This B list reality star who is not really a star any longer but continues to exist in the shadows of that A list family of his is undergoing ECT. I didn't even know they still did that, but they do and he is undergoing the procedure.
Primarily prescribed for depression, it's pretty mainstream therapy because it's effective and has few side effects. If there is an addictive personality involved, why prescribe something that won't mix well with other things?
My mother, who is bipolar had it done decades ago, and it was only as a last resort as she was suicidal and not getting better with meds. She has memory loss from it.
She said it is done differently now (they don'T shock an entire hemisphere at a time), but still typically as a last resort/when medicines aren't working.
My ex-husband had 15 ECT treatments ~ 7 years ago for treatment-refractory major depression. It's quite common. Unfortunately, many people have the same reaction as Enty, which is why it's not widely known.
Carrie Fisher swears by it, however, she has developed a slur to her speech and she is losing a lot of her memory due to ECT, which is why she is working on her third memoir.
@ Kno, did he have any negative side effects like the aforementioned memory loss? This ECT treatment has just been suggested to someone very near & dear to me & the description of it makes me really hesitant too.
I wonder how they determine(& I'm sure mb they can w/various brain scans) that the memory loss is directly caused by the ECT & not by age,dementia,alzheimer's setting in &/or exacerbated by her years of alcohol/drug abuse...
He did, but it doesn't seem to have been permanent. Treatment days are tough, though. When he'd come out, he'd be very childlike & vacant. I couldn't leave him alone for ~ 24 hours. If I remember correctly, he had them 3 times a week for 5 weeks. In fact, I think he had another round six months later or so, but I can't swear to the schedule. He'd been in a major depressive episode for ~ 10 years by that time. Standard medication carousel, inpatient hospitalization, outpatient groups, individual therapy, yada yada. If it wasn't helpful, they wouldn't still be permitted to do it, but nothing's guaranteed. Good luck, BA. Hit me up any time.
It is very different from what it used to be. They do it frequently at the Mayo Clinic. Side effects vary, but for someone with severe depression that doesn't respond to medications, it can be a good option.
Enty doesn't know they still use it. This is the dumb enty. Pretty common with Hollywood types,since drugs have more visible side effects. Enty stigmatizing mental illness again.
thanks @ Kno-this DOES help.We've been educating ourselves on the options but it REALLY helps(me)to hear 1st hand experiences..I hope things got better for you b/c this was a helluva long road for you to hoe..and I know that you've continued to take care of other family members w/their issues as well.You've had alot on your plate my dear and yet you clearly have kept your wit & incrediblly observant sense of humor on the human condition about you.Kudos to you gurl. Okaaay,back to the gossip now....
I started undergoing ECT last summer. I'm bipolar with treatment resistant depression. We tried EVERYTHING. ECT is a last resort but it's not uncommon.
I started out at 3 treatments per week and I've now progressed to one per month. I had some short term memory loss but that dissipated once the time between treatments got longer. There is no long term memory loss. (My dad was freaked that I might lose everything I learned in college and grad school.)
I'd be dead if it wasn't for ECT and the awesome docs at UCLA!!
That's very kind of you. My life philosophy: shit happens, then other shit happens, everybody has shit (except maybe Yolanda Foster), don't let shit define you.
That's great! It's pretty amazing how they do it now. Days like this I'm pretty sure this Enty never went to law school and rarely leaves his house. It's astounding how sheltered & easily scandalized 'he' is. One day, I'll figure out how many Entys there are and the demographics of each. Today is not that day. So glad you're doing better.
Seems to me Americans are over The Kardashians\Jenners and Courtney out with Scott, Khloe out with Lamar, Kim's naked selfies, and Rob plastered over the gossip sites are them trying to capture our attention. Hopefully, their era of dominating the entertainment world is about over!
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ReplyDeletelobotomy for both these idiots and nothing less!
ReplyDeletePrimarily prescribed for depression, it's pretty mainstream therapy because it's effective and has few side effects. If there is an addictive personality involved, why prescribe something that won't mix well with other things?
ReplyDeleteYeah ECT is way different now than the old creepy asylum days. I've heard it is a rather effective treatment for major depression disorder.
ReplyDeleteMy mother, who is bipolar had it done decades ago, and it was only as a last resort as she was suicidal and not getting better with meds. She has memory loss from it.
ReplyDeleteShe said it is done differently now (they don'T shock an entire hemisphere at a time), but still typically as a last resort/when medicines aren't working.
