who they want to date, grow up
@HiThere- I will have to respectfully disagree. When your relationship is on the cover of People Magazine, with a positive headline, it’s celebrated. When JLD gives her blessing on the relationship, when the relationship becomes late night fodder and conversations about how she doesn’t look like a high schooler (is big boobs) downplay the situation, when Jerry is seen as a stud that can land a 17 year old, it’s seen as ok. I did find it ironic that the only person that I recall seeming to have a problem with the relationship was Howard Stern.
J, The patriarchy makes it so difficult to know how to be a good parent. Are we allowed to name our children or should we wait until they choose their own names? Perhaps give them gender neutral ID numbers instead?
Transracial people are even more fascinating. Individuals like Rachel Dolezal, Shaun King and Elizabeth Warren are so brave to be who they know they are inside.
I don't have kids, and my only regret is I won't be able to support them through various gender-reassignment surgical procedures before they enter elementary school.
I'm pretty liberal, and I can certainly see the point in, for example, having scholarships for Native-American kids.
So I don't get why other liberals aren't pissed off at Warren for basically faking her way into that advantageous treatment. Without Warren, Harvard might have worked to bring a real Native American onto the faculty.
Also, while this is the topic... if I were, say, the 300th-best male tennis player out there, earning $75k a year or whatever, I'd pay serious attention to those feminine thoughts which occur now and again and go take Serena's paycheck away from her.
It's simple. Even the worst seeded male pro tennis player in the world on a bad day with a hungover can beat Serena Williams. Strength, stamina and speed are what it takes to play tennis, and the average man is twice as strong and fast as the fastest women. If you were the 300th male player in the world and decided to pull a Kaitlyn Jenner, you'd become overnight the best female player in history. Big bucks, a tale of bravery. Get it?
J, perhaps someone could start a charity. Or better yet raise taxes to help children who haven't mastered algebra to make lifelong medical decisions based on the greatest wisdom of all, their feelings.
@notthisagain, I've lived in relative prosperity and never faced a military draft. Went to college at a state school pretty cheaply, and my grad school student loans are paid off. Hell, it even used to rain in California when I first moved here.
Women of my generation don't consider it sexual assault to offer them white wine when their mind is on red.
The heresy of one age becomes the orthodoxy of the next. - Helen Keller
Things change. It happens every generation. Every generation makes changes to make it better for the next one. The resistance comes from the older generations who have gotten used to the status quo they long ago upset to establish the new baseline. I hope the younger generations continue to make progress and make the world a better place.
Transracial translates and transtruthful. It's fraud. Warren didn't just fake her way to advantageous treatment she took an opportunity away from a real person of American tribal descent. Stealing from Indians is part of her heritage, past and present. Fine with people living their truth but it needs to be truthful and it should not be used to hurt other people. The female athletes who started life male are also stealing. Maybe form your own league for people in transition and see how that goes but don't ride up on born female athletes and declare victory based on false advantage. Frauds.
Perhaps people don't mind Warren because she was creating a teachable moment. Historically white people have stolen everything from Native Americans under the flimsiest of pretenses, she was just reminding everyone that it still happens today. So brave, so brave.
I suspect in the future it will be out of fashion to carry your own fetus, that will just be for poor people and religious nuts. Probably all surrogates or done in the lab for 9 months.
@notthisagain + 1000 love how they complain about people being too sensitive and the pc agenda then they get completely triggered by people living their lives in a way that has no affect on them.
No one wants their child to be transgender because it's a very difficult road, made all the harder by the bigots of this world but the difference is loving parents accept and support their child.
My mom used to tell us we were part "Indian" (didn't say Native American back then). She said we were Mohawk. No specifics... probably a lot like what Elizabeth Warren heard from her comparably-deluded parents.
Based on that, it NEVER EVER EVER occurred to me to check a minority box on a school or job application, etc.
And I'm pretty nauseated by anyone who would do so.
@Brayson, I like the cut of your gib! If you're ever out my way maybe we could hook up. The love we make won't result in any gender-confused, trans-racial, self-identifying, multi-hyphenate "brave" monsters like you get with those #MeToo whores. Let's get a glass of rose with the ghost of Anthony Bourdain and see what happens, lol!
Elizabeth Warren was already a nationally known academic working at Harvard in the mid '90s when she first identified herself as Native American in a law school directory (then stopped doing so after a few years). It is not true that she got the faculty position "because" of her ethnic claims. Meanwhile, back to the blind item...probably Jerry Seinfeld. Or Tim Allen?
