Four For Friday - The Mouse That Roared
The subject of this blind is an actress that I consider A list. If you're a certain age, then you know who she is and probably would call her A list too. She's is pretty low profile, but I think she probably likes it that way. The reason is because she was once involved in a very notorious situation that brought a lot of attention onto her that she did not want. Most people who can remember what went down think they know the whole story, but the thing is, the accepted narrative is only a tiny piece of the entire situation.
I'll call our actress Ms. L. When she was younger, she was considered one of the most intriguing and talented people of her generation. She hung around a group of other very young and dynamic people of similar ages who were really enjoying themselves during those times. Ms. L eventually entered into a relationship with an uber famous man who I'll call Mr. M. They appeared to be very serious about one another for quite a while- until a very disturbing incident occurred. Ms. L was collateral damage in that situation, in terms of everything that took place.
The sad truth is that Ms. L was actually herself a victim of relationship violence that at times was so severe that she required hospitalization. Even years later, she has serious residual trauma from her past situation that almost no one knows about. This violence escalated after the above mentioned incident occurred. Ms. L was also subjected to physical and emotional intimidation to prevent her from talking about things she had seen and witnessed in her situation. She was essentially silenced by threats and kept quiet out of fear for years.
Anyway, fast forward to now. Ms. L has kept her mouth shut for a very long time, but has received extensive treatment for trauma and PTSD-type problems. It has taken a long time to heal and she has been fortunate that she has had good psychological care and support from her loved ones. Again, virtually no one knows she has had any of these problems-- she's been very good at hiding it. The only people who know the severity of what she had to endure are close family and only a few friends who have been sworn to secrecy. Ms. L also suffered from some repressed memory issues about what happened to her and only recently has been able to recall all the horrible incidents in detail.
Ms. L has a young female actress friend who recently became aware of Ms. L's story. I'll call her Ms. C. Ms. L confided her story to Ms. C as a cautionary tale so that the young actress would be careful not to get herself into a similar situation. Ms. C. is an outspoken feminist and looks up to Ms. L as a mother figure and she's urging Ms. L to go public with her story. Ms. L has also gotten to the point in her therapy where she is no longer afraid and is ready to tell all. She's angry about being silenced and her family, friends and medical team are supportive of her desire to go public.
Mr. M and the other people involved in the past situation have of course gone on with their lives as if nothing happened, and have no clue that Ms. L could potentially expose them. If she does decide to go public, there will be added shock value because those who witnessed what was going on and did not intervene will also be called out publically. The best part is that Ms. L also has journals and medical records that document the abuse which will be undeniable.
This story has the potential to be huge and will shine an important light on relationship abuse survivors. Ms. C is also anxious to help publicize Ms. L's story and has a lot of power to do so because she has a massive following on social media. I hope Ms. L can remain strong and maintain the courage necessary to come forward.
Winona, the scandal being her shoplifting incident?
ReplyDeletewow, if so could it have been johnny depp as the abuser?
ReplyDeleteWinona and Johnny
ReplyDelete[…] The subject of this blind is an actress that I consider A list. If you’re a certain age, then you know who she is and probably would call her A list too. She’s is pretty low profile, but I think she probably likes it that way. The reason is because she was once involved in a very notorious situation that brought a lot of attention onto her that she did not want. Most people who can remember what went down think they know the whole story, but the thing is, the accepted narrative is only a tiny piece of the entire situation. I’ll call our actress Ms. L. When she was younger, she was considered one of the most intriguing and talented people of her generation. She hung around a group of other very young and dynamic people of similar ages who were really enjoying themselves during those times. Ms. L eventually entered into a relationship with an uber famous man who I’ll call Mr. M. They appeared to be very serious about one another for quite a while- until a very disturbing incident occurred. Ms. L was collateral damage in that situation, in terms of everything that took place. The sad truth is that Ms. L was actually herself a victim of relationship violence that at times was so severe that she required hospitalization. Even years later, she has serious residual trauma from her past situation that almost no one knows about. This violence escalated after the above mentioned incident occurred. Ms. L was