This legendary actress, lady, and still-beautiful woman (foreign born A list mostly movie actress who is an Academy Award winner/nominee) was backstage with me amid the hustle and bustle. Lots of people. We were discussing the bygone old days of what used to go on in the Lanai Rooms at the pool deck there at the Beverly Hilton back in the day. As I'm listening to her, my mouth agape, she stops dead in mid-speech to me and gets her legendary "not happy" look on her face as she beams past me over my shoulder. "Dear God. In. Heaven. Apparently there IS no shame in Hollywood." I follow her stare over my shoulder at the crowd of suck-ups standing around this actor (permanent A list actor who is an old a-hole). Among those fawning over him are this actress (A list mostly movie actress who is an Academy Award winner/nominee and never seems to be anywhere with her husband any longer) who I see bend down and kiss the forehead of the old man as she rubs his shoulder.
The legendary actress I'm talking to says: "Never ceases to amaze me...but I guess they are happy to honor a rapist and murderer. F**king imbeciles." And she is shooting daggers with her eyes at the whole crowd of them there. She then leans in to me and says: "Take note my dear at the old bastard's hand, hmm?" I look and see the old man's gnarled right hand is casually off his arm rest, and is touching the thigh of this actress (foreign born A- list actress who is an Academy Award winner/nominee and lies about her age) who is just laughing and talking as if nothing in the world is amiss. I look back at my companion who says: "I wonder if he pays her too, or just put it in the will? Oh well. Let's get drunk."
The legendary actress I'm talking to says: "Never ceases to amaze me...but I guess they are happy to honor a rapist and murderer. F**king imbeciles." And she is shooting daggers with her eyes at the whole crowd of them there. She then leans in to me and says: "Take note my dear at the old bastard's hand, hmm?" I look and see the old man's gnarled right hand is casually off his arm rest, and is touching the thigh of this actress (foreign born A- list actress who is an Academy Award winner/nominee and lies about her age) who is just laughing and talking as if nothing in the world is amiss. I look back at my companion who says: "I wonder if he pays her too, or just put it in the will? Oh well. Let's get drunk."
Kurt Douglas for scumbag/AnnE hatahaway and -Helen Mirren
ReplyDelete*Kirk.. sorry. Can’t help myself. My guess was same as yours.. you are so accurate, so often..kudos to you, Tricia!!
DeleteHathaway wasn’t there, though
Delete🙏🏻Randaleese :)
Deletebut it definitely must me CZJ(i didn’t notice age reference), and that’s her thang!
His daughter in law CZ Jones for one he is touching her leg and lies about her age.
ReplyDeleteMy Queen Helen Mirren talking about Kirk Douglas. And lucky for you hmmmm you unlike a certain lurky around her addressed her with proper respect and reverence
ReplyDeleteI like the Kirk Douglas guess, and I like the Helen Mirren guess. I think the one in the will might be Catherine Zeta-Jones.
ReplyDeleteKirk Douglas for sure. Tricia's other guesses sound spot on, too. Who is the one that lies about their age? Are you saying Helen does or that she's the legend...wait for it...ary actress?
ReplyDeleteKirk Douglas, Catherine Zeta Jones, Helen Mirren
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ReplyDeleteKirk Douglas sounds like a truly awful human being. I hope his past gets dragged into the light someday.
ReplyDeleteVery new poster here, but Himmmmm, you are a godsend. I am glad to know there are still some good people that haven't been turned or chewed up by the machine.
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ReplyDeleteHow many "lifetime achievement" awards has Kirk Douglas had over the years? When you google it, there are so many from the past 20 years it's amazing. It says a lot that they would do it again last night.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking Rita Moreno for the legendary actress, lady and still beautiful woman. defer to others here on the scumbag and fawning actress
ReplyDeleteKirk Douglas, everyone on CDAN yesterday was saying that he's rapist, so must be him.
ReplyDeleteRita Moreno was born in Puerto Rico, so I don't think that qualifies as foreign-born.
ReplyDeleteRita is a great guess! I thought Shirley MacLaine.
ReplyDeleteMirren/Douglas/N. Portman/CZ Jones
ReplyDeletePermanent A list actor: Kirk Douglas
ReplyDeleteA list actress never seen with her husband: Natalie Portman
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ReplyDeleteCZJ lies about her age by a good 10 years.
