Ray Rice's Wife Is Mad At Everyone
Apparently Ray Rice's wife blames the media and their desire for ratings for getting her husband banned from the NFL and released from his contract with the Ravens. In a statement yesterday, Janay Rice doesn't talk about the beating she suffered or being knocked unconscious, what she does do is blame the media for taking away all of the family's money to make money of their own. The only thing that happened yesterday was that the NFL couldn't pretend any longer or keep their head in the sand. Yes, sure TMZ paid for the video and posted it to get traffic and hits and make money, but it doesn't change the fact that Ray Rice beat his wife and knocked her unconscious. If Ray Rice is such a great guy, then have him show the world and spend the next year out doing 1000 hours of community service or traveling the country talking about domestic violence. He won't though. He will spend it at home in his mansion waiting for next year when he knows someone will take a chance on him and sign him to a new contract.
Sad, she doesn't see it. Very sad.
ReplyDeleteThe Cowboys will take him.
ReplyDeleteAll of his in Dallas yesterday thought the same thing. He is the perfect bookend for the drunk driver/friend killer.
Delete+1 bluebonnet mom. If I had a nickel for every time it hears or read that yesterday, well...I couldn't retire, but I'd definitely have a whole pile of 'em
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ReplyDeleteShe was broke & unknown before she got him, to her he's the lottery. She won't leave him no matter how bad he beats her or cheats on her & he knows that.
ReplyDeleteShe needs to work on herself so she is not dependant on an abuser. Go to therapy. Go to college & better herself so she can make her own income.
That video was just horrible. When he didn't even react to her being unconscious except to pick her up by her pits and drag her bonelessly flopping, off the elevator... it showed a callousness that just chilled me.
ReplyDeleteHe's been banned, even Canada won't hire him. Where is he going to get hired? Argentina?
he was so nonchalant when dragging her around. Didn't Cover her lady parts until well into the conversation with the hotel person.
DeleteExactly that was the worst part of it treating her unconscious body like trash. That said a lot
DeleteDomestic violence takes all the power away from the victim. She says she's in full support of her husband, regardless of beatings, that's total submission and control.
ReplyDeleteI'm sad for her. Yes, the gravy train has ended, now look for your self worth.
ReplyDeleteThis idiot is in it for the money, there is no other reason a woman would stay
ReplyDeleteMISH - you are a fucking moron. "there is no other reason a woman would stay" Wait, did I already call you a fucking moron? Let me say it again: YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON! Do you think that victims of abuse stay with their abusers for money? God, you are so fucking stupid. Do us all a favor and punch yourself in the fucking face repeatedly.
DeleteEveryone allowed their opinion, ghettoprincess
DeleteRosie: yes, and that was my opinion--that MISCH is a fucking moron.
Delete@MISCH. I like how u put it, and I agree with u.
Delete@VP. Kinda harsh but I'm thinking this may hit home with you. I DO believe women stay with abused men for reasons other than money, no doubt about that. But this chick could be an idiot just wanting the money.
It really is a no-win situation. If she stays, she's weak, looking for a meal ticket, etc. If she leaves, she was nothing but a gold digger, bailing out now that the cash is gone. I really feel like she has fallen prey to a bit of Stockholm syndrome. I hope she is able to stay safe, regardless.
DeleteTMZ isn't the only posting about it for clicks...
ReplyDeleteVery true Seven. Very true.
DeleteHaha @Seven!
DeleteWell, she can't scream at *him* without consequences, so she screams at everyone else.
ReplyDeleteThat nauseating video wasn't ambiguous. He punched her hard in the face. The end.
Not only did he punch her in the face, he spit on her before the elevator, then afterwards he dragged her unconscious out into the lobby, dropped her, and let some stranger help her.
ReplyDeleteI'd be afraid for my life dealing with a man that scary.
ReplyDeleteMaybe those were some on the intentions: to hurt HIM, to embarrass HIM, to make HIM feel alone, to take all of HIS happiness away. He kinda deserves those things. She again is just a victim, a bystander who is negatively affected because of his choices and also because of her choice/non choice to stay with him. He has worked his ass off and it doesn't seem fair to take all of that away or for him to lose his career so suddenly, but yes, if he'd go to counseling, do community service, and continuously work to better himself from this day on, maybe this could be forgotten. But will he do any of those things?
ReplyDeleteShe has been treated horribly. By him. By the NFL. By the Ravens. By the media. By commentators. I don't blame her for being mad.
