Today's Blind Items - The Gaslighter
This actress was almost at the A+ level at one point in her career. She was a young actress in an ensemble cast of one of the most popular television shows of all time. The character she played was beloved by audiences and her acting was great. She is a multiple award winner/nominee. As I already wrote, the television show our actress starred in was one of the top rated shows at that time and was also critically acclaimed. The ensemble cast was a group of talented young actors and actresses, several of whom went on to become even more famous as their careers progressed.
The sad thing is that our actress, who I'll call Ms. D, has pretty much disappeared off the face of the earth. At the height of her fame, she inexplicably decided to walk out on the show. Not only did she walk out on the show, but she also forfeited what would have been an incredible amount of money in the process. Of course, there were diversionary tactics used to explain her departure from the show--the usual stuff about how she was difficult and demanding, and also that she was just downright crazy. None of this was true. What actually took place is that something very bad had happened to this actress at the hands of another cast member on the show. We'll call him Mr . A. Mr. A was almost as popular as Ms D. was at that time , but beneath his wholesome exterior he was hiding a very dark side. To be blunt, this dude was a sociopath. Anyway, the real reason Ms. D walked out was not only because of what she experienced, but also because others involved with the show chose to look the other way. In fact, the higher-ups around the show made it clear to cast members that the situation was to be hushed up so that there would be no bad publicity. Mr. A also gaslighted Ms. D., big time, in order to keep her quiet. He had everyone on the show conned. It was so bad that our actress began to suffer from serious health problems from the stress and those close to her were afraid she would end up hospitalized. So... she bolted from the show for her own health and sanity and pretty much faded into obscurity.
After her departure, the show continued on, as did the careers of Mr. A and the other cast members who had turned a blind eye to what happened. A few years passed and Mr. A became even more famous and wealthy thanks to his role on the show. His increased fame placed him in more elite social circles where he crossed paths with another actress. This actress, who I'll call Ms. T, is what I'd consider permanent A list. At the time she encountered Mr. A., she was not really acting very much, but still maintained her A-list status for other reasons. Anyway, Mr. A. crossed paths with Ms. T because of mutual friends and also because of a business matter they had in common. Unlike Ms. D, Ms. T had been around the block a few times and recognized the red flags with Mr. A's personality pretty quickly. She is no shrinking violet and was not about to put up with any crap from this guy. Ms. T saw the warning signs after our actor attempted to make a business situation as miserable as possible for her. She told him in no uncertain terms that he better back off-- and as is the case with these personality types, when Mr. A realized was onto him, he made sure to stay out of her way.
Although Ms. T's heydey as an actress was pretty much over at that point, our actress was (and is) very well liked in the industry. She has lots of loyal and powerful friends. And Ms. T made sure that ALL of them heard about her miserable experience with Mr A. Since our actress has never been known to say an unkind word about anyone, that made her story that much more credible. Her powerful friends that heard the story were even more disturbed by it because at the time she crossed paths with Mr. A, she was going through a very vulnerable time in her life. Mr. A honed in on that and attempted to exploit her. Luckily our actress saw through that and was able to avoid harm. Ms. T's friends were so disgusted by this story that they spread it around like the plague and before long, almost everyone in the business had heard it (and believed it).
Mr. A continued to work on this very famous show, but once the show ended, he suddenly found himself struggling to get more work. No one would give him the time of day. This is surprising given that a number of the actors from this show went on to further successes after the show was over- but he didn't. It was clear that people in the business were aware of our actor's issues and were avoiding hiring him. What is even better is that that none of those old castmates were willing to help Mr. A find new work either. They all felt guilty about the situation with Ms. D- and no longer wanted to be tainted by any association with him, especially since Ms. T's story was widely known at that point.
