It figures that this foreign born A/A- list mostly movie actor who is an Academy Award winner/nominee and cheats on his wife every chance he gets would come out as a big supporter of the child molesting director.
Whether you believe her or not, she's on the hook for having kids with/raising kids around this guy. People with children should take some responsibility for keeping those kids away from monsters, you know?
Re Mia - I agree, J, it doesn't look good that she allowed the adoption of the 2 kids (Moses and Dylan) to go forward after she supposedly knew that WA was an abuser or at least did troubling things.
Mia did NOT allow the adoption of Dylan and Moses after she knew WA was abusing Dylan. WA was accused of molesting Dylan and she was adopted from birth by he and Mia.
I think the point is that Woody proved himself to be a bad parent to his kids in his court testimony, in custody cases brought by himself against Mia, btw. Mia might have been a bad parent but she cared enough to know all her children's teachers, doctors, dentists, schedules, hire all their tutors, provided them with food, schooling, medical necessities...and give them a life in a nice NYC apartment and a farm in Connecticut. Woody did not provide any of that, according to his own words, and didn't seem to think any of it mattered while testifying.
The custody case was decided on this basis alone and had nothing to do with the reported abuse.
People doubt Mia and Dylan. It's a slippery case, even thought every judge thought there was enough evidence to charge Woody. That still has no bearing on custody or the situation with Soon Yi (in which I am firmly in the camp that Woody stalked her and groomed her for years.)
I'm not saying that WA is a peado because he had sex with his step daughter but HE HAD SEX WITH HIS STEP DAUGHTER. Do the people defending him genuinely believe he waited until she was eighteen? I don't know much about Mia but I'll play Devil's Advocate here and go out on a limb and say that maybe she is fabricating. What would you do if you found your husband screwing your child? Adult or not, adopted or not, he's a sick little fuck. Yet here we are. Not only are these 'celebs' defending these fuckers but us regular folk are buying into it, apparently.
Whether Allen was a terrible or great parent has little bearing on Farrow's responsibility for observing and carefully considering the people her children would be raised around. If he's such a monster (and he may well be, I have no idea), then how could she spend years and years with him without becoming concerned over that?
I mean, if she were stupid or irresponsible maybe... but we know that like all the accusers she's a saint.
Hell NO Woody didn't wait till Soon Yi was 18! If you read her latest interview she is extremely vague about when their "affair" started, can't seem to recall exactly. Then there are the reports from Daisy and Lark that Woody would ask for details of their teenaged dating experiences( together with Soon Yi), to "help" them navigate the world of boys. Yeah, I've heard that one before and I'm not alone.
@J
I'm sure Mia is well aware of her culpability in all this, why she ignored things because her main source of income and excellent work was Woody, and she had three children with him, and for her their relationship worked on many levels. A whole lot of women make the same compromises for much, much less. I bet it was devastating and very difficult to overcome, if she can at all.
But fortunately in this universe, people cannot be charged for the actions of others, so your condemnation of Mia has no legal bearing.
@Plot, J and Orangesoda, if you are tired of arguing about this, I suggest you guys take a break head on to youtube and watch a montage of Muarys, you are not the father! I bet it will crack you guys up!
Seems to me that a good mother would keep her kids away from lots of people whose behavior was off, rather than using the threshold of illegality.
So spending a long time with this horrible horrible guy (again, I think he may well be) and then exposing children to him seems pretty damned irresponsible.
Of course, I'm an old-fashioned type who thinks people should put some energy into protecting kids, instead of just tipping off gossip bloggers after they've been abused.
@J, I get what you're saying, you'd think as soon as most mothers found those pics of Soon Yi they would have been reaching for a double-barreled or a baseball bat to deal with the bastard. But then again it's not a normal mother's experience to find out that the man she loves f*cked one of her daughters and might be trying to f*ck the other. Who can say how they'd react? In the end she did the right thing, some don't even do that.
