I think it's Courtney from masterchef too. She has a six year old brother they brought on the show a couple of times and she would go on about how he was her inspiration, blah blah blah. I thought it was an unusually large age gap but wasn't too judgemental because there's a 14 year gap between my youngest sister and me. Looking at the two of them I think she looks more like his mother than his sister.
There is a housewives of Vancouver and Jody claims her younger DAUGHTER is her own but in reality it is Jodys other daughter Mia who is the mom and had her very young--but that is daughter and no one cares about RHOV anymore
Ack, as a Canadian I really thought that franchise was horrid. And that Jody? I couldn't watch her at all- I watched to punch her! And I can sit through RHOA so that says a lot!
The conjunction screws it up. Mom to a child AND not his sister could mean she's mom the girl and not to the boy, or she's the boy's sister pretending to be his mother.
This is that stripper who just won Master Chef. She had a different pair of Louboutins on each episode. I was wondering what the story was behind those shoes....until she almost "broke down in tears" confessing she works at a "Gentlemen's Club." Mmmmm-hmmm......she gets the side-eye for that and alleging she's got a younger brother. Shame on her for lying to him. But the truth always comes out.
I think it's Master Chef Courtney as well, it isnt impossible but kinda unlikely that her mom had kids 20 years apart and he looks exactly like C. It's also been said on reddit over a week, so not a new theory http://www.reddit.com/r/Masterchef/comments/2fz17r/was_that_really_courtneys_brother/
Courtney from Master Chef. I clued in when she said she moved away shortly after he was born. Lots of people do this...raise a grandchild as their own, for whatever reasons there may be to do so. It really does screw up the kid though when they discover the truth.
Bristol Palin is the mother of Trig Palin. 1) no one really knows Trig's birthdate. Sarah Palin announced his BD as 4/18/08, but there's no record -- anywhere (and she lies a lot). ALL records pertaining to Trig Palin are sealed, on order from the Gov at the time...Sarah Palin. 2) Bristol hinted on MySpace in July 2007 she might be pregnant. She didn't hint her MOTHER was pregnant. 3) If Trig was born Jan-Feb 2008, not April 2008 to Bristol, she could certainly have gotten pregnant soon afterward, and delivered Tripp in late December.
As for the Palin thing - it's extremely unusual for a very young mother to have a Down Syndrome child - the odds of a DS child increase dramatically with the age of the mother.
also eric clapton was raised by his grandparents thinking they were his parents b/c his mother was young and his dad was a married Canadian jazz musician
@sugarbread, of course there can be health consequences to the fetus if the mother uses drugs or alcohol or has other medical issues. However Down Syndrome is caused by a genetic mutation (usually in cell division in the egg) and older eggs are more likely to undergo this improper cell division.
From Wikipedia:
"Maternal age affects the chances of having a pregnancy with Down syndrome. At age 20, the chance is one in 1441; at age 30, it is one in 959; at age 40, it is one in 84; and at age 50 it is one in 44."
Bristol was 17 when Trig was born, and Sarah Palin was 44. The odds of a 17 year old mother having a Down Syndrome child are - rounding down from 1/1441 at age 20 - let's say 1/1500. The odds of a 44 year old woman having a Down Syndrome baby are about 1/65. If you do the math, the odds that Sarah, rather than Bristol, is Trig's mother are 1500/65 = 23 to 1. Just based on their ages.
Now throw in the fact that Bristol would have had to get pregnant IMMEDIATELY after giving birth to Trig and then give birth to her second child slightly prematurely AND, in the small town of Wasilla, where the heck would Bristol hide that first pregnancy? And was Sarah Palin for some reason wearing a pregnancy belly for several months to protect Bristol?
Prunella Buggerweeds, you're wrong about young women vs. older women and the likelihood of bearing a DS child. For one thing, 44 year old women get pregnant much less frequently than 17-18 year old women, so the RATIO or PERCENTAGE seems to show older women are more likely -- but the RAW NUMBERS show that there are more DS babies born to younger women - period.
