Monday, July 07, 2014

Today's Blind Items - Sexual Harrassment

One of the more popular shows of all-time had some behind the scenes drama which would not be allowed today. It just wouldn't happen because of the internet and TMZ and at least on television sets, the atmosphere is more business like. On movie sets, all of this still goes on. The show was #1 for lots of years. Sitcom. Really popular. The male star of the show got to be A+ list on television and has never dropped below a B. Not that great of an actor. His movies have for the most part done poorly. On the set of this show he was king though and he made it very clear to any woman who wanted a line on the show was going to have to sleep with him. He really got to like one of his co-stars and demanded more and more from her and when she finally stopped giving in to his sexual demands he had her fired and made it look like she quit. When she did leave, another actress on the show always put up with everything he did but since the show ended they have not spoken. Ever. Not a word because of the way he used her and the things he made her do. He acts like he is progressive but he was and still is a tool. He just doesn't have a platform any longer to be as rude as he once was.


147 comments:

  1. Cheers Ted Danson Shelly Long Kirstie Alley

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    1. I thought Danson as well.

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    2. I thought Cheers from the get-go, too.

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    3. It's a little known fact....

      Bingo.

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    4. Exactly who I was thinking. I love it when I have a guess and scroll down to see it's also VIP's. Feel like I already won :)

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  2. cheers, with shelly long leaving?

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  3. Bill Cosby? Dont think Seinfeld has done movies

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    1. The Bee Movie.

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    2. Also, Elaine was the only female on the show.

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  4. Cheers - like that guess

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  5. Kelsey Grammer, Frasier.

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  6. I'm with VIP on the Ted Danson guess. Makes sense with acting like he's progressive.

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  7. Married with kids. Or cheers

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  8. Dang. Thought it was Seinfeld until it got to the fired part. I like the Cheers guess.

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  9. My first thought was Ted Danson too. But then again he was in those 3 Men & a Baby movies and they did well, just not much else.

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  10. Cheers
    Ted Danson only movies 3 men...after, flops
    Shelley Long- fired
    Rhea Perlman- acquiesced
    ( jk)

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    1. Holy Mother! VIP agrees??!!!!
      Rhea part is still the joke, though :-D

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  11. I thought of Cheers, too.

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  12. Not that great of an actor? I beg to differ if this is Ted Danson. He killed it in Damages.

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    1. And Bored To Death, Lotta!

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    2. @Sunny, fist bump.

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    3. Love Bored to Death! Miss that show.

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  13. Like the Danson guess, VIP.

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  14. Ted Danson - not that great of an actor? Pfft. Have you never watched 3 men and a little lady. Classy.

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    1. I don't know if it reached the cinematic heights of Three Men and a Baby, but it wasn't for lack of trying

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  15. Everybody Loves Raymond

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  16. Anonymous10:19 AM

    i cant see shelly long puttin up with this.

    or am i just confusing her with diane (her character)????

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  17. I wonder if he acted like that on the set of 'Becker' too.

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  18. Hate to think of Ted like that. He's been with Mary Steenbergen a long time.

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  19. Anonymous10:21 AM

    @violet

    there u go again with the goodies.

    YUM! :^D

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  20. Anonymous10:21 AM

    @violet

    there u go again with the goodies.

    YUM! :^D

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  21. King of Queens. He supposedly raped Tila Tequila on the set of that movie with Adam Sandler. Deacon's wife quit/left.

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  22. Home Improvement
    Tim Allen
    Pamela Anderson
    Patricia Richardson

    Not perfect fit with Tim's rankings but eh it was my first thought.

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  23. I was thinking of Tim Allen. Wasn't Pammy on his show?

    I suck at blinds.

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    1. Hold the front door!!!
      Meanie just made me have thinks & everything.....

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    2. @Meanie yeah she was there for the first 2 seasons and then was replaced by Debbie Dunning.

      The other actress who put up with it could be Patricia or Debbie. I picked Patricia only because the BI seemed to me to imply actress #2 was on the show for it's full run (though now I can see that's not actually explicitly stated).

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    3. @WC, stop that! Thinking is not allowed!

