The estate of this permanent A++ list musician has been very busy behind the scenes recently. They are spreading a lot more money around to buy favorable PR, which is currently in the works. This will supplement the estate’s paid online bot armies, and is all timed to counteract an upcoming film about the musician. The estate will be pulling out all the stops, in an attempt to insulate their only cash cow from what could be a devastating assault upon the musician’s reputation.
Prince?
ReplyDeleteElvis?? Only one I know of is Elton John and he is def alive
ReplyDeleteThere's an Elton John movie on the way, "Rocket Man." Is there someone Elton feuded with that might appear in that movie?
ReplyDeleteSexual abuse documentary on Michael Jackson at Sundance.
ReplyDeleteYes, this.
DeleteSundance and MJ I believe.
ReplyDeleteI hate to even throw this out there with Tricia & MD but there it is my dear lovelies xo
Happy Friday RR❤️😘👍💃
DeleteIt is Prince
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/30/ava-duvernay-prince-documentary-netflix
Per that article, Prince's estate is cooperating fully with the filmmakers. I say the MJ doc.
DeletePer Rolling Stone: "Leaving Neverland focuses on two alleged victims and how they were sexually abused by Jackson, and how they came to terms with it years later”.
ReplyDeleteAnd DAMN I miss him and his music.
ReplyDeleteThe two men have already sued Jackson's estate without success, says Rolling Stone. Wade Robeson and James Safechuck.
ReplyDeleteFilm also interviews their families, wives, etc.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the sense that Prince's estate is as well-organized as MJs.
ReplyDeleteYou may be right. I thought Enty always referred to MJ as A+++ but I could be wrong. Or he changed his rating.
ReplyDeleteI can see this being MJ but I don’t see this damaging his reputation. Like R kelly there has been a lot evidence and people will still buy his stuff.
ReplyDeleteI agree, MD, that this is "known information" and not likely to surprise anyone, particularly since the two men have already sued. The danger, I suppose, is that in this environment Jackson could become toxic enough that it becomes impossible to use his music as background, in commercials, etc.
ReplyDeleteI will say, though, that I know a lot of 21st century kids who love MJ. For as long as they've been alive, those allegations have been out there, and MJ is still very popular.
Michael is a perm A++++ so ger(never heard him described as a musician here?)-songwriter and dancer obv.) Entertainer.
ReplyDeletePlayed the piano a bit I think but not sure about the description
Agree Tricia about the musician part but I just can’t see duvernay going in on Prince. She would be ostracized by the black community. They idolize him and MJ.
DeleteTrue indeed.
DeleteI miss Prince big. Loved him. One of the best(and kindest)
MD, you’re not lying. Lol go to Lipstick Alley and read anything even tangentially related to MJ or Prince. Any slightly critical comment of MJ gets a ton of stans flocking to comment. Almost as bad as Beyoncé stans! I rarely see anything bad about Prince but I have no doubt his super fans would react the same way.
DeleteAs an aside, wtf is with this stanning shit? Why are people so invested in people they don’t know? What causes this? It’s fascinating yet scary.
Singer*
ReplyDeletewha about aretha? her estate is in the news today
ReplyDeleteSame almost said her but she’s a singer/entertainer unless entire just being laaaaazy lol
DeleteThinking it's MJ. The 10th anniversary of his death and maybe the estate has something planned to commemorate it. I'm curious whether the subjects of the doc are Robson and Safechuck, who had their cases against the estate dismissed. If it is, then the estate shouldn't do $h!t to counter the doc. Both had the chance to get justice during the '05 trial, but didn't. While some in the public will sympathize, others won't because they had the opportunity to seek justice but seemingly seeking financial remedy many years after the fact.
ReplyDeletePrince's estate is notoriously unorganized. He died intestate.
ReplyDeleteI am sticking with my Prince guess, lol. Even though I miss him and his talent.
ReplyDeleteAt risk of annoying Tricia (sorry) but how many on here still actually believe that MJ wasn't a paedophile?
