Old Hollywood through today is littered with rumors and stories about the gay mafia. Back in the day, when coming out was a complete end to your movie or television career, it was a form of protection for those in the industry were gay. That protection aspect is what led to the moniker of mafia. Unlike the mafia there was nothing illegal or untoward about it, it really was protection. It was a situation of you are our friend and we love you so lets keep you working and make the world think you are heterosexual. We will keep the press from reporting anything about you that would hurt you and will make sure the studios keep you steadily working.
At some point in the history of Hollywood it started to become more sinister. The self-appointed leader of it started acting more like a Don (FC) rather than a friend. If you wanted protection and to work you had to bow down to him and kiss the ring so to speak. If he wanted you to do a project, you had to do it. If you crossed this Don in anyway, he would do his best to make sure you never worked. He had/has that kind of power. His power is slipping though.
Back in the day there was an alternative to the Don. A different power broker (SE) who had just as much money, but believed in the old school way of helpful protection rather than trying to make a buck off the protection. His specialty was finding people just starting out. He wanted to instill in them the old values he had grown up with in a homophobic industry. He wanted all of them to help each other.
Hollywood is all about relationships, maybe more so than any other town/industry. I could list a bunch of them, but I will give you an example of one. Look at someone like Judd Apatow. he had a mentor in Garry Shandling. When Judd first came to Hollywood he found other writers and actors that he enjoyed working with who were of a similar age and style. As he moved from one project to the next in those early years, he would find one or two new people to bring along for the next project which was already staffed with other people in his network he met along the way. At some point in time, the group was established and there was less room for new people. But, as people under him became more successful, they started their own projects and would bring some new people and others from the old group. The Judd Apatow tree with lots of branches.
So, going back to our two gay mafia leaders. They were the base of the tree. The kind one groomed this person (KU) to be his successor. KU has become wildly successful and he has his projects everywhere. He is a mogul, much like his benefactor. In front of the camera and behind the camera. The same as his benefactor. Side projects outside the industry and projects that will keep bringing in money no matter what. He is a master of the helpful protection game. He is trying to do the same things he was taught that he thinks will help another generation of performers.
Fighting him every step of the way is The Don and his chosen replacement (MX). They believe that help should be given only when something is there for them in return. They also believe in the casting couch. If you want to get in a project or get ahead, you are going to have to sleep your way to the top. If you stop doing what they say or stop having sex with them, they will cast you aside. They will make it impossible to find work in the town and if you try to cross them in any way, they will bring you down, often with violence.
Why would anyone subject themselves to that? Because it is the quicker route to fame. The other way requires years of working and moving up the ladder. You have to do the work. The helpful mentors steer you in the right direction or find you projects, but you have to prove yourself.
Caught in the middle of these factions is someone (TW) who got his start in the sex for play group. He was their boy toy for a long time and he got work. Big work. Then, all of a sudden, he was gone off the radar. He went from a franchise to starring in his own movies as the lead. Then, nothing. He started to rebel and he was done. He had made enough of a name for himself that he can work a little, but no big projects.
Enter the savior. At a party about 18 months ago, KU ran into TW and they started talking. A lot. The party turned into an all night session and lots of days and nights over the next few weeks. A bond was formed. KU has enough projects and clout on his side of the aisle so to speak to keep TW working. He also sees someone in TW like himself. A different kind of self who is more interested in being in front of the camera than behind, but also someone who wants to do more than just act. KU believes that TW can be the next KU and also fall in the footsteps of SE which, even though SE is dead still has a lasting impact in Hollywood. SE's estate makes more money than most A list actors working today.
SE Merv Griffin
ReplyDeleteKU -Seacrest
ReplyDeleteWalt Disney and David Geffen as the bad guys? TW -Keanu Reeves-did franchises-works a little now...
ReplyDeleteTW- Taylor Lautner who was the notorious sex for play with Bryan Singer and several others.
ReplyDeleteLeo as MX.
ReplyDeleteDon is def David Geffen (FC Friend of Cher they are besties)
ReplyDeleteKU=Keeping Up
ReplyDeleteTW=TWilight
Now how is SE prevalent to Merv?
MX could be Travolta.
ReplyDeleteStill working on MX, possibles: Ryan Murphy, Andy Cohen, Tyler Perry,?
ReplyDeleteMX=Byran Singer (MX=Men-X or X-men in reverse)
ReplyDeleteCase closed LOL
SE= Dick Clark
ReplyDeleteKU= Ryan Seacrest
Totally OT - I do not have an hour to watch Lemonade. Is there a TL;DR version?
