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This slimy cult is beyond worried that at some point the now ex of this B+ list celebrity offspring of a permanent A++ lister is going to spill about his child porn collection and where he got it from. The cult has hundreds of thousands of pictures and videos.
The former Mr. Lisa Marie, I suppose.
ReplyDeleteLisa marie Presley maybe
ReplyDeleteScio, Lisa Marie Presley, Elvis? Is the perma A++ the one with the child porn, or the B+ offspring?
ReplyDeleteMichael Lockwood
ReplyDeleteThey would only be worried if the Permanent A Lister was a Scientologist, so I don't think it's Presley.
ReplyDeleteIf he got it from other Scientologists....why on earth would someone spill about his own incriminating child porn collection though?
ReplyDeleteCould it be the nxivm cult
ReplyDeleteLisa Marie's ex-big hat husband has been investigated for child porn, IIRC. I wonder if it's her first husband?
ReplyDeleteThough the blind reads that they're worried that the ex of the B+ list celeb offspring of perm A++ has the porn--doesn't it?? With he as the pronoun. So that would be a male offspring of an A++ lister, right?
Paris spilling about MJ.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Micheal Lockwood. In divorce filing he requested spousal support, she opposed claiming that she found a lot of child porn.
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ReplyDeleteWhat's sad is that until I started reading CDAN my knee-jerk response would've been $cio! Now, I"m not even sure of that anymore.
ReplyDeleteRereading it, I see now. The Perma A++ lister is just an identifier to help us figure out the offspring. The offspring's ex is the one with the child porn, and he got it from Scio.
ReplyDeleteThe Paris Jackson guess is interesting but what cult would be associated with her or MJ? Did he raise his kids Jehovah's Witness? There is a lot of sexual abuse coming out about the JWs lately.
ReplyDeleteThat hat guy... what a stroker.
ReplyDeleteI have read articles saying Lisa Marie made the child porn allegations up. Even if she didn't, people will think she did because she was married to Michael Jackson.
ReplyDeleteLisa Maries first husband, Danny Keough, is a big shot in Scio. Perhaps him? Lockwood is not in the cult and has no money.
ReplyDelete@Plot I read that MJ didn’t raise the kids as JW (there are pics of them in front of a Christmas tree). Though, he probably still held many of the beliefs, being raised one & given his closeness to his Mom.
ReplyDeleteSo Scientology is providing their members with child porn?! Are they producing it too? Doesn’t Scio have tons of members in the FBI? I thought I read why infiltrated it.
ReplyDelete“They” infiltrated,it posted before I could correct
Delete@April: They infiltrated it back in the 70s when the Guardian’s Office was still around. Mary Sue Hubbard (LRon’s wife) ended up going to jail for it when she took the fall for her husband.
DeleteScientology is well known to separate children from their families in the Sea Org at a very young age (conceptions in Sea Org used to result in abortion pressure and now result in expulsion from Sea Org, which can be ruinously expensive).
Former $cio kids have come forward to talk about their abuse at “the Ranch” but I hadn’t heard anything about there being pictures or film.
Given what we’ve seen and heard here lately though it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the source of these big caches. :(
Scientology has dwindling membership but a LOT of money and a documented history of being willing to have their lawyers spend quite a bit on things like extensive decades-long PI network operations.
The leader even instructed PIs tailing his elderly father (who had escaped from Scientology’s Sea Org) to let him die when he appeared to be having a heart attack.
Sources:
“Ruthless: Scientology, My son David Miscavage, and Me” Ron Miscavage
“Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and my Harrowing Escape” Jenna Miscavage-Hill
“The Unbreakable Miss Lovely” Tony Ortega
“Going Clear” (Doc) Alex Gibney
“Aftermath” A&E
Mike Rinder’s blog (mikerindersblog.org)
“The Underground Bunker” Tony Ortega (tonyortega.org)
Thank you Hanniam! If the kids are separated, then it wouldn’t surprise me. Don’t just cults participate in pedophilia at some point? It wouldn’t surprise me they use it as another way to extort more money and keep their followers in line.
Delete@April in Scio it seems to be a two pronged problem. On one hand, the more useful you are to leadership, the more you can get away with.
DeleteOn the other hand, Scio has embedded in it the belief that there is really no such thing as a child or a family, because everyone is really an ancient being inhabiting a series of bodies and part of the nominal goal is to become actively and consciously that ancient being and to recognize that the trappings of human life are just distractions.
Under that belief, “children” are just the same as adults, only inhabiting a fresher human shell. You can read about it in various places online. The best known is probably Hubbard’s lecture about how if a six year old girl tries to avoid or finds unpleasant a grown man’s attempt to kiss her, there’s something wrong with HER.
It’s pretty easy to see how overlooking pedos in their midst would flow from that particular belief.
If this is true it's really concerning, they have a pre-school-12 Scientology boarding school in addition to the Ranch and Sea Org.
