Today's Blind Items - Old Hollywood
#1- For all of his career, this mostly movie actor never got above B-list, although he co-starred in some A+ list movies. He raised eyebrows when his wives began to look the same and he went behind the camera in an attempt to make them bigger names. Especially the last one, who said she was underage when she first met and then married him. Although all of his wives knew (hell, they probably knew right away after he didn't sleep with them!), the public didn't know that he was gay. He got his first movie contract after having sex with his male agent, who "discovered" him after hiring him as an escort for a one-night stand. Towards the end of his life, he hired a male escort and contracted HIV, which his publicists quickly covered up and said he had lung cancer.
#2 - Easy Easy: Throughout the years after this A++ list actress/sex symbol's death, there have been reports of an amateur stag film made during the very early part of her career. The alleged porno actually began circulating when she was still alive! During an off day, she requested to see this film and one of her PR people snagged a copy. After watching the stag film, she laughed and said that the lady in the film was "too fat" to be her.
#2 - Easy Easy: Throughout the years after this A++ list actress/sex symbol's death, there have been reports of an amateur stag film made during the very early part of her career. The alleged porno actually began circulating when she was still alive! During an off day, she requested to see this film and one of her PR people snagged a copy. After watching the stag film, she laughed and said that the lady in the film was "too fat" to be her.
2) Marilyn
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1. John Derek?
ReplyDeleteGotta be Monroe for 2
ReplyDelete1: John Derek.
ReplyDelete2) maryliyn
ReplyDelete1)michal landon
Marikyn us #2 and there is a supposed pornography flick in circulation becuz I saw it.
ReplyDeleteIs it still "supposed" if you've "supposedly" seen it?
DeleteUrsula Andrews Libra Evans and Bo Derek looked similar.u
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ReplyDeleteAgree # 1 is John Derek…# 2 Monroe
ReplyDeleteI find that hard to believe about John Derek. He had some beautiful wives.
ReplyDeleteDerek had 2 kids with his 1st wife, none after that
ReplyDeleteMaybe he was bi or he just liked to possess beautiful things ie wives. Also a great cover, now there is a guy who kept his secret deep in the closet.
ReplyDelete#2 isn't even a BI.
ReplyDeleteMarilyn Monroe experts argue 'sex tape' is a fraud - and collector trying to sell it is looking for trouble
Marilyn Monroe Sex Tape Shows Oral Sex, Is Sold For $1.5M
Seven- what's "new" about this is the claim that it was around in Marilyn's day, that she knew about/saw it, and even commented on the plumpness!
Delete@LadyH, that's not new, either. A Hollywood bodyguard claimed he filmed Marilyn in a threesome with JFK and RFK, but wouldn't release it "out of respect for Joe DiMaggio". Whether it's true or not, no one knows, but if he refused to release it, then it would've been during their lifetimes, not released later.
DeleteSeized 'Monroe threesome sex tape starring JFK and his brother Robert' will not be auctioned after owner settles $200,000 court debt
LOL @7. I've never heard of or seen any account that Marilyn commented on it after viewing. But let's not get too carried away over the details as the blind is probably bs anyways? :D
DeleteDefinitely fits John Derek.
ReplyDeleteDerek's cause of death cited as cardiovascular disease
ReplyDeleteLandon pancreatic cancer that spread to his lungs(I remember
Heart/lungs? Would they not be more specific....dunno(no MD in this house lol)
ReplyDeleteIt must be him...mostly movie
ReplyDelete1. John Derek. Take a look at Bo Derek, Linda Evans & Ursula Adress. It's frickin creepy as shit.
ReplyDelete2. Marilyn. There have been recent blurbs in tabloids about this never-a-secret "film"
This article about Paul Newman alleges that he had an affair with John Derek: "he had an intermittent affair with actor John Derek throughout the Sixties (spanning Derek’s marriages to Ursula Andress and Linda Evans)." Enty could probably mine that article for half a dozen Old Hollywood blind items, if he hasn't already...