ReplyDeleteGetting mad at him might just get her ass killed. DV victims that are murdered by the partners usually get murdered when they leave. Not when they are still there.
It's telling about her isn't it? When did money become so important that being abused is something you put up with? I know everyone will say it's the way abused women don't know any other way but I think in this case she just may. She wants the money and lifestyle. Very sad.
ReplyDelete@Sherry. + 1
DeleteIn this case I think it's about money. She's pusses that this coming to light means she list "her" millions.
While I agree many absed women stay for other reasons I don't think this is so much the case here.
When she ends up dead it will be too late for her to see that outsiders can see what's in her best interest more than she can.
Typo. "Pusses" = pissed
DeleteI haven't watched the video (been there, done that, don't need to relive it). I have no idea who either of these people are, but I do recognise a victim when I see one.
ReplyDeleteShe is embarrassed and ashamed. She is angry now that everyone knows and she can't pretend everything is hunky dory anymore.
That is in no way blaming her. She is having an emotional reaction, but in front of thousands of people.
But the thing that she's upset and angry about is the exact same thing that will get her through it eventually.
Now everyone knows. There is no more pretending anymore.
Of course, she will have to be the one to make things change. Only she can do that.
And that shit is hard. You have to get your own head right before you can do that.
And he needs to be sorted out by a gang of bikers down a dark lane.
I've been there and done that shit too.
I'm proud of you for getting out that shit isn't easy I was in the same situation and finally a lightbulb clicked in my head that I don't deserve this and I had to leave. Your abuser knows every angle, button, explanation to throw at you to control you and hopefully she will finally wake up, leave and get help like I did.
DeleteGood on ya Anjelicka. It is so easy to fall into that situation, and so very hard to get out of it. I'm proud of you.
DeleteI was only 17 when it started. I thought I was all grown up and moved away from home with the prick. He knew exactly how to isolate and manipulate me.
But then I remembered that I don't deserve that shit. I have a good family and lots of support. And when my sister saw the bruises and kick and bite marks I knew it was time to snap out of it.
I was mortified. I tried to make excuses. I felt that I was to blame because he had an awful childhood and I shouldn't provoke him.
But that wasn't my fault.
All I kept thinking was that if I lived til 70 that meant I'd have nearly 50 years of beatings to look forward to.
Oh Hell No!!!
I got out and never looked back. And my biker friends let him know, in no uncertain terms, that I would never look back.
I know I'm lucky. I hope this poor woman has at least one person in her life that is truly on her side.
She needs support and help and a lot of understanding.
Logic and reason go out the window when it comes to spousal abuse. You want it to stop, but you don't want anyone to know. It's a vicious cycle and its very hard to break.
I wish her strength and luck.
Well said. Great points.
DeleteGlad we all made it out. :-)
@Steampunk, he's been banned "indefinitely" which really just means that he's banned until they say he isn't. He's not banned permanently so it's entirely possible that a team/owner who doesn't care about his past would rally around him, sign him to the team, and then parade him around as a reformed man.
ReplyDeleteUntil he does it again and they say that they're disappointed that he betrayed their faith in him.
Man. ain't that the shizz. I thought it was permanently, (which I thought was harsh) but that down the road after the "therapy'' they might reconsider...
Delete@Karen & @Steampunk
DeleteI thought of Michael Vick and when he was suspended indefinitely. Now he's back in the NFL.
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ReplyDeleteI agree, Seven! Anything for clicks.
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, yesterday the CFL (Canadian Football League, who btw, will pretty much hire anyone, including Chad Johnson), said that Ray Rice wouldn't be welcome here.
I'm sure down the road, someone will hire him, but right now, he's poison.
@Susan
ReplyDeleteI doubt it. Abusers tend to be assholes (Sean Penn, Chris Brown), they don't think anything they do is wrong. However, Ray getting dropped from the team could be just the kick in the ass that he needs. As far as his wife goes, she's hopeless IMO If he leaves her he will get with another rich/WORKING/abusive man.
Unfortunately
ReplyDelete1) she thinks this is her fault
2) blames her and will probably beat her more because of this ....believing that this is all her fault that he lost his millions
3) the indefinite suspension I believe they are just biding their time and waiting until this all boils over and then another NFL team will hire him
trust me no one will be punished ...no one will lose anything.
