This B+ list actor who is an Academy Award winner/nominee and is equally as famous for another entertainment profession was thought to have overdosed while in Europe this week. Guess all these predators going down has him worried.
I was surprised to see Chris Tucker on there, couldn't find anything as to why except he'd been on the Lolita Express (which is damning enough, but I wondered if there had been accusations that were buried)
I haven't heard anything about Seth Rogan, but if the James Franco rumors are true, how could Seth not know what James is up to? At the very least he has to have heard the rumors by now. And he continues to be friends with him and work with him, which means he plays a part in exposing all these women on their sets to James. That makes him complicit. And if you're complicit, maybe it's because you're into the same thing. But still, this is the first time I've seen Seth Rogan's name connected to any of this.
When I was around 14ish I saw 30stm, a friend who had been backstage before brought me back there. We had met him and he popped out some drinks, and giving them to us. I was starstruck of course and had no problem accepting them and getting drunk and taking some other things. I remember him being very grabby and things eventually led to us all being together. (not band mates surprisingly- they apparently went out to get a drink or something like that. I did get some pictures later on, but normal 'fan' ones.
He kept on telling us that we were very soft, and pretty. Liked stroking my hair, and tried to get us to give him our phone numbers. Ended up giving my aim nickname, but nothing ever came of it.
tweetysweety- JL gave you the alcohol? did he give you the "other things" too? I'm assuming drugs? Just curious what kind he was sharing. or was it less like sharing and more like pressuring?
Yes, giving the alcohol I clearly remember, because he was so casual about it. It had made me feel so mature. I don't remember it being really pressuring, but more like I know you girls can handle this sort of talking. He was on something I don't know what, but he was jumpy and gestured wildly. I have to admit though, even if he was being pressuring, I doubt I would have noticed. I was young and dumb enough to do almost anything to make him happy.
I'm certain most if not all Rock stars fucked groupies who were underage. They don't check IDs, they just want pussy that's easy and available. I was around another entertainment business that also dgaf about age and I know at least 3 girl groupies who weren't even 16 (and one of those was a mother\daughter team) who did these guys.
@sandybrook that is my thoughts. Many years ago i was a rock groupie, as much as one could be where I grew up. But my friend and I went to every concert, we knew what hotel they would be in, and where to sit and wait hours before every show for the buses to arrive. I met several, and I absolutely lied about my age, every time, I was 16 and like most girls, i could easily pass for much older. TBH I partied with several, but I never went further, but many did, and they were my age, that was the rock groupie lifestyle. ALL the girls there knew what they were there for, and that is WHAT they wanted, they did not have to be forced, they did not have to be drugged or plied with alcohol. SO I have a different thought about pedophilia. I absolutely agree anything by coercion or when incapacitated is rape, but I am more in the mind that a 16 year old most of the time, knows fully well what they are doing. So the rock stars with the groupies is a bit hard for me.
@truthseeker - I have a friend who is in a relatively successful band in Europe and the stories he's told me about what goes on are similar. Lot of stories about girls literally banging on the tourbus doors in the middle of the night wanting to come in and have sex - sometimes not even knowing what the band is, just excited to fuck anyone in a band - and what he calls a 'surprising' number who are willing to fuck entire bands if they're up for it. Groupies - as opposed to just female fans - aren't exactly innocent angels, to put it mildly. A lot of musicians don't actually participate in this stuff but have seen it all over the years, while the ones who seek out that kind of activity don't have a problem finding it.
Truthseeker a friend was a groupie WHO followed a world famous rock group from the UK to Germany on tour she was passed around until they got back to the UK. She loved it was only upset when it was all over. She would wear badges with their name on WHO does that well she did and did it again with lesser bands
i think a lot of us are missing the point about the age of consent. what we think we want may not be the best thing for us. i'm gonna take a wild guess that when hanging out for bands, girls are also drinking and drugging. the teen brain isn't fully developed, especially re decision-making, and drug use begun in the teen years stops emotional maturation. look at courtney stodden. sexually mature body, really bad judgment. i was no angel, was sexually active at 16, so don't call me a prude, but i've often looked back and wished i'd waited. but kids need to be protected from their own crazed sex drives and adults who would prey on them, whether they're "willing participant" or not.
things groupies do is nothing new.. the song "come on Eileen" dexy and the midnight runners is about a old friend of one of the band turned groupie that followed the band around and they took turns at 'title of song'. this was the story told on a music tv show by a band member that was deemed inappropriate for air and was cut from the aired episode.
laws are made to protect kids not only from predators but from themselves. it's one thing to be full of yourself and excited about meeting your favorite actor or band as a young teen, but what parent thinks letting their 16-yr-old party and have promiscuous sex is a fine idea? geez, even 18-yr-olds are freaking babies who think they know it all. they don't!