What makes this all so interesting is that Ms. D and Ms. T recently met one another for the first time. They were introduced by a mutual friend who was aware of both of their stories. Since Ms D was really not in contact with many people in the business anymore, she was had not heard Ms. T's story when it was circulating around. The two women have since become very close friends and consider themselves part of each other's families. This is a very unlikely friendship but they have totally bonded over their mutual loathing of Mr. A. What is even more intriguing is that Ms T is urging Ms D to write a book about what happened to her. Ms. T has even offered to pony up the cash for Ms. A to hire lawyers in case there are legal problems with the book. It will be interesting to see if the tell-all gets written. If so, I would imagine there will be quite a few in the Industry who will be very nervous about the prospect of being called out for not intervening in Ms. D's situation with Mr. A.
I don't know who this is but just how many women and kids have been severely traumatized and used by the Hollyweird machine? And it goes on till this day.
ReplyDeleteThe Cosby show? Or little house on the prairie, Michael Landon.
ReplyDeleteomg great blind! no idea..will have to put my thinking cap on!
ReplyDeleteI thought of Shelley Long when I read this, but she's worked steadily if low profile.
ReplyDeleteNo one left Friends to the best of my knowledge, although I'd like this to be Schwimmer.
Ted Shackleford\Joan Van Ark and somebody really famous?
ReplyDeleteHmm... how about
ReplyDeleteKellie Martin (Ms. D) / ER / Noah Wylie (Mr. A)....... Clooney, Marguiles went in on to great things.
Wylie was at one point a producer, so he would get residuals from all the re-runs.
I'm trying to get a handle on Mrs. T - but that could be anyone.....
i want this to be kelsey grammer on cheers, going on to frasier, but am not sure it works. 2 of the actresses famously quit. bebe neuwirth left to do broadway but continued to work with grammer on the occasional frasier. shelley long left the show but continued to work in movies and tv.
ReplyDeleteMy original thought is Patrick Duffy and Victoria Principal or Charlene Tipton but Duffy seems to work a lot.
ReplyDeleteWhat about someone from Melrose Place? 90210? Large casts, this type of show makes it easy to get rid of someone.
ReplyDeleteI can't make it fit Loretta Swit, either.
ReplyDeleteOne of the most popular tv shows of all time narrows it down.
ReplyDeleteMost popular ensemble shows of all time, this is what I got
MASH
Cheers
FRIENDS
what do you guys have, all-time wise?
Shelly Long... cheers?
ReplyDeleteThe problem I always find with these BI's is that Enty loves to use the phrase "back in the day", which is a totally subjective time reference. How about you give us a time period i.e. 90's or 80"s, etc??!!.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Amy Locane from season 1 of Melrose Place? Don't know who the guy would be...
ReplyDeleteProbably Sherri Stringfield, also from ER?
ReplyDeleteI thought about her, but I can't find anything from when she was "young" Kellie was on Life Goes On as a young teen. Fits more?
ReplyDeletelost - matthew fox?
ReplyDeleteGood point. I definitely think she's Ms. D, but I'm trying to think who Mrs. T is. Alex Kingston, maybe?
ReplyDeleteI want to say Sherri Springfield and ER. But who would be Mr. A? All the male actors have worked continuously.
ReplyDeletescrubs - zach braff?
ReplyDeletela law - susan dey left and disappeared, but don't know which actor it would be.
ReplyDeleteSherri Stringfield played Blake Thorpe on Guiding Light for many years. She rocked that role, then one day she was gone and I saw her on that new show NYPD Blue, until that got cancelled, then she went on to ER.
ReplyDeleteI completely believe this to be Noah Wylie - saw him on Greenlight Project many, many years ago, after he had been on ER. He was such an asshole (and that is actually too nice of a word for how he was treating others) to the up and coming screenwriters and actors. So much so, that my husband pointed out what a dick he was being (and my husband is such a nice guy, will never say anything bad about anyone).
ReplyDeleteDoesn't mention they worked on the same show.
ReplyDeleteWould Sarah Michelle Gellar be considered permanent A list? Looks like their friends........
Then that fits with Sarah Michelle Gellar --- she was in the Greenlight Project as well..
ReplyDeleteBut who would be the actress?
ReplyDeleteCynthia Sykes-St. Elswhere?
ReplyDeleteSusan Dey-LA Law?
I think the Kelly Martin,Noah Wylie guess works so far, she is still only 41, only in her twenties when she left, Noah should have had a more successful career after the show. She quit at the shows peak.