Another nfl team will hire him as soon as the public outcry dies down .... I hope the nfl proves me wrong... But they won't .... NFL is filled with a bunch of pussies
I agree with Nora... He blames her.... He's prob'ly made this into It's All Her Fault! As in: "You made me hit you"; "If you hadn't (whatever), then I wouldn't have lost my temper". "Everything we have is going away.... and it's all your fault". Because isn't that what abusers do? They make EVERYTHING the victim's fault. And Janay (thank you Prunella for using her name) has heard this, as has anyone who has been a victim of abuse. I'm not going to judge her, I hope this motivates him to change his life. (Because, let's face it: public shame has an impact, or at least I hope it does).
DeleteShe's mad she's married to an abusive loser who is now unemployed and going to run out of money. I guess she figured getting smacked around was worth it before.
ReplyDeleteClarification: rice won't be punished (except being fired)... He even got a slap on the wrist by the DA ( who is probably a ravens/rice fan)... If a non-Celebrity had done that... Slap on the wrist? No, they would be jail. The ONLY person who will suffer the consequences of this are HER! She was probably beaten into writing that msg.
ReplyDeleteKind of annoying to read most of you shitting on the victim and calling her greedy, saying she only stays for the money. Guess what, judgmental bitches--plenty of abused women stay with their abusers who aren't rich. Are they greedy trash? No, you would be sympathetic to them, but not to her because her husband was rich. I hate most of you.
ReplyDeleteIts just that its easy to be judgmental when someone makes questionable remarks to begin with, then doubles down with a post like this. You think this woman will still be with him a year from now? Nope. They've been together for 6 years wo marriage and suddenly marry one month after this incident? Was she using the media spin machine then?- jeesh
DeleteShe feels like she "lost her closest friend" she did, its named Money. and she THOT.
ReplyDeleteThat's not how you use the word THOT. If you're gonna blame a victim here, at least use the term correctly. Dumbass.
DeleteThanks for the heads up kels, youre so awesome. And also, u THOT.
DeleteHe doesn't see what he did as wrong. He's also blaming everyone else, including her for makeing him have to hit her. He's grown up with the world bending for him & making allowances for his bad behaviour. If she did leave him, he would find another girl that night & treat her the same way.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone read #whyistayed and #whyileft on twitter?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/ray-rice-abuse-video-sparks-powerful-twitter-hashtag
Janay's face in this picture really gets to me. She looks like she has so many emotions going on behind those submissive,lowered eyes.
Great link. thank you.
DeleteShe is a victim of abuse. I beleive she married him, so that he would not lose his job. He got fired anyway, and she is still trying to protect him.
ReplyDeleteThis is classic abuse victim behavior. Poor people beat their spouses too and no one screams those women are in it for the money.
These women (and men) have been psychologically broken by their abusers. They actually empathize with their abusers and blame themselves for the abuse.
In the video, he showed no remorse, only contempt for her. He punched her in the face and dragged her across the floor. He could have picked her up, and never did. He did nothing to revive her. Nor, did he pull her skirt down, and cover her up. He checked his phone more than he checked on her. I thouhgt he was taking pictures of her lying unconscious on the floor. I wouldn't put it past a pice of shit to document his crime(s).
People seem to be forgetting, she is the victim, not the criminal. As @ Vintage said, it is not uncommon for victims to stay with their abusers, regardless of money or status. Look at the statement she made months ago, accepting responsibility for her part in the incident. She believes (or has been threatened to believe) that her actions caused the situation. Yes she will be impacted by the punishment, but she should be hopeful that Rice may now get the help he needs to overcome his issues. But under the threat of more violence, it's easier to be mad at everyone else, than the person with the ability to hurt you again.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what happens behind closed doors with no cameras around. That could not have been the first time he struck her.
ReplyDeleteThe complete lack of care afterwards was so telling. He never checked to see if she was okay. If it was accidental, in that he didn't mean to punch her so hard, he would have immediately been on the ground checking on her. That is what I cannot get over.
I wonder what her childhood was like to make her think her relationship is any kind of normal. To make her think she should apologize and even write this. Maybe he doesn't beat her as bad as her parents did. That would make this look better in her eyes. I really hope they don't have kids. And I hope she lives through this too.
ReplyDeleteWell to be devil's advocate, how embarrassed would anyone be to have their dirty laundry aired out in public like that regardless of what decisions this woman makes in the future and second of all, is taking away the career of a domestic abuser the solution to making him stop - I think one could argue no. He needs therapy like an NFLer with a cocaine problem needs rehab. I think the NFL would look even better if they took an active interest in helping their players.