I definitely think there is a distinction between men who are attracted to pre pubescent children (pedophilia) and sex with a 16 year old groupie with a womans body who lies about her age. I'd consider the latter to be sex with a legal minor (which is still a crime) but it isn't pedophilia, the man is attracted to the bodies of sexually mature young women, not children.
of course there is a difference between attraction to small children and to sexually mature teens. it's a world of difference. and our culture sexualizes young people in advertising and fashion, which is very warped. but just because someone's attractive to you doesn't mean they're fair game even if they're "consenting". this is why there are laws. the teen brain and emotional development are in general not ready for this stage of adult life.
I am honestly floored at so many comments excusing the predatory behavior of these musicians, but then again, this is how we ended up with so many creeps in Hollywood, they just knew where to find sanctuary. Just because you're a rock star doesn't mean shit.
As a 16 year old, I definitely am not physically or mentally mature. And neither are my friends that are my age. To think of an adult, especially one in a position od power such as a celebrity, preying on me or my friends is absolutely disgusting. Even if it's "consensual" (which it's not, a minor can't consent to an adult), it's still predatory to take advantage of a high schooler who looks up to you.
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ReplyDeletehe's on this new list of pedophiles on imdb, maybe scared of facing the music?
Alleged Pedophiles in the IMDb
Yes, saw that list yesterday!!! Glad to see Sheen and Singer listed.
DeleteI was surprised to see Chris Tucker on there, couldn't find anything as to why except he'd been on the Lolita Express (which is damning enough, but I wondered if there had been accusations that were buried)
DeleteThis list makes no sense to me. How is a Jimmy Saville towards the BOTTOM of the list?
ReplyDelete^perhaps because he's where they all should be - rotting in the dirt
ReplyDeleteWhy is Seth Rogan on there?
ReplyDeleteHow long until that is scrubbed?
ReplyDeleteI haven't heard anything about Seth Rogan, but if the James Franco rumors are true, how could Seth not know what James is up to? At the very least he has to have heard the rumors by now. And he continues to be friends with him and work with him, which means he plays a part in exposing all these women on their sets to James. That makes him complicit. And if you're complicit, maybe it's because you're into the same thing. But still, this is the first time I've seen Seth Rogan's name connected to any of this.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was around 14ish I saw 30stm, a friend who had been backstage before brought me back there. We had met him and he popped out some drinks, and giving them to us. I was starstruck of course and had no problem accepting them and getting drunk and taking some other things. I remember him being very grabby and things eventually led to us all being together. (not band mates surprisingly- they apparently went out to get a drink or something like that. I did get some pictures later on, but normal 'fan' ones.
ReplyDeleteHe kept on telling us that we were very soft, and pretty. Liked stroking my hair, and tried to get us to give him our phone numbers. Ended up giving my aim nickname, but nothing ever came of it.
I've read other blinds saying he is bi... I can see both... but what do I know lol
Deletetweetysweety- JL gave you the alcohol? did he give you the "other things" too? I'm assuming drugs? Just curious what kind he was sharing. or was it less like sharing and more like pressuring?
ReplyDeleteYes, giving the alcohol I clearly remember, because he was so casual about it. It had made me feel so mature. I don't remember it being really pressuring, but more like I know you girls can handle this sort of talking. He was on something I don't know what, but he was jumpy and gestured wildly. I have to admit though, even if he was being pressuring, I doubt I would have noticed. I was young and dumb enough to do almost anything to make him happy.
ReplyDeleteCan't believe that list is still up
ReplyDeleteThat list is missing the Dad from 7th Heaven
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ReplyDeleteI'm certain most if not all Rock stars fucked groupies who were underage. They don't check IDs, they just want pussy that's easy and available. I was around another entertainment business that also dgaf about age and I know at least 3 girl groupies who weren't even 16 (and one of those was a mother\daughter team) who did these guys.
ReplyDeleteNRG,not an actor.
ReplyDeleteJ.K. Simmons?