ReplyDeleteThis has Shirley written all over it. Mirren doesn't talk like that. It's Shirley, Douglas and CZ Jones.
ReplyDeleteShirley is not foreign born.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think Helen Mirren. She wasn’t part of Hollywood back in the day. The Shirley MacLaine guess sounds spot on. That’s exactly what she would say, down to the let’s get drunk. And she was there.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like Shirley MacLaine, and she was my first thought, but since she's not foreign born... I guess I would go with Helen Mirren too?
ReplyDeleteGot to be Helen Mirren as she always starts exclaiming sentences with "Oh God" or "God" so yep, it's her alright.
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ReplyDeleteOk, I see it’s foreign born, so maybe not Shirley. But Helen Mirren was simply NOT part of the scene back there and would know nothing about the parties in the Lanai Room. And back then, even though she was well-known in England, she was merely a blip in Hollywood. It has to be someone else.
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ReplyDeleteAnd again, for the terminally lazy: Catherine Zeta Jones’s birth registration:
ReplyDeletehttps://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl?p=ANC-05%2F1969B4-J-0711.jpg&scanselected=&v=MTUxNTQzOTIzMzo1ZTFhZDBkYTg4YzkxYmVjMjMyYjI0NGE3ZmUwYzUyNjg2ZjEzYzE1&e=b&y=1969&q=December&l=%3F&actiontype=JPG&formatselected=ORIG
Don’t believe me? https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl (Search births, Catherine, Jones, mother’s maiden name is Fair and see what you get)
And 10 years?! 5 used to be stretching it a bit, but now we’re expected to believe that she was in Annie at 21 and didn’t start looking like a teenager, or finish school, until she was in her mid-20s. Fuck me!
This girl on the far left is 19/20, in c1980
https://goo.gl/images/rY2FR2
From a couple of years earlier, when she was the most 17 year-old looking teenager ever, standing next to someone who is about 7 foot tall
https://goo.gl/images/g6c67N
I am surprised Helen had the time to break away from her yachting schedule to come
ReplyDeleteJoan Collins
ReplyDeleteAnne wasn't there. The actress never with her husband is Chastain. She will suck up to anyone to get ahead.
ReplyDeleteI’m not versed enough to know ... but who is the murderer and who did he murder?
ReplyDeleteSorry, I didn’t mean to snap at anyone here, with the possible exception of Himmmm, I just get irritated with people refusing to do the most basic research, even more so when it’s a free resource, unlike most genealogical services (I spend hundreds on subscriptions to the likes of Ancestry/Find My Past/ Scottish records, free is manna from heaven!). The 1960s folios were microfilmed sometime in the late 80s and Jones had no way enough influence to change all editions in all archives. But hey, are any UK-based archivists or genealogists willing to look at the physical tomes in their local library or county archives? I will gladly stand corrected.
ReplyDelete@Saintpat: He was implicated in the disappearance and presumed murder of actress Jean Spangler.
ReplyDeleteSIP you are correct about CZJ birthdate, UK birth records are publicly available. UK comedian Rob Bryson talks about he was older than her in school he was at Dumbarton house in 1965). As for not seeing Michael Douglas with her,both their Facebook accounts have photos together often. Agreed, it was an odd choice to have Kirk at the event.
ReplyDeleteMy post is agreeing with AIP, not SIP
ReplyDeleteSophia Loren was there. Maybe her.
ReplyDeletewait, no, no she was not.
ReplyDeleteKirk Douglas is a disgusting human being & so is anyone who fawned over him last night. Ugh. So gross. However, I was really pictured Natalie Portman for the actress, although it is well known that CZJ lies about her age. I guess I'm just looking for a valid reason for my annoyance with NP lol
ReplyDeleteRita Moreno is the only older actress from Kirk's era in attendance at the Globes. They both worked in the same studio system circles. Puerto Rico is technically an American territory ... but Puerto Ricans are still treated as "Foreign born" (i.e. can't vote in U.S. presidential elections, etc.)
ReplyDelete@Lurky McLurkster at your 11:35am comment. LOL...I'm sure you didn't intend for that comment to be a pun!?