ReplyDeleteIve seen it and its online.
ReplyDeleteI was originally thinking Charlie Chaplin for 1, but now I don't know ...
ReplyDeletejohn derek did not die of lung cancer. michael landon was mostly tv and not in some big movies.
ReplyDeletehow bout steve mcqueen? died of lung cancer
ReplyDeleteYup #2 is Marilyn
ReplyDeleteWould Michael Landon be Old Hollywood????
Thats a good guess if so @Simon
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ReplyDeleteJohn Derek and Marilyn. John contracted HIV? I wonder if that's why Bo was so bitter about their relationship after he died?
ReplyDeleteyea steve mcqueen def in some huge movies and also went behind camera. his wives all brunette.
ReplyDeleteGotta be John Derek-He was in "All The King's Men";The Ten Commandments;
ReplyDeleteNickname: Svengali for 'molding' his wives;
Trivia: Michael Landon & Bill Bixby were in same Hospital @same time for Cancer in '91
Michael Landon was primarily a TV actor and TV producer/director and what wives did he put in front of the camera?
ReplyDelete..& Linda Evans was worried about Rock Hudson???
ReplyDeleteNot to mention Landon had tons of kids.
ReplyDeletewow 125records, Newman and Derek. oh too much prettiness
ReplyDelete@Simon, Steve McQueen wld be A with:
ReplyDeleteThe Thomas Crown Affair;
Pappilon;
The Great Escape;
Bullitt;
The Sand Pebbles; etc.. he was the star of these films
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ReplyDeleteWhat about the dad from Brady Bunch? He died of cancer, but it was later revealed he was HIV+. Also closeted for the sake of his career. Not sure if he qualifies as Old Hollywood, though...
ReplyDeleteMy first thought for number 1 was Chaplin as well, but he just liked them very young, I don't think they all looked alike and he was def A+++ Derek seems to fit.
ReplyDeleteBixby, Landon and the BB dad were better known for TV
1. Is absolutely John Derek
ReplyDelete2. Derp derp Duh!
My first guess for #1 was John Derek because Bo was just 16when they met and not much older when they married. Also, he was really possessive, even giving her the name Bo.
ReplyDeleteThat Marilyn sex tape is not even close to being a blind. Plus, it has been called a fake by everyone who has seen it. Besides, what would she care? She's in her happy place now. She can't be betrayed or hurt anymore.
1. John Derek-Many of the beautiful men of his era got their start on the male casting couch and there were HIV rumors about him a while back. That blind isn't very blind actually.
ReplyDelete@. I heard that Joltin' Joe was aware of a "stag type film" and he wanted to buy it to keep it from release. I don't know if this is the film that everyone says they have seen of Marilyn.
Definitely John Derek and Norma Jean Baker.....aka Marilyn Monroe....
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ReplyDeletedang, you beat me!
Deletechange it...John Derek. Linda and Bo look like they could be twins when they were younger.
ReplyDeleteTossing in Yul Brynner for 1. They used him for anti smoking commercials. Married 4 times.
ReplyDeleteMonroe as an A++ list actress? No way.
ReplyDeleteGuys, guys...how is it POSSIBLY John Derek when he DID NOT HAVE LUNG CANCER?! It HAS to be someone who HAD lung cancer.
ReplyDeleteI know, I know...I make mistakes, too. But when a quick Google/Wiki/IMDb search disproves a guess, why keep making it?!
Sorry for the crabby. But I really think this could help narrow it down:
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deaths_from_lung_cancer
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I read # 1 as Derek all the way.
ReplyDeleteAs far as # 2 goes there are plenty of fake Monroe porns and more than one real one. She was aware of all of them when they were being shot.
The most famous fake (where the actress performs oral) starred a popular Marilyn lookalike who worked at the same time as the real Monroe. It is an obvious fake as the hair/makeup makes her look like Marilyn in her heyday.
