Oh Hell to the No. I thought you wanted Happy talk?!? Side note: Ugh!!!! GUYS!!! I can't fucking believe it's October already :( Here's my relevant song of the day. I dedicate this one to @Karen <3
I just read that the patient told the hospital he just got back from Liberia and was sick. And then, of course, sent him home with antibiotics. Makes me ill thinking about it. I hope it can remain contained, but I am slowly losing faith in our country. Between the paralyzing virus, the respiratory virus, and now this, I may become one of those crazy conspiracy theorists.
Was just discussing this with coworkers. I mentioned it was the next Zombie apocalypse. Coworker proceeded to correct me and inform me that this is not what Ebola does. NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!! I quickly walked away from that conversation. I would like to go home now. Oy vey!
@Astra, you do realize that Ebola is spread through blood and body fluids right? and since our living conditions here are far superior to those in places like nigeria that it won't spread like it did there? Also because it's now in a developed country like America that drug companies will actually work to find a cure instead of ignoring it like they have been.
I honestly see no reason to get up in arms about it right now. They've isolated the person and found the people that person was in contact with. The cdc has plans in place for things like this.
...and so in the Off Topic post around a month ago ( re: whether the 2 Americans should be brought back to the states), some of us (@eros) questioned whether this was a wise choice; questioned some of us who referenced the film "Contagion".
Just saying.... one can never be sure how a virus/disease will morph And how far it will/can spread. The world should have taken immediate precautions - quarantined the area in Africa - no travel from - only to and only by health experts/ military aid.
SYF, to help those less fortunate, to try and find cures for deceases, to fight wars, etc. where would we be as a country if we didn't have those people? we wouldn't exist right now.
"spread thru bodily fluids" Doesn't mean you have to slit your wrist and bleed into someone's mouth to pass it on. Sneeze, cough, tears and the ever present SWEAT whilst being in the State of Texas--those little pesky things that everyday people come in contact with just being out in the population. The last Dr brought back didn't even work in the Ebola ward, he was there delivering babies--but he still got it and supposedly NO ONE in the ward had it. I'm calling shenanigans on how this is spread. Puts on tin foil hat and heads to the bunker.....
@lurker girl, i am with you. They won't say how the guy got ebola, not a health care worker or anything. Like our government wouldn't lie, right? they just don't want people to panic.
Jesus, thank God he's not at Parkland, or we'd all be fucked. I'm 5 hours away from Dallas, but I must admit I'm a bit spooked. We've all seen Contagion.
I'm sorry, but there aren't going to be ebola epidemics here. I'm not saying it'll never happen, but we have too extensive a health care system - regardless of hwo good you actually think our system is - for it to ever get out of hand. In Liberia and that region they barely even have latex gloves for God's sake! People, get a grip!
1. There won't be a cure. It's a virus. If we could cure viruses, we'd cure the common cold and AIDS.
2. Sweat does not contain full viral DNA and therefore can not transmit a viral infection. Full viral DNA is general contained in things such as blood, urine, feces, semen and can only be absorbed through skin break or mucous membranes.
3. A person infected with ebola is not contagious until they've begun showing symptoms.
4. Ebola is not an airborne contagion.
5. The outbreak in Africa is due to lack of centralized healthcare and primitive post-mortem rituals and traditions in which the body of the deceased who at that point is highly contagious is handled by many people and the ill are cared for at home without proper personal protective equipment.
7. Most people that contract and survive ebola infection are immune afterward.
8. Like I needed another reason to hate going to Dallas.
@JackD. I know, that's true and the right thing to do....I know. You're right. And I know things/accidents happen. But I just wonder if that's the case here. What ever reason he went, I surely wish he didn't get sick. But like the French man who was recently beheaded went to a dangerous place to go hiking. HIKING!! If all the places he could have gone, he went there. It's baffling. It also upsets me when some people act as if America Anericans are horrible yet they want to live here more than anywhere else, and don't want to help fellow Americans. So, "if" that's the case with this man ("IF") then I get a little angry. But I still wish him well - for sure. And....like I said, "I'm trying to have more compassion." I'm trying.