      @Riven,Tim Allen is an asshole of the first kind. I used to know someone who "dated" him and if there's an asshole sexist blind, I always think him.

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  24. this does sound like 3's Company.
    'cept for the death part.
    i fukn loved that show!!!!
    Ritter was the greatest Dad since Problem Child!

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  25. Anonymous10:27 AM

    @katie

    WAIT...WHAT? ((stunned))

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  26. Tim Allen is an interesting guess.

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  27. Pam Anderson left after the second season and was replaced by Debbie Dunning. However she did return for an episode in Season 6.

    Now I want to know what Katie is talking about!

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  28. Ted Danson is a very good actor but the descriptions aren't always accurate, of course. He just never struck me as rude or a bad guy....tough believing this could be him.

    My first thought was Charlie Sheen but I don't think it's him either upon further review...

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  29. It was a blind item revealed on here a while back about Tila Tequila and how she is so messed up. Lot's of stuff was revealed but one of the things revealed was that she was raped on the set of I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry

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    1. Tila Tequila reveal

      I never saw this mess of a movie. Did Tila have scenes with just one of the dudes?

      I can't see Leah Remini putting up with that shite though.

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  30. Can't be Tim Allen. Toy Story and The Santa Clause were huge successes.

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  31. I don't like the Cheers guess. There was a lot of camaraderie on that set (minus Shelley?), and Ted and Kirstie have spoken well of each other since then. Plus he and Mary Steenburgen seem to have one of the more stable, normal marriages in Hollywood. I know nothing about King of Queens...don't really feel Seinfeld fits either without the major cast change.

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  32. But when did Tim Allen ever act like he was progressive, if anything Allen did not mind being considered a bit of a red neck if not very much his character on his show, if I recall correctly, who was not progressive, just a typical guy with a strong wife setting him straight ha ha

    Ted Danson is the one out there supporting this and that cause and this and that Democratic candidate with the wifey right there beside him.

    I would read this as Kirsty who replaced Long putting up with his antics because she needed the gig.

    If it is him, he must behaving on CSI now that TV sets are all business. Also now he is the one that needs the gig.

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  33. I always knew Ray Romano was evil.

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  34. Oh Zach just posted saying Kirstie has spoken well of Danson, but then that's is different than actually speaking TO him. Though hard to imagine Kirstie not wanting to rock the boat.

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  35. Though I guess the use of the word Tool is perhaps a clue?

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  36. Can't see whoopi Goldberg putting up with a toolbag like danson foras long as she did....if this is him

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    1. Tricia, Whoopi dated Ted after Cheers was over.

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    2. @ TriciaS - thank u for coming up with a verrreeeee good point.
      Lots of us <3 Sam!

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  37. I also thought of Tim Allen.

    "Home Improvement."

    Pam Anderson, then how many other Tool Time Girls?

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  38. Totally thought Cheers / Danson - Long - Ally. It all fits except that I never heard he was a jerk.
    I lived the show. Becker too
    Progressive- I figured a crack at his past relationship with Whhopi. (Progressive being Hunk with woman who's not a typical beauty.)

    But..
    IDk if Ted = asshole.
    He was also on Larry David. And Larry would never like an asshole. Never! Except for Cheryl Hines.

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  39. Tila had scene with sandler, she was one of his three women in a ménage a ..quatro I guess..
    So is the assulter supposed to be sandler? Can't see that.
    Kevin was in the scene too, as sandler gets rid of the girls...
    Dunno, but don't the Kevin this BI answer

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  40. This makes me think M*A*S*H with Alan Alda, but cannot think of a second female...and Loretta Swit didn't leave the show.

    Oh well, guess I'll cosign VIP's correct answer.

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  41. I like the Cheers guess!

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  42. Teds an avid environmentalist/ progressive

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  43. No way its ted d. No way. I like the tim allen guess.

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  44. @ steamy..oh I know that, just saying...if he was a tool then he'd prob still be one...and I just don't see it

    @sincerly....Muah:)))

    I'm throwing in Alan Alda / MASH/ Loretta swit

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    1. People grow and Cheers was his 1st time with power. It can skew a moral compass. I don't want it to be right but I can see it if I squint.