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty damn convinced that he was.
Gonna go with MJ. They already have a kneepads article out. https://people.com/music/michael-jackson-estate-slams-documentary-alleging-sexual-abuse-children/
ReplyDeleteAlthough I'm pretty sure it's MJ, I wonder if it could be George Harrison. Given the blind about him impregnating underage girls in Bangladesh (or in that general location), damage control would be absolutely necessary. Mind you, there's no movie coming out about him that I know of, although an anniversary involving one of the Beatles' could be celebrated this year.
ReplyDeleteWow I never heard that about George Harrison. Although I think the Beatles are the most overrated band of all time, Harrison had one solo song I loved when I was a toddler. The rest, meh. They all seemed like creepers and weirdos like all celebs. Especially Lennon and his horrendous wife.
Delete@pwal.
ReplyDeleteFifty years since John married Yoko.
That's all I got.
Only two *'s and the term "musician"? I know that it's useless to nitpick Enty's choice of words sometimes. But I don't think it's MJ because of the wording. Although this may be what the blind wants us to guess. People argued over the James Dean blind because some details supposedly didn't fit. But when everyone guesses the same thing everyone else just goes with it. It kind of makes me wonder if CDAN is a social experiment. XD
ReplyDeleteI don't think Prince has paid bots defending his rep because when he was alive he had no fucks to give. I think it's MJ and we know there are bots for him, at least according to Enty and the Enterns anyway.
ReplyDeleteOK This JUST came in to my Twitter feed:
ReplyDeletehttps://thegrapevine.theroot.com/what-you-want-baby-you-got-it-aretha-franklins-biopi-1831672278?utm_source=theroot_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
I would consider Aretha a musician.
Michael Jackson estate
ReplyDeleteMichael Jackson was not a child molester. God damn it, enough already. I'm not a paid bot. I actually have relatives who were friends with him and they had two YOUNG SONS. Nothing ever happened. My aunt considers him to be her best friend and she still cries when talking about him. The two sons are now adults and still speak lovingly of him.
ReplyDeleteI know MJ did this with other families- treated them like royalty and befriended them. And many of these families took advantage and accused him of these crimes. My family never took advantage of him. He was always good to them and they never believed any of this.
I met MJ when I was 7 because he came to a big family event. I still remember shaking his hand and taking pictures with him.
This doc is all lies once again. Enty keeps spreading BS lies about MJ. None of it is true.
Are you from Lipstick Alley? Lol
DeleteSo why did he enjoy the company of kids and acted like one? Was he mentally retarded? (I'm dead serious here) It's the only other explanation other than MJ being a raging pedo.
DeleteAlternatively, Michael Jackson could hace been mildly retarded and a pedophile at the same time.
DeleteJust because MJ managed not to molest your two cousins does not mean he didn't molest anyone.
ReplyDeleteI feel the accusations absolutely destroyed Michael's life. Which had already been so tragic.
ReplyDeleteOf course people accused him.
The world press also mocked George Michael, for meeting some man in a bathroom.
Just like they lash out at Mariah Carey, when she gains weight.
It's an evil, jealous world.
If you get too much fame, they will bring you down.
Well, blowing off random guys in public restroooms IS a legitimate object of ridicule. Particularly if you're rich and famous enough to be able to get your rocks off in other less unsavory ways.
DeleteNathan you DON'T get to have the last word. We have no reason to doubt YOU on your claim but there is WAY too much more info in the public realm that you could EVER hope to sway with your simple opinion. That's just the facts Jack we all have our opinions but the amount of physical information out there indicate otherwise. There is also information to the contrary, the fact is that all of it is "out" there and it's never going to dissipate, meaning the entire population is NEVER going to say "Michael Jackson was not an abuser". Soon, most people will be saying quite the opposite but that doesn't matter to you anyway we can see you're not going anywhere, but that's ok because you're just one dude who's hopelessly uninformed.