ReplyDeleteIs CZJ A-list?
ReplyDeleteCZJ ALWAYS fawns over him. Pathetic.
ReplyDelete@Haydn, that’s quite alright! Rob Brydon, despite his friendship with Steve Coogan, is meant to be very nice.
ReplyDeleteOn topic: I rather like the Joan Collins guess, but was Angela Lansbury, Maggie Smith or in a pinch (and highly unlikely but comes to mind as CZJ plays her in “Fued”) Olivia de Havilland around last night? Lansbury and Smith especially looks great for their age, although Maggie would probably say it to his face...loudly!
Looky Lurky it is time you begin to have proper respect for a Queen.
ReplyDeleteI can picture Rita Moreno “shooting daggers with her eyes.” I can also picture her “legendary not happy look.” And she is definitely a legendary lady. I think this is her.
ReplyDeleteshirley mcclain? czj.
ReplyDeleteI can also picture Natalie Portman, who is so proud of her Jewish heritage, giving a kiss on the forehead to old Issur Danielovitch.
ReplyDeleteNatalie Portman is a zionist. Probably works for Mossad too.
ReplyDeleteKirk
ReplyDeleteRita Moreno ( co starred with Natalie Wood in West Side Story)
CZJ
Isabelle Huppert is the first to come to mind
ReplyDeleteSeriously though - do the higher-ups/producers shade the lady movement by having Kirk Douglass there? Ridiculous, ironic, or covert “fuck you”?
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ReplyDeleteMaggie Smith!!
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ReplyDeleteI think you nailed it. Going off previous blinds Himmmm is tight with someone who knows KD raped Natalie Wood-Rita Moreno was there and makes a ton of sense for the narrator.
I say Rita Moreno. She was there in all her glory last night and she's 86 - old enough to have known Douglas at his peak of degeneracy. Helen Mirren wasn't around when he was cock of the walk. Rita was. I bet that woman has Seen Things.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I stumbled across this brilliant little article by the wonderful Douglas Murray about exactly what was wrong with the Globes shitfest last night. I would pay good money to watch that crowd's faces as it was read to them, especially the last paragraph:
http://amp.nationalreview.com/corner/455250/golden-globes-oprah-hollywood-self-reflection-failure?utm_source=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_medium=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&__twitter_impression=true
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I agree with some of what Jim Geraghty says here about last night’s Golden Globes smug-fest. But there is one circle of that hell which it’s worth acknowledging, the better to understand the cynicism, suspicion, and dislike with which so many people now view events like the Golden Globes and Oscars.
It centers on the problem of Hollywood’s ever-growing preachiness. Not content with trying to entertain the world, over recent years Hollywood has increasingly presented itself as seeking to improve the world. If you take Hollywood at its own estimation, then it ought now to do what other institutions and individuals do when they are found to have been preaching one thing and doing another: slink away and keep quiet for a bit.
What was so obnoxious about last night was not just the whole industry trying to turn itself into a victim, or idiocies like the $300 jumper saying “Poverty is sexist,” but Hollywood’s decision to respond to the last few months by doubling-down and promising to preach even harder. It is as though a church rocked by a scandal responded by saying, “We’ve got the message, and we’re coming back with an even more hardcore version of what we preached at you before.”
For example, if I were Oprah Winfrey and had been chumming up to Harvey Weinstein only last year, I might have spent this year in a more reflective mood. Instead we had the “A new day is on the horizon” stump-speech, which suggested there had in fact been no reflection at all, just a raid on the cliché-vault. It reminded me of any number of terrible speeches, where people who are flailing around to reassert their moral standing crowbar in a quote from, say, Anne Frank, knowing that people are unlikely to talk over them — or boo — if they’re quoting Anne Frank.
Not that she was ever at any risk of being booed inside the room, but that’s what Oprah did last night, using Rosa Parks. And, like a lot of people watching, I didn’t want to hear about people everyone agrees are moral heroes. I wanted to hear some explanation for why this roomful of the wealthiest, most beautiful and privileged people on the planet — people who constantly lecture everybody else on “standing up” — couldn’t even stand up to the person who was sitting next to them this time last year. Introducing new elements like the sour misandry of Natalie Portman (who scalded the “best director” category for being full of men) doesn’t quite make up for that failure."