ReplyDeleteDo we know if he has hit her since that incident, did he try to get help was he getting help? It seems just a little unfair because you darn well know there are many players who do the same just have not been caught. Will fear of the same result change their behaviour, probably in some cases.
Beyond that I do think this woman loves this guy and clearly in huge denial because unless he is getting active therapy and help for his issues, she is going to get beat up again and the outcome may not be good this time. But doesn't everyone deserve a second chance if they are will to take it?
Exactly HRLady.
ReplyDeletePeople don't understand. I've worked with women who were isolated, pulled down, made to feel dependant on the perpetrators. Constant mental, physical, social, emotional, financial and sexual abuse will do that. Learned helplessness.
Let's stop victim blaming please. No one deserves the way she's been treated. Think if a caged animal that is beaten and kept shut up. Many of these women have no confidence; resources, support networks or strength to get out (without help)
Well stated
DeleteI mean the NFL trying to be an arbiters of morality is rather ironic isn't it? The sport of concussions and steroids?
ReplyDeleteThis is a part of an article posted today on CNN. I thought his statement speaks to his state of mind and complete lack of awareness.
ReplyDelete"At a press conference in July, Rice said his actions were "inexcusable" and that he and his wife were in counseling. The couple married March 28.
"We're taking the necessary steps to move forward," he said. "My job is to lead my family. My job is to lead my wife. My job is to lead in whatever I do. And If I'm not being the example, then my family crumbles.' "
Here is the link.
I've worked with both the women and children who have been victims of DV, as well as the perps in a men's behaviour change (read=anger management) program. I only encountered one male, who actually fully engaged in the program out of at least 150. The others were there due to mandates from child protection, custody orders, or they'd turn up for one or two sessions to look good in court. Mostly narcissists who were never wrong, not to blame. It was always someone elses fault. No accountability=no change.
ReplyDeleteEff off if you think these women get ANYTHING out of this. Poor, wealthy, Muslim, christian, whatever. It's all about power.
It blows my mind that people act like the video of the actual punch changes anything.
ReplyDeleteA man and a woman walk into an otherwise-empty elevator.
When the doors open, the man drags the woman's unconscious body out of the same otherwise-empty elevator.
What does anybody think happened? A cadre of Ninjas ducked down through the access hatch, cold-cocked her, and climbed back up?
Me too @beehaven.
ReplyDeleteUntil you've seen a domestic violence victim with broken arms, bruised face, and worse...yet still protecting and staying with her spousal abuser, you can't understand the psychological effect that domestic violence has on the victim. They are under the full mind control of their abuser. The strength it takes for them to leave is almost insurmountable.
And yes, victims stay with the abuser, money or not, it's not about that.
I recommend reading the book Life With Billy, for anyone who feels the need to victim blame a domestic abuse victim.
+1 fir the book life with billy & its sequel. It's a haunting story that's true & very sad ending
DeleteFuck therapy. Rice belongs in jail.
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ReplyDeleteThis morning on the news they said there are 2 active players in the NFL with current DV cases pending. I wonder if either of these teams will fire the players. I think shy of video evidence, they won't.
ReplyDelete@Flirtychick, thanks for the article. His job is to lead his wife, is it? Yup. Psycho.
ReplyDeleteWow...this is a typical type of response from an abused woman. She doesn't see it at all and she's making excuses. She married a very sick man and abusive man. She's an enabler. First off...he's not a man. A man doesn't hit a woman. He knocked her out, and then just dragged her out like she was some cheap trash. He didn't even seem concerned that she was knocked out.
ReplyDeleteShe's going to show the world what real love is??? If someone ever loved me the way Ray loves her, I'd be out the door and he'd be in jail.
She will be gone within a few months. Max. This very media spin that shes slamming will give her the exit and strength to leave.
ReplyDeleteYou heard it hear first.
Gone by Christmas.
And then best of luck w your next choice.
#breakTheCycle!
Wait a sec gang, it's not like they are left broke. Didn't he get a lump sum of 25 million for his contract and the rest to be paid out.
ReplyDeleteLike @JAS said, we all knew what happened in the elevator, it just makes it more horrific to actually see it on video.
I am glad that TMZ forced the hand and showed the video. But we all know the NFL is totally covering their own asses.
Lady, he knocked the stupid into you when he punched you.
