Friday, January 26, 2018

Blind Item #2

This former A list dual threat actor who was only dual threat and only A list when he played a certain role is setting up his alibi. Look for something tragic to happen to his significant other in the very near future. Hey, he got away with the same type thing before. No one even thought to think of him as a suspect.


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  1. Yes. Police called to Shatners house for burglars. Good guess Jon W

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  2. Captain Kirk? Seriously? You mean his alcoholic wife didn't drown?

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  3. Shatner! Wow, his ex wife's death was ruled as accidental drowning.

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    1. Did they run tests to check if she was drugged? Or did they just take the ex-husband's word for it?

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  4. This is a crazy ass blind. Jeez Louise. I’ll be keeping an eye for the story.

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  5. There was something "not right" about Shatner. Did you ever go to his twitter account. He's obsessed with the guy that plays on Outlander and goes after fans who say he's with his co-star. At one point he had the guys picture as his twitter banner (sorry I don't watch the show, don't know his name). I just find him extremely creepy!

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  6. Conspiracy theorists (aka "smart people") still think he offed his wife...

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  7. Anonymous7:16 AM

    But is Shatner dual threat just because he does jokey comedy music?

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  8. @Normal, no, Enty means dual threat as in Shatner playing Kirk in the Star Trek show and in movies.

    Dual threat SHOULD mean talent/success in more than just acting.

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    1. Thanks for clarifying, I was confused as to what that "Enty-speak" translated to as well

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  9. I'm not buying Shatner for this blind. And how is Shatner dual threat? His singing is awful.

    Plus he's done a few other roles he's well known for. TJ Hooker, Denny Crane come to mind.

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    1. TJ Hooker and Denny Crane were pretty well known and you can’t argue the shows’ popularity when they were on.

      He’s also had memorable roles in a lot of other successful movies. I’m thinking of Miss Congeniality and Loaded Weapon off the top of my head. Then there’s the iconic commercials and terrible but famous music and his best selling novels. Shouldn’t that make him a quintuple threat in enty-speak?


      I only know him for his career obvs unless it’s something George Takei has had to say about him over the years. So for all I know he could be the subject of the blind, as GT doesn’t generally go into much detail about him apart from his stand-offishness with the rest of the ST:TOS cast. But man, at least enty’s “Unique” use of the phrase could be used consistently or something. :)


      To be different, do Charlie Sheen or Jon Cryer have any dead exes? Both mostly movies aside from one highly popular TV show I think.

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  10. There HAS to be others who can fit this blind ...

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  11. Debate.org asks" "Did William Shatner Kill His Wife?" Two-thirds of respondents say "YES."

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/did-william-shatner-kill-his-wife

    As recently as a year ago, you could listen to Shatner's 911 call, and find it easily via Google or other search tools. I just spent a half hour trying to track it down, to no avail.

    Here's a transcript at least, though you really need to hear it to understand how fake it sounds. Even so, the exchange at the end between Shatner and the 911 dispatcher is telling:

    > Dispatcher: "Don't hang up the phone. [Shatner hangs up.] Hello?"

    As this LATimes article notes, "Shatner's friends said they were shocked by Nerine's death, especially because she was a strong swimmer."

    If anybody can track down the recording of that 911 call, please share it here. The terribleness of Shatner's performance on the call will help support this BI's solution.

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  12. As for Shatner as "dual threat"--hasn't he done both movies and TV? Yes, the ST movies were based on a TV show, but he made seven of them and they were a FILM franchise. The fact the character is the same on TV and movies doesn't exclude him as a dual threat.

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  13. DDonna, referring to his drowned wife as "my blue wife" while he was on that 911 call...yikes

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  14. I don't know, it's a stretch.

    She had a blood alcohol of almost .30, valium in her system, and he wasn't home when she drowned (verified by witnesses, credit card time stamps).

    How exactly do the webslueths from debate.org reconcile those facts with just not liking Shatner?

    I think it's someone else, but have no idea who it could be.

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  15. Shatner just doesn't fit. He's not dual threat, people *did* suspect he killed his wife, and calling police in for a burglary isn't an alibi for murder.

    This place is so weird how it sometimes locks in on answers that aren't even close to fitting.