We all know that a virus or an asteroid is probably going to wipe out this planet sooner or later, population wise if we all don't drown when the polar ice caps melt. It is the universe's cycle of life.
They have no idea how Ebola starts or why it ends so suddenly. Hopefully it's contained here but these patients aid in finding a way to stop it and also survive. It can be cured if caught quickly enough and with the right medication they've found.
The likely answer of how that doctor contracted ebola is infected food. Am I scared of ebola? Damn skippy I am. I'm not excited about going to an airport or getting on a plane in a couple of weeks, but I also have to keep my wits about me and not get in a tizzy since we have much better healthcare here. Houston has a very large community of people from Nigeria and Liberia and there is international travel to and from there in our airports all the time. All I can do is keep my purel on hand and not wipe other people asses for them.
Seriously though the 2 or 3 people who were shipped back to the US and were treated with the experimental drug are OK but the better question is how does a small fraction of ebola patients survive without even these experimental drugs.
I also believe that that a healthy person from a Western developed world has a less compromised immune system in general than the average African living in some of these countries, many war torn, where ebola has appeared.
My ebola vaccine stock jumped six dollars a share overnight.
Keep the uninformed hysteria coming, I need to renovate my bathroom. Overall I'm up fifteen a share. But stooopid hysteria should put me in the 25- 30 range in no time.
I'm sorry but I certainly don't believe that the CDC or ANYONE in government tells the truth about this (or anything). There is no reason that we should have any flights from Africa for any reason with this going on. If you want to go into Africa, great, but you shouldn't be allowed to leave until this is over one way or another.
If it's so hard to spread, how did all the doctors and people in the suits get Ebola? I certainly don't trust the CDC to contain this, remember that these are the idiots that left smallpox in an unsecured cabinet where anyone could've gotten it, and they mishandled anthrax and who knows what else.
But I am a certified "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist" so who knows. Funnily enough most of the things that us crazies believe end up happening. The world is a bad place and people are bad. Not a conspiracy theory, just facts.
My mom is in Dallas and freaking at the moment. She is also a dental assistant and all up in bodily fluids daily, so I guess that makes sense. I will continue to live in my bubble in Montana and in constant fear of the super volcano under jellystone
If you want to see how quickly bodily fluids can be spread, come to a typical school here. Over 1,100 kids on a campus meant for 700, each classroom has 33 or more students, and numerous adults rolling around. Kids are sneezing constantly, putting their fingers in their mouths then touching everything, hands down their pants, and spitting when they talk. Most of them wash their hands, but not all of them do and there can't be a teacher in the bathroom at all times monitoring. Don't get me started on potty or poop accidents, or bloody noses (and they happen almost daily). Things spread.
Not sure why the government has been so unconcerned about this, flights from infected parts of Africa should have been stopped a few months back.
Hopefully this doesn't amount to much, but stay safe and vigilant CDAN friends. Oh, and stock up on water and vitamin C just in case.
True Story: our oldest son "J" and my husband read "The Hot Zone" together when J was in 3rd grade. When cold and flu season arrived, I began getting calls from the irate mothers of J's classmates. Apparently J was diagnosing his snotty-nosed little friends as having Ebola, informing them that they would shortly start bleeding out of their eyes, and then die.
I'm no more worried than I am about the yearly meningitis, influenza, and now Enterovirus D-68. I'll continue to live my life and send my kids to school. With the internet and 24 hour news, there is so much fear mongering.
Oh, Disco. Didn't you get the memo? No logic allowed! :b
My first year teaching, I learned quickly that the wee little ones we call students are walking, talking, adorable petri dishes. Emergen-C, the tablet of anti-cold magic, was developed by a teacher and is stocked next to the water cooler in the lounge.