ReplyDeleteNow, you get what you deserve. The world is on your side, and you do this? Fine, stay with him, see if you live another 5 years.
I don't want to sound racist or anything, but based on what I read on Mediatakeout and their comments section.. I gotta know why the hell black women just take so much abuse from their men?! Even Beyonce, who is so successful and seems to be quite a strong and independent woman, allegedly accepts beatings and cheating from Jay. SMH. Rihanna also seems like a really strong woman and yet she kept going back to Chris Brown.
ReplyDeletethe comment section of MediaTakeout is the epitome of racist. I enjoy reading it but theres times when I have to turn the page, its just so negative and nasty. There is a definite race line drawn over there. Hey kels, thats where I learned the def of thot. Waa waaa suckit
DeleteVintagePrincess rails against abuse and violence...then tells someone to punch themselves in the face repeatedly. Interesting!
ReplyDeleteAstra, you're an idiot. punch yourself in the fucking face. If you don't understand the difference between this guy assaulting his wife and me telling someone who says 'abused women don't stay with their abusers so she's in it for the money' that they should punch themselves in the face, you are too stupid to discuss any of this further. please commence punching yourself in the face, you fucking moron.
DeleteHow exactly do you use THOT in the 'right' way?
ReplyDeleteI wonder what she thought when she saw the video. The total lack of regard for her unconscious body is astounding.
She is blasting people people who are outraged on her behalf.
I really understand her untenable situation, been there, but did she honestly think no one would have an opinion.
We're all on her side, however she will become vilified re Rhiana Iunless she uses her position to highlight DV.
That Ho Over There
Deleteits an acronym.
I always thought it was Thirsty Hating Old Trick?? Hahahaa...multipurpose I guess...
DeleteThis broad needs an intervention.
ReplyDeleteI assume that she is still with him because of a locked up tight pre-nup that gives her nothing if she bails and doesn't have any clause that precludes him beating the shit of her...
ReplyDelete@Its just U,-Thank You for sharing your personal journey 2 hell&back-it's so encouraging to hear about you coming out the other end Triumphant-stronger,wiser,compassionate & empathetic on a very complex issue!-You really struck a chord when u said your 1st reaction was "I was mortified"!! U didn't do anything wrong yet still,the inherent shame attached to this vicious cycle of DV is so overwhelming & powerful(understandingly used as a coping/survival tool),that it's often just too hard,dangerous & scary to respond any differently,w/o any alternative tools/tactics in sight.
ReplyDeleteNFL is shitting bricks over this. On one hand, Rice has a good lawsuit against them, because he already received his suspension and the collective bargaining agreement says a player can only be punished once for an incident. On the other hand, nothing but stringing him up by the balls is going to placate the loons.
ReplyDeleteThere was nothing on the elevator video that we didn't know before it made its way online, so the Ravens cutting him and NFL suspending him is just PR bullshit to placate the hysteria. The court had the video, and put him in a 1yr intervention program, because they aren't beholden to public hysteria.
I will be pulling for Rice in his pending lawsuit against the NFL. Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner, and his handling of this incident is just more proof of it.
It was great reading about reader's stories overcoming abusive situations.
ReplyDeleteThank's for defining THOT.
OK. There is SOOOOOOOOO much about this story that infuriates and saddens me.
1. Her piece of shit husband didn't even drag her knocked out ass all the way out the elevator door. When I shamefully watched that video yesterday on TMZ, I kept envisioning the Revel elevator opening and closing on her limp legs.
2. The fact that the Ravens held a press conference during which this woman said she "regretted" her role in the incident, and then the team posted that shit on their Twitter. What the fuck kind of world do I live in?!?!?!?! Jesus Christ.
3. I do not blame this woman, and it is sad that so many people are calling her a gold digger and a whole mess of other hateful names, when none of us know the whole situation. This man is the father of her daughter.
4. I would respect the NFL more if they actually helped these people get counselling.
5. How this Ray Rice can live with himself is beyond my comprehension.
6. All day yesterday all I could imagine is that the wife is probably going to get her ass beat all week due to this story blowing up.
7. I'm so over football. Thank god we just installed a second mac daddy TV so that my husband can watch this shit without moi.
Ahhh, she's inside her own head where this gibberish makes sense. Like mary jo b, it will take a while but eventually she will see the light, hopefully.
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ReplyDelete@Its just U
Thank you for sharing your hard-won wisdom, ladies. I'm so, so relieved that you dragged yourselves out of that situation.
