January 23, 2018
This foreign born A-/B+ list mostly movie actress is an Oscar nominee/winner. It is not just the studio that is keeping her away from a certain group of reporters, she also keeps her distance and always has.
Lupita Nyong'o (speaking to African-American reporters ahead of Black Panther)
This foreign born A-/B+ list mostly movie actress is an Oscar nominee/winner. It is not just the studio that is keeping her away from a certain group of reporters, she also keeps her distance and always has.
Lupita Nyong'o (speaking to African-American reporters ahead of Black Panther)
Effin black panther is some bs. Like no black superheroes so you make one and name it black panther of all things.
ReplyDeleteBut wasn't there an American political party founded by African-Americans in the autumn of 1966 of the same name? I checked the character's and it says its first appearance was in July 1966. IDK.
Delete*character's history and it says its first appearance was in July the same year.
DeleteBlack Panther the character came before the political activists. Learn your history
DeleteThanks, Olaf. Christ, people.
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Deletewhat is your problem? that movie looks,awesome. your loss loser ricehand
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DeleteHow stupid are you @Barbara Ricehand? Black Panther, the superhero, dates back to the 60s! Goodness, go buy a brain!
DeleteI'd much rather new, fresh characters be created and promoted than a well established, legendary character be reinvented for a specific audience.
ReplyDelete@Do Tell: I don't know. Reinventing legendary characters has worked for every other Marvel movie, why mess with the formula?
ReplyDeleteI had an idea that most American companies haven't explored (to my knowledge) but I imagine people wouldn't be open-minded enough for it. Everything has to be 'scientific' with these people. Can't even promote "Doctor Strange" without insulting the character's belief with their offensive stunts (and I say that as someone who's not easily offended, and as an Asian person living in Asia, I would've been more offended by an Asian Ancient One serving some white dude tea—but I digress).
DeleteI'm confused by the reveal here.
ReplyDeleteIs Lupita avoiding African-American reporters? Why?
@Fustian, several African-American reporters have complained on Twitter that Lupita walked past them to speak with non-Black reporters instead.
ReplyDeleteMaybe there's something she isn't telling us? Maybe they hurt her somehow in the past. I wouldn't judge her for it. "Walking past" is just the symptom... Maybe the "why" justifies it.
DeleteGoogle "Black Female Journalist Talks about Being Unfairly Treated by Lupita N'yongo and Marvel"
ReplyDeleteBlack Panther is a long established marvel property, not sure what the comments are about inventing a black super hero.
ReplyDelete@Florin, it's subjective, obviously. But I think each demographic deserves to have a character established in their own right.
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering if Lupita simply gravitated to journalists she was somewhat familiar with and had previously met.
ReplyDeleteBlack Panther is an established character. But even if it had been invented, so what? 10,000 superhero moves and we get one with a black cast. I'm sure the world will fall off it's axis fromteh unfairness of it all. Yeesh.
ReplyDeleteWhy is she ignoring them? What have they done to her?
ReplyDeleteExactly, Nonya. "What have they done to her?" is exactly what people should be asking instead of being outraged without trying to understand. We know how nasty journalists can get (and unless they're covering human rights, there's no reason to get that nasty in the first place).
DeleteBlacks from Africa act differently than blacks from America. I know several women from Nigeria all with excellent educations (moved to London). They look down on American blacks as whiny crybabies.
DeleteOne of my college professors from back in the day was from Nigeria. She escaped it with her daughter. My professor was a victim of FGM and wanted to save her daughter from it. She came here with nothing. She worked hard and ended up with a PhD. She didn’t take to kindly to some of the things the African American students would lament about in thr anthropology class. She was pretty hard on them. I think because her suffering, the things she went through, were on a whole other level she saw them as jaded and whiny. Everyone’s suffering is different.
Delete@Do Tell: If the last convention I went to is any indicator, the number of Black Panther cosplays I saw tells me the black nerd community in Washington, DC has well and truly embraced the movie.
ReplyDeletelol black nerd community.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I had heard of BP years ago, so I know it isn't a new character. It's good that BP is getting a new life.
Black Panther has been around since the 1960s and was a pioneering black superhero (heck, he even fought the KKK). Times have changed so, yeah, I understand why someone may feel "black" in the name is a bit retrograde. There's also superheroes named Black Lightning, Black Vulcan, Black Racer, Black Talon, etc. in the 70s. Anyway, I think it was a good choice because of the publishing history of the character in the comic world.
ReplyDeleteSettle Down Olaf.. and btw it was by months, The character was 1st published in July of 1966 and the party, established in October of 66.
ReplyDeleteI would guess that she has had conflicts before. She is the child of Kenyans, born in Mexico. She doesn't have the U.S. "African American" experience. U.S. Blacks may have expectations of her that are not realistic. She surely doesn't want to alienate any fans, especially while promoting a film that Blacks of all types would support. I'm just guessing that she is concerned that she will say the wrong thing and mess things up.
ReplyDeleteLove her
ReplyDeleteI don't blame her for not wanting to be linked to the Black Panther group. Maybe she wants a straight interview, about the movie, with her race not being the most important thing.
ReplyDeleteExactly and you know her race would be the whole outline of the interview. Maybe she just wants to talk about the film. Simple as.