Also, for Alaska specifically, there are MANY more births to girls 15-19 years of age than there are to women 40-44 years of age (the ages of Bristol Palin and Sarah Palin, in 2007-2008)(for the year I found, 2009): 1,106 for 15-19 y/o women, 152 for 40-something women.
Using your figures 1:65 and 1:1441, that averages to 1 DS child born to a young teen for every 5 DS children born to 40-something women.
Births by age in alaska, all races, 2009 15-19 1441/466+473+55+105+7 = 1,106 = .7675 ) 1 40-44 65/152+57+3+27+3 = 242 = 3.72 ) for every 5
It wouldn't have been that unlikely for Bristol Palin to be the one of those 1:1441.
Also, new research suggests that around 65 percent of women who start trying to get pregnant naturally at age 40 will be successful. That success rate goes down rapidly from 41 to 45, after which point almost all women are infertile. (Sarah Palin was 43 in 2007, and she's said to have had her tubes tied in 2001).
Actually KaJo, you're right that if we're going strictly by the numbers, fertility rates in those age groups matter. Actual Alaska birth rates don't - just fertility rates. To infer anything from birth rates you'd have to go into demographics - how many 15-19 year old females are there in Alaska, how many are having unprotected sex, how many are trying to have a child. Same for 44 year olds. Without all of that data, actual children born in Alaska to each age group is a useless number.
Let's leave the "said to have had her tubes tied in 2001" out of it unless you're willing to quote a reputable source.
So, let me refine my argument. Let's assume that 95% of 17 year olds are fertile and 50% of 44 year olds are fertile.
Of 10,000 17 year olds trying to get pregnant (or having unprotected sex), 9500 will get pregnant and 1/1500 will have a Down Syndrome baby = 6.33 DS babies per 10,000 women.
Of 10,000 44 year olds, 5000 will get pregnant and 1/65 will have DS babies = 76.92 DS babies per 10,000 women.
Statistical probability that Sarah is Trig's mother rather than Bristol: 76.92/6.33 = 12:1
Then, explain how Trig was born - IN A HOSPITAL - on 4/18/08 and Bristol's baby was born - IN A HOSPITAL - on 12/27/08 just 8 months later.
Yes, a woman can get pregnant soon after giving birth but she has to ovulate first and gestation is actually closer to 10 months, so now we have to factor in the likelihood of Bristol ovulating immediately after giving birth to Trig and then giving birth prematurely.
So, in order for Bristol to be the mother, we'd have to buck the 12:1 odds against her having a DS baby versus her mom having one, we'd have to explain how she didn't appear to be pregnant in the months before Trig's birth but her mother did, we'd have to account for two births 8 months apart and we'd have to invent some huge conspiracy theory in which hospital employees risk their careers to lie and say the Governor was the mother as opposed to her daughter.
This page indicates that for non-breastfeeding women, ovulation takes place on average 45 days after giving birth, with the range being 25 to 72 days. Meaning that at the earliest, if Bristol were Trig's mother she could have gotten pregnant May 13 and at the latest June 29th - with the average of 45 days putting conception at June 2nd.
Tripp was born on December 27th. Meaning the longest her "second" pregnancy could have been was less than 7.5 months, the likeliest length was 6.5 months and it could have been as short as 6 months.
If she were Trig's mother and she breastfed him, fertility rates are even lower. See this page.
That page says that ovulation can be delayed up to a year after giving birth if you breastfeed regularly, and even if your baby starts sleeping through the night ovulation usually doesn't start up again for 3-8 months after giving birth.
Now, since Bristol is NOT Trig's mother, we can't check whether she breastfed him.
But assuming she is his mother (which I don't for a minute believe due to all the factors that would have to align, which I went into in my previous post) ... then little Tripp was almost certainly premature.
Actually, statistics do indicate that teen mothers are more likely to have premature babies, and especially with their second child.
