In the first part of July, in a town just under 20 miles away, Joelle Lockwood, a 30 year old mother of two left a friend's house to walk home and was never seen again. Both women look similar. Both are single mothers of two kids. They are roughly the same age and both disappeared under similar circumstances in the same general area. Kristy leaving in her car is a little harder to imagine. She did leave her phone at the bar when she left that night, but how did the person get her to leave the car or was the person already in her car? Joelle was walking so that is much easier to do. I do know that if a third incident happens in that part of Indiana to a similar single mother that no one will want to leave their house alone. What will also be interesting to see if it does happen again, how quickly a third disappearance happens. There was a 37 day gap between the first two. Will that timeline speed up?
Maybe we have us a serial killer here.
ReplyDeleteUgh, those poor women and their poor children. :(
ReplyDeleteit gets weirder - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/joelle-lockwood-and-kristy-kelly_n_5698229.html
ReplyDeletethere may be half a dozen missing women from this area.
This is terrible!
ReplyDeleteReally uplifting stuff here this am :(
ReplyDeleteThis is either a serial killer (typical in the US, with or without guns) or a Thelma & Louise story, probably the former, hopefully the last.
ReplyDeleteWhen did CDaN become Dateline?
ReplyDelete((two lovely BLS today... breaking out the scotch and razor blades))
ReplyDelete@FSP, so true, this is distinctly Dateline-ish. I even read it in my head in the voice of that Dateline guy.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit to really liking Dateline on OWN.
ReplyDelete@Meme, I know it's a serious and sad topic, but love the scotch and razor blades comment. I'm going to use this one day, thanks to you.
ReplyDelete@ Vera, I love Dateline. I like most of the crime shows. I also watch Snapped (mostly woman coming unglued and offing their husbands/boyfriends/lovers). I tell my husband I am gathering ideas!
Yup serial killer. Haven't had one in a while. I wonder what the time period is between big stories of serial killers.
ReplyDeleteWell let's just rule out who it isn't. black male. Never to my knowledge been a black male serial killer. Typically white male, 40's married, possible blue collar worker.
@Sherry - http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2010/07/meet_6_black_serial_killers.html
DeleteWait, wasn't the Atlanta Child Killer a black male?
DeleteI agree that this serial killer probably isn't a black male, probably not a female either, but it does happen.
John Malvo and his stepson.
DeleteDerrick Todd Lee terrorized the Baton Rouge, LA area in 2002.
DeleteThe first one sounds more like a drunk-driving-and went-into-a-ravine sort of a thing....
ReplyDeleteAt least one of the other missing women sounds like the estranged hubby, as well. Another was a heroin addict who told her mother she didn't want to be sick anymore, could be an OD, run off, or any number of things.
DeleteI love the true crime stories on cnn.
ReplyDeleteWhenever I watch Dateline, I realize I am officially old. But, dang that show is addicting. LMAO with the CDAN is now Dateline statement.
ReplyDeleteBut, seriously. I hope the women turn up safe and sound.
@Sherry. What about Wayne Williams of Atlanta?
ReplyDeleteRailway Killer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81ngel_Maturino_Res%C3%A9ndiz
ReplyDeleteI love the true crime shows too, especially on that ID channel (forget the rest of the name). Especially like "who the (&%$ did I marry?"
ReplyDeleteYes, the Atlanta child murderer was black.
I hate stories like these, but we all know how they usually turn out. My heart goes out to their families.
ReplyDeleteHere's a list of 57:
ReplyDeletehttp://blackpeoria.wordpress.com/list-of-black-serial-killers/
Flirty - Malvo was a mass murderer, not a serial killer.
ReplyDeleteI think Sherry was speaking statistically it is less likely to be a person of color, or female for that matter.
ReplyDeleteKeith Morrison. Best of all of the Dateline presenters, with the most engaging voice of them all. I too am addicted!
ReplyDeleteMy dad says he could listen to Keith read from the phone book! :-D
DeleteAnd yes, this is terrible. And @gemini is right: it is statistically less likely, though obviously it does occur.