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  16. The fact you can't find that 911 recording online anymore is very telling. The fact people are saying Shatner's not a dual threat again and again, even though he was in quite a few blockbuster "Star Trek" movies, is also very telling.

    Shatner also had a very successful Broadway run with his one-man show, which then went on a very successful 20 city tour.

    https://www.broadway.com/buzz/159290/shatners-world-william-shatners-one-man-show-sets-broadway-dates/

    https://www.broadwayworld.com/shows/Shatner%27s-World-We-Just-Live-in-It-330527.html

    Of course it's Shatner.

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    1. Ok I’m pretty sure I found the correct one (most of it) scroll down a little to play Shatner’s.

      http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Celebrity_911_Calls

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  17. Stop saying bad things about the Shat! He is a gift to mankind.

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  18. Well if he lives in San Fernando, that means he does not have good money management. I think he gets married and wants to discard with minimal monetary loss. A True Toxic narcissist who thinks his legacy will make him immune to suspicion. No wonder Nimoy and all the others hated him

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  19. Yeah "the Shat" is a gift, all right. The gift that keeps on giving. Like herpes. William Shatner is the herpes of Hollywood.

    Well, one of them anyway. Maybe he's actually the pinkeye? That's something you can catch from being Shat on.

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  20. Maybe it’s the Priceline commercials that Enty is using for dual threat?

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  21. Dual threat does not mean tv and movies, especially not for the same role. That's just not what the term means.

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    1. Is this your first visit? This is Enty-speak for both movies and TV. He ignores that the rest of the world uses it to mean multi-talented, like singer/actor.

      The shat has had other movie and tv roles besides Star Trek as well - imdb people.

      He seems like the best guess floated so far.

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  23. It's not Shatner. His wife was a known alcoholic who was struggling with relapse when she died.

    Let's try someone else.

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  24. Shatner is 86 yrs old, I find it hard to believe he would try to off his wife when he has one foot in the grave, what would be the point..

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  25. When "dual threat" is used on this site, it DOES sometimes just mean both TV and movies, even if that's not generally how people use the term.

    But yeah, Shatner doesn't fit. He wasn't "only dual threat when he played a certain role", he's had plenty of other roles in both films and TV.

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    1. I read it as he was only *A list* when in that role.

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  26. Spend a little time here, I'm learning, and the shills and frauds gradually reveal themselves.

    Let's look at the total disinformation and misinformation just shared by "Sal Salington," now revealed as untrustworthy.

    "Sal Salington" writes: "Dual threat does not mean tv and movies, especially not for the same role. That's just not what the term means."

    And yet, Enty's BI literally states this person is "....only a dual threat and only A list when he played a certain role...."

    Enty flat out TELLS US it's for the same certain role. It's right there. Yet "Sal Salington" writes exactly the opposite. Just like he's trying to claim TV and movies are not a dual threat.

    You have no credibility any more "Sal Salington." You are a liar or a fool, and probably both because your lies are so foolish and easily exposed. You are the enemy.

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    1. In defense of Sal, he is far from alone in totally ignoring the clues that Enty writes. I have been pounding my head in frustration at the frequency of idiotic guesses lately; commenters who willfully or ignorantly totally disregard the clear clues and descriptions Enty gives us. It has become epidemic. Very aggravating when the comments are filled with statements like, "I don't know anything about this topic but a female singer I know is Annie Lennox so I am posting her name." Grrrrrrr

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  27. Meanwhile, who has a guess that fits the blind?

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  28. If you're looking for a non-acting success, Shatner was a well known novelist of the Tek scifi series which became a short lived series (some people believed they were mostly ghost written).

    Still don't believe this is a Shatner blind though!

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  29. I remember this Columbo episode...

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  30. Hey, he did a pilot as the lead in an Alexander the Great TV show. That's dual, baby! Playing a gay general--a true pioneer.

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  31. Ddonna, maybe switch to decaf coffee lol

    Shatner doesn't fit, or can anyone humor me by throwing out someone else who might fit just as well?

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  32. I don't buy it. An 86 year old offing his wife? For what the fuck? Isn't a divorce more simple? and if she takes half the money... you are still 86.

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  33. Shatner fits dual threat. Or quadruple threat, depending on how threatening you find his novels, his directing of movies, and his vocalizing.