ReplyDeleteSusan Dey starred in the series "Love & War" post-"L.A. Law," and she also did an "L.A. Law" reunion movie, so I don't think it's her.
ReplyDeleteThe blind states "A+ multiple award winner/nominee" that suddenly disappeared... That fits pretty much no one.
ReplyDeleteBut the show sounds like Lost or ER.
It fits her on several key points except she returned for a few seasons and if the blind is correct, Mr. A would still have been there.
ReplyDeletetrying to think of an actor who went on to run with elites, where he met ms. t. who is permanent a list but past her prime at the time of this blind, and with whom he had a business matter in common...a real estate transaction? movie investment?
ReplyDeleteEric LaSalle is another actor from ER that has disappeared. I hope this isn't him. He was great on that show
ReplyDeleteThe thing with ER is that those actors still all work, even if tv shows and cable movies, like Noah, Eric, Sherry, Kelly.
ReplyDeleteThe show that came to mind reading this was Northern Exposure, the young blond waitress, that married the old restaurant owner, pretty much left the industry.
For a time anyway.
ReplyDeleteOh Northern Exposure is a great guess. Rob Morrow hasn't done much has he? I saw him in the People vs OJ Simpson and barely recognized him
ReplyDeleteI think hard to get a match on anyone. Kellie Martin fits best cause she's a multiple award winner but according to IMDB she's still had work since then.
ReplyDeleteRob Morrow has worked steadily. He was on a show called "Numb3rs" for 5 years, and has done shorter stints on numerous other series.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Sherry Stringfield.
ReplyDeletematthew perry had a long dry spell after friends - reportedly because of his addictions. but who would the actress be?
ReplyDeleteThe closest I can make Melrose Place work would be:
ReplyDelete- Amy Locane (left after one season, has had almost no career since -- but that's probably more because she wasn't that talented, rather than her being a frequent award nominee that just upped and left)
- Heather Locklear (permanent A-lister)
- Thomas Calabro (the actor that has not done anything of note since Melrose)
I just don't think Melrose Place fits as "one of the best, critically acclaimed" shows, and Locane doesn't really fit as an actress that was perched on bigger success if not for her quitting the show.
Sherry Stringfield was my first thought but she has worked a lot since then. There's also people from St. Elsewhere who left suddenly and other cast members who became very successful, but I wouldn't say that show was one of the top-rated of all time.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking this is Jorja Fox from CSI and George Eads. She hasn't acted since then.
ReplyDeleteNot sure about Mrs T - maybe someone involved in his restaurant CineScape out in LA?
Yea but she has worked..
ReplyDeleteTl;dr
ReplyDeleteKellie Martin has pictures of her with Noah Wyle on her official twitter with the caption "awww" and leaving the show was not her choice. Additionally, she wasn't labeled as difficult or crazy upon her departure, so I'm not sure that guess really fits.
ReplyDeleteWild guess, but could Mrs. T be Sandy Bullock? I thought of her because of the part about being universally adored in Hollywood.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the show Family. The actress who played the young daughter won an Emmy and kind of disappeared not long after that.
ReplyDeleteFirst thought was Erin Moriarty of Happy Days. She had talked about some issues with the lack of support she had on the show, but never really seemed to go into too much detail.
ReplyDeletePerry has had several TV shows, but they all bombed. Films, too.
ReplyDeleteCosby, Lisa Bonet?
ReplyDeleteGrey's Anatomy
ReplyDeletePatrick Dempsey - Mr. A (has struggled to find work after leaving Grey's)
Jennifer Garner - Ms. T (rumored to date Dempsey after split from Ben Affleck..."vulnerable time in her life")
????? - Ms. D
Who left Grey's at the peak of their career and hasn't worked much since?
Katherine Heigl kind of fits for Ms. D...except for the fading into obscurity part. Her popularity has dropped since she left Grey's and she was rumored to be difficult to work with.
ReplyDeleteKristy McNichol starred in Empty Nest for several years, she retired from acting due to her bipolar disorder. She occasionally makes appearances for animal rights and gay rights.