The one involving the Kennedys was shot at a mob getaway for the stars on Lake Tahoe. Sinatra was the house act. I've never seen it.
The real McCoy was shot when she was still Norma Jean and married to the sailor. She was trying to make it as a contract girl and was dating Tony Curtis (a favorite fucktoy of gay and bi studioheads and actors). Its about 6 mins long and its her. The premise is a vibrator salesman knocks on her door to ply his wares. Its boring, but its definitly her.
#1 is def John Derrick - it's creepy how the three wives looked so much alike - especially Linda Evans and Bo Derek - like younger versions of each other. He was a B list actor in A movies and did go behind the camera - was very controlling at least of Bo's career.
ReplyDeleteUrsulla Andress, Linda Evans and Bo Derek could be triplets if they were all the same age. I read this as John Derek and I never, EVER guess a blind correctly. Bo was 15 or 16 when they started dating.
ReplyDelete#1 is probably meant to be John Derek (with the lung cancer being there as a fudge), but I'll throw out Doug McClure's name for no other reason than my granny liked The Virginian and he had a LOT of wives, many of whom only lasted a few years.
ReplyDeleteLandon is only known really, for those of us old enough to remember, for TV (Bonanza, LHOTP and latterly Highway to Heaven which I loved). But he had pancreatic cancer not lung cancer (regardless of where a cancer ends up, it still remains the original cancer. This is important as different cancers behave differently and often need differing treatments).
Steve McQueen was A-list all the way,. He was as big a star as Paul Newman, and got the extra "even up" lines of dialogue in the Towering Inferno to prove it! His lung cancer was definitely caused by asbestos though.
Chaplin could fit to a certain extent, but he was A+++.
It could not be Chaplin in a million years. He got all but one of his wives pregnant, none of them looked remotely alike, Oona never acted in films and he died of old age before AIDS was even a thing.
ReplyDeleteDid George peppard have a lot of wives? Derek sounds reasonable.
ReplyDeleteHow about Joan Crawford for number 2? Just to make it interesting.
ReplyDeleteJohn Derek and Marilyn Monroe?
ReplyDeleteNo way was John Derek gay. It would have come out a LONG time ago.
ReplyDelete"Derek photographed the last three of his four wives (at different times) for nude spreads in Playboy magazine" (from wikipedia) and "I thought for sure John would realize that she was so much younger (Derek was 15) and it wouldn’t work and come back again" (Linda evans interview). I think you guys are right. I don't know if it's true, but I think he is the intended blind subject.
ReplyDeleteUh - just because there were two children in the Derek/Andress marriage doesn't mean he was the father. I mean, she had a kid by Harry Hamlin - Europeans are a lot less neurotic than we are about stuff like that.
ReplyDeleteThe first blind is definitely Derek.
#1 is a bingo for John Derek except all of his wives were heterosexual and there's no way they would marry a homosexual man and spend their married lives going without sex, or having to get it outside the marriage. No man, no matter how charismatic and attractive, can get three of the most beautiful and desirable women on the planet to marry him as beards.
ReplyDeleteAnd, as others have commented - HE DIDN'T DIE OF LUNG CANCER.
As for his two children, they were from his first marriage, not his marriage to Ursula Andress.
His first marriage was anomalous in two regards - that wife wasn't a statuesque blonde and they had children. Maybe he actually performed with her because he wanted to establish that he was straight, for his career.
Here he is, the picture of domesticity.
But - again - he didn't die of lung cancer.
1.. john derek
ReplyDelete2. elizabeth taylor.. only a DAME would be A++ and she would hate it if she was considered fat in her early child actress/ starlet days.. she married that hilton at 18. she might have thought she was plump..
#2 - Joan Crawford
ReplyDeleteIt could be Marilyn but Joan fits as well.
FWIW, I feel like Marilyn might be too obvious. I'm liking the Joan guesses.
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