Blind Item #8
This permanent A list mostly movie actor who is an Oscar nominee/winner has had multiple opportunities to work with female directors and to advocate for them to get jobs. There he sits though wearing those pearl pins at award shows pretending to be a champion of women. Please. He is a champion at cheating on his wife with co-stars though. He is really good at that. Just that awww shucks kind of attitude and then he makes his move. Generally makes his move on the actresses with one or two lines. He probably thinks it is consensual but if they say no, they certainly do have a habit of getting replaced or ending up on the cutting room floor. So, with that kind of power he holds, do they really have a choice if they want to be in the movie? If he thinks it is consensual, why doesn't he pick a co-star of equal status? Have you ever wondered why there could have been the same co-star in a few movies he has made, but they were all one and done? They see what happens. They give him looks.
^Yup Tricia ftw
ReplyDeleteHappy Sunday/Grammy night to ya Maude and fellow CDaN’ers.... I will try to watch them but I always a challenge.(wait-that’s what were calling music these days 😰)?
Delete+1 Tricia re "music" these days. Ugh.
DeleteDenzel Washington because he never worked with a female director
ReplyDelete@Tricia13, popular music is at an all-time low these days. A lot of it sounds to me like it's now composed by algorithms which are designed to lodge melodies and hooks in the brains of as many people as possible, which is to say people who know nothing of real music and have primitive tastes.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was age, but ive pretty much stopped listening to most music for the above reason, bcuz it gets stuck in my head for days...and the messaging is just terrible.
DeleteDammit. Another reason I can't watch movies anymore. At this point,I can only watch Alaska shows and Oak Island. Stay away from those Ente. For me, please.
ReplyDeleteThe "aww, shucks" type is the sleeper assassin of the dating world.
ReplyDeleteSooo true!!
DeleteThe awards shows are all about fashion these days, all of them. The product has become that bad and/or that niche-marketed. And now fashion has gotten dull. Too many designers, not enough design. It's all about who has their tits all the way out and who is demurely covering their pubes. And they're all spackled and botoxed to the point where you can barely tell them apart, and most of them are highly scripted for their personal/corporate brand. It's just so boring that I welcome one of them actually behaving like a human and fucking up.
ReplyDeleteDenzel, and no one will ever say a thing about it.
ReplyDeleteMusic? You mean like from REAL singers/writers/instrument players, etc.? Shit, those are looong gone. Give me the 60's - 70's hard rock n roll bands any day. Those who didn't rely on computer generated mic's, etc. to do it for them. I can actually listen to the old rappers, but they're all dead/close to dead.
IMO, record companies should be extinct. With social media, youtube, iphones, everything beginning with "i" these singers, etc., can do their own stuff, can they not? Cut out the middleman and get on with their business.
Ok, carry on.
Goddam Oak Island - those people have been digging that hole for how long now? There was a show before this one involving a bunch of guys digging around there. All our modern tech and we can't figure out what's going on down there (if anything)? I bet they get to the bottom and find a stone tablet, written in Hebrew, that says "psych!"
ReplyDeleteWatch the show and you'll understand why. They are very close.
DeleteWill Smith and Denzel are reasons not to go to the movies. Never liked either. Always same character. For some reason I'll only accept that from Samuel L.
ReplyDeleteI honestly had no idea about Denzel... Ugh.
ReplyDeleteI didn't have any clue about Denzel either. He's always seemed so squeaky clean to me... EXCEPT for, I did always wonder how he played his role in Training Day like he was the real deal. Watching him in that movie made me think he had really found an exceptional way to get into that character. He won the most coveted award that year for that role.
ReplyDeleteI suppose if he's such a tool as has been said here though, it shouldn't surprise me how he was able to pull off that kind of acting for that role. My eyes have been opened.
People were ragging on Denzel last year, too, so this isn't new and the evidence in this blind doesn't necessarily add up to sexual harassment. It could just as easily be opportunistic bit players whining for attention after-the-fact now that it's open season on successful men.
ReplyDeleteDenzel, too?
ReplyDeleteIs everyone depraved in Hollyweird, or is it that they have been put on such a pedestal for so long that people are shocked?
DAMN, Denzel too!
ReplyDeleteDenzel’s face though last awards show !!! Maybe that’s why he looked like he was about to stand up and say ,”King Kong ain’t got nothing on me” lol
ReplyDeletedenzel and will smith's wacky threesome marriage, so sad
ReplyDeleteShameless finale>>>>>>>>>>>>waste of time Grammy Awards.
ReplyDeleteIf I had it, I'd probably choose the Royal Rumble over them too, even if Vince McMahon treats women like shit.
ReplyDeleteuh, how was he able to play the role in 'training day?'
ReplyDeletebecause he's a great actor. stories about denzel being an a-hole are not new here.
Awwww shucks makes me think of Tom Hanks.