DeleteAs many have pointed out here, Black Panther is not a new character in the Marvel Universe. Even if it was something new, don't we want Hollywood to have new & original ideas, rather than adapting books & endless remakes?
ReplyDelete@ sd auntie. Uhm thanks for the loser comment, I didn’t say anything about the movie that I haven’t watched..it’s about the name. I’ve been reading complaints for years about how there is no black superheroes. Haha even Deacon on King of Queens complained about it. The name of the movie is suspect, only bc of all the race issues and it’s ok that we don’t agree about it. The name seems aggressive to me, that’s all. My comment was not mean, but yours was. Try to have a better day. ðŸ¤
ReplyDeleteThe Black Panthers were set up on Oakland CA back in the day to protect black folk from the unchecked police violence they were experiencing. They were only political by default, and sought to regain some power the citizenry didn’t have. They were destroyed by J Edgar Hoover and the entire toxic racist cop network, and by their own inability to navigate through all of that opposition. There was also the Pink Panthers in San Francisco in the 80s set up to also protect gay citezens from the unchecked police violence in that community. When people have an enemy in the police force, just for being who they are, they will resort to these measures. Coverage of them in the press is usually framed without their point of view and distorted to their detriment. Which I’m guessing is why no one on this site gets it. Btw, I’m not hoping for a Pink Panther or a gay comic hero film. But the idea is very cool.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she just doesn't want to talk politics and/or say something that is taken the wrong way which seems to happen a lot lately....I'd be fearful too.
ReplyDeleteYeah... because King of Queens is where I get all my FACTS from!
ReplyDeleteIt's not difficult to trace the history of Black Panther through the Marvel universe. I mean you could always just READ A BOOK rather than relying on a sitcom to inform your! Honestly - could you make yourself look any stupider or racist?
And gee.. all the other Marvel movies are named after the hero who stars in them!! There's not conspiracy!
And if you find the words "Black Panther" aggressive - you need to harden up SNOWFLAKE!
right@ ben wilson.
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ReplyDeleteWhen Lupita came out with her story about Harvey Weinstein, it didn't get a lot of press coverage with metoo... guessing that, if anything, this blind has something to do with that.
ReplyDeleteAfrican American folks expect Africans to really embrace them a priori. well, it's more a desire, really. They shouldn't expect some "natural" connection, and shouldn't hold it against her (or anyone from an African nation) if they don't. OTOH, Nyongo is doing publicity for a movie and Black journalists are really pushing Black Panther hard, she should be able to play into it even if she isn't really feeling it.
ReplyDelete@cat +1 exactly. The so called liberals of today are obsessed with race and sexuality. It's sick. Whatever happened to the content of one's character, morons?
ReplyDeleteEnough already with this incessant race baiting. Reverse racism at its' finest. Let people be people.
Many of you are making comments about something you have no clue of. That there is a lot of animus between African Americans and Africans is well known in both communities.Africans have the audacity to look down on African Americans while overlooking the sorry state of Africa itself. They have no clue of our history in this country and how far we have come since their ancestors sold us here. Most of the Africans you are interacting with are usually the rich ones who have the money to escape. They look down on poor Africans in their own countries, like they were modern day slaves. That Lupita did this/ does this is pretty pathetic but unfortunately not uncommon.
ReplyDeleteBlack Americans can be extremely ANNOYING. I know some will say I am generalizing they act like they are the ONLY black people on the planet. They are extremely AMERICAN meaning they live in a bubble. Black people from other countries can find USA blacks as pathetic. USA blacks act like they are the ONLY people on earth who ever experienced discrimination. I do NOT blame Lupita one bit. Next these black Americans show their true prejudices when a foreign black actor gets a big movie role over an African American. Remember Samuel Jackson and Get Out controversy. The sad thing is foreign blacks afraid to speak out about the attitude of black Americans.
ReplyDeleteBlack Americans are just as bigoted as anybody. They see themselves as the ONLY minorities in America who matter. They are extremely prejudiced and racist against other minorities especially foreign blacks. The USA blacks expect foreign blacks to follow a black American victim mentality. They love blaming white people for all their problems. American blacks need to look themselves in the mirror. The foreign black celebrities sadly are too scared to rock the boat and criticize black Americans.
ReplyDeleteBlack people are the worst! Amiright??
ReplyDeleteA lot of Africans don't like African Americans, same attitude from many African Carribeans. The perception is African Americans are whiners and lazy and entitled. I've been told this personally by many I've met.
ReplyDeleteSo are all these generalizations coming from black people or just white people? I'm African American and all of my interactions with people from Africa have been positive and mutually enlightening. When people actually have conversations with each other they learn each other's point of view instead of insisting there is only one truth.
ReplyDeleteThese generalizations about African Americans here are sad. I agree with @threshold in some regard. I met a few terrible Africans in college that thought they were better than African Americans and Africans as well and boasted on beating the "house help" and treating people like shit back in their country. Pretentious as hell talked negative about everyone and spoke of how rich they were in Africa. However I've also met Africans who were very humble, down to earth, open minded and kind despite the negative stories that have been passed around about African Americans and being told to steer clear.
ReplyDeleteWhat's sad is that the people in these comments speak on African Americans like you've met us all when in REALITY there is a bad bunch, annoying bunch, pathetic bunch, etc in every race in every region.
Side note large amount of African Americans who do not agree with blaming all are woe's on whites.