ReplyDeleteMichael Jackson worked very closely with aid organizations that were affiliated with tainted vaccines and child sex trafficking (Americares), and the CIAj. Michael Jackson was abused as a child by his father Joe and sold into sexual slavery for elite gain, plain and simple as was the rest of the family. Michael Jackson was programmed by Walt Disney into Peter Pan regressive mkultra/monarch shock therapy. Choose to believe it or not at your own peril I'm pretty sick and tired of explaining it to you idiots.
Oh looks like the shills starting showing up, lets give them a warm CDAN welcome.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Mike and this new docu coming out
ReplyDelete@pwal - Patti Boyd's book "Wonderful Tonight" already made George Harrison to be a neanderthal who expected women to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. AS much as that pains me.
ReplyDeleteWhy? Men can want a certain type of woman as much as a woman can want a certain type of man. If a woman wants to be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, who cares? Consenting adults and all of that. Why are only certain types of relationships “acceptable”? And it’s always only the really out there ones, anything traditional is derided and the participants treated like lepers.
Delete@nathan here you go, did he ever show your relatives his literal closet?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653380/Michael-Jackson-s-secret-underage-sex-closet-Inside-raid-uncovered-King-Pop-s-extensive-collection-photos-featuring-naked-teenage-boys.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3655438/Why-did-13-years-proof-Jacko-s-depravity-revealed-Mail-knows-pictures-police-raid-Neverland-home-disturbing-just-released-shatter-protestations-innocence.html
@nathan, were your relatives white? Rumor is that he preferred a different race for his other activities.
ReplyDeleteYes, my relatives are white.
ReplyDeleteAlso, AkhaldanSolo, I was listening until you said this: "Michael Jackson was programmed by Walt Disney into Peter Pan regressive mkultra/monarch shock therapy."
I have read the information out there and will not dispute that it is suspicious. But I truly believe my family when they tell me MJ is innocent and people made up lies to make money off of him.
MJ felt more comfortable around kids because he never grew up- there's your Peter Pan syndrome for you. He liked spending time with kids but wasn't sexually interested in them.
Makes sense, rumor was that he liked hanging out and playing with the white boys, but it was Latino boys he seemed to have a different fascination with.
ReplyDeleteThen why are all the "accusations" by white people?
ReplyDeleteIt's MJ:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jan/10/michael-jackson-estate-sexual-abuse-documentary-leaving-neverland-dan-reed-sundance
@ Nathan please don’t ever use the he didn’t abuse people I know excuse. Most sexual predators take advantage of kids who have an absent, overwhelmed or hands off parent. They usually don’t target kids in loving homes with a good support system. But don’t you worry the Jackson family will still continue to get their money.
ReplyDeleteWhite privilege probably, like I said it was just a rumor. He may have enjoyed molesting boys of all races.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how there are these sacred cow celebrities that people get riled up about their blinds, but then slowly but surely the supporters fade away as more evidence comes out and the mainstream starts to accept the truth about their crimes.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe the celebs just run out of money to pay shills.
My two cents worth at this point is that there is a 50-50 chance he was a pedophile or not. I mean, not just random odds but say in character assessment. What he did with being preoccupied with child friends and Neverland could have been a sexual predilection OR it could have been a child thrust into the spotlight with a controlling abusive father who created these fantasy worlds and stunted relationships as a defense mechanism and fantasy life. He seemed so devastated when accused that it makes me think he may have been molested himself OR he created such a preserved and pristine world in which kids were safe that he was leveled by the accusation. I think he was a very unusual person, period, full of demons and self loathing. In my gut though, for some reason I think NO but maybe that is the glass half full part of me that makes me so PLEASE NO WALL vs the flip side. I don't know.
ReplyDelete@kiki, MJ was my favorite musician for many years, I was in denial for a long time. But the evidence just keeps stacking up. It gets to the point where the mental gymnastics to keep believing his innocence is exhausting. Sometimes if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is actually a duck, not a squirrel in disguise.
ReplyDeleteThere are also people who believe the Earth is flat and that OJ was innocent and that Elvis still lives...