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  45. Progressive because he's one of the original feminist supporters(like Phil Donahue)

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  46. Frasier - Kelsey Grammar

    Bebe Neuwirth as the quitting costar? She didn't appear on the final season.

    And maybe Jane Leeves as the actress that hasn't spoken to him since? Says here she's against a Frasier reunion. http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2011/06/jane-leeves-uses-british-logic-to-prevent-a-frasier-reunion/

    And this is also interesting - The cast did reunite in 2013 but the men were in Chicago and the women were in LA... http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/10/frasier-cast-reunites-thanks-to-entertainment-weekly/

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  47. Andy Griffith. We all know how Aunt Bea got that role!! And didn't Gomer quit, then Gueber stepped up.

    Mattlock = very progressive

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  48. wasn't married w/ children a known sleeze fest though??
    all the females had to sleep w/ either al or the son to get a role?

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  49. @' grincheuse..didn't see your guess!!! I put it out there too..and she did 8th season...but not sure of replacement
    And Alda movies have done well ...especially in the 70's

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  50. What does "He just doesn't have a platform any longer to be as rude as he once was" mean? If I read it as meaning he no longer has a show then Ted Danson and Tim Allen are out inasmuch as they are currently starring on CSI and Last Man Standing respectively. That would also leave out Ed O'Neill (Married With Children, Modern Family). If it means they no longer have number one shows then all three remain candidates. The only candidate without a show at the moment is Kelsey Grammer. A reference to "platform" could indicate KG's most recent show in which he played a politician. Alternatively "tool" could reference TA and Home Improvement.

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  51. I actually thought of Thicke's dad...what's his name? I forgot?

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  52. He made that blonde chick, Julie (that played Kirk Cameron's girlfriend/fiancee) feel creeped out.

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  53. Guys it's not Ted. He's one of the good guys, he's a very good actor, Shelly left because she had miscarried and was pregnant again. I know someone who worked with him and says he's great.

    I was thinking The Shat.

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  54. Sorry, I don't believe a word out of Tila's mouth.

    And since she is a known whore (was it here I saw the Twitter DMs of her booking a session?), it would only be considered Theft of Services, not rape.

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  55. I thought Shelly left to do movies, she won an Emmy for Cheers & believed all the hype about her, thought she would be a movie star. Rhea just hated her, because she acted like a diva.

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  56. Rape is rape @Count, even if it's a prostitute.

    Tim Allen is SO not a progressive. I saw a few minutes of this year's Last Man Standing, and he's managed to change the format to basically be a right-wing propaganda platform. I was surprised, as there's really hardly even any plot anymore, he actually stands there and gives conservative political speeches, all in the "role" of the Dad. Bizarre.

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  57. My vote is for Kelsie Grammer. Frazier was #1 forever, he definitely was the "King" of that show, and he's had drug problems.

    Cheers was a long-running #1 show, but no way was Ted Danson the "King" of it. Ted was just a supporting player to Cliff Claven.

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  58. It's Cheers, this is common knowledge!

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  59. Neither Kelsey Grammer nor Tim Allen is politically progressive. They both had very serious drug issues back in the day but I've never heard any (credible) person (unreal housewives don't count as credible) saying they were bad guys and both have gone on to do more projects that were very popular since their initial forays.

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  60. Pam Anderson sat out the 2012 reunion show for H.I., and she'd turn at a door opening, so that's telling.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2035715/The-cast-Home-Improvement-reunite-happy-family-shot-12-years-ended.html

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  61. I thought of "Cheers" and Ted Danson, too, but he DOES seem like a good guy so I'm rethinking it. And he IS still on, what..."NCIS"? AND, Kirstie's a bigmouth.

    Doubtful that it would be Kelsey (if we're specifically talking about "Cheers" and not "Frasier") since he wasn't an original cast member,,and I would just never think of him as the "king" of "Cheers," either.

    But yeah, the "progressive" thing sounds like TD. Isn't his big pet project saving the oceans, especially near his home in Malibu? Not to mention dating Whoopi.

    Hmm...so it's back to the drawing board, are we? I dunno.

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  62. Tits or stars? TITS OR STARS?

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  63. Frasier - Kelsey Grammar: Seattle is in King County and Mercedes Ruehl for the "quitter".