Yea, I think it is Courtney too. I think Elizabeth should have won Masterchef. The original premise for this show was fun, open to home cooks (the finale was Elizabeth and Courtney, two real home cooks), yet most of the contestants are chefs or sous chefs, students etc., already working in the business.
What the what the...
ReplyDeleteEnty ate the pot brownies again...
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DeleteHuh?
ReplyDeleteEJ--Magic Johnstons kid?
ReplyDeleteVereeee interesting.
DeleteBut doesn't EJ have an older sister? Dunno if that matters, too foggy to figure it out.
huh?
ReplyDeleteWhat the what?
Ray, I'm glad he liked my cookie baking on the car grill yesterday!
ReplyDeletesomeone on a reality show is shown as having a sister but in reality it is his mom
ReplyDeleteThere is a reality star who acts like a sister to a male child who is in fact her child.
ReplyDeleteSooo a reality star is actually her brother's mother instead of his sister?
ReplyDeleteI hate when you fuckers dont pass the plate around
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ReplyDeleteI can't even.
ReplyDeleteExactly
Deletesomeone's kid is not hers but is really her sisters
ReplyDeleteOh, hell...let's say a Duggar. There are enough of them that 10 of them could be each other's parent. Or something.
ReplyDeleteAre you kidding? Those duggar would not keep a child's secret. I love Jesus but those people are extreme...tthey'd so rat their child out
DeleteLeah Thompson/DWTS
ReplyDeleteMust be the Master Chef Courtney, her brother kept coming to the show
ReplyDeleteYou should go back to that blind and see the "Name The Signature Dish" "Food Phone Sex" posts :)
DeleteI think it's Courtney from masterchef too. She has a six year old brother they brought on the show a couple of times and she would go on about how he was her inspiration, blah blah blah. I thought it was an unusually large age gap but wasn't too judgemental because there's a 14 year gap between my youngest sister and me. Looking at the two of them I think she looks more like his mother than his sister.
DeleteDef Courtney. I thought that the whole time.
DeleteMust be the Master Chef Courtney, her brother kept coming to the show
ReplyDeletei mean not HIS but really his sister's
ReplyDeleteThere is a housewives of Vancouver and Jody claims her younger DAUGHTER is her own but in reality it is Jodys other daughter Mia who is the mom and had her very young--but that is daughter and no one cares about RHOV anymore
ReplyDeleteI still care! I wish they aired it in the states. Loving Melbourne in the meantime tho
DeleteAnd I didn't know that about Mia but totally see it!
DeleteAck, as a Canadian I really thought that franchise was horrid. And that Jody? I couldn't watch her at all- I watched to punch her! And I can sit through RHOA so that says a lot!
DeleteWhat I understand is the reality star has a son and a daughter and is not really the mother of the daughter.
ReplyDeleteJenelle (the skank) evans
ReplyDeleteif its another fucking master chef blind I am gonna go mad---who cares about these people!?
ReplyDeleteA = Little boy
ReplyDeleteB = Older female
It appears that B is the older sister of A.
In fact, B is A's mother.
A is son of B.
No? Should I use Jack & Jill?
Frankie and Ariana grande is the only pair that I can think of at all. And that is mos def not it.
ReplyDeleteI need a pot brownie to figure this shit out, damn!
ReplyDeleteThe conjunction screws it up. Mom to a child AND not his sister could mean she's mom the girl and not to the boy, or she's the boy's sister pretending to be his mother.
ReplyDeletePeople need to whisper their conjunctions better.
*mom to the girl
DeleteA reality star has a son who is presented in the show like her brother?
ReplyDeleteThe reality star is the mother and is saying that she is the sister. So, this can't be EJ, obviously.
ReplyDeleteA conjunction whisper campaign aimed at Enty.
ReplyDelete@FearN, first missile launched!
DeleteThat's what I'm sayin', FrenchGirl.
ReplyDeleteLOL, @7! Made me laugh.
ReplyDeletekpist- YES! Courtney for sure!Masterchef(hell those Producers''ve got their work cut out for'em)
ReplyDeleteHe kept running up & jumping into her arms & when she won,he came out after all her others siblings..separately.