    I hope it's not him, the beloved Canadian icon and all.

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    1. He is one of very few ppl who could fit the “only A list (while being) a dual threat in this one particular role” as Kirk I suppose. But it does seem weird that an 86 year old would fit the blind. Especially as Nerine’s problems were very well known and the language of the 911 call doesn’t seem out of the norm for him if you’re used to his odd word choices. I don’t even know, man. Maybe those of us more familiar with Shatner are being thrown off by enty not knowing/counting or forgetting Shatner’s extremely varied career. And shouldn’t he be listed as “foreign born”?

      (I’m counting sextuple threat at this point. Tv, Movies, Broadway, Novelist, recording artist, commercials (which really are different than TV as they tend to be print, TV, movie pre-show all at once). But I think the director thing would just be lumped in with actor/director in usual enty speech?)

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    2. Also, yeah, he doesn’t fit the “nobody suspected” part, clearly.

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  34. How about Keanu Reeves? His girlfriend died alone in a car crash near their home. He's A list for the Matrix series, and also sings in a band.

    I'm grasping at straws people.

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  35. My 1st thought was Robert Wagner.

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  36. @Jon: I'm with you! I love The Shat and I hate to hear all this bad stuff and I so hope none of it is true :(

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  37. Ddonna...you sound like a nutjob.

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  38. I wouldn't say that I ghost wrote for the Shat.....more like I put all of the words down for one of his books, and he said he did. To be fair, I only did that for two of the books. There were others like me.

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  39. It clearly says no one even thought of him as a suspect. Obviously, many people thought of Shatner as a suspect. Stop trying to cram a square guess into a round clue.

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  40. Keanu is not a dual threat in the same role. Plus he's got TWO iconic roles now, Neo and John Wick.

    Robert Wagner is guilty, guilty, guilty, but he's not the subject of this BI. Bad Bill Shatner is.

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    1. You forgot Ted! (Still my favorite Reeves role, but unless he also voiced Ted in the cartoon, not dual threat either).

      My biggest problem with thinking it’s Shatner, who I have highly mixed feelings about, is the “nobody suspected” part when it’s such a widespread theory. (I’m overlooking the fact that he’s foreign born and either a sextuple or septuplets threat by current accounting at this point...)

      So do we overlook that possibly incorrect or poorly phrased part of the blind or the “dual threat + A list in one specific role” interpretation? IDEK at this point.


      I mean, if we look instead into actors who were only a dual threat in one role as in, all Movies except for one well known TV series that opens up a lot more options. (But again wouldn’t that just be enty’s “mostly movies” instead of dual threat. Sigh)

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  41. Howling...great comments and the Shat commentary is so so satisfying...he is a no good guy. Don't know if this is him but....LOL

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  42. Wouldn't it say "foreign-born" if it was William Shatner.

    He put out a spoken word album about 15 years ago. It's actually pretty good! In one of the "songs" he talks about the wife that drowned. And his difficult relationship with his daughter(s). He had help making the album - Brad Paisley, Joe Jackson, and others I can't recall off the top of my head.

    He's 86. No clue how old his current wife is, but at that age he needs someone to take care of him. He does look and act younger than 86, but he probably has age issues all the same.

    I doubt it's him. Besides, he talks too much, lol!

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  43. "No one even thought to think of him as a suspect" immediately rules out Shatner. Lots of people suspected him at the time Nerine drowned. Besides, and I am a huge Trekkie, does anyone think that the Shat is smart enough to plan out a murder? Trekkie that I am, I'm the first to admit that his isn't the brightest phaser on the Enterprise.

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    1. The role being Remy in Ratatouille?

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    2. Patton Oswalt was on Adult Swim and is currently in a series ...

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  46. @Inflatable That's really cool, I liked the TekWar books.

    Hey maybe Shatner is just checking off his bucket list twice.

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  47. I always know when Enty is on the money by the amount of White Knights that show up to rescue their hero that don't normally post.

    Damn on this one.

    I had a brief fling with a godson of his years and years ago.

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    1. White knight? Hardly. But to answer your question, Probably because:

      1: he’s “foreign born” in enty-speak
      2: he doesn’t fit “nobody suspected”
      3: he’s more than “dual threat” in enty speak however you slice it, having had success in TV, movies, stage, recording artist, publishing, directing, and possibly advertising/pitchman.