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  64. This sounds like Ted and Cheers, which upsets me because I love Cheers and I happen to really like Ted in all of his roles...

    He did do blackface, though, which still makes me cringe. And he IS progressive. Cheers also had a lot of bit actresses, either Sam's dates or bar patrons. Frasier's girlfriends were almost all known actresses like Felicity Huffman, Virginia Madsen, Laura Linney, Patricia Clarkson. Only a few were unknowns and even so, far from the "sexy tart" girls Cheers always had coming along.

    Damnit.

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  65. @Figgy: Not according to Philadelphia courts. SFW NY Times article

    It is the same as getting a front end alignment, taking your car for a test drive and not going back to pay for it. When you put a price tag on your body, you lose the ability to be raped.

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    1. Bullshit count.
      Finding a source to back you up does not change the smell.
      No one works 24 seven.No one who offers sex for money offers buffet, each act costs and not all acts are offered by Choice of the worker.
      To ignore restrictions and enforce compliance is Rape.
      If you, drugged out and broke,offered to blow the dealer for a hit and after agreeing to those terms, he buttsexed you instead, you were raped.
      Even though compensation was agreed upon, You did not offer that service. So, Rape.

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  66. Hmmm,,,it sounds like Kelsey,,,not sure who the actress is, but the blind does not say her pseudo replacement put up with it ,,simply another actress on the show,,,so they could have been concurrent at some point. Remember the blind where he had sex with a fan who approached him whilst his wife waited outside the room?

    It could also have been danson,,,it says his movies in the most part did poorly. The key words being "the most part" However I suspect it's Kelsey grammer,,,which probably means it's not..lol.

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  67. ...but if Shelley was fired and hated Ted, why would she come back for another episode towards the end of the series in the early 90's?

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  68. @Crila: Trying to bump the Q rating after movies not doing well? The money? To get another crack at Norm?

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  69. I'm really liking Ted Danson for this guess, mainly because it seems contrary to his public persona.

    He also was in a (brief) gem of a series, Bored to Death. Absolutely hilarious.

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    1. Jinx, Surfer (no autocorrect. Not Suede)
      That show was perfectly cast and funny as hell

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  70. ted danson is an excellent actor. seriously the guy can do anything.

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  71. "he was once and still a tool". Tim Allen, Pamela Anderson

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  72. "Tool" Time, Tim Allen
    Didn't he also have some kind of a "king" schtick?

    the "progressive" descriptor is off though

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  73. I seem to remember Shelley Long quitting because her film career was taking off. "The Money Pit," "Irreconcilable Differences," "Troop Beverly Hills," anyone??

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  74. MARTIN

    THE SHOW

    MARTIN LAWRENCE

    THE ACTOR

    THE LADY WHO PLAYED GINA QUIT BECAUSE OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT

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    1. Martin had a very public breakdown. Get has very serious issues

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    2. Nope. Hit movies. Bad Boys. Etc

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  75. Jinxy, jinxy Sunny. Great minds!

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  76. I think maybe PR Princes may actually have this one. Recsinding my original guess.

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  77. Rob Reiner - All in the Family.

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  78. Kelsey Grammar is not a progressive. He is one of the rare "out" Republicans in Hollywood.

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  79. Yup, pr nailed it!!

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  80. I was thinking all these guess weren't right and couldn't think if a better guess then... PR nailed it!! Totally Martin Lawrenece!!! Well done!!

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  81. Ted Danson was amazing in The Onion Field, about a true life murder case in the 1930's in California. He was an up and coming actor with that role, but his wife had a massive stroke, and he took care of her.

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  82. How has Martin Lawrence ever been a progressive?

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  83. Home Improvement's Jonathan Taylor Thomas was the voice of the young Simba in The Lion KING.

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  84. Home Improvement's Jonathan Taylor Thomas was the voice of the young Simba in The Lion KING.

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  85. Home Improvement's Jonathan Taylor Thomas was the voice of the young Simba in The Lion KING.

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  86. Sorry for the repeat posting.

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  87. I doubt John Ritter. Somers was the star of that show and I doubt she would quit because Ritter came onto her. She left because she asked for more money and ABC wouldn't give it to her.