Have some fun - go to that blind re nudes - and post your entry for "Signature Dish"
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ReplyDeletethen why would this Courtney character care to lie? and why dO I care about this nobody?
ReplyDeleteWell, there's a reddit thread that was created September 10th about whether that was her brother or son, so there you have 27 whispers.
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DeleteApparently, she's also a former skripper. Hmm...
ReplyDeleteI was WAY off about EJ---I thought she was much older---and she is a lesbian
ReplyDeletefun fact---she went with LL Cool Js daughter to the prom---both are lez
I just looked them up and it says they went together with their boyfriends so I doubt they're gay.
DeleteLindsey Chrisley -Sister/Mom 23
ReplyDeleteGrayson Chrisley -Brother/Son 7
Who?
DeleteWhen I saw promos for the show, I thought the dad was gay.
DeleteConjunction junction what's your function.....
ReplyDeleteYeah Enty needs grammar rehab.
@Kno Won, look@yesterday's BI#9- m/b her cuz they're obligated to put out her Cookbook now that she won.
ReplyDeleteStuff like this used to happen all the time, wasn't Bobby Darin his sisters kid, but she was so young their mom said he was hers…
ReplyDeleteJust to be different - Kim K is Kendall's mom - Kim born in 1980, Kendall in 1995 - you can certainly have a baby at 15.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Master Chef Courtney. That little boy is not her brother.
ReplyDeleteow, my brain
ReplyDeleteSo someone who has a very young brother and it's actually her son? But it's a reality person? Wow...this is like southern family reunions.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.reddit.com/r/Masterchef/comments/2fz17r/was_that_really_courtneys_brother/
ReplyDeleteMasterChef Courtney and the reddit on her brother
I dont think speculating about a childs parentage is fair game.
ReplyDeleteMom and child have the same dad.
ReplyDeleteThe Real Question Is: Why Couldn't Courtney Just Say It Was Her Son In The First Place???
ReplyDeletewhy lie???
I think it's the recent Master Chef winner.
ReplyDeleteRemember the old story about Jack Nicholson finding out his sister was really his Mother?
She'a nor his sister, he's her mom.
ReplyDeleteI had a new employee who claimed she was 10 yeaes younger than she was. I had to insist because, no way, plus I would be filing fraudulent paperwork.
Bristol Palin as mother to trig
ReplyDeleteForget it Jake it's Chinatown....
ReplyDeleteThis is that stripper who just won Master Chef. She had a different pair of Louboutins on each episode. I was wondering what the story was behind those shoes....until she almost "broke down in tears" confessing she works at a "Gentlemen's Club." Mmmmm-hmmm......she gets the side-eye for that and alleging she's got a younger brother. Shame on her for lying to him. But the truth always comes out.
ReplyDeleteKarma, Court.....Karma
Bristol Palin and the slightly challenged brother
ReplyDeleteHough's!
ReplyDeleteJack Nicholson!
ReplyDeleteThere was speculation back in 2008 that Trig was really Bristol's, which pissed off a lot of conservatives.
ReplyDeleteFred Grande and Ariana Grande! That's why she was so devastated by her grandfather's/ father's death!
ReplyDeleteHaha I kid, I kid.
If it was a few years back, I'd say Bristol Palin.
ReplyDeleteI was quietly hoping it would be a Duggar or Duck Dynasty bl.
ReplyDeleteBristol Palin, and not Sarah Palin, is the mother of Trig. Sarah had a tubal ligation after the birth of her youngest child Piper.
ReplyDeleteSo Bristol Palin had two kids in the space of like 2 years? Because she was pregnant on the campaign trail, too. And Trig was very young.
ReplyDeletemaybe the palins are irish?? irish twins?? is that what it's called..