ReplyDeletenah @Gemini, @Sherry states "never to my knowledge" & she was just plain wrong in her weird comment.
ReplyDeleteA serial killer or an incompetent police force?
ReplyDelete@Vera thank you for sharing the link. How heartbreaking to read, particularly the mom of the newborn, and also the oldest case, with the eyewitness.
ReplyDeleteWe are die hard Dateline lovers. Keith Morrison could read the phone book and I'd be intrigued.
Dateline, 48 Hours, Forensic Files, love 'em all. Feel guilty that other's misfortune makes for entertaining TV though.
ReplyDeleteAnother- me too i am fascinated by WHY killers do what they do, what happened to them to make them this way. Of course some are just batshit.
DeleteThese towns are right around where I grew up and where my in-laws and sister in law live. Nothing ever happens like this...ever.
ReplyDeleteAnother plot for Criminal Minds. Very sad.
ReplyDeleteLove my ID Channel and any other channel that plays similiar types of shows. Keith Morrison is the best with his narration. My fiancee gives me a bad time and tells me that I'm a bit too obsessed and he's afraid. I go to sleep with the ID channel on and sometimes he wakes up to hearing screaming or other weird noises and is ready to jump up with the gun when he realizes it is just me with the tv on. LOL
ReplyDeleteI freaking love Dateline too :)
ReplyDeleteMy mom, sister and I watch it and compare notes
The first, Joelle, they have a person of interest. An ex, I think. They just don't have a body to arrest him. These are not likely related at all, but it make for a good story, I guess.
ReplyDeleteThe estimate is that there are 35 serial killers operating in the US at any given time.
ReplyDeleteStatistically, white, male, late 20's to early 30's, low achiever describes the majority of US serial killers. Hannibal Lecter is a fantasy.
More than one investigator on the Atlanta Child Murders case believes that Wayne Williams killed a few of those children but nowhere near all of them.
This was on HP last week. Wasn't there possible one or two more women that had gone missing as well that were a little farther away but still in Indiana?
ReplyDeleteVery sad and I can only hope for a happy outcome even if that is unlikely. I still remember the moment it was announced that Elizabeth Smart had been found and how shocking that was.
Rest in peace to murdered/missing women. I def think connected. Will timeline shrink and will killler escalate? From my bazillion hours of watching real crime shows and criminal minds, yes and yes.
ReplyDeleteI can't take Keith Morrison seriously after seeing Hader parody on SNL:
ReplyDeletehttps://screen.yahoo.com/dateline-real-life-crimes-000000895.html
Here is a list of crime shows that you can stream on Netflix. The blogger also gives a brief description of each of the shows.
ReplyDeletethis article talks about current estimates but they are way more common than people realize http://www.creators.com/opinion/diane-dimond/serial-killers-how-many-are-there.html
ReplyDeletealso the FBI is mapping the supposed long-haul trucker killers on the highway serial killer list http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/april/highwayserial_040609 the map mid-page is very sobering in terms of just how much of this is going on at any one time and this only applies of course to remains that have actually been found, not remains that are actually there
I read an interesting article yesterday about a former Mexican cartel member who said he'd probably killed at least 250 people but wasn't sure because "only psychopaths count their victims". He admitted to a lot of rapes and murders (well along the lines of the epidemic of disappearances in Ciudad Juarez and surrounding areas & clearly he is only one of many perpetrators) Not sure what factors came together to create so much sociopathy in Mexico but since the cartel is moving in on the drug trade in the US in every major city I am afraid we can expect these kinds of crimes to increase exponentially. I was watching a Drugs Inc. show last night where a cartel member was saying that there were tons of victims of the cartel in the US all the time but they were not reported because the bodies were so mangled that they were all john does. I think solely because of this the drug war needs to stop and drugs need to be put in a framework of decriminalization before it is way too late, apparently the goal now is that cartel members are trying to have their children born as US citizens to really establish a home turf in the US.