      I think blinds like this get more people speaking up because many people are certain it’s one famous answer, but the answer doesn’t seem to fit the blind as perfectly when you look at each point that was included and excluded from the blind.

      I have no dog in this fight other than having a hard time overlooking the parts that don’t fit in favor of the three points that do.

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  48. This clearly points to Shatner but I don't wanna believe Captain Kirk killed his wife so hmmmmm mmmmm mmmmm caaaaaan't heaaaar you....

    "does anyone think that the Shat is smart enough to plan out a murder?"

    If he really did kill Nerine, it might have happened on the spur of the moment and it would be hard to convict on. Shat comes home after an evening out, is enraged that his wife is hugely drunk again, also taking Valium, and is passing out, and he shoves her hard into the pool and drowns. Maybe?

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  49. It's clearly not Shatner, even accepting Enty's idiosyncratic dual threat term. Not one bit of the rest of it fits.

    I get ignoring one part of a blind. Sometimes Enty is wrong about some detail, sometimes he's probably working plausible deniability. But if you're ignoring the whole thing, you're just...well, wrong.

    It doesn't matter much here since this one will probably become clear soon enough.

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  50. Point 1 - This former A list dual threat actor: William Shatner in movies and television plus has dabbled in recording and onstage.

    Point 2 - Who was only dual threat and only A list when he played a certain role: Captain James Tiberius Kirk.

    Point 3 - Significant other tragedy in the past: His wife's drowning.

    How can anyone say the clues don't fit unless your paid to say that?

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    1. Whoops. Put my answer on your other comment above after another Blogger glitch.

      It wouldn’t be the first time I was accused of being paid to comment. (Alas, if only. I could use the check!)

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  51. Patton Oswalt sort of fits. Rataoutille or whatever would be his A-list role. The death of his last wife seems pretty suspicious but no one other than like, Sam Hyde, was saying it. However, I really can't think of him as a serial killer.

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  52. Yes, deciding I'm paid does match the level of sleuthing skills evident in this thread.

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  53. Don't personalize, Sal. You weren't the only one in this thread and many of them come across as shills.

    Snarking at me doesn't change anything.

    I know it sucks when our sacred cows get slaughtered.

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  54. Man, how do I get paid to write comments on CDaN? Here I am wasting time at work (so, uh, I guess I do get paid) writing my masterpieces for free, like a damn chump.

    KRIS JENNER! I'M AVAILABLE AT LOW LOW RATES!

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  55. Seems like a tough crowd today so I’m sure I’ll get roasted for even suggesting...shady circumstances regarding the death of someone close read to me like Jim Carrey - but he’s Canadian-born and there were a few roles he could have been A+ for in the mid-90s, not just one...don’t think I can make that fit!

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  56. Pretty sure Patton Oswald killed his wife, too, but he's not this guy. He's not A-list and he doesn't have any iconic roles.

    Ashton Kutcher's another one with a dead significant other, with a story that didn't really add up. But they weren't married. He's almost surely a bad dude, though, with his false front non-profit about human trafficking and sucking up to traitor/war criminal/S&L crook John McCain.

    But this is and can only be about Bad Bill Shatner. Despite the nonsensical protests of Sal, Sal, the PR flack's pal, and others.

    Unless it's.....ANNIE LENNOX???? [ do I need a /s for that? ]

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  57. The "A list in only one role" trips up most of these guesses. Film and tv for the same role, and for no other roles *in either*.

    Shatner doesn't fit (Ka-ching!). Reeves doesn't fit. Ashton doesn't fit. Patton doesn't fit.

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  58. @Ddonna I see what you did there 😂

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  59. Right, Tv actor, movie actor, spoken word lyricist lol, spokesman for priceline, host of many discovery channel shows, etc.. he's much more than a dual threat.

    It's like when everyone guessed Trump for the texts that would make jaws drop. cofefe? Really? The sexts would have to be among Trump, Putin and Merkel involving pansies and unicorns, meth, midgets, cofefe, james Franco and Oprah. And still then no one's jaw's would drop.

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  60. Tiptoes into thread...