@J it's about where it's coming from, if it's coming from a place of worrying about the bullying and prejudice they'll face and the affect it will have on them, worrying about the medical treatment and the associated risk and have legitimate fears for they safety not to mention the internal struggle trans people have to deal with that can lead to issues with self harm and other mental health problems especially as teens, the attempted suicide rate among trans teens is a lot higher than other teens. In reality most of these people who say they don't want trans kids say it from the place of hating trans people.
When Kevin Hart says he doesn't want a gay son he's not worried about homophobes and any discrimination his son might face, he's a homophobe who doesn't like gay people.
He's a zionist and politically connected to Israel. What do you expect? And before you accuse me of bigotry, for the umpteenth time, I'm not only Jewish, I married obe, wore a star of David for years, and most if my favorite authors are Jewish. Anyone who supports the state of Fascistrael has no soul. Jerry prays to its feet.
One guy I went to grad school with received a full ride as a latino american. He was blond haired, blue eyed, and most resembled a surfer dude. His name, however, was latino and he took enough Spanish to get by. So what? Good for him!
Sounds like we have some bitter minnies here. What, ya'll think Warren took your slot at Harvard? Poor babies.
So you are a big proponent of Native American issues across the board? Or is this simply a convenient moment to blast someone who used the system to her advantage (again - good for her!)
On Kevin Hart, your argument is more interesting. I wish I could find somewhere to discuss that very thing - our wishes for our unborn children that will make their lives easier - like when Salma Hayek admitted she would have preferred a boy since men's lives are easer, but loves her daughter none the less for it. Do these honest expressions of wishes make Kevin a homophobe and Salma a misogynist? I don't think so.
Great, plot. By all means, tie your legs behind you like Eddie Murphy in Trading Places and take money from people who intend to help the less fortunate. Work the "system" to your heart's content.
All class.
Regarding Native American issues, as I said I can see the merit in reserving scholarships, etc., for that category of people. Not sure what "across the board" means, especially when someone so perpetually incoherent as you uses the term.
Here is what I do not understand. If you don't like a speech someone is making, or the jokes they are telling, or the premise of a show, then don't watch it. Works both ways. It's called don't pay for a ticket, turn the channel, don't buy the book. It's really that simple.
Wow! Good job on stereotyping Latino or Hispanic people plot! I guess you’ve never met any Puerto Rican’s, Colombians, Argentinians, Spanish, etc people with blond hair, red hair, green or blue eyes? How pedestrian of you! Do you think all AA’s are dark haired, skinned and eyed? You need to go to your Church Of Social Justice and confess to your high priestess about your complete failure as a virtue-signaler. Where’d you get that grad degree? Ypsilanti College of Liberal, but not really, Bullshit? In case you’re wondering I went to the same schools that crooked cop Comey went to.
Say it is Seinfeld. So what? As others noted, he's survived scandals, and that was when he was working for a major corporation. Now he's nearly as rich as God, and doesn't need anyone to keep doing what he does. I mean, sure, if Netflix wants to pay for it, great, but he could always just bring it back to youtube.
he tennis player thing was already done in the 1970s. Am I the only one who has heard of Dr. Renee Richards, formerly known as Dr Richard Richards? She did OK after transitioning, won some doubles titles, but no big championships.
I remember RR!! Times sure have changed. Also if someone identifies themselves as Native American, i always ask to see their BIA card. That shuts them up real fast. Latinos have blond or red hair. We have such diverse looking folks while WP focus on what they see on tv.
Every race of people on earth indulged in slavery and Empire building throughout human history, @Armatel, but only one group is held accountable. Is it stealing for non-Whites to benefit from all the things White people created, worked and paid for?
"Regarding Native American issues, as I said I can see the merit in reserving scholarships, etc., for that category of people."
Then by all means work yourself into a position on Harvard's selection committee and change things! The world awaits your stellar judgement in this area! Otherwise, criticizing those chosen for said scholarships is just a widdle bit sour grapes on your part, no?
Seinfeld?
ReplyDeleteDid he say wouldn't want his son to be trans?
ReplyDeleteI believe he made some comments of that nature... also said things about not touring colleges because they’re too PC etc
Deleteid say kevin hart but hes still acting
ReplyDeleteBrayson, I think the correct attitude now is to actively hope your child is born "trapped in the wrong gender."
ReplyDeleteWoke as hell.
Seinfeld survived dating an underage girl and it did absolutely nothing to hurt his career, if that didn't what would?
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DeleteGranted, it was a “different time” but no one cared that a 39 year old man was dating a 17 year old girl (I am using girl since she was under 18). In fact , it was pretty much celebrated.