ReplyDeletethis doc is supposed to be brutal
ReplyDeleteI believe he was an abuser...hated himself for it...created this child fantasy world where he was a big kid to convince everyone and himself he was a good boy.
ReplyDeleteNo grown man with pure intent is that obsessed with children...especially children of one gender. I dont care what his excuse is.
ReplyDelete@Brayson I gave him the benefit of the doubt, thinking he was just stunted and asexual, until that closet of porn was made public
ReplyDeleteI work in the field of child sexual abuse. I understand what Nathan is saying, but would echo the thoughts of others:
ReplyDeletePredators *pick* who they perp on. This isn't a situation where MJ couldn't control himself around every child he came into contact with. Predators develop a very keen sense of observation-- I'm sure MJ could tell you which of his friends (i.e., victims) had parents who were not observant, parents who were not present... in other words, MJ knew who the vulnerable children were and he jumped upon that.
I have no doubt that MJ was a good friend to Nathan's family and did not perp on the boys. But you can't convince me that he didn't perp on others. There's too much evidence to suggest otherwise.
I don’t think anyone would be surprised by what Prince did, so I’m going with mj- me too relevancy
ReplyDelete@Nutty _Flavor - Elton John fired his long-time manager John Reid - I think it might have been because of a feud between him and Elton's husband David Furnish.
ReplyDeleteMorning Lorri: I think some people would be surprised at some of the things Prince did (like knocking on doors for Jehovah's Witness around Minneapolis), but probably not for the reasons that make sensational documentaries.
ReplyDelete@gauloise, That closet is what pushed it beyond reasonable doubt for me too.
ReplyDeleteI heard today HBO is behind this MJ doc being shown at Sundance.
ReplyDeleteI’m going with Miles Davis. And even Prince knocking on doors didn’t raise this eyebrow.
ReplyDeleteI'm with Brayson & gauloise, that closet of sick stuff was the gavel slam of my opinion of the MJ case.
ReplyDelete@Nutty_Flavor - I totally agree with you, your comment made me laugh. Yeah I think Prince's "estate" is his sister, a cousin and some friends pounding out texts on their cellphones, not the seething & highly capable machine that is the Jackson behemoth.
As for MJ's activities, I totally cosign LooksLikeCRicci's point - it wasn't that he couldn't control himself, it was how he chose to do when he chose to do it.
I highly suspect that even Macauley Culkin who widely declared MJ never laid a hand on him, we KNOW Mac has seen some shit - if you asked him, I'm pretty sure he would (these days) acknowledge that whatever MJ did on his own time could well have been inappropriate - Wasn't Mac the top guess for the person who was told not to go explore the music dungeon in the back garden?
Miles Davis was on AZT when he died, which is interesting.Birth of the Cool is the doc.
ReplyDeleteNo grown man co-sleeps with kids they're not related to.
ReplyDeleteToo early for Aretha Franklin. Much, much more will be revealed...ex hubbie, sons, etc.
ReplyDeleteThis will become pubic over the next few months/year. This is excluding the one son whose real father is
Please, not "pubic"! Come to think if it, I'm not interested in Aretha's private life going public either.
DeleteThe (proven) false accusations against Michael Jackson destroyed his life yet people will ignorantly believe the lies and smear campaigns against him without really delving into the facts...shame on them and on some of you. This smearing of his name and character, manipulations and outright lies about him, even in death, is never going to end.
ReplyDeleteYou need proof of the truth about Michael Jackson? read here:
https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/
I was going with Elvis but Miles is an intriguing guess.
ReplyDeleteNo adult man ever has children sleep with him in his bed, unless he is their father. That's one huge red flag. I used to counsel abused children, there is so much evidence of child sexual exploitation on MJs behalf.
ReplyDeleteMj all the way. Closet full of porn, huge settlements, creepy. Also perpetuatong a cycle that was inflictwd on him as a child.
ReplyDeleteI thought this was Chris Cornell for sure.
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