    James Woods

    Tiptoes out again...

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    1. What was James Woods' iconic role?

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  61. I've read "Inside Star Trek: The Real Story" by Robert Justman and Herbert Solow. I recommend it for a pretty frank telling of what went on behind the scenes. Even though I suspect even they left some stuff out. Shatner comes across as a serial cheating narcissistic a-hole. If memory serves he managed to piss off just about everyone. The truth about Roddenberry's casting couching is written about as well.

    Shatner was even at odds with Nimoy because Spock was a bigger hit with audiences than Kirk, and he couldn't handle it. It seems he later managed to patch things up with Nimoy for him to say nice things about Shatner later in life, and I guess he sucks up to you if he regards you as high level enough, but all those he deems below him he is a dick to, like to the rest of the cast apparently. Takei tells the story of how he lobbied for Sulu to become a Captain of his own ship in Star Trek 2, but when filming the scene of his promotion, Shatner kept mumbling his lines so the scene couldn't be used. He couldn't even handle someone else in the cast getting a fictional promotion. I also remember Wil Wheaton telling the story of what a dick Shatner was to him while he was a kid filming TNG. All around, a complete jerk.

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    1. Accurate assessment of everything I’ve read about him, too. He’s not what you could call a nice guy unless you’re very blinkered to his propensity for always being:

      1: right
      2: the center of attention
      3: the most important person in the room.


      He didn’t even bother joining his former TOS cast mates when they were all being honored by NASA. Nobody was surprised. Few were disappointed.

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  62. "No one even thought to think of him as a suspect."

    That right there cancels out Shatner.

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  63. Damn folks, every once in a while, all ya'll turn on each other here in the comments. I'm fairly new, but this thread seems unusually cannibalistic... I am wondering if all our cycles synced or something (you men too... )

    That said- I certainly appreciate everyone who comes up with a guess/theory as well as everyone who nicely shoots holes in any vulnerable guesses/theories. It makes for great reading, and you are appreciated.

    Happy Friday!

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  64. But guys, here's the thing. ENTY IS NOT EXACTLY OCCAM'S RAZOR. YOu know? He fucks up, he writes these things quickly, etc. This isn't some fiendishly difficult mystery plot, it's a gossip blind tossed off in a hurry, part of 10-12 a day. So don't get too forensic here.

    (Srsly, been on the site since the beginning. Know how this works.)

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  65. Same here Krab, although I rarely comment. Remember Timmy/Shimmy? And what happened to the Toothy Tile blinds, they used to be about 80% of the sites content! :)

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  66. Unknown - I was just trolling with James Woods. There was an argument in another thread about how people just throw his name out for every blind. Couldn’t resist.

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  67. This is so terrible. It is actually A LIFE (two, including the person who is already dead). Can’t someone do something? Or is that what we’re here to do? Please GOD this can’t be Keanu. I honestly think now that there is just a handful of straight-up nice guys left and he’s got to be one of them.

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  68. Travolta? Maybe Kelly is preparing to run and talk...

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  69. Not to be debbie downer here but if we rule out The Shat lets look at other men who have lost their wives.
    Pierce Brosnan-Actor & singer. A-List as Bond? Maybe.
    Martin Short lost his wife. Actor and comedian, A-List in SNL days?
    Stanley Tucci? Definitely A-List and dual threat.
    Patton Oswalt. I don’t care what anyone says this guy has an Emmy for writing and has been working steadily in HW since Seinfeld in 1994. Hard to pinpoint an A-List role though.
    Granted some of these women died of cancer but who is to say the men didn’t help? More importantly I would be flabbergasted if it was any of these men.

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  70. This sounds like Don Johnson. He was a dual threat in his Miami Vice days, from that album he put out that actually spawned a few hit singles. And his past is shady as f

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  71. Bill Shatner recently blocked me on Twitter. Dunno why, I wasn’t trolling him or anything.

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  72. I don’t think it’s Shatner. Many people thought he killed wife#3.

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  73. To the people saying, "Not Shatner", do you remember when his wife drowned? Or is it before your time? Because I remember when it happened and that 911 call was pure Shat style, totally rehearsed. He did it and did whatever this is.