ReplyDeleteDavid Geffen FC
ReplyDeleteBryan Singer MX
So Bryan Singer could be MX (X Men initials backwards)
ReplyDeleteIf KU is Secrest the KU must stand for Kartrashians unlimited (as in all the space they take up on his channel)
ReplyDeleteIf the Don is David Geffen then MX is Keanu Reeves (Matrix); people years ago said those two were married.
ReplyDeletetrivia:he was good friends w/ Joni Mitchell too.
ReplyDeleteJoni wrote "Free Man In Paris" about Geffen after going there w/him.
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ReplyDeleteSorry-I tried to copy and paste a bunch of Bees lol
ReplyDeleteMerv = Singer/Entertainer?
ReplyDelete+1 --nice job @ MM w/ merv griffin & Ryan Seacest & Bryan Singer.
ReplyDeleteThe TW makes sense for Taylor & Twilight, i just don't see why/how or any hints of Ryan grooming Taylor to follow in his footsteps.
Taylor DID just sign up for Cuckoo on netflix but I'm missing his connection to Ryan.
Of Course, this is an Enty Blind soooo, it doesn't have to be accurate.
Merv = Singer/Entertainer? Best I can come up with.
ReplyDeleteOops, I answered again because my first answer wasn't showing up and now it is. Oh well.
ReplyDeleteOr Closed Case. lol
ReplyDeleteAnd Bravo on deciphering this blind!
Keanu is the kindest man ever, not him
ReplyDeleteI have an hard time figuring Taylor Lautner as someone that could follow Ryan Seacrest steps, but may be i am wrong?
ReplyDeleteFor the Don, i think that both Bryan Singer and Ryan Murphy might be the answers especially cause Murphy really employs a lot of gay actors, but i remember a blind just a little while ago that suggested that Bryan Singer may use violence, if necessary, so, most likely him
l always thought dick Clark was seacrests mentor. I'm having trouble believing enty saying something nice about seacrest though.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Kellen Lutz instead of Lautner for TW? He's starting to do some hosting work and seems like a likable enough lunk, and hasn't done too much heavy bearding.
ReplyDeleteTrue. I never hear that song without thinking of David Geffen.
ReplyDeleteCar on a Hill is about James Taylor.
The Last Time I Saw Richard is about Leonard Cohen.
People's Parties is about Warren Beatty.
There must be some about Graham Nash, that relationship lasted quite a while and did not end well.
One of my favorite things about Joni Mitchell is that when Swifty (who tries to emulate Joni and fails miserably) wanted to produce and star in a movie about Joni's life Joni turned her down flat. It's small mercy for which I will be eternally grateful.
I wonder how her recovery is going? Enty - give us an update on Joni Mitchell, please.
KU is Adam Sandler?
ReplyDeleteHe's throwing Taylor in his movies
No, Merv was definitely Seacrest's mentor. There have been blinds about their private life here before and their professional history together is public knowledge. Here's a photo of them together when Seacrest was a young man.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/04/02/Style/Images/RyanSeacrest_01.jpg
Seacrest will rot in hell for the Kartrashians but that doesn't make him a sexual predator. I've only ever heard of him hiring pros, paying them well and treating them decently, although he's supposedly very cold and controlling. Funny, his beards say the same things about him.
OMG...YES!!! Kellan Lutz was in Twilight too..(i always forget that)..
ReplyDelete(i also mix him up w/Taylor Kinney and one other actor)
Nice @ Aeol!!
This is a complicated one but I'm old enough to actually know some of them, for a change.
ReplyDeleteSE is definitely Merv Griffin, KU is definitely Ryan Seacrest, as several of you already guessed.
The Don is definitely David Geffen, as several of you already guessed (although I briefly considered Mr. Diane von Furstenberg).
The Don's successor is less clear to me. It's not Sandy Gallin or Joel Schumacher, they're both Geffen's generation and Gallin's a satellite of his. It's probably Bryan Singer, as several of you already guessed.
KW - no idea, most younger actors run together in a blur and I rarely see their work. Whoever it is, he's lucky to have found Seacrest.
The gay mafia dos more harm than good in my opinion. Rather than giving these actors work despite their coming out, they reinforced the idea that you had to live straight to have success.... Not to mention manipulating a vulnerable population with the casting couch.
ReplyDelete* does
ReplyDeleteNot good at typing ;(
and so, +1 to @ Aeol's guess of:
ReplyDeleteTW=Twilight= Kellan Lutz (he just hosted Bullseye)
Syndication Empire?
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this blind Enty. Now you are talking about real power. West LA/ Hollywood, etc. may be 95 percent gay, but the movie going audience is 98 percent straight. That's why there are no great STRAIGHT men stars anymore, like Warren Beatty, Robert Redford, Jack Nicholson. It's a real problem. Plus straight women are totally excluded by the gay mafia. It was better for women 40 years ago in Hollywood than it is now.