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Never Campbell. Party of Five.
ReplyDeleteHeigl also fits for the multiple award winner/nominee piece
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me of the A**hole character Wylie played in White Oleander.
ReplyDeleteI meant Neve.
ReplyDeleteWould Enty be that nice to her?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking kristy mcnichol and David leisure from empty nest? But I'm also not sure because who is still left to be upset about an autobiography. My first thought though was E.R. Because of the large cast and it was a huge network hit and I'm sure NBC kept a lot under wraps.
ReplyDelete90210 Mrs D - Donna (Shannon Doherty) who was always labelled as the trouble making diva....although she did Charmed after??
ReplyDeleteI get the feeling this a drama, not a comedy........so maybe LA Law/ Little House on the.../ ER??
mischa barton on the oc?
ReplyDeletedelta burke on designing women?
ReplyDeleteHeigl, Dempsey and Jen Garner is the best guess I've seen. But probably wrong as Katherine Heigl hasn't quite faded into the obscurity that Ms. D did above
ReplyDeleteAny way Ms. D could be Mischa Barton?
Lisa Nicole Carson-Noah Wylie-Bo Derek. Wylie bought Derek's ranch after her husband,John, died.
ReplyDeleteOh vey. Lots of guesses. I think this is Bill Cosby and Lisa Bonet. Lots of shows mentioned here that we're popular, but not of all time.
ReplyDeleteRemember a lot of hyperbole in these blinds. Disappeared could really mean she just hasn't worked a lot or been in any hits. She could still be a SAG member and acts sometimes.
ReplyDeletecould ms. t be jane fonda? permanent a list - she's acting again but this may have occurred when she was wasn't due to her marriage to ted turner. she was considered then past her heyday. and this made her part of elite society outside of hollywood. another idea for ms. t is suzanne somers. this one is hard to figure out! almost as hard as health care!
ReplyDeleteit doesn't say there was romance between mr. a and ms. t, just a business deal.
ReplyDeleteI like the Noah Wyle/Bo Derek guess. Just not sure if Carson fits, was she ever close to "A" list? and she did Ally McBeal after ER.
ReplyDeleteKellie works regularly and always has. She did the series Christy and then lots of TV movies. She never walked away
ReplyDeleteMelissa Sue Anderson left the show then was just gone. She was Mary on Little House on the Prairie.
ReplyDeleteEric LaSalle is in the new movie Logan in addition to his all time classic scene stealing role in Coming To America.
ReplyDeletethe Bo D thing fits. Ms T = "Ten", (!!!!!) BD's most famous movie. also, i read BD's autobiography a while back and if i remember correctly, she alluded to someone super douchey who bought her ranch but i do not remember if she mentioned names, she probably didnt for legal reasons. i need to get my hands on it again and see if my memory is correct
ReplyDeletearticle about lisa nicole carson
ReplyDeletehttp://www.essence.com/2015/06/09/woman-interrupted-lisa-nicole-carson-opens-about-her-struggle-bipolar-disorder
Nice story. Finally, a 'victim' kicks back in the face o a 'sociopath'. About time.
ReplyDeleteEh no one on the Cosby show went on to bigger fame.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly what I thought ...
ReplyDeletei had no idea she had been blackballed. sad!!!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l35UyVMIFwY
Never Camphel is great guess. agile is Mathew Fox
ReplyDeleteI meant A-Hole.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/Noah-Wyle-buys-Santa-Ynez-ranch-Actress-Bo-2465311.php
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Nope. Kellie is not out of the business like Ms. D. She's working all the time on cable stuff,
ReplyDeleteThe wording on Sherry Stringfield's wiki perfectly fits with Enty's remark that the person forfeited a large amount of money:
ReplyDelete>>Stringfield quit just as television executive Dick Robertson was closing a deal that guaranteed the ER cast millions in future earnings from sales to cable and syndication, meaning she effectively "walked away from a fortune." <<
Sherrie Stringfield was my guess. She was soooo popular and won awards and then poof...said she left cause she did not want to be famous and Anthony Edwards
ReplyDeleteStringfield was nominated 3 times for SAG awards and won twice, two Golden Globe noms, 3 Emmy noms all in a short time
ReplyDeleteMy first though cheers......