Delete@Hoen It is concerning, isn’t it? More people who were raised in Scio are coming forward with their stories of abuse as children, and they’re disturbingly similar to each other.
DeleteAnother of Scio’s angles is that it prevents you from telling anyone outside of your auditing (confession) sessions, and even if you tell your auditor, Scio teaches that at bad thing that happens to you happened to you because you “brought it in.”
So if you report being raped or abused, you get interrogated to find out what YOU “did wrong.”
It takes some people whole lifetimes to start speaking up after that kind of mind-f*ckery.
Lisa's ex would spill IF he gets caught or wants to take down Scientology. As in sure he spills the beans on himself possessing it but he could easily plea-bargain his way out of a charge (or even get immunity) from handing over way bigger fish. Scientology has you confess to all your vices and weaknesses in order to clear and cure you of them but in reality they seem to use this info to keep you in the fold and blackmail you, quite genius of these evil f*ckers! I can see someone fessing up to being interested in child porn, even if they themselves never pursued it, and Scientology encouraging them to get some to then do some re-programmign with and BAM they've got them downloading kiddie porn and OWN you!
ReplyDelete@kiki 71, Scientology members who turn on them often end up dead. In that type off scenario,very likely.
ReplyDeleteSounds like the ex is being investigated and will cooperate with police. No other reason to release the info.
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ReplyDeleteI'm seeing the same problem with the "his porn". It could reference the B-lister, who would then be the son of an A++.
Or it could be that the ex knows of the A++-father-of-b-lister's collection.
So reading it the first way, are there any b-list sons of an A++ lister - with either of them in a cult? If not, then it's the A++ lister with the porn.
Having said that, I think it's common knowledge that Scientology likes to keep records, even affadavits, of every dark secret a member has. It would not surprise me to learn that they use entrapment to pad their files.
Everything Hanniam stated is accurate.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the backup, @hunter. :)
DeleteJaden Smith/Will Smith
ReplyDeleteAn unrelated cult, but I happened to find an interesting documentary The Source Family about Father Yod and his Hollywood cult from the 70's with an Earth, Wind and Fire connection (nothing juicy, but still a connection to The Sources journey into music). I just started watching because I felt I haven't heard enough about cults lately....
ReplyDeleteI can't remember how I landed on it. I think I was looking at the controversial and still unsolved murder of The Black Dahlia (Elizabeth Short) and started looking into Steve Hodel, who is positive his dad was the killer. I have no idea how I ended up on The Source Family - which is why I need a black pill filter to limit my time in rabbit holes.
I remember somewhere down the hole I came across Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and how "The Acid King" (David Sniderman aka David Jove) set them up as a snitch for MI5 and FBI in an plot to keep The Rolling Stones from making it to America. It also is where the Marianne Faithfull was engaged in kinky sex involving some kind of candy bar being inserted into her (all denied and "allegeded").
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ReplyDeleteI agree with one of the smith children or conor cruise
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ReplyDeleteMoonies?
I though of them because I read yesterday that they own one of the resorts used by the Olympics. Found it odd. I didn't know they were still a thing! Evidently, magnitudes more power than Scienos.
There is one son of a former POTUS, though he is B list only in political circles (2 other sons are A++ list and A list). Lots of business ventures and money changing hands between him and the Moonies.
In his divorce, he admitted to cheating with several "unknown women" in Thailand and Hong Kong. Just those 2 places.
@Sher good guess with the Moonies! Isn't Thailand a place for a lot of underage sex trafficking?
ReplyDeleteThe way the blind reads, it's a male offspring of a permanent A++ lister. Former POTUS would be that.
Sons of A++ listers of Scientology don't really fit. There's none with ex-wives, ie: Jaden Smith or Connor Cruise, and both are still relatively young.
Danny Keough looks good for this to me: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/17/lisa-marie-presleys-daughters-child-services-husband-investigated/
ReplyDeleteWhat about The Family International for the cult (formerly known as Children of God)? They have a very shady history with kids but do any celebs support them these days? The Phoenix kids were raised in this cult.
ReplyDeleteI'm reading this as......... Scientology is beyond worried that at some point Danny Keough, ex husband of Lisa Marie Presley, who is the offspring of permanent A++ lister Elvis Presley, is going to spill about his child porn collection and where he got it from. The cult has hundreds of thousands of pictures and videos. The collection is Keough's, he got it from Scientology. So, their worried he's gonna tell where he got it.
ReplyDeleteThis seems straight-forward to me. Only Elvis is big enough to be A++, and Lisa Marie accused her ex Michael Lockwood, not Danny Keough, of having child porn on his computer a year ago.
ReplyDeleteConsidering Keough isn't desperate for money and not a gold digger...do the math.
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ReplyDeleteyep, you got it
slimy cult is $cio, ex is michael lockwood, celebrity offspring lisa-marie presley, a++ lister is elvis