also subjected to physical and emotional intimidation to prevent her from talking about things she had seen and witnessed in her situation. She was essentially silenced by threats and kept quiet out of fear for years. Anyway, fast forward to now. Ms. L has kept her mouth shut for a very long time, but has received extensive treatment for trauma and PTSD-type problems. It has taken a long time to heal and she has been fortunate that she has had good psychological care and support from her loved ones. Again, virtually no one knows she has had any of these problems– she’s been very good at hiding it. The only people who know the severity of what she had to endure are close family and only a few friends who have been sworn to secrecy. Ms. L also suffered from some repressed memory issues about what happened to her and only recently has been able to recall all the horrible incidents in detail. Ms. L has a young female actress friend who recently became aware of Ms. L’s story. I’ll call her Ms. C. Ms. L confided her story to Ms. C as a cautionary tale so that the young actress would be careful not to get herself into a similar situation. Ms. C. is an outspoken feminist and looks up to Ms. L as a mother figure and she’s urging Ms. L to go public with her story. Ms. L has also gotten to the point in her therapy where she is no longer afraid and is ready to tell all. She’s angry about being silenced and her family, friends and medical team are supportive of her desire to go public. Mr. M and the other people involved in the past situation have of course gone on with their lives as if nothing happened, and have no clue that Ms. L could potentially expose them. If she does decide to go public, there will be added shock value because those who witnessed what was going on and did not intervene will also be called out publically. The best part is that Ms. L also has journals and medical records that document the abuse which will be undeniable. This story has the potential to be huge and will shine an important light on relationship abuse survivors. Ms. C is also anxious to help publicize Ms. L’s story and has a lot of power to do so because she has a massive following on social media. I hope Ms. L can remain strong and maintain the courage necessary to come forward. The post Four For Friday – The Mouse That Roared appeared first on CRAZY DAYS AND NIGHTS. Source: Four For Friday – The Mouse That Roared […]
ReplyDeletenot sure her being "collateral damage" matches winona ryder's fall from grace tho.
ReplyDeleteLiza Minelki and Mycheal Barishnikov?
ReplyDeleteI do think it is Winona Ryder (shoplifting) and Johnny Depp. There was a blind not so long ago that was supposedly about him accidentally shooting her and then freaking out
ReplyDeleteThe event-- Judy Garland died?
ReplyDeleteMoore Lowe
ReplyDeleteI think the shooting one was Kelly Preston. and the shooter was Charlie Sheen or something.
ReplyDeleteNo, this was definitely about Depp/Ryder. The other one about Kelly/Charlie was well known, she somehow got accidentally shot in the stomach.
ReplyDeleteOf course there was also Mickey Rourke/Carre Otis. She accidentally got shot when she pulled a loaded gun out of her bag that Mickey had stashed in there. She wrote about that in her book.
Could it be somebody from the Brat Pack like Ally Sheedy and Richie Sambora as the "uber famous man"?
ReplyDeleteElizabeth McGovern/Sean Penn -engaged for a year and she abruptly ended it.
ReplyDeleteITA!! Fits 100% perfectly.
ReplyDeleteEmma Watson for the younger friend/feminist.McGoverns husband Simon Curtis directed Emma in"My week with Marilyn" in 2011
ReplyDeleteA bit out there but:
ReplyDeleteMr. M: Matthew Broderick
Ms. L: Jennifer Grey
Traumatic Incident: 1987 Car Crash
Ms. C: Miley Cyrus or Vanessa Hudgens?
Umm.... Samantha Mathis (L) and River Phoenix. (M)
ReplyDeleteCollateral damage: She was present at his death and I remember hearing about his temper.
Also, the article, at least as written, doesn't mention Mr. M in the present day. After his death, she shunned the spotlight.
This one is good. I hope whoever this is does come forward. This makes me think it could be a former Disney actress though because of the mouse reference. Jodie Foster comes to mind and the Reagan thing. But I have no idea who the man would be, since even though she's come out I don't know if she ever dated men. Also makes me think further back - Nicholson- Anjelica Houston- Polanski case too.
ReplyDeleteWinona did that to herself with repetitive shoplifting. She has nobody to blame for the but herself.
ReplyDeleteRiver's death could have been the event that for some reason caused the break-up of Winona Ryder and Johnny Depp too...they were all in the same circle.
ReplyDeleteHow was she collateral damage when she was one shoplifting?
ReplyDeleteBut Winona Ryder was dating Matt Damon when that shop lifting incident went down. The other people who could get dragged into it are Ben Afflick and Goopy!!
ReplyDeleteHow Goopy got the script of Shakespeare in love??..... it was sent to Ryder, all 4 would hang around together and then Goppy read it, liked it, went after it and got it.
Depps druggy set of people are hardly considered reputable enough to be taken down if the news is out. Dudes at the last leg of whatever fame he can cobble together.