Wow. This was a GREAT read rinky, thank you. Very well said.
DeleteOh, back to the blind... I told my family if any one of them is still around when Im old enough to look like that haggard old man, shoot me dead.
Absolutely agree with the Helen Mirren/CZJ/Douglas
ReplyDeleteNothin' like taking your disgusting father-in-law out and having to present him with a prestigious award! Honestly she looked like she was barely acting through giving a fuck about him on stage, and it wouldn't surprise me how she's treated behind closed doors. The whole family is fucked up.
Helen is definitely a class act and a lady, but piss her off and she'll let you know.
That old bastard just won't die because he knows he is going straight to hell.
ReplyDeleteI thought of Reese W for the “fawning actress”, was her husband there last night?
ReplyDeleteI’m being lazy by not looking for the reveal(/BI?) but didn’t @Himmm tell a wonderful story about
Shirley McC taking Himmmm under her wing & becoming his Fairy Godmother?
Shirley McM/CZJ/Reese
Kirk Douglas is a fossil who can barely talk. No money in the world can mask that 102 year old body. Bleh
ReplyDeleteMy comment on Jean Spanger dropped off.
ReplyDeleteOh yes i bet Rita knows all kinds of things about Kirk. The lady in the will who lies about her age? CZJ. I caught an old British movie where CZJ had a bit part. She looked a lot different and looked older than her supposed age then
ReplyDeleteCZJ doesn't lie about her age. The disconnect with her is that she dresses older, acts older, and likes much older guys. But she is the age she says she is.
ReplyDeleteI think that Enty refers to CZJ as older than her stated age because it's become her identifier for so many years on this site.
@Rinky
I don't read the National Review on principle but, yes, I find Oprah insufferable in general. She is not THE civil rights icon of the century, sorry, no matter how much she imagines it or tries to construct it, she is not the one.
If Harv and Kev hadn't suddenly been outed as the predators they are, all those morons last night would still be kissing their asses and playing along. It wasn't like anyone we saw last night were among the first accusers who put their names, reputations and professional careers on the line to finally speak the truth. Oh they all wore black! How very chic.
Wow!! I had to google to find Kirk Douglas connection to the Jean Elizabeth Spangler case!! Was wondering why she would say "murderer"...
ReplyDeleteLove the Mirren & CZJ guesses
Aemish
ReplyDeleteYep, there's plenty wrong there. Some wonder if the way the purse was found wasn't a setup; dramatically ripped handles and all. Who left it may have overlooked that scrap of paper within addressed to "Kirk".
Lots of places to lose a body in LA... in the desert. Hmmm...maybe it's time to stroll the halls of Doe network and take a gander at all the Jane Does who would match Jean's age and build.
I'm glad too that someone still remembers Jean. Whoever the lady is who called Kirk out on his crap, may you live long enough in good health to see that old trout dead and truth revealed!
ReplyDeleteIn a very old blind item, Hmmmm told a story where Kirk beat and raped a teenaged Natalie Wood, as she was trying to make the jump from child actress to adult roles. He was meant to be advising her on her career.
ReplyDeleteThe attack messed her up for the rest of her relatively short life.
@Natasha..
ReplyDeleteWhoever the lady is who called Kirk out on his crap, may you live long enough in good health to see that old trout dead and truth revealed!
Amen, sista!!
Rob Brydon is "meant to be very nice"--the affected British use of meant is incorrectly used here
ReplyDeleteBrits know that they are not really friends, just colleagues as Coogan himself has said, as an aside
I placed Dame Helen Miren as the 'lady' Oscar nom/winner actress at once. The old man seated had to be Kirk as he was rolled in on the wheelchair and the foreign-born had to be his CZJ. I got thrown off thinking it's Witherspoon but the foreign-born DIL wheeled him in. And everything took place backstage so it's them for sure.
ReplyDelete@Hannah: what is your point? I know it’s a dig at me, but I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
ReplyDeleteWould it soothe your furrowed brow at all to know I don’t write in British-English, but in mild form of Hiberno-English? In this context “meant” is a near synonym for “supposed”, and is used as intended because the information isn’t from gossip blogs, or just watching him on the telly.