My ex-husband had 15 ECT treatments ~ 7 years ago for treatment-refractory major depression. It's quite common.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, many people have the same reaction as Enty, which is why it's not widely known.
They more fun ways to fry you brain. Trust me on this y'all.
ReplyDeleteCarrie Fisher is a big advocate of ECT.
ReplyDeleteCarrie Fisher swears by it, however, she has developed a slur to her speech and she is losing a lot of her memory due to ECT, which is why she is working on her third memoir.
ReplyDelete@ Kno, did he have any negative side effects like the aforementioned memory loss? This ECT treatment has just been suggested to someone very near & dear to me & the description of it makes me really hesitant too.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how they determine(& I'm sure mb they can w/various brain scans) that the memory loss is directly caused by the ECT & not by age,dementia,alzheimer's setting in &/or exacerbated by her years of alcohol/drug abuse...
ReplyDeleteHe did, but it doesn't seem to have been permanent. Treatment days are tough, though.
ReplyDeleteWhen he'd come out, he'd be very childlike & vacant. I couldn't leave him alone for ~ 24 hours.
If I remember correctly, he had them 3 times a week for 5 weeks. In fact, I think he had another round six months later or so, but I can't swear to the schedule.
He'd been in a major depressive episode for ~ 10 years by that time. Standard medication carousel, inpatient hospitalization, outpatient groups, individual therapy, yada yada.
If it wasn't helpful, they wouldn't still be permitted to do it, but nothing's guaranteed.
Good luck, BA. Hit me up any time.
It is very different from what it used to be. They do it frequently at the Mayo Clinic. Side effects vary, but for someone with severe depression that doesn't respond to medications, it can be a good option.
ReplyDeleteEnty doesn't know they still use it. This is the dumb enty. Pretty common with Hollywood types,since drugs have more visible side effects. Enty stigmatizing mental illness again.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Carrie noticed when she started to lose some memories and what she is able to correlate it to. She is pretty selfaware.
ReplyDeleteCheban. Also has a reality show and was/is a publicist to the K klan.
ReplyDeletethanks @ Kno-this DOES help.We've been educating ourselves on the options but it REALLY helps(me)to hear 1st hand experiences..I hope things got better for you b/c this was a helluva long road for you to hoe..and I know that you've continued to take care of other family members w/their issues as well.You've had alot on your plate my dear and yet you clearly have kept your wit & incrediblly observant sense of humor on the human condition about you.Kudos to you gurl.
ReplyDeleteOkaaay,back to the gossip now....
I started undergoing ECT last summer. I'm bipolar with treatment resistant depression. We tried EVERYTHING. ECT is a last resort but it's not uncommon.
ReplyDeleteI started out at 3 treatments per week and I've now progressed to one per month. I had some short term memory loss but that dissipated once the time between treatments got longer. There is no long term memory loss. (My dad was freaked that I might lose everything I learned in college and grad school.)
I'd be dead if it wasn't for ECT and the awesome docs at UCLA!!
The CDANers really helped me during many dark days--even the Dereks. Thanks to you all as well!
ReplyDeleteThat's very kind of you.
ReplyDeleteMy life philosophy: shit happens, then other shit happens, everybody has shit (except maybe Yolanda Foster), don't let shit define you.
That's great! It's pretty amazing how they do it now.
ReplyDeleteDays like this I'm pretty sure this Enty never went to law school and rarely leaves his house. It's astounding how sheltered & easily scandalized 'he' is.
One day, I'll figure out how many Entys there are and the demographics of each. Today is not that day.
So glad you're doing better.
Glad to hear you're doing better. Major depression is a bitch
ReplyDeletethanks.yes she certainly is-more so than most arguably. i just wondered if the ECT practice tends to downplay that side effect..
ReplyDeleteHey @HannahF, thanks for sharing/explaining that. Sooo good to hear this has helped you & all is so much better for you.. ; )
ReplyDeleteIsn't this treatment why Hemingway killed himself? After he had it he couldn't write any longer. Or was it something else?
ReplyDeleteCarrie does go into detail about her ECT in her book, "Shockoholic". I find her to always be a good read.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me Americans are over The Kardashians\Jenners and Courtney out with Scott, Khloe out with Lamar, Kim's naked selfies, and Rob plastered over the gossip sites are them trying to capture our attention. Hopefully, their era of dominating the entertainment world is about over!
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