ReplyDeleteI think it's Master Chef Courtney as well, it isnt impossible but kinda unlikely that her mom had kids 20 years apart and he looks exactly like C. It's also been said on reddit over a week, so not a new theory http://www.reddit.com/r/Masterchef/comments/2fz17r/was_that_really_courtneys_brother/
ReplyDeleteCourtney from Master Chef. I clued in when she said she moved away shortly after he was born. Lots of people do this...raise a grandchild as their own, for whatever reasons there may be to do so. It really does screw up the kid though when they discover the truth.
ReplyDeleteparents do this so their daughter can still go live her life and b/c they physically can
ReplyDeleteBristol Palin is the mother of Trig Palin.
ReplyDelete1) no one really knows Trig's birthdate. Sarah Palin announced his BD as 4/18/08, but there's no record -- anywhere (and she lies a lot). ALL records pertaining to Trig Palin are sealed, on order from the Gov at the time...Sarah Palin.
2) Bristol hinted on MySpace in July 2007 she might be pregnant. She didn't hint her MOTHER was pregnant.
3) If Trig was born Jan-Feb 2008, not April 2008 to Bristol, she could certainly have gotten pregnant soon afterward, and delivered Tripp in late December.
Wait. This could mean:
ReplyDelete- She claims to be the mother of two children but is only the mother of the boy and not the girl; or
- She is not actually her son's mother, but is his sister.
Which one is it, Enty/tern?
As for the Palin thing - it's extremely unusual for a very young mother to have a Down Syndrome child - the odds of a DS child increase dramatically with the age of the mother.
ReplyDeletepb..what if mother is on drugs like meth??
ReplyDeletethat teen mom that has the twins.. both are messed up, the girl has a serious eye deformity
also eric clapton was raised by his grandparents thinking they were his parents b/c his mother was young and his dad was a married Canadian jazz musician
ReplyDeleteI vote that youngest Palin baby is really what's-her-face Bristol's, not Sarah's kid. Or at least that rumor has been floating around forever.
ReplyDelete@sugarbread, of course there can be health consequences to the fetus if the mother uses drugs or alcohol or has other medical issues. However Down Syndrome is caused by a genetic mutation (usually in cell division in the egg) and older eggs are more likely to undergo this improper cell division.
ReplyDeleteFrom Wikipedia:
"Maternal age affects the chances of having a pregnancy with Down syndrome. At age 20, the chance is one in 1441; at age 30, it is one in 959; at age 40, it is one in 84; and at age 50 it is one in 44."
Bristol was 17 when Trig was born, and Sarah Palin was 44. The odds of a 17 year old mother having a Down Syndrome child are - rounding down from 1/1441 at age 20 - let's say 1/1500. The odds of a 44 year old woman having a Down Syndrome baby are about 1/65. If you do the math, the odds that Sarah, rather than Bristol, is Trig's mother are 1500/65 = 23 to 1. Just based on their ages.
Now throw in the fact that Bristol would have had to get pregnant IMMEDIATELY after giving birth to Trig and then give birth to her second child slightly prematurely AND, in the small town of Wasilla, where the heck would Bristol hide that first pregnancy? And was Sarah Palin for some reason wearing a pregnancy belly for several months to protect Bristol?
Makes no sense at all.
What about THAT family has EVER made sense?
ReplyDeleteBut yeah I get what you're saying.
ReplyDeleteWell whoever it is must have taken lessons from Beyonce!
ReplyDeleteBristol Palin. Oh wait.....that's old news and you said "recent".
ReplyDeletePrunella Buggerweeds, you're wrong about young women vs. older women and the likelihood of bearing a DS child. For one thing, 44 year old women get pregnant much less frequently than 17-18 year old women, so the RATIO or PERCENTAGE seems to show older women are more likely -- but the RAW NUMBERS show that there are more DS babies born to younger women - period.
ReplyDeleteAlso, for Alaska specifically, there are MANY more births to girls 15-19 years of age than there are to women 40-44 years of age (the ages of Bristol Palin and Sarah Palin, in 2007-2008)(for the year I found, 2009): 1,106 for 15-19 y/o women, 152 for 40-something women.