ReplyDeleteAnd the non-repeating costars from the Dan Brown book films
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DeleteI'm with T.W. and Jen on this one. Denzilhad his blind last week
What Denzel movies would you have expected to have the same co-star but didn't? He doesn't do sequels.
ReplyDelete@Kikibunny, et al: Yes, in addition to the software-generated "musical" mind-viruses, there's all the awful messaging. And when you try to get away from the nasty core of popular music, you often end up with institutionalized sentimentality, as in what they now call "praise" music, and most Broadway and blockbuster movie music.
ReplyDeleteWell. There is still good music being made. You have to seek it out. Very little of the quality music these days makes it to radio and when it does, it is slipping into the aaa format. The music industry has really changed in terms of how they make money so the only music that makes it to high profile is going to be crap. Some people in the industry are still good people trying to put out good material.
ReplyDeleteFollowing up on SteveD comments - I just went through Denzel filmography and really besides Fences with Viola Davis, Denzel doesn't do couples movies hasnt in a long while. Most of the women are wives sitting at home while Denzel does his thing. NO female actress on Denzel's level would take that role until Fences.
ReplyDeletePeople get cut out of movies for all reason and if an actress says she was cut out because she refused to sleep with Denzel, she may be right or her role may have been so small as to be inconsequential and not worth keeping. There are A list actors that have whole characters and story lines cut out of films.
That being said - If someone says will you sleep with me and the person says no and then you fire them because they said no then you are creeping into Weinstein territory and should be called out. But Weinstein territory is a disgusting pus-filled place, Denzel is not even Weinstein adjacent at best.
Tom Hanks. Awww shucks. He had different female leads in all of his Da Vinci Code movies. Even though one movie was specifically retooled to be a direct sequel to Da Vinci Code.
ReplyDeleteI thought of Tom Hanks and the Da Vinci Code movies, but I think each one of the books has a different woman in it as well. @Jeannie, which one of the sequels was retooled?
ReplyDeleteAngels & Demons the book was before Da Vinci Code but they made it a sequel for the films.
DeleteThe blind does not say he hasn’t worked with female directors-it’s that he hasn’t advocated for them. Nora Ephron & Penny Marshall were pretty established when Tom was in their movies but as a huge star, he has not been directed by women.
DeleteExcept Tom Hanks got his first Oscar nomination for a movie directed by a woman, and his pre-"Philadelphia" comeback was launched by a movie directed by the same woman. Not him.
ReplyDeleteI thought Tom Hanks, too.
ReplyDeleteThe whole ambiguous part about the girls banging Denzel or whoever it is not being consensual sounds pretty flimsy. So you're suggesting that if these women decide to cheat with an Oscar winning actor at the top of his field, it's actually sexual assault because they might get some editing they don't like? Get real, this is an insult to people who have been faced with actual sexual assault and rape.
ReplyDeleteSex should not be part of the workplace.
Deletei was gonna say Ben Affleck but he isn't married anymore, but Denzel makes sense.
ReplyDeleteTHE PROFESSIONALS do not really give a shit.
ReplyDelete@jw11: Agreed. It's also very much worthwhile to search for good music made in the past. I go through discographies systematically, and I find things.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that there was a period in time, perhaps roughly 1964-1977, when there was an alignment between quality and popularity, with many exceptions of course, but a tendency nonetheless. That's long gone.
Denzel doesn't strike me as "awww shucks." I'm on the Tom Hanks train. He produces, and would have cutting room floor power. Besides, wasn't he rumored to be bumping uglies with Gennifer Goodwin during Big Love? Out of the actresses playing the three wives, she had the least range, yet she had a pretty big share of storylines.
ReplyDeleteTom Hanks has had female co-stars who appeared in multiple movies of his. For example Meg Ryan right off the top of my head.
ReplyDeleteJust to be different....because I looked at the Cosmo article from 2016 on this and because of hints of hypocrisy: Matt Damon.
ReplyDeleteGo ahead, Julia, go champion him again and make a great big speech on his behalf at the next awards show.
ReplyDelete@Becky... said:
ReplyDeleteMusic? You mean like from REAL singers/writers/instrument players, etc.? Shit, those are looong gone. Give me the 60's - 70's hard rock n roll bands any day.
Behold the music of Greta Van Fleet: "Safari Song"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odgEz8S6LZI
Doesn’t strike me as Denzel.
ReplyDeleteDaaamnit.. I don't think there's a movie left (with ppl I used to love) that I can watch anymore since becoming addicted to Enty!!!! Denzel too??????? Whhhhhyyyyyy!!! Smfh!
ReplyDeleteI’m with Adrian, Matt Damon. Denzel is not an aw shucks. My first thought was Tom Hanks but he would be an A+++. Then I thought Harrison Ford, still could be if you don’t count the Star Wars franchise w Carrie Fisher. The Indy Jones movies all had different women.