    Doubt it Ted Danson. Cheers started off as a Shelly Long show, she was the biggest name thanks to Night Shift. Not to say his attitude might have changed later and thought he had a chance with her, but she left because of money and thought she would be successful in movies (which she sort of was for a wee while)

    Grammar actually does fit. But Bebe Neuworth wasn't actually replaced and she still came back and even did Frasier. And no female cast member from Frasier quit or was replaced.

    My guess is one of the guys from Full House. Alanis wrote a freaking song about how one of them was an asshole. I could see him going through the temps actresses.

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  88. Bored to Death was great. I could watch a show that is just Ted Danson Stoned. That is it. Just write an episode as Ted Danson gets stoned and goes to 7/11. Ted Danson gets stoned and goes to a baseball game. Ted Danson gets stoned and goes to a strip club. Ted Danson gets stoned and goes to a Taylor Swift concert. Ted Danson gets stoned on Willie Nelson's tour bus. And on and on.

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  89. Uh. Um. Nothing much to add other than this GQ piece on Cheers anniversary.

    Highlights:

    Rhea still won't talk about Shelley.

    Ted & Woody got high, played hooky, took shrooms.

    Kirsty stepped in as f@ck coach for Woody.

    Ted is endowed.

    Read here:

    http://gawker.com/5946993/ted-danson-is-well-endowed-life-changing-revelations-from-gqs-excellent-oral-history-of-cheers

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  90. That aint the only instance, Steampunk. California had a go round a year or 2 ago trying to keep money from a rape victim fund away from sex workers. I think they failed, but they fought like hell to keep whores away from that money.

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    1. Wrong headed is wrong headed Count. Hooking has been around since the first erection. We are dealing with Thousands of years of negative attitude about sex for cash.
      These men and women provide a service, for which they are paid. Instead of being treated as tax payers with the right to protection under law.Instead They are vilified and dehuminized for choosing to do what they want with their bodies. THEIR bodies.
      Society needs to catch up to reality. No holier than thou has more rights than anyone else. They need to stop acting like they do.

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  91. If the blog is accurate it was a long running and #1 rated show. That eliminates King of Queens and makes the possibilities of Tool Time; Fraser; Cheers; Friends Cosby more likely. Not too many of those types of shows

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  92. Sounds like All In the Family, but Archie Bunker is dead. Ted Danson is still on TV with CSI. With the use of the word "king", it makes me think of King of Queens.

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    1. The dog walker! I couldn't think of another female on !king who " kept quiet " I can't see jerry stiller putting up with that kind of crap happening around him. He's Old School and could crush Kevin James like a grape. :-\

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  93. Shelley Long left Cheers because she thought she had a hot film career, and Cheers was not number one when it started.

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  94. It now sounds like The Cosby Show with Lisa Bonet leaving the spin-off, A Different World. Many have reported of Cosby's sexual escapades.

    No female lead left Frasier, and Kelsey Grammer is a staunch Republican/libertarian, so no way is he considered "progressive."

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  95. Martin was not a number one show and all his problems were well-documented.

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  96. Happy Days.
    Henry Winkler
    Co star that quit--Linda Pearl
    Erin Moran

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  97. This is a really interesting blind because there are enough shows that 'almost' fit.

    Cheers would seem like it but it's just hard to believe it's Ted. Plus I think Danson's a decent actor even though I know that's a subjective call.

    Can't be Frazier, he's republican. Can't be Martin since Tina quitting the show for sexual harassment was all public, and she continued filming in the final season on the stipulation she didn't have to do any scenes with Martin. Can't be Tim Allen because he's not known for progressive causes. I also for some reason can't see Pam Anderson leaving for that reason.

    Cosby would seem to fit the shoe better than any of the others.

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  98. @Steampunk: I'm with ya on modernizing and legalizing whoring. With the tests and pharmaceuticals available today, the health risks involved could be greatly minimized, even for whores offering bareback.*

    Only way for it to be legalized is to take the right to vote away from women. If there one thing broads don't want to happen is whores fuckin up their legal monopoly of pussy. Legal sex, w/ a chick you can pick off a website, a phone call and couple hundred bucks away would greatly reduce a dude's nonsense tolerance.