ReplyDeleteTed danson - a-hole
Shelley long, good girl
Kirstie alley
Sherrie was the first person I thought of as well! I was pretty young when ER was on and my Mom would always bring up the fact that she (so she says) left a hit show for a boyfriend and what a huge mistake it was. Jewish mothers ftw, forever! I found an old article about her departure and it does seem like she's the answer:
ReplyDeletehttp://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0049KI
The first thing I thought of was: Friends. Lisa Kudrow, David Schwimmer for the creep. There must be a reason why he is dead in te water... (?) But I really haven't a clue. Just think it is more recent that Dallas, and bigger than a soap opera, more like prime time viewing.
ReplyDeletenever mind - I am reading more posts, above and it's no doubt other people. Cudro did go on to make a couple of successful movies after...
ReplyDeletereading more on NW... had no idea what a db he was. this is a gem
ReplyDeletehttp://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/noah-wyle-wife-sara-wells-welcome-baby-girl-frances-harper-2015256
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"Wyle, though often quiet about his personal life, opened up about fatherhood and his Father's Day expectations back in 2013. 'I don't want to put any pressure on my kids to feel like they have to do anything for me,' he said on Missouri's Fox local TV station KOLR-10. He joked: 'I don't want to put that kind of emotional baggage on them but at the same time I am harboring this secret fantasy that they will do something to show what an amazing father I am.'
so did he have to sell the BD ranch or did he keep it after his first divorce?
oh, this is a great guess. Who would Mrs. T be?
ReplyDeleteSherry Stringfield apparently left in violation of her contract , and she was forced not to work for several years because of it.They planned a major storyline with Anthony Edwards. This was after she returned to the show.She was clearly popular with audiences ,as her return drew a large audience. The Bo Derek connection is facinating,
ReplyDeleteNoah Wyle has worked steadily since ER, though.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but he has. He's doing MacGyver right now, in fact.
ReplyDeleteStringfield hasn't worked a lot and her departure was sketchy, but she came back to ER after she left. Also, only 2 actors from ER really vaulted: Clooney and Marguilles. Edwards, Wylie...they've had work, but not great work. And there are a lot of actresses from ER that haven't done much. But nobody is barren of work; and it really wasn't a great springboard show.
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering now if maybe more than one actress on ER had problems with a cast member.Several women could fit,but the man seems to lead to Noah Wylie.., .
ReplyDeleteAnd forget about a Tell-All. Before that happens, she'll be paid a fortune not to write it. It always works that way.
ReplyDeleteI think the big problem was when she left the second time, that's when she couldn't work. Both times were sketchy , though..
ReplyDeleteWasn't there a blind a couple years ago about Enty running into Lisa Nicole Carson?? I believe he said she was working in a restaurant, and barely recognizable. If I recall, in the blind he said something about her telling him she left the business due to mental problems. Need one of the super sleuths who can go back and find the blind item. Not sure if it was officially revealed or if someone figured it out in the comments.
ReplyDeleteWhen reading the blind, my original thought was the show Thirtysomething. It was a young, talented cast and was very successful & popular at the time. I was a little kid Back then, so I'd have to spend more time than I have right now looking at timelines for the cast. Several of the stars had good careers afterwards both in front and behind the camera.
ReplyDeleteSeinfeld!
ReplyDeleteI think the show was Glee and Ms D was Dianna Agron. No idea who Mr A and Ms T are though.
ReplyDelete"Web Therapy" is good (although she does play a modernised Phoebe).
ReplyDeleteIt can't be Lisa Bonet because she left TCS to fo Different World and then movies. (Angelheart).
ReplyDeleteI did initially think Kelsey Grammer or Bill Cosby for the guy, but they don't seem to fit perfectly.
Not Shelley Long, not Loretta Swit. Justine Bateman stayed with Family Ties until the end, so not her either.
Hmmm...