Oh yeah, for everybody (not J) trying to use the strategy of shifting the focus to Mia and ignoring the accounts of the Dylan, Ronan, caretakers, doctors, the New York Supreme Court Justice, here you go:
33-page decision from New York Supreme Court Justice Elliott Wilk in Woody Allen’s 1992 custody suit
Falling in love is great. But it's not an excuse for getting stupid, especially not for exposing vulnerable people to harm. If some person wants to stay in a relationship with black eyes and broken ribs because of "love," that's great (although I don't appreciate being told I need to do personally put energy into worrying about the outcome.)
However, toleration of kids getting black eyes and broken ribs because of "love" also happens, and as far as I'm concerned any parent who exposes kids to that treatment is a horrible person, even if "love" is involved. Farrow was with him for years. If she didn't gauge his personality and tendencies in that time, she wasn't attentive, or isn't bright enough to undertake the responsibilities of child-rearing.
Say what you want about him, his roles in The Counselor and No Country For Old Men just nailed me to the wall. Speaking of No Country, Tommy Lee Jones was never better. After you watch him in that film, watch The Eyes of Laura Mars from 40 years ago. He was gorgeous! Some people age better than others. What an actor! And, did you know, he was Al Gore's roommate in College? Now you do.
I don't think I've ever seen a more bleak movie than The Counselor. It's Cormac, whose a wonderful writer (most the time) but gosh that movie upset me in ways his writing never did.
JAvier bardem
ReplyDeleteAnd woody allen obviously
DeleteOr maybe, juuuuuuuust maybe, not everyone believes Mia. I don't.
ReplyDeleteSo cheating on your spouse has equivalence to molesting children?
ReplyDeleteHe really is unattractive, goes to show women have no standards.
ReplyDeleteNo @Jl. He has strong Castilian feautures and is rugged/masculine.
ReplyDeletemore like Canary Island features ( it belongs yo Spain but it is geographically in Africa) There is little castilian about him.
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ReplyDeleteYes, in Enty world.
I like uniquely handsome men, and Bardem is that.
I don't either, Krab.
ReplyDeleteWhether you believe her or not, she's on the hook for having kids with/raising kids around this guy. People with children should take some responsibility for keeping those kids away from monsters, you know?
ReplyDeleteRe Mia - I agree, J, it doesn't look good that she allowed the adoption of the 2 kids (Moses and Dylan) to go forward after she supposedly knew that WA was an abuser or at least did troubling things.
ReplyDeleteHold on a second.
ReplyDeleteMia did NOT allow the adoption of Dylan and Moses after she knew WA was abusing Dylan. WA was accused of molesting Dylan and she was adopted from birth by he and Mia.
I think the point is that Woody proved himself to be a bad parent to his kids in his court testimony, in custody cases brought by himself against Mia, btw. Mia might have been a bad parent but she cared enough to know all her children's teachers, doctors, dentists, schedules, hire all their tutors, provided them with food, schooling, medical necessities...and give them a life in a nice NYC apartment and a farm in Connecticut. Woody did not provide any of that, according to his own words, and didn't seem to think any of it mattered while testifying.
The custody case was decided on this basis alone and had nothing to do with the reported abuse.
People doubt Mia and Dylan. It's a slippery case, even thought every judge thought there was enough evidence to charge Woody. That still has no bearing on custody or the situation with Soon Yi (in which I am firmly in the camp that Woody stalked her and groomed her for years.)
I'm not saying that WA is a peado because he had sex with his step daughter but HE HAD SEX WITH HIS STEP DAUGHTER. Do the people defending him genuinely believe he waited until she was eighteen? I don't know much about Mia but I'll play Devil's Advocate here and go out on a limb and say that maybe she is fabricating. What would you do if you found your husband screwing your child? Adult or not, adopted or not, he's a sick little fuck.
ReplyDeleteYet here we are. Not only are these 'celebs' defending these fuckers but us regular folk are buying into it, apparently.
Whether Allen was a terrible or great parent has little bearing on Farrow's responsibility for observing and carefully considering the people her children would be raised around. If he's such a monster (and he may well be, I have no idea), then how could she spend years and years with him without becoming concerned over that?
ReplyDeleteI mean, if she were stupid or irresponsible maybe... but we know that like all the accusers she's a saint.