Goopy and Afflick knew Damon was beating Winona Ryder- now that is a scandal!!!
I thought Kelly Preston -Didn't she get shot by Charlie Sheen? When I was reading it, but I dont think she would be considered an A list actress
ReplyDeleteShe's not and was never close to A list.
ReplyDeleteBut its not coz it says collateral damage. So what did Mr M do that brought undue bad attention to Ms L?? Neither Depp nor Damon fit that part.
ReplyDeletemaybe the younger actress is Natalia Dyer from Stranger Things? The ages would be about right.
ReplyDeleteI read it as she's stayed quiet due to the shoplifting, but a bigger incident made her collateral damage in the relationship (eventually being dumped).
ReplyDeleteDoes the timeline match with the supposed business partner of Depp's being...killed?
if johnny depp accidentally shot winona ryder, then she was definitely "collateral damage". and if as do tell says, depp freaked out afterward, that could have been the impetus for the escalating violence following the incident.
ReplyDeletejane fonda and amy shumer
ReplyDeletethough what if there's a hint in the title of the blind, "the mouse that roared" to mean peter sellers and someone. britt ekland? low profile now, of "certain age". but sellers is dead and it doesn't sound like mr. m is.
ReplyDeleteThe article, as written, clearly implies that everyone, including Mr. M, is still alive.
ReplyDeleteMillie Bobby Brown has almost 4 million instagram followers. Is that considered massive? I can see Winona being a mother like figure to her.
ReplyDeleteKelly was shot in the hand. It was rumored during the time that she was going to shoot Charlie over cheating or kill herself. Thank God she did not. Good guesses guys!!! Like the Ryder/Depp guess along with Penn/Mcgovern one. Cant wait for the reveal!
ReplyDeleteI also wonder if Lena Dunham is the younger actress. Doesn't she have a huge social media following?
ReplyDeleteMaybe she was shoplifting as a cry for help. She could obviously afford the merchandise.
ReplyDeleteDemi Moore and Emilio Estevez?
ReplyDeleteI was originally thinking this was Daryl Hanna, JFK JR (uber famous) & Jackson Brown (abuser), but too many things don't fit. After reading other comments and rereading the blind, I think you guys got it with Johnny & Winona. Although she wasn't still with Johnny when the shoplifting scandal occured, if you recall, they also found drugs she didn't have an RX for. The reason she may have used/possibly abused the drugs could be because of all of the trauma and physical pain she suffers because of what he did to her. If that's the case, she could have done a big prime-time interview and explained all of this. If she had, instead of the whole incident derailing her career, it would have actually gotten her sympathy.
ReplyDeleteThat's why I was wondering about Nicholson and Anjelica and the Polanski rape case. Didn't the incident happen at Nicholson's house?
ReplyDeleteEnty often uses initials of characters played in big roles. . . Winona's breakout role was Lydia in Beetlejuice, so Ms. L. Not sure how to make Johnny Depp fit Mr. M.
ReplyDeleteAnjelica also discusses Jack N. and being beaten by Ryan O'Neal in her book.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2827707/Marry-kidding-Anjelica-Huston-heartache-affair-Jack-Nicholson-cried-three-days-Nicholson-laughed-idea-marrying-her.html
Mad Hatter?
ReplyDeleteIsn't the mouse that roared a direct reference to Disney?
ReplyDeleteI feel like this could be Ryan O'Neal- the women- could be lots.
ReplyDeleteI think that this is Marianne Faithful. I mean A list actress is stretching it, but she certainly would've been a household name. Mick Jagger is Mr. M ("shine an important light" is a nod to Scorsese's Rolling Stones doc), and the serious incident refers to the infamous Mars bar drug bust. I'm not sure who Miss C is though. Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteI get the feeling that this is from 60s, 70s, so I like the Anjelica Huston guess. She's written about the womanizing Jack did and all but not really physical abuse. It could be that he, in addition to making her feel worthless, hit her. She did talk about how Ryan hit her, though, so I'm not sure why she would keep Jack's abuse secret. I dunno. In any case, I do think this is older than Winona/Johnny or even the Brat Pack shenanigans.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Depp, Ryder and Heard?
ReplyDeleteMeg Tilly . she was huge after the Big Chill . Her husband Tim Zinnemann testified in William Hurt's trail . Sandra Jennings was trying to claim common law marriage so she could get more money. She accused William of abusing her , huge scandal. Both Megs divorce and Williams trial were in 1989.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Frances Bean Cobain? They are very close, Frances even moved in with her at one point.