ReplyDeleteHey Enty...if you want to post under a false identity, which you obviously are....please start posting some truth about molesters and not the victims...grow a pair.
ReplyDelete@Few Views LOL! That is beyond true! My heart and holes have been assassinated by many a "aww, schucks" type. I think it's because they just seem like they wouldn't dare be capable of douchery.
ReplyDeleteTHE PROFESSIONALS demand and command that all commentary on this inane post cease immediately!
ReplyDeleteThat is all.
THE PROFESSIONALS
Shania, are you a three input woman?
ReplyDeleteDo you enjoy penetrating pleasure in all three orifices?
Tom Hanks
ReplyDelete+1$ for Matt Damon lol. There is something shaaaaady about him. BTW didn't he help to kill some abuse rumors about Weinstein, which turned out to be true?
ReplyDeleteRegarding the music. Ive have found a shit ton of new music via spotify. I would recommend that to all who want to find new stuff, or even get back to the old stuff.
ReplyDeleteThis sounds like Tom to me personally
No Grammys open post? Flipped to it long enough to see Bruno Mars act like he deserves to win over Kendrick and childish gambino. But they’re bought not won right?
ReplyDeleteCunningly I was thinking Matt or Leo. I have heard and read LOTS of effed up things about Leo, except he's not married. What about Clooney?
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ReplyDeleteI have never liked Denzel or Will Smith since this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.datalounge.com/amp/thread/11374225-is-denzel-washington-a-big-homophobe-
ReplyDeleteThere's a fairly long list of actors who have never worked with female directors. That surprised me. I wonder what the last sentence means?
ReplyDelete'They gave him looks.'
Almost reads like a word has been omitted.
'They gave him sly looks.'
So I'm guessing Stallone on a whim. (The start of that list I googled goes Connery, Damon, Stallone, Stiller, Cruise, Maguire.) I'm not that familiar with his career that I can say whether he has had reappearing female co-stars. Maybe Rocky I guess. Never much liked them so don't know them well.
"Awww shucks" makes me think Mcconaughey, but looking at who wore a pin, this could only really be Tom Hanks or Richard Jenkins. Can't find a picture of Denzel with a pin anywhere.
ReplyDeleteTom Hanks was in A League of Their Own, directed by Penny Marshall. Denzel Washington was in Mississippi Masala, directed by Mira Nair. So it's not either of them.
ReplyDeleteHow do these old wrinkled guys still get it up I am intrigued?
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't actually say he's never worked with a female director, does it? I read it as saying he's passed up opportunities to do so, not that he never has.
ReplyDelete@Justin, yes, that's a problem. If you're a famously sexy actor and you make a pass at a two-line actress on set and she responds with a smile, how do you know whether she's really into you or doing it because she's afraid for her career? After all, women throw themselves at you everywhere you go, so it's hardly unsurprising if she simply wants to sleep with you -- millions of women do. In the 1950s we could call it immoral -- fornicator! -- but in 2018, we have to allow consenting adults to do whatever they want.
Now, if he gets the ones fired who don't respond with a smile, that's a different story. Then he knows what he's doing. And that's why most corporations have rules against screwing around at the office at all: it's too hard to tell whether a subordinate is truly into it or not. Hollywood doesn't have those rules, and society outside the corporate environment doesn't anymore either.
This is also why the real abusers may end up getting away with it. Fans may throw up their hands and say, "I can't tell which ones were forcing sex and which ones were just taking advantange of what their fame and attractiveness dropped in their laps, so I don't care anymore." That may be why so many gray-area stories like this are coming out now, as an intentional effort to muddy the waters and make it all sound like a big misunderstanding.
OK, I HAVE to chime in regarding Oak Island....HOW have they not found anything??!!! Besides bone & some old china?? it is getting to be infuriating. Could the Knights Templar or whoever hid the treasure REALLY have hidden it THAT well??! UGHHHHH.
ReplyDeleteDenzel doesn't have that aww shucks attitude to me. Tom has worked with plenty of women repeatedly and behind the scenes. Meg Ryan and the Greek wedding movies just off the top of my head.
ReplyDeletematt Damon is a GREAT guess
The blind does NOT say he never worked with the same co-star twice. It says the actor has had opportunities to do so but has not. I don't know who this is but if the choices are Denzel & Tom Hanks, I choose Tom. Denzel does not have much clout compared to other Academy Award winners/nominees.
ReplyDeleteSomeone did point out there were different females in the daVinci code books. Since when has Hollywood stuck to the book?
@Mad Hominem - when I first heard them I thought it was Led Zeppelin, lol!
ReplyDeleteSomeone describes another as "aww shucks" and I immediately think Tom Hanks.
@sandybrook - I think this was the best season of Shameless yet.
This may not be about Denzel but some previous blinds that have not yet been revealed I'm sure are
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ReplyDeleteDenzel.
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