Oh please, it was not celebrated. When it was reported on, it was noted some ppl thought it was weird but they were a quiet couple and ppl left them alone for the most part. A 17 year old is old enough to know who they want to date, grow up
DeletePlus he got together with his current wife who was a newlywed when they started dating.Jerry has survived a few scandals.
Delete@HiThere- I will have to respectfully disagree. When your relationship is on the cover of People Magazine, with a positive headline, it’s celebrated. When JLD gives her blessing on the relationship, when the relationship becomes late night fodder and conversations about how she doesn’t look like a high schooler (is big boobs) downplay the situation, when Jerry is seen as a stud that can land a 17 year old, it’s seen as ok. I did find it ironic that the only person that I recall seeming to have a problem with the relationship was Howard Stern.
Delete@Unknown- it's people like you what cause unrest.
ReplyDeleteJ, The patriarchy makes it so difficult to know how to be a good parent. Are we allowed to name our children or should we wait until they choose their own names? Perhaps give them gender neutral ID numbers instead?
ReplyDeleteKevin Hart saying he doesn't want a gay son
ReplyDeleteTransracial people are even more fascinating. Individuals like Rachel Dolezal, Shaun King and Elizabeth Warren are so brave to be who they know they are inside.
ReplyDeleteI don't have kids, and my only regret is I won't be able to support them through various gender-reassignment surgical procedures before they enter elementary school.
ReplyDeletelol @ all the old people complaining about the world changing. I would say deal with it, but you'll be dead sooner than us, always :)
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty liberal, and I can certainly see the point in, for example, having scholarships for Native-American kids.
ReplyDeleteSo I don't get why other liberals aren't pissed off at Warren for basically faking her way into that advantageous treatment. Without Warren, Harvard might have worked to bring a real Native American onto the faculty.
Also, while this is the topic... if I were, say, the 300th-best male tennis player out there, earning $75k a year or whatever, I'd pay serious attention to those feminine thoughts which occur now and again and go take Serena's paycheck away from her.
Wait, what? Explain the Serena comment more pls
DeleteIt's simple. Even the worst seeded male pro tennis player in the world on a bad day with a hungover can beat Serena Williams. Strength, stamina and speed are what it takes to play tennis, and the average man is twice as strong and fast as the fastest women. If you were the 300th male player in the world and decided to pull a Kaitlyn Jenner, you'd become overnight the best female player in history. Big bucks, a tale of bravery. Get it?
DeleteJ, perhaps someone could start a charity. Or better yet raise taxes to help children who haven't mastered algebra to make lifelong medical decisions based on the greatest wisdom of all, their feelings.
ReplyDeleteHim and Kevin need to go on the NonApolgy tour together
ReplyDelete@notthisagain, I've lived in relative prosperity and never faced a military draft. Went to college at a state school pretty cheaply, and my grad school student loans are paid off. Hell, it even used to rain in California when I first moved here.
ReplyDeleteWomen of my generation don't consider it sexual assault to offer them white wine when their mind is on red.
My timing is excellent.
The heresy of one age becomes the orthodoxy of the next.
ReplyDelete- Helen Keller
Things change. It happens every generation. Every generation makes changes to make it better for the next one. The resistance comes from the older generations who have gotten used to the status quo they long ago upset to establish the new baseline. I hope the younger generations continue to make progress and make the world a better place.
Transracial translates and transtruthful. It's fraud. Warren didn't just fake her way to advantageous treatment she took an opportunity away from a real person of American tribal descent.
ReplyDeleteStealing from Indians is part of her heritage, past and present.
Fine with people living their truth but it needs to be truthful and it should not be used to hurt other people. The female athletes who started life male are also stealing. Maybe form your own league for people in transition and see how that goes but don't ride up on born female athletes and declare victory based on false advantage. Frauds.
Perhaps people don't mind Warren because she was creating a teachable moment. Historically white people have stolen everything from Native Americans under the flimsiest of pretenses, she was just reminding everyone that it still happens today. So brave, so brave.
ReplyDeleteWell, a fake brave.
DeleteBy all means, Todd, let's get moving on research to gender-reassign all foetuses before birth. Progress!
ReplyDeleteI suspect in the future it will be out of fashion to carry your own fetus, that will just be for poor people and religious nuts. Probably all surrogates or done in the lab for 9 months.
ReplyDelete@Brayson87 delusional transracial folk are some of the most fascinating creatures on earth.
ReplyDelete@notthisagain + 1000 love how they complain about people being too sensitive and the pc agenda then they get completely triggered by people living their lives in a way that has no affect on them.