@orange
ReplyDeleteHell NO Woody didn't wait till Soon Yi was 18! If you read her latest interview she is extremely vague about when their "affair" started, can't seem to recall exactly. Then there are the reports from Daisy and Lark that Woody would ask for details of their teenaged dating experiences( together with Soon Yi), to "help" them navigate the world of boys. Yeah, I've heard that one before and I'm not alone.
@J
I'm sure Mia is well aware of her culpability in all this, why she ignored things because her main source of income and excellent work was Woody, and she had three children with him, and for her their relationship worked on many levels. A whole lot of women make the same compromises for much, much less. I bet it was devastating and very difficult to overcome, if she can at all.
But fortunately in this universe, people cannot be charged for the actions of others, so your condemnation of Mia has no legal bearing.
plot, I suspect you have no idea whatsoever what Mia Farrow is or is not aware of. Stick to people you know personally like Anthony Bourdain.
ReplyDeleteAs for legal bearing, I'll continue having opinions of individuals and categories of people irrespective of prosecutability.
@Plot, J and Orangesoda, if you are tired of arguing about this, I suggest you guys take a break head on to youtube and watch a montage of Muarys, you are not the father! I bet it will crack you guys up!
ReplyDeleteIf he was so easily guilty, why is he not in prison? The tribunals then said it was not true.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me that a good mother would keep her kids away from lots of people whose behavior was off, rather than using the threshold of illegality.
ReplyDeleteSo spending a long time with this horrible horrible guy (again, I think he may well be) and then exposing children to him seems pretty damned irresponsible.
Of course, I'm an old-fashioned type who thinks people should put some energy into protecting kids, instead of just tipping off gossip bloggers after they've been abused.
@J, I get what you're saying, you'd think as soon as most mothers found those pics of Soon Yi they would have been reaching for a double-barreled or a baseball bat to deal with the bastard. But then again it's not a normal mother's experience to find out that the man she loves f*cked one of her daughters and might be trying to f*ck the other. Who can say how they'd react? In the end she did the right thing, some don't even do that.
ReplyDelete@J
ReplyDeleteAs I will continue to have opinions, and chuckle, over your inanity.
Oh yeah, for everybody (not J) trying to use the strategy of shifting the focus to Mia and ignoring the accounts of the Dylan, Ronan, caretakers, doctors, the New York Supreme Court Justice, here you go:
ReplyDelete33-page decision from New York Supreme Court Justice Elliott Wilk in Woody Allen’s 1992 custody suit
Summary:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/danny-shea/heres-the-1993-woody-alle_b_4746866.html
Full version:
https://www.scribd.com/document/205403621/Allen-v-Farrow-Custody-Ruling-June-7-1993
Hi Brayson!
ReplyDeleteFalling in love is great. But it's not an excuse for getting stupid, especially not for exposing vulnerable people to harm. If some person wants to stay in a relationship with black eyes and broken ribs because of "love," that's great (although I don't appreciate being told I need to do personally put energy into worrying about the outcome.)
However, toleration of kids getting black eyes and broken ribs because of "love" also happens, and as far as I'm concerned any parent who exposes kids to that treatment is a horrible person, even if "love" is involved. Farrow was with him for years. If she didn't gauge his personality and tendencies in that time, she wasn't attentive, or isn't bright enough to undertake the responsibilities of child-rearing.
@Brayson
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for sharing that. More Allen defenders need to read it through.
Say what you want about him, his roles in The Counselor and No Country For Old Men just nailed me to the wall. Speaking of No Country, Tommy Lee Jones was never better. After you watch him in that film, watch The Eyes of Laura Mars from 40 years ago. He was gorgeous! Some people age better than others. What an actor! And, did you know, he was Al Gore's roommate in College? Now you do.
ReplyDeleteHow unfortunate that @J hates women and supports pedophilia.
ReplyDelete@A That's not what he said and you know it. Then again, maybe you don't...
ReplyDeleteMen can be obtuse when it comes to the behavior of other men. They compartmentalize stuff; women connect everything.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've ever seen a more bleak movie than The Counselor. It's Cormac, whose a wonderful writer (most the time) but gosh that movie upset me in ways his writing never did.
ReplyDelete"who is" not whose.
ReplyDeletejesus christ, fuck me.
The body of Christ compels you!
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