Using your figures 1:65 and 1:1441, that averages to 1 DS child born to a young teen for every 5 DS children born to 40-something women.
Births by age in alaska, all races, 2009
15-19 1441/466+473+55+105+7 = 1,106 = .7675 ) 1
40-44 65/152+57+3+27+3 = 242 = 3.72 ) for every 5
It wouldn't have been that unlikely for Bristol Palin to be the one of those 1:1441.
Also, new research suggests that around 65 percent of women who start trying to get pregnant naturally at age 40 will be successful. That success rate goes down rapidly from 41 to 45, after which point almost all women are infertile. (Sarah Palin was 43 in 2007, and she's said to have had her tubes tied in 2001).
Actually KaJo, you're right that if we're going strictly by the numbers, fertility rates in those age groups matter. Actual Alaska birth rates don't - just fertility rates. To infer anything from birth rates you'd have to go into demographics - how many 15-19 year old females are there in Alaska, how many are having unprotected sex, how many are trying to have a child. Same for 44 year olds. Without all of that data, actual children born in Alaska to each age group is a useless number.
ReplyDeleteLet's leave the "said to have had her tubes tied in 2001" out of it unless you're willing to quote a reputable source.
So, let me refine my argument. Let's assume that 95% of 17 year olds are fertile and 50% of 44 year olds are fertile.
Of 10,000 17 year olds trying to get pregnant (or having unprotected sex), 9500 will get pregnant and 1/1500 will have a Down Syndrome baby = 6.33 DS babies per 10,000 women.
Of 10,000 44 year olds, 5000 will get pregnant and 1/65 will have DS babies = 76.92 DS babies per 10,000 women.
Statistical probability that Sarah is Trig's mother rather than Bristol: 76.92/6.33 = 12:1
Then, explain how Trig was born - IN A HOSPITAL - on 4/18/08 and Bristol's baby was born - IN A HOSPITAL - on 12/27/08 just 8 months later.
Yes, a woman can get pregnant soon after giving birth but she has to ovulate first and gestation is actually closer to 10 months, so now we have to factor in the likelihood of Bristol ovulating immediately after giving birth to Trig and then giving birth prematurely.
So, in order for Bristol to be the mother, we'd have to buck the 12:1 odds against her having a DS baby versus her mom having one, we'd have to explain how she didn't appear to be pregnant in the months before Trig's birth but her mother did, we'd have to account for two births 8 months apart and we'd have to invent some huge conspiracy theory in which hospital employees risk their careers to lie and say the Governor was the mother as opposed to her daughter.
STILL. NOT. BUYING. IT.
This page indicates that for non-breastfeeding women, ovulation takes place on average 45 days after giving birth, with the range being 25 to 72 days. Meaning that at the earliest, if Bristol were Trig's mother she could have gotten pregnant May 13 and at the latest June 29th - with the average of 45 days putting conception at June 2nd.
ReplyDeleteTripp was born on December 27th. Meaning the longest her "second" pregnancy could have been was less than 7.5 months, the likeliest length was 6.5 months and it could have been as short as 6 months.
If she were Trig's mother and she breastfed him, fertility rates are even lower. See this page.
That page says that ovulation can be delayed up to a year after giving birth if you breastfeed regularly, and even if your baby starts sleeping through the night ovulation usually doesn't start up again for 3-8 months after giving birth.
Now, since Bristol is NOT Trig's mother, we can't check whether she breastfed him.
But assuming she is his mother (which I don't for a minute believe due to all the factors that would have to align, which I went into in my previous post) ... then little Tripp was almost certainly premature.
Actually, statistics do indicate that teen mothers are more likely to have premature babies, and especially with their second child.
But newp - still not buying it!
Prunella, your head is up yer arse.
ReplyDeleteYea, I think it is Courtney too. I think Elizabeth should have won Masterchef. The original premise for this show was fun, open to home cooks (the finale was Elizabeth and Courtney, two real home cooks), yet most of the contestants are chefs or sous chefs, students etc., already working in the business.
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