    *This Truvada drug, that reduces HIV-1 transmission risk by over 90% is now said to also minimize herpes transmission by 36%. $1300/30pills w/o health insurance is pretty steep though. I didn't see if it was a daily or per use drug.

    If it is per use, then that, 30hr Cialis and the morning after pill would be a great weekend. Especially if they all mix well w/ beer and weed.

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  99. Stop being a wussy. If you can't get your whipped ass buddies to pass legislation that is fair and equitable for sex workers, that's your dick rubbing the rock, not mine. You think I don't know its woman against woman? Puhleeze.
    Drop your cock , pick up your socks and do whats right. Prove your prick power and shove that legalization act down their sanctimonious throats : D..

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  100. Just saying, I don't mind a thoughtful conversation. if we have it this late...no one will know and your rep as a deviant letch will be safe. : )

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  101. @Steampunk: Hey, I was hoping they slipped a repeal of the Amendment that made women people into the Patriot Act, but it didn't happen.

    I'm hoping once Chris Christie gets this sports wagering taken care of, he legalizes whores. Them the 2 things keepin AC from being Vegas. AC even has a beach, no reason for Vegas to be so much better. Well, they had better gangsters build it, I guess. Them Philly mobsters were a mess.

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    1. Snicker* They don't need the Patriot Act..Their doing it through "Health and Pro Life" Pretty soon, a girl can't have a period without being charged with ending POTENTIAL life.
      Christie, jeeze. Whats the world coming to, that THIS dude was the best the Mob could scrape up for office?
      Have we fallen so short that we're reduced to a man that has no discretion?
      FFS, ban cameras and call it a security issue, I mean Come ON!

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  102. Alan Fucking Alda. Total tool.

    Doesn't fit the blind, but he's a complete asshole.

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  103. What about Wings or Scrubs?

    Especially Wings with Farrah Forke leaving? I don't know the details, though.

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  104. @Steampunk: Christie was a Federal Prosecutor who made his bones in a high profile corruption case where they took down a bunch of Jersey Shore mayors and a couple shady Orthodox biddness men. Dude aint a mob guy.

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  105. Family Matters - Urkel

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  106. Tim Allen - Home Improvement was my first thought. Pam Anderson & Debbie Dunning fit into the story. "His movies for the most part have done poorly" was the tip off clue, yes The Santa Clause was huge but he followed with some real stinkers. "tool" is the other clear clue.

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  107. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air himself and his Auntie Viv numero uno "smell ya later"

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  108. @Henriette -- surely Cosby?

    Heard he's one nasty SOB (even if Fat Albert was lovable). I was too cool to have TV then, but the program was massive--like, OMG, a middle-class black family sitcom that's just like a middle-class white family sitcom--everyone's equally mediocre!

    It was all Cosby's idea, too, & the man was treated like a god. I can easily imagine white TV execs looking the other way if he helped himself to the more tawdry perquisites of godhood. After all, Jupiter paid any mind to a girl saying "no."

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  109. @Jerkula: He might not be official street mob, but he's still plenty "mob" if you get my drift. You have to be just to get your hands dirty in Jersey politics, the place is kind of a different planet compared to other areas of the country. Price of entry requires organized "mob" shadiness on that level.

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  110. @el80ne: He was a Federal Prosecutor who made a huge, headline grabbing case busting pay to play politicians in NJ. He got elected as a Repub in a predominantly Dem state because of that and the fact that EVERYONE hated that shady Corzine mutha fucker, who was a real embarrassment.

    Feds have been slaughtering dirty politicians here in NJ for the past decade. Mayors of Trenton and Hamilton, and some ancillary officials, have gone down in the past year.

    P.S. NJ GOP govs always go further in their political career, Keane, Whitman, eventually Christie. Dems leave office in shame, Florio, McGreevey, Corzine. Only good Dem we've had in my lifetime was Codey, who filled in when McGreevey resigned. Would have been very happy if that dude stuck around, rather than strep aside for Corzine.

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  111. This is one of the best blinds in a long time. It sounds like Ted as Tim and Frasier just don't fit.