I think that this could possibly be someone on Ally McBeal. I can't remember now what her "best friend" character 's name was (Nicole?) who's role was suddenly reduced and then she left because of "mental health issues" which seemed odd at the time. IMDB sleuths have at it! But it's what immediately popped into my head as I was reading this :-)
ReplyDeleteNoah Wyle doesn't seem to fit as he has worked steadily since leaving ER, including many seasons on the Spielberg-produced "Falling Skies" as well as "The Librarians."
ReplyDeleteAnd Noah Wyle was cast in a pilot. Sherry Stringfield returned to the show in its 8th season when Wyle was still there. She left abruptly in the season after Wyle left.
ReplyDeleteI just can't see Wyle getting this work (Falling Skies and The Librarians) if he was that awful. Nor would I believe Sherry Stringfield would come back to ER to work with him again.
Neve dated John Cusack who was the biggest jerk to her!
ReplyDeleteMischa is a drugged out mess and her mother is a psycho. Her issues weren't caused by anyone on The OC.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Jessica Beil and Stephen Collins: Seventh Heaven?
ReplyDeleteStill feeling Party of Five: Jennifer Love Hewitt wasn't in all the episodes.
JLH/ Mathew Fox/ SMG?
David Caruso, Emily Proctor, Lucy Lawless
ReplyDeleteCSI Miami?
Jennifer Love Hewitt has worked very steadily since Part of Five though. I really hope this is revealed soon, it's driving me nuts lol.
ReplyDeleteStringfield left ER in 1996 and then returned in 2001...that doesn't feel like it fits for the person in this blind.
ReplyDeletei think the wyle/stringfield/derek theory works perfectly. it says mr. a couldn't get a break after the end of his show/that no one wanted to work with him, but that could be hollywood hyperbole for "couldn't-get-the-type-of-roles-he-wanted" (movies), like clooney. his imdb record following the end of er is pretty mundane. going from a long-running-prime-time-show-lead to bit parts is the hollywood definition of "fading into obscurity", isn't it?
ReplyDeleteYou're right, most of his work I never heard of. I don't think it says he doesn't work at all, doesn't say that about the woman either.
ReplyDeleteAgron has her ex swift as major industry power friend, plus she married money.
ReplyDeleteWHAT are you babbling about? When did Lisa Kudrow quite Friends, get a bad rep, retire from acting...and David Schwimmer works ALL the time
ReplyDeleteBut he was the lead on Falling Skies and it was in a few seasons hardly a bit part
ReplyDeletehttp://www.celebitchy.com/115476/noah_wyle_dumps_second_mistress_gina_gershon/
ReplyDeleteSherri Springfield
ReplyDeleteAnthony Edwards didn't want to do love arc
Alex Kingston
Er
Lisa Bonet in A Different World? Multiple nominee/winner. Abruptly left the show. Marisa Tomei and Sinbad went on to be more famous afterward.
ReplyDeletehey sandy, have you seen this yet? makes me wonder if this blind isn't related to dawson's creek
ReplyDeletei just saw this interview with James Vanderbeek which was on UK Tv. Weird stuff, wonder if it's related to this bline
http://toofab.com/2017/03/30/james-van-der-beek-is-dissed-over-post-dawsons-creek-career-during-bizarre-live-interview-video/
NYPD Blue
ReplyDeleteMr A - Dennis Franz (Det. Andy Sipowicz) has stayed out of the acting spotlight since 2005
Ms D - Kim Delaney (Det. Diane Russell) or Gail O'Grady (Donna Abandando)
Ms T - ?
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ReplyDeleteYou mean Erin Moran. Erin moroarith is a correspondent on news shows
ReplyDeleteYes, i believe she was a hostess at a restaurant chain( one in hollywood, one at century city mall) that he recognized her from. I thought she was fired from the show for drug use?
ReplyDeleteWho would be the guy from ally mcbeal?
So this was Noah Wylie and Sherry Stringfield?!? It never made sense that she first left ER to spend time with her bf or husband!! She was a young actress just making her mark. That the ER higher ups chose to tolerate this was bullshit.
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