ReplyDeleteThe problem I have with the Winona guess is that she seems a bit fragile. The blind makes it seem like this person is in a really good place?
ReplyDeleteAlso why would she stand up for Depp (recently)?
ReplyDeleteWinona, Johnny, and River - I was thinking about this trio this week and what a POS Johnny Depp is.
ReplyDeleteMr. M for Mr. Monster
ReplyDeleteWinona Depp disappeared - like got arrested and fell in a hole. I think she was going to break with Depp for River and Depp dosed his drink at the club.
ReplyDeleteso...does he eat his current wife? Never have heard anything like that and usually batterers keep on battering until they are forced to stop
ReplyDeleteLOL Beat his current wife...silly keyboard keys skip some at the ODDEST times :)
ReplyDeleteWynona did an interview in People magazine last year defending Depp against Heard abuse allegations....
ReplyDeleteI hope it goes well for her! ♥
ReplyDeleteMia Farrow
ReplyDeleteConsidering his step daughter- his wifes daughter from a previous relationship - is going to make her own porno (According to Enty).... you tell me what goes down in that house????
ReplyDeleteyou're probably right. i was thinking of the 1959 sellers movie. how does disney relate to this blind tho?
ReplyDeletei feel as though there would be a reference to wynona's comeback in "stranger things". all generations watched that series, so "If you’re a certain age, then you know who she is" seems like an odd descriptor to me.
ReplyDeleteKim Basinger. She was with both Alec Baldwin and Mickey Rourke who are both known for abusive behavior.
ReplyDeletemaybe Demi and Emilio ? She's A, and the Sheens are crazy. Demi has been in and out of psycho problems and is now taking "mom" roles
ReplyDeleteDiane Lane. "Miss L". All these women beaters should just die.
ReplyDeleteWinona Ryder and Johnny Depp for sure. River Phoenix died at the Viper Room which was co-owned by Depp and later on Depp's partner in the club Anthony Fox dissapeared without a trce just before he was supposed to testify against Depp in a separate case. I bet Winona has the lowdown on that situation.
ReplyDeleteTom Cruise : movie Collateral
ReplyDeleteNicole Kidman : movie The Lion
Their marriage and divorce was a notorious situation. She seems to be very timid (like a mouse) She has a new T V show with a younger actress don't know her name but they could have a good friendship and share alot ?
If this is Winona, Jesus FUCK now is the time to strike. I really, really think she'd win the court case of public opinion. It's all the toxic dickless shitheads who would send her endless death and rape threats she's probably afraid of, in addition to everything else. Not even counting the Hollywood Insiders.
ReplyDeleteI know it's a stab in the dark but how about Sally Field and Burt Reynolds?
ReplyDeleteTom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, something with Scientology, new younger feminist friend is Reese Witherspoon.
ReplyDeleteKim was never with Mickey. They barely spoke on the 9 1/2 Weeks set.
ReplyDeleteRyan Oneal is a POS as is anyone that beats a woman
ReplyDeleteThat is scary. Keep away from porn peoples its darkness unlimited
ReplyDeleteWhoever this lady is Enty, have you really helped them by revealing this?? All youve done is warn the abuser(s) that all might be revealed. Not a good idea
ReplyDeleteWould she really involve a child?
ReplyDeleteWinona is no mother figure to anyone, she is still very young. She certainly does not seem the strong woman Ms.L is here, and she would not have come forward to defend Johnny had she planned to come forward against him, because that would completely discredit her claims. If any of you have seen her interview, even though she is very private, she spoke in Johnny's defense knowing that she would come in the line of fire, considering he was at the time of the interview accused of abuse. She practically said it was not possible. It is more than any other of his friends have done to defend Johnny, fearing backlash. Also Johnny was defended by all of his serous and non, previous partners, even by Kate Moss. Now that you may want Johnny to be an abuser, that is your choice people, but then you should have the courage to admit, you couldn't care less for facts and what the directly involved people maintain. Now possibly move on from Johnny.
ReplyDelete“I can only speak from my own experience, which was wildly different than what is being said,” Ryder said about the matter. "He was never, never that way towards me. Never abusive at all towards me. I only know him as a really good, loving, caring guy who is very, very protective of the people that he loves,” she said about her four-year relationship with her “Edward Scissorhands” costar, which included an extended engagement.- Winona Ryder on Johnny Depp, 2016.
ReplyDeleteWinona Ryder and Tavi Gevinson
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