You can ban flights from Africa, but the dude came in from Brussels. Are we to now ban all international passengers until we can check their travelogue? The doctors treating him were told he was in an infectious area previously, and sent him home with antibiotics to treat a low-grade infection. How is the CDC responsible when the reporting came *after* the infection?
@Jessi, I hereby volunteer for your zombie apocalypse team. I can whip a stitch, I'm not afraid of blood, and we both know the survivors won't be the pedantics. :D
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ReplyDeleteOh Hell to the No. I thought you wanted Happy talk?!?
ReplyDeleteSide note: Ugh!!!! GUYS!!! I can't fucking believe it's October already :(
Here's my relevant song of the day. I dedicate this one to @Karen <3
Its in Texas now. Ugh
ReplyDeleteAnd just in time for the State Fair! Funnel cakes and Ebola...woo-HOO!
Deletescared shitless. thank god I live in the middle of nowhere in canada.
ReplyDeleteomg now here comes the mass hysteria from people who think you can just casually get it.
ReplyDeleteMore risk for entrovirus, and death. Which is awful unto itself, but another one I'm not concerned about.
DeleteEbola does not make me happy. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteEnty, I would have went with, "Ebola, huh? That's gotta suck!" But that's just the smartass in me.
ReplyDeleteGovernment's way of population control.hell maybe i'm just paranoid
ReplyDeleteI'm not worried about it. Yet. But I have a hard time with fear-mongering, what purpose does it serve?
ReplyDeleteWell at least we'll all die patting ourselves on the back for how "notracist" we were for not stopping flights from Africa!
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteNot thrilled. Not moving to the underground bunker just yet.
ReplyDeleteSaving that for the zombies. heh heh heh
I just read that the patient told the hospital he just got back from Liberia and was sick. And then, of course, sent him home with antibiotics. Makes me ill thinking about it. I hope it can remain contained, but I am slowly losing faith in our country. Between the paralyzing virus, the respiratory virus, and now this, I may become one of those crazy conspiracy theorists.
ReplyDeleteWas just discussing this with coworkers. I mentioned it was the next Zombie apocalypse. Coworker proceeded to correct me and inform me that this is not what Ebola does. NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!! I quickly walked away from that conversation. I would like to go home now. Oy vey!
ReplyDeleteHell Naw
ReplyDelete@Astra, you do realize that Ebola is spread through blood and body fluids right? and since our living conditions here are far superior to those in places like nigeria that it won't spread like it did there? Also because it's now in a developed country like America that drug companies will actually work to find a cure instead of ignoring it like they have been.
ReplyDeleteI honestly see no reason to get up in arms about it right now. They've isolated the person and found the people that person was in contact with. The cdc has plans in place for things like this.
...and so in the Off Topic post around a month ago ( re: whether the 2 Americans should be brought back to the states), some of us (@eros) questioned whether this was a wise choice; questioned some of us who referenced the film "Contagion".
ReplyDeleteJust saying.... one can never be sure how a virus/disease will morph And how far it will/can spread. The world should have taken immediate precautions - quarantined the area in Africa - no travel from - only to and only by health experts/ military aid.
I'm trying to have more compassion than I do, I don't understand why people go to places where they put themselves in danger.
ReplyDeleteEbola: hope it stays far far away from me, hope whoever has it gets well, and hope they find a cure asap
ReplyDeleteAww, thanks, @Lady H!
ReplyDeleteSYF, to help those less fortunate, to try and find cures for deceases, to fight wars, etc. where would we be as a country if we didn't have those people? we wouldn't exist right now.
ReplyDeleteokay, i'm done I promise. I already said all of this on the last ebola post. see y'all on the next blind.
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ReplyDelete"spread thru bodily fluids" Doesn't mean you have to slit your wrist and bleed into someone's mouth to pass it on. Sneeze, cough, tears and the ever present SWEAT whilst being in the State of Texas--those little pesky things that everyday people come in contact with just being out in the population. The last Dr brought back didn't even work in the Ebola ward, he was there delivering babies--but he still got it and supposedly NO ONE in the ward had it. I'm calling shenanigans on how this is spread. Puts on tin foil hat and heads to the bunker.....