Ray Rice's punishment, however lenient, has been doled out. We can't change that now. What we need to do is look at the bigger picture. The NFL and all other sports organizations are never going to reform their attitude towards their players' treatment of women unless it begins to affect their bottom line. The effective form of protest here is for female sports fans to withhold their cash. Don't buy tickets, don't buy jerseys.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly why I have no sympathy for women who stay in abusive relationships. They alway, always defend the abuser and go off on you.
ReplyDeleteAnd before the trolls attack me, I speak from my own experience--an aunt of mine was in an abusive marriage for years and years. She didn't even try to fight back until her step daughter--yes, the abusers own daughter--told her that he would kill her if she didn't start fighting back. So my aunt started fighting back and her husband suddenly wanted a divorce. They got the divorce and I'll be damned if my aunt didn't miss him and then, after he died, grieve him for the rest of her life. My whole family told her all along to leave him, but, just like all the other abused women, always defended her husband. Even at his funeral, she was defending him to their sons, one of whom hated him for what he had to see growing up.
If you want to feel sorry for abused wives, don't waste it on ones in the developed world. Feel sorry for women who, unlike this chick and my aunt, truly have no escape--women in the third world whose own blood relatives will kill them if they try to leave, such as inIndia, the Arab world, Africa. Give your sympathy to them.
Delete-well stated. It is infuriating to hear someone upset about an abuser. I know a case where husband in jail 4 years now for molesting his then 11 yr old adopted daughter, which i only add as some sort of teeny explanation for why she mourns and misses him everyday! We all know shes gonna take him back when he gets out of jail. On thanksgiving, she was in kitchen in tears, missing him, and my friend cldnt help it, she burst out with" What? doesnt he disgust you?" She just cried. So i well understand your exasperation with missing an abuser. Diane lane is another one i cant stand for that reason; all her interviews are full of the wonderfulness of her asshole husband. Do these people EVER stop to think about the profound and severe damage they do to their children? Like you, i dont frigging get it.
DeleteGross. You have the experience of a bystander which means sweet fuck all. If you had the experience of a domestic violence victim, you would understand how broken they are , they don't feel they deserve anything better and they are often told their children will be taken away from them or their relatives will be harmed if they leave. The most dangerous time for a victim is when they try to leave or after they have already left. That is when victims are murdered by their ex partners. As for the victims in both your stories, that is called Stockholm Syndrome.
DeleteOT - so for perhaps a happier note, how was the Kate Bush show Yoj?
ReplyDeleteShelly Shell, why don't you do a little research before you post your comments here.
ReplyDeleteThey met when they were 16 years old. Ray Rice was not yet a rich NFL star. They are high school sweethearts.
As for telling his wife to go to college and get a job skill, SHE IS A COLLEGE GRADUATE.
Yup, a black NFL wife with a college degree.
And Shelly Shell's head explodes in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
5 facts about Janay Rice
@MinPinGirl
ReplyDeleteOMG Thank you so much for asking! I didn't want to be the one to bring it up... IT WAS WONDERFUL! The best concert and one of best nights of theatre I've ever witnessed. I ran the gamut of emotions, the whole audience did really. She is a magical performer.
Cycle of Abuse
ReplyDeleteThanks for that. I'll pass it on.
DeleteYou don't hit anyone. That goes for her as well. They should have both been up on domestic violence charges. It's not how hard you hit someone - it's the fact that you are hitting them at all that is the problem. Seems they both get off on it. Only real tragedy here is that there is a child involved.
ReplyDelete@A Girl the comments section of MTO is not the place to educate yourself in regards to black women. As a black woman, I can categorically tell you that neither myself, nor any of my female friends - black, white and everything in between - have ever been victims of domestic violence. Let's not make this a colour thing - women around the world of all colours and at all levels of society are being victimised.
ReplyDelete@smadger badger, you use British spelling (colour vs color, victimise vs victimize)...just curious, are you in the UK?
ReplyDeleteI think that is the one question I don't understand, if the prosecutor's office had both videotapes and "refused" to give the one inside the elevator to the NFL, cough cough don't believe it unless the prosecutor had his own agenda, and tell me that never happens, why hasn't this guy been criminally charged. I still find it ironic that the NFL is dictating morals to anyone.
ReplyDeleteDiscussing this on the radio, same radio hosts said that Rice would not get any payout. May depend on law suits and such which I am sure will be becoming.
Just stopped at a men's sport forum one of the posters described this as a "lynching" of Ray Rice.