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  75. Not sure if someone mentioned this before but scanning the comments, I don't think so.
    So many people thought Kirk had a least something to do with his wife's death. Her injuries were inconsistent with her falling and drowning.
    He drank as much, if not more, than his wife, some have said.
    That's why I don't think it's him.

    No one even thought to think of him as a suspect.

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  76. Shatner: The speech he gave on television after his wife was found dead was cringe worthy because of the terrible acting, and fake crying. How the hell did he ever become an actor????

    Wagner: Because he will always be a suspect.

    Robert Blake: Forever a suspect.

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  77. Lol, Hortensia, he wasn't a good actor, in anyone's eyes. Even on The Twilight zone, he was hilarious.
    I, too, went to Wagner and Blake, but there was much suspicion on both counts.
    That's why I'm thinking that it's someone more obscure or where his S/O was already ill.

    Then again, it says that he was a duel threat, due to a certain role, which means that he played the same role on both tv and cinema or stage.
    Shatner did both tv and movie Kirk's but I'm thinking on stage?

    Also, the blind isn't gender specific.

    Also, ENTY, if you know someone's going to have a tragic end, don't you think you should alert the authorities or, at least, the person in question?
    Unless this is CDaN fiction, of course. :)

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  78. I don't know if this is Shatner but he did do a spoken word record including the song Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds. So dual threat. I guess.

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  79. Everyone is assuming the actor was and is married it doesn't say that anywhere in the blind. Just 'significant other' which could apply to the previous instance as well. Nor does it state the past and/or now significant others were female.

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  80. If you watch Star Trek, you might die from boredom - Dual threat!

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  82. Was Shatner a suspect to the police? Did they suspect him of murder? If not, maybe that's what enty meant. That the police never even thought to suspect him.

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  84. So in that 911 call he says he went to bed and then woke up and went out to the pool and found her, but on the TV interview he wasn’t there, came back and found her... Further down the list of other YouTube vids when you watch that is one called “William Shatner loses it in recording studio”. He doesn’t lose it at all, at least, not in the way you would think. What you hear is a very practised manipulator - a calm, measured voice speaking in a gentle and reassuring way while constantly criticising someone. The way he talks to the producer suggests that it’s the producer who’s in control, that Shatner is doing what HE wants, that it’s HIS say and HIS decision, when in actual fact it’s Shatner who has all the control there (hear the producer panicking, back-pedalling, apologising). Having met one of those types before, that rings huge alarm bells.

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  86. The start of the alibi...?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5316245/Star-Trek-star-William-Shatners-home-security-scare.html

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  87. Well, this blind is pretty easy. If his wife dies, people can say I told you so.

    Although I'm missing the part of the blind, where whoever gave the information ran straight to the police after telling the story to enty, like in that other blind with the singer's friend going directly to the FBI.

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  88. Two posters have put the same 911 call video URL on here, and it is not Shatner, it's a different drowning, and the facts don't match his case at all. Yet people are commenting on it, as if it was gospel.

    People. Read the description below the video to make sure it's relevant before you post or comment on it.

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  89. The disinfo and misinfo on this blind have been so strong that it only solidifies my surety this is Shatner. He's made a lot of sinister "friends," it seems.

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  90. Saying he couldn’t have done it because she was a known alcoholic struggling with sobriety is ridiculous. If I wanted to off a drug addict, the most logical thing to do is give them enough drugs to overdose and everyone thinks it was just an accidental overdose.

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  91. @Travelgrrl
    You're right, I took it for granted that it was the correct 911 call when the other poster posted it. Something's wrong with my audio (it just buzzes) and I just went by the captions on the video.

    @M52799
    You could be right regarding the police not suspecting him.

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  92. Anonymous9:02 PM

    Bubbles, we all figured he killed Nireen. That is the part that doesn't fit "no one suspected..."

    We ALL suspected him..... it was a surprise he was cleared

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  93. That IS the Shatner call, but you've got to buy it now? It used to be easily found on the Internet. Somebody should buy it, just to put it back up on YouTube.

    Not one of Bad Bill's better or more convincing performances.

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  94. If it's William Shatner, I called that one when I saw him making his statement on TV. It sounded prewritten and rehearsed, plus he's not that good of an actor. I said, "He either did it or had it done" to my roommates as we watched.

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