ReplyDelete@lurker girl, i am with you. They won't say how the guy got ebola, not a health care worker or anything. Like our government wouldn't lie, right? they just don't want people to panic.
ReplyDeleteit always cracks me up when people accuse others of "the sky is falling the sky is falling" thinking.
ReplyDeleteSince when is being aware, and alert to a LEVEL 4 virus a bad thing?
By the way gang, they are testing a second person that was in contact with the patient.
Jesus, thank God he's not at Parkland, or we'd all be fucked. I'm 5 hours away from Dallas, but I must admit I'm a bit spooked. We've all seen Contagion.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but there aren't going to be ebola epidemics here. I'm not saying it'll never happen, but we have too extensive a health care system - regardless of hwo good you actually think our system is - for it to ever get out of hand. In Liberia and that region they barely even have latex gloves for God's sake! People, get a grip!
ReplyDelete1. There won't be a cure. It's a virus. If we could cure viruses, we'd cure the common cold and AIDS.
ReplyDelete2. Sweat does not contain full viral DNA and therefore can not transmit a viral infection. Full viral DNA is general contained in things such as blood, urine, feces, semen and can only be absorbed through skin break or mucous membranes.
3. A person infected with ebola is not contagious until they've begun showing symptoms.
4. Ebola is not an airborne contagion.
5. The outbreak in Africa is due to lack of centralized healthcare and primitive post-mortem rituals and traditions in which the body of the deceased who at that point is highly contagious is handled by many people and the ill are cared for at home without proper personal protective equipment.
7. Most people that contract and survive ebola infection are immune afterward.
8. Like I needed another reason to hate going to Dallas.
@JackD. I know, that's true and the right thing to do....I know. You're right. And I know things/accidents happen. But I just wonder if that's the case here. What ever reason he went, I surely wish he didn't get sick. But like the French man who was recently beheaded went to a dangerous place to go hiking. HIKING!! If all the places he could have gone, he went there. It's baffling.
ReplyDeleteIt also upsets me when some people act as if America Anericans are horrible yet they want to live here more than anywhere else, and don't want to help fellow Americans.
So, "if" that's the case with this man ("IF") then I get a little angry. But I still wish him well - for sure.
And....like I said, "I'm trying to have more compassion." I'm trying.
Or maybe Judgment Day is approaching.
ReplyDeleteWe all know that a virus or an asteroid is probably going to wipe out this planet sooner or later, population wise if we all don't drown when the polar ice caps melt. It is the universe's cycle of life.
They have no idea how Ebola starts or why it ends so suddenly. Hopefully it's contained here but these patients aid in finding a way to stop it and also survive. It can be cured if caught quickly enough and with the right medication they've found.
ReplyDeleteThe likely answer of how that doctor contracted ebola is infected food. Am I scared of ebola? Damn skippy I am. I'm not excited about going to an airport or getting on a plane in a couple of weeks, but I also have to keep my wits about me and not get in a tizzy since we have much better healthcare here. Houston has a very large community of people from Nigeria and Liberia and there is international travel to and from there in our airports all the time. All I can do is keep my purel on hand and not wipe other people asses for them.
ReplyDeleteSeriously though the 2 or 3 people who were shipped back to the US and were treated with the experimental drug are OK but the better question is how does a small fraction of ebola patients survive without even these experimental drugs.
ReplyDeleteI also believe that that a healthy person from a Western developed world has a less compromised immune system in general than the average African living in some of these countries, many war torn, where ebola has appeared.
* we would have a cure for HIV, not AIDS. AIDS is not the virus.
ReplyDeleteDeep fried ebola filled twinkies for everyone!
ReplyDeleteIs it a doctor that has ebola? I thought it was a Liberian citizen visiting the US.