I do agree that that the way this story has taken on a life of its own it does seem like a pile on since didn't this guy admit to hitting his wife in the first place? However he should have been criminally charged first and foremost.
Nobody thought maybe he made her put out this statement?
ReplyDeleteWhether she's staying for the money or not, her brain is fucked up. I consider her mentally ill to think she's so worthless and can't make a decent living herself that she has to live in fear of constant physical harm. She needs help, not hate, no matter how ungrateful she seems to anyone who extends a hand.
interesting read ladies
ReplyDelete@smadger Badger... THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! I wasn't quite sure how to respond to that comment... you hit it perfectly on the head :)
ReplyDeleteI just hope he doesn't kill her.
ReplyDeleteSad and pathetic. She needs counseling and also to get the fuck as far away from that piece of shit as possible.
ReplyDeleteAt the risk of being instructed to f-ing punch my f-ing self in the f-ing face repeatedly: Camille Paglia wrote an interesting essay in which she asserts that many of these women "get off" on the abuse, the drama and the makeup sex. I'll find a link and post it.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how each intends to explain that video and the behavior involved to their precious child? Therein lies the truth of their situation.
It's quite fascinating to read how riled up certain posters will get talking about certain subjects. This may be due to personal experience, but surely you must know that your experience is not that of the next person's. Simply put, you can speak to your opinion but you may NOT speak with authority on why someone else does what they do.
ReplyDelete@VintagePrincess - I remember two women come to give a talk about domestic violence when I was in school. One of them was a counsellor who worked with abused women and the other was an abused woman. She made it very clear that the whole reason she stayed WAS in fact the money. They weren't wealthy, but they had a home and she talked about how her kids liked designer jeans. So on some level, yes, money is very much a motivator. You don't get to say otherwise.
*women CAME to give a talk. *sigh* If I don't correct it, surely someone else will.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure there are masochistic nut-bags out there who get off on the drama, but many of these women are just battered and shattered with no sense of pride or even self-worth, for that matter. In the old days the males of the girl's family would lay a beating on the abuser, and maybe that's what's needed here. I know the answer to curtailing violence isn't more violence, but these neanderthals simply need a beating or worse. Go Santino Corleone on his ass...
ReplyDeleteWhile it is shocking to actually see the violence in the video what did people think happened in the elevator??? He dragged her out unconscious?? Didn't sound like he denied something violent happened or that he hit her?? NFL just covering their ass now that the video is out and the outrage. They should have punished him more initially but he may well have good case against the NFL since they already punished him. Unless he or his wife lied to them about what went down in the elevator seems like NFL should be bound by their first punishment.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, Ray Rice was not fired because the Ravens and/or NFL saw that tape - he was fired because WE saw it.
ReplyDeleteI do not blame her for being unhappy that her personal business is out there in the public - I would be mortified if that happened. It's bad enough that something so horrific happened to you, but to have it broadcast worldwide must be awful.
I wouldn't worry too much about his compensation - he's going to get to keep about $25million according to CNN Money:
"Rice signed a 5-year, $35 million deal in 2012, $15 million of which was a signing bonus.
He got another $7 million bonus in 2013, and also collected $3 million in salary over the first two years of the contract.
Almost none of that $25 million can be clawed back by the Ravens or the NFL, according to Mike Ginnitti, managing editor of Spotrac, a Web site that tracks professional sports contracts."
I'll bet money that he is playing in the NFL again in a year or two. Michael Vick was banned and he's been signed by Philadelphia and the Jets since then.
Holy shit, there is entirely too much victim-blaming in this thread.
ReplyDeleteBest line on this thread so far: "First of all, Ray Rice was not fired because the Ravens and/or NFL saw that tape - he was fired because WE saw it."
ReplyDeleteExactamundo.
And I made a point yesterday on the other Ray Rice thread that somebody else made this afternoon, basically:
She walks into an elevator conscious, with Ray Rice. Nobody else boards the elevator. The next time the doors open he's dragging her unconscious limp body out of the same elevator.
Unless she fainted, she was unconscious because of something HE did. Do we actually have to see the punch to figure it out?
Another point - if we had seen video of Michael Vick killing dogs in particularly vicious ways and LAUGHING while he did it (according to the testimony of his co-defendants) ... his career in the NFL would have been OVER.