ReplyDeleteNo one wants their child to be transgender because it's a very difficult road, made all the harder by the bigots of this world but the difference is loving parents accept and support their child.
How interesting that Ellen is lobbying for Hart to take back the Oscars gig.
ReplyDeleteMy mom used to tell us we were part "Indian" (didn't say Native American back then). She said we were Mohawk. No specifics... probably a lot like what Elizabeth Warren heard from her comparably-deluded parents.
ReplyDeleteBased on that, it NEVER EVER EVER occurred to me to check a minority box on a school or job application, etc.
And I'm pretty nauseated by anyone who would do so.
@Brayson, I like the cut of your gib! If you're ever out my way maybe we could hook up. The love we make won't result in any gender-confused, trans-racial, self-identifying, multi-hyphenate "brave" monsters like you get with those #MeToo whores. Let's get a glass of rose with the ghost of Anthony Bourdain and see what happens, lol!
ReplyDeleteHi Leanne
ReplyDeleteSo if someone says, before a child is born, "I hope my kid isn't transgender" that's ok, right?
Because I suspect saying so would get a lot of people crucified.
Hi Rosie (fake J)!
ReplyDeleteHow's your romance with the forever-pregnant schoolteacher lady?
Who's watching the kids? Don't say "their fathers!" We all know better.
Elizabeth Warren was already a nationally known academic working at Harvard in the mid '90s when she first identified herself as Native American in a law school directory (then stopped doing so after a few years). It is not true that she got the faculty position "because" of her ethnic claims.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, back to the blind item...probably Jerry Seinfeld. Or Tim Allen?
Tim Allen has been successful despite a drug dealing conviction and prison time. Doubt it's him.
DeleteSure Rosemary.
ReplyDeleteAnd Harvard never ever pointed to her and said "look at the Native American Professor we have on faculty."
Give me a break.
@J, Yeah sorry I'm held back from that by being a cisgender straight male in a committed relationship lol
ReplyDeleteAbout a decade ago is when the Michael Richards tape exploded. I wonder what Seinfeld could’ve said around that time
ReplyDelete@J it's about where it's coming from, if it's coming from a place of worrying about the bullying and prejudice they'll face and the affect it will have on them, worrying about the medical treatment and the associated risk and have legitimate fears for they safety not to mention the internal struggle trans people have to deal with that can lead to issues with self harm and other mental health problems especially as teens, the attempted suicide rate among trans teens is a lot higher than other teens. In reality most of these people who say they don't want trans kids say it from the place of hating trans people.
ReplyDeleteWhen Kevin Hart says he doesn't want a gay son he's not worried about homophobes and any discrimination his son might face, he's a homophobe who doesn't like gay people.
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ReplyDeleteKevin Hart is still acting and he wasn't nearly as famous 10 years ago. Besides, that ordeal was recent and isn't really a secret to anyone...
ReplyDeletenotthisagain, Not a good idea being so smug about embracing satan's agenda. Transgenderism is sick and evil
ReplyDeleteLeanne, it's remarkable that you know what motivates most people to say the things they say. Must be an awesome power.
ReplyDeleteYes I’m sure they go through all that abuse and hate just for the fun of maybe deceiving some ppl. Idiot
ReplyDeleteHe's a zionist and politically connected to Israel. What do you expect?
ReplyDeleteAnd before you accuse me of bigotry, for the umpteenth time, I'm not only Jewish, I married obe, wore a star of David for years, and most if my favorite authors are Jewish.
Anyone who supports the state of Fascistrael has no soul. Jerry prays to its feet.
Simple. Some middling pro male tennis player should say he's a woman, enter the women's tournaments, and take the prize money.
ReplyDeleteNext....
ReplyDeleteIf he's permanent A+ list, then how are some comments gonna end his career? I dunno, this sounds like a logical fallacy.
ReplyDeleteI've been accused of being transhuman and I love me some transfat. Apropos of nothing, but I felt like being a dick and throwing that out there.
ReplyDeleteOne guy I went to grad school with received a full ride as a latino american. He was blond haired, blue eyed, and most resembled a surfer dude. His name, however, was latino and he took enough Spanish to get by. So what? Good for him!
ReplyDeleteSounds like we have some bitter minnies here. What, ya'll think Warren took your slot at Harvard? Poor babies.
No, plot. I mean what I wrote. Your aphasia is once again problematic.
ReplyDeleteI have a dream that in the future everyone will be able to tick a race based item on a form and get preferential treatment!
ReplyDeleteSarton, that's the world we have in the USA right now, because most forms are processed anonymously and there's an assumption of honesty and goodwill.