ReplyDeleteMy ebola vaccine stock jumped six dollars a share overnight.
ReplyDeleteKeep the uninformed hysteria coming, I need to renovate my bathroom. Overall I'm up fifteen a share. But stooopid hysteria should put me in the 25- 30 range in no time.
I'm sorry but I certainly don't believe that the CDC or ANYONE in government tells the truth about this (or anything). There is no reason that we should have any flights from Africa for any reason with this going on. If you want to go into Africa, great, but you shouldn't be allowed to leave until this is over one way or another.
ReplyDeleteIf it's so hard to spread, how did all the doctors and people in the suits get Ebola? I certainly don't trust the CDC to contain this, remember that these are the idiots that left smallpox in an unsecured cabinet where anyone could've gotten it, and they mishandled anthrax and who knows what else.
But I am a certified "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist" so who knows. Funnily enough most of the things that us crazies believe end up happening. The world is a bad place and people are bad. Not a conspiracy theory, just facts.
To state the obvious human beings even the best trained and honest are fallible.
ReplyDeleteMuch less scary if you rhyme it with "Ricola". Not that my wife is very happy when I do it.
ReplyDeleteHow very Weird Al of you
DeleteMy mom is in Dallas and freaking at the moment. She is also a dental assistant and all up in bodily fluids daily, so I guess that makes sense. I will continue to live in my bubble in Montana and in constant fear of the super volcano under jellystone
ReplyDeleteWatching 5:00 news They're saying some little kid got in school. Yikes.
ReplyDeleteEast coast time, sorry.
ReplyDeleteI live in Florida. I'm screwed...
ReplyDeleteUgh, this is not good.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to see how quickly bodily fluids can be spread, come to a typical school here. Over 1,100 kids on a campus meant for 700, each classroom has 33 or more students, and numerous adults rolling around. Kids are sneezing constantly, putting their fingers in their mouths then touching everything, hands down their pants, and spitting when they talk. Most of them wash their hands, but not all of them do and there can't be a teacher in the bathroom at all times monitoring. Don't get me started on potty or poop accidents, or bloody noses (and they happen almost daily). Things spread.
Not sure why the government has been so unconcerned about this, flights from infected parts of Africa should have been stopped a few months back.
Hopefully this doesn't amount to much, but stay safe and vigilant CDAN friends. Oh, and stock up on water and vitamin C just in case.
Ebola is contagious, I don't care what the CDC says in how hard it is to get it.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter was staying there the week before that guy was admitted in that Dallas hospital. What a nightmare for everyone there, patients and staff.
ReplyDeleteTrue Story: our oldest son "J" and my husband read "The Hot Zone" together when J was in 3rd grade. When cold and flu season arrived, I began getting calls from the irate mothers of J's classmates. Apparently J was diagnosing his snotty-nosed little friends as having Ebola, informing them that they would shortly start bleeding out of their eyes, and then die.
ReplyDelete@Leah That. Is. Awesome!
ReplyDeleteI'm no more worried than I am about the yearly meningitis, influenza, and now Enterovirus D-68. I'll continue to live my life and send my kids to school. With the internet and 24 hour news, there is so much fear mongering.
Oh, Disco. Didn't you get the memo? No logic allowed! :b
ReplyDeleteMy first year teaching, I learned quickly that the wee little ones we call students are walking, talking, adorable petri dishes. Emergen-C, the tablet of anti-cold magic, was developed by a teacher and is stocked next to the water cooler in the lounge.
You can ban flights from Africa, but the dude came in from Brussels. Are we to now ban all international passengers until we can check their travelogue? The doctors treating him were told he was in an infectious area previously, and sent him home with antibiotics to treat a low-grade infection. How is the CDC responsible when the reporting came *after* the infection?
@Jessi, I hereby volunteer for your zombie apocalypse team. I can whip a stitch, I'm not afraid of blood, and we both know the survivors won't be the pedantics. :D