But we didn't see it. And even though some of us read the court testimony and boiled with rage, most people didn't, or lacked the imagination to think what it must have been like for those dogs in the last brutal minutes of their poor lives. And the lives they led before their deaths were pretty horrible too.
So, what anon said. It's not about what happened so much as people SEEING what happened.
But why did we have to SEE the punch to become angry about what happened?
By the way, there's a difference between being BANNED and being SUSPENDED.
Ray Rice has been suspended. That's the Commish hedging his bets to see which way public opinion blows in a couple of years.
But now that I know Ray Rice has $25 million (or what's left of it) ... to cushion the blow - screw him. And screw her for that matter, whining about this. She's still way richer than all of us.
As for commenting about other people's experience, hell yeah we can comment about other people's experience. This isn't a court of law, it's a freaking celebrity blind site. The standards are not very high, folks.
For people asking , "what did you think happened in the elevator?" Thinking about what May have occurred is very different than seeing it actually happen!
ReplyDeleteI may be in the minority here, but until I saw the actual video of what happened inside the elevator I wasn't willing to pass judgement. When I first saw the video of him dragging her out of the elevator I thought any number of things could have happened. I thought it was very disturbing that the first place people went was domestic violence. As someone who tried to be a good samaritan and almost ended up taking the fall for the boyfriend who'd run away by then, we shouldn't jump to conclusions. Sure, everyone's suspicions were proven correct this time, but that's not always the case
ReplyDeleteMichael Vick was worse. If anyone read what he did to those dogs, they would understand he was a sociopath.
ReplyDeleteRice will be back when the smoke clears, just like Vick.
I hope her family drags her out of this shitty situation.
ReplyDeleteI cannot fucking BELIEVE Michael Vick was allowed to have a pet dog. It's like allowing a pedophile to adopt a child.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait until he retires and goes back to his old ghetto ways and his hangers-on and "financial advisors" bleed him dry. He's dumb enough to let that all happen again although I doubt that he's dumb enough to get involved in dog fighting again.
As for Ray Rice, I think both he and his (then) fiancee admitted that things got physical in the elevator. And she didn't knock HERSELF unconscious. And neither of them said she fainted or fell. So in a case like that? Not difficult to connect the dots, though generally you're right, we shouldn't rush to judgment.
Although - nobody seems to mind rushing to judgment about the cop in Ferguson, do they, and none of us saw video of THAT incident.
@Prunella, yes, I am, hence why I'm always a day late in commenting ;)
ReplyDelete1) just because he gets to keep his $25M doesn't mean that she gets any of it. Guys like that can be extremely stingy to their wife and kids. So I highly doubt she's spending his money on Rodeo Drive every day.
ReplyDelete2) Don't underestimate the power of external (and in turn internal) pressure to stay. I'm sure she has heard that if she leaves, she will be creating a broken home for the kids. People will look down on her because she failed and is now a single mom. Believe it or not, I hear this type of nonsense at work all the time. I argued with a co-worker once who thought that anyone who came from a single parent home was never going to do well in life.
3) Then again, some people stay because they don't have a clear escape plan. They haven't worked outside the home in a long time. And honestly, going from upper class to welfare is a big drop. Also, the divorce process takes forever and is costly. You don't get money automatically just because you said you want a divorce. Attorneys aren't cheap, especially in high dollar cases.
I doubt anyone would take him on - his career is done - he is toxic waste to any team. I only wonder why Vick was given a new start.
ReplyDeleteHoly shit, women are dumb. This thread was thoroughly entertaining.
ReplyDeleteI find it completely hypocritical that the Ravens released Rice after employing a murderer for 15yrs.
ReplyDeleteI guess they didn't have the murders on tape. I'm tellin' ya, you can get away with anything as long as there's no video. Even Rice did until the second video was released.
ReplyDeleteThe NFL had the video from an unnamed AC law enforcement official 3 months ago. The AP just reported this, and said the guy played a voicemail from an NFL office # confirming they received the video.
ReplyDeleteRay Rice gonna make enough on his lawsuit that he won't have to step on the field again.
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ReplyDeleteOlberman drives me crazy most of the time but this is a stellar rant
ReplyDeleteKeith Olberman Destroys Ray Rice, Roger Goodall and Everyone Involved Video
He is going to hurt her again. It isn't over. My guess is she's been hit before this episode and it will happen again.
ReplyDelete@Mary Mack: You seem to have evidence that this is part of a pattern of abuse and not a one time incident between 2 drunken assholes. Please share it with the crowd.
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