ReplyDelete@sandybrook that is my thoughts. Many years ago i was a rock groupie, as much as one could be where I grew up. But my friend and I went to every concert, we knew what hotel they would be in, and where to sit and wait hours before every show for the buses to arrive. I met several, and I absolutely lied about my age, every time, I was 16 and like most girls, i could easily pass for much older. TBH I partied with several, but I never went further, but many did, and they were my age, that was the rock groupie lifestyle. ALL the girls there knew what they were there for, and that is WHAT they wanted, they did not have to be forced, they did not have to be drugged or plied with alcohol. SO I have a different thought about pedophilia. I absolutely agree anything by coercion or when incapacitated is rape, but I am more in the mind that a 16 year old most of the time, knows fully well what they are doing. So the rock stars with the groupies is a bit hard for me.
ReplyDelete@truthseeker - I have a friend who is in a relatively successful band in Europe and the stories he's told me about what goes on are similar. Lot of stories about girls literally banging on the tourbus doors in the middle of the night wanting to come in and have sex - sometimes not even knowing what the band is, just excited to fuck anyone in a band - and what he calls a 'surprising' number who are willing to fuck entire bands if they're up for it. Groupies - as opposed to just female fans - aren't exactly innocent angels, to put it mildly. A lot of musicians don't actually participate in this stuff but have seen it all over the years, while the ones who seek out that kind of activity don't have a problem finding it.
ReplyDeleteTruthseeker a friend was a groupie WHO followed a world famous rock group from the UK to Germany on tour she was passed around until they got back to the UK. She loved it was only upset when it was all over. She would wear badges with their name on WHO does that well she did and did it again with lesser bands
ReplyDeletei think a lot of us are missing the point about the age of consent. what we think we want may not be the best thing for us. i'm gonna take a wild guess that when hanging out for bands, girls are also drinking and drugging. the teen brain isn't fully developed, especially re decision-making, and drug use begun in the teen years stops emotional maturation. look at courtney stodden. sexually mature body, really bad judgment. i was no angel, was sexually active at 16, so don't call me a prude, but i've often looked back and wished i'd waited. but kids need to be protected from their own crazed sex drives and adults who would prey on them, whether they're "willing participant" or not.
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ReplyDeleteOk, has anyone seen Johnny Depp this week?.
ReplyDeletethings groupies do is nothing new..
ReplyDeletethe song "come on Eileen" dexy and the midnight runners is about a old friend of one of the band turned groupie that followed the band around and they took turns at 'title of song'. this was the story told on a music tv show by a band member that was deemed inappropriate for air and was cut from the aired episode.
laws are made to protect kids not only from predators but from themselves. it's one thing to be full of yourself and excited about meeting your favorite actor or band as a young teen, but what parent thinks letting their 16-yr-old party and have promiscuous sex is a fine idea? geez, even 18-yr-olds are freaking babies who think they know it all. they don't!
ReplyDeleteThat's perfect.
DeleteI definitely think there is a distinction between men who are attracted to pre pubescent children (pedophilia) and sex with a 16 year old groupie with a womans body who lies about her age. I'd consider the latter to be sex with a legal minor (which is still a crime) but it isn't pedophilia, the man is attracted to the bodies of sexually mature young women, not children.
ReplyDeleteof course there is a difference between attraction to small children and to sexually mature teens. it's a world of difference. and our culture sexualizes young people in advertising and fashion, which is very warped. but just because someone's attractive to you doesn't mean they're fair game even if they're "consenting". this is why there are laws. the teen brain and emotional development are in general not ready for this stage of adult life.
ReplyDeleteJust sayin +1
DeleteI am honestly floored at so many comments excusing the predatory behavior of these musicians, but then again, this is how we ended up with so many creeps in Hollywood, they just knew where to find sanctuary. Just because you're a rock star doesn't mean shit.
ReplyDeletesADYBROOK PLEASE TELL ME U AREN'T TALKING ABOUT DILLON Francis.
ReplyDelete@Chancey the dad from 7th Heaven is on the list. Stephen Collins is number 85.
ReplyDeleteAs a 16 year old, I definitely am not physically or mentally mature. And neither are my friends that are my age. To think of an adult, especially one in a position od power such as a celebrity, preying on me or my friends is absolutely disgusting. Even if it's "consensual" (which it's not, a minor can't consent to an adult), it's still predatory to take advantage of a high schooler who looks up to you.
ReplyDeleteThe IMDB list has been taken down now. Wonder if it'll get re-posted?
ReplyDeletePrevious blind about seth being obnoxious to a studio execs daughter.
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