ReplyDeleteWhich is exactly what connivers and cheats like Elizabeth Warren take advantage of.
@J
ReplyDeleteSo you are a big proponent of Native American issues across the board? Or is this simply a convenient moment to blast someone who used the system to her advantage (again - good for her!)
On Kevin Hart, your argument is more interesting. I wish I could find somewhere to discuss that very thing - our wishes for our unborn children that will make their lives easier - like when Salma Hayek admitted she would have preferred a boy since men's lives are easer, but loves her daughter none the less for it. Do these honest expressions of wishes make Kevin a homophobe and Salma a misogynist? I don't think so.
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ReplyDeleteGreat, plot. By all means, tie your legs behind you like Eddie Murphy in Trading Places and take money from people who intend to help the less fortunate. Work the "system" to your heart's content.
ReplyDeleteAll class.
Regarding Native American issues, as I said I can see the merit in reserving scholarships, etc., for that category of people. Not sure what "across the board" means, especially when someone so perpetually incoherent as you uses the term.
Louis CK
ReplyDeleteSteve Martin or Eddie Murphy
ReplyDeleteJon Stewart
ReplyDeleteNothing is gonna stop Seinfeld's career.
ReplyDeleteBecause Seinfeld has no career anymore?
DeleteSounds like Seinfeld. Oh well... I think he'll be alright.
ReplyDeleteI don't suppose Ricky Gervais could be considered permanent A+?
Here is what I do not understand. If you don't like a speech someone is making, or the jokes they are telling, or the premise of a show, then don't watch it. Works both ways. It's called don't pay for a ticket, turn the channel, don't buy the book. It's really that simple.
ReplyDeleteSpeech Police Alert!
ReplyDelete@Ice Angel, you just described the complete opposite of every current political movement lol.
ReplyDeleteWow! Good job on stereotyping Latino or Hispanic people plot! I guess you’ve never met any Puerto Rican’s, Colombians, Argentinians, Spanish, etc people with blond hair, red hair, green or blue eyes? How pedestrian of you! Do you think all AA’s are dark haired, skinned and eyed? You need to go to your Church Of Social Justice and confess to your high priestess about your complete failure as a virtue-signaler. Where’d you get that grad degree? Ypsilanti College of Liberal, but not really, Bullshit? In case you’re wondering I went to the same schools that crooked cop Comey went to.
ReplyDeleteGosh, Kitty, one would think I wasn't married to one.
ReplyDeleteAre you insulting graduate degrees now, too?
No, I'm not the least bit curious about where you think you went to school.
Unknown is 100% correct. Dick don't lie.
ReplyDeleteSay it is Seinfeld. So what? As others noted, he's survived scandals, and that was when he was working for a major corporation. Now he's nearly as rich as God, and doesn't need anyone to keep doing what he does. I mean, sure, if Netflix wants to pay for it, great, but he could always just bring it back to youtube.
ReplyDelete@Paul Saint John
ReplyDeletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1081228282442469377
@J
ReplyDeleteLOL! Rachel McKinnon looks retarded rather than transexual!
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ReplyDeletehe tennis player thing was already done in the 1970s. Am I the only one who has heard of Dr. Renee Richards, formerly known as Dr Richard Richards? She did OK after transitioning, won some doubles titles, but no big championships.
ReplyDeleteI remember RR!! Times sure have changed. Also if someone identifies themselves as Native American, i always ask to see their BIA card. That shuts them up real fast. Latinos have blond or red hair. We have such diverse looking folks while WP focus on what they see on tv.
DeleteAnd by TV, its the news.
DeleteBobby Riggs was in his 50s.
DeleteThe "tennis player thing" hasn't been done, and I can't wait until the experiment takes place for real.
Tom Hanks?
ReplyDeleteEvery race of people on earth indulged in slavery and Empire building throughout human history, @Armatel, but only one group is held accountable. Is it stealing for non-Whites to benefit from all the things White people created, worked and paid for?
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ReplyDeleteBobby Riggs and Dr. Renee Richards are two entirely different people, but thanks for playing.
ReplyDeleteAnd Renee Richards wasn't a highly-ranked male tennis player.
ReplyDeleteAnd racist Viking Song takes a break from incest porn to shit the conversation here...
ReplyDelete@J
ReplyDelete"Regarding Native American issues, as I said I can see the merit in reserving scholarships, etc., for that category of people."
Then by all means work yourself into a position on Harvard's selection committee and change things! The world awaits your stellar judgement in this area! Otherwise, criticizing those chosen for said scholarships is just a widdle bit sour grapes on your part, no?