ReplyDeleteAnd older actress are practically nonexistent.
DeleteThat could work too.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the gay mafia understands in any way, shape or form why "I am Cait" is such a huge bomb? If 2-10 percent MAX of the total population is gay, then even a fraction of the 2 percent is trans. Yet, the gay mafia makes sure that show is renewed, despite it's rock bottom ratings.
ReplyDeleteWhat did Sandy Gallin ever do for any clients? As far as I'm concerned he did nothing for Dolly Parton's career, nothing for Margaret Cho. If he weren't Geffen's pal, I can't imagine he would be considered successful.
David Geffen, Merv Griffin, Seacrest, Lautner/Lutz. Why do I feel like BCoop is in here somewhere too?
ReplyDelete"Research material," lol.
ReplyDeletehttp://loudwire.com/angry-kurt-cobain-letter-to-david-geffen-auctioned/
http://www.queerty.com/merv-griffins-sexual-relations-with-rock-hudson-marlon-brando-and-all-of-tinseltown-20090506
There is also a Hollywood lesbian Mafia and they protected and helped kristen stewart through the start of her career, Taylor launter is TW :)
ReplyDeleteSounds gay.
ReplyDeleteWell I guess we know how Evan Peters and tye Sheridan got their xman parts.
ReplyDeleteGeffen is a disgusting creep and an obvious young males abuser, he fit the description of the asshole don for sure.
ReplyDeleteSinger send the same vibes as him, pedo and repulsive.
these people need some boomerang karma to destroy them, gays in that industry need to grow a pair and stand for the right people really doing stuff for them instead of taking the fast path and play with the most obvious psychopaths ever...
David geffin is known for shipping in young boys from Europe and drugging and rapping them and sending them back
DeleteOn AGC
ReplyDeleteFC: David Geffen (Friend of Cher)
MX: Byran Singer ("X-Men")
SE: Merv Griffin (Singer-Entertainer)
KU: Ryan Seacrest ("Keeping Up With the Kardashians")
TW: Taylor Lautner ("TWilight")
i think they got it right, with MAYBE the exception of Lautner, that may be Lutz, instead
or actually, @Montana Marriott pretty much got it...AGC posts most of it's info from here.
ReplyDeleteYeah, you're right, but since Montana posted the answers in different comments i didn't see that he basically got all the answers.
ReplyDeleteBtw, i have often seen that ACG does have quite different answers than those here at CDAN.
TW= Teen Wolf?
ReplyDeleteI still think it's Lautner.
Shows about alternative lifestyles can find success with a sympathetic audience. I'm a wide-open liberal who supports the trans community, even if I don't personally know anyone who is trans and still trying to understand the dynamics of being trans. My toddler daughter the other day jumped on our bed and yelled "I am a boy!" (She has also claimed to be a queen, a mommy, a daddy, a bear, etc) and I joked with my husband "okay, she's trans!" He said "oh you would just love that, wouldn't you?" And I replied, "no. I would be devastated, confused, scared, and we would probably all need decades of therapy. But I would still be capable of loving my child no matter what."
ReplyDeleteAnyway, the point is "I Am Cait" is a failure because even her sympathetic audience finds her to be a hateful, insufferable do**hecu*t, not because she's trans.
I'm going to throw out Tyler Posey as TW. Star and now producing Teen Wolf. Is co- hosting a new show with Seacrest and explicitly stated in an article I found, "I want to be the next Ryan Seacrest"
ReplyDeletewell, that DEFINATELY works ..okay, you won my vote!(now i just gotta look up who this Tyler guy is..lol)
ReplyDeleteyeah, me too..like Clint Eastwood for the guy in the Limo picking up a hooker on the way to the airport! I was like "whaaaaa??" lol. (many thought it was Ben Affleck).
ReplyDeleteThat's why I wrote 'most' but AGC is amusing when it literally quotes whole lines that we've typed on here as our proof of the accuracy of a guess..
omg, it's the cutie from "Maid In Manhattan"- that's awesome..He IS married though(not that THAT means anything buuuut...;
ReplyDeleteI just read that ironically he lost the part of Jacob in 'Twilight' to none other than one Taylor Lautner...coincidence???sounds like these bigwigs pull from the same auditioning pool !
Tyler Posey is not married, just ended a 10 year long engagement to his childhood sweetheart, which just sounds to me like the childhood sweetheart doesn't want to beard anymore.
ReplyDeleteHow about:
ReplyDeleteFC = The bad Don David Geffin
SE - Merv Griffin
KU = Ryan Seacrest (Keeping Up)
MX = Keanu Reeves (Matrix)
TW = Taylor (Twilight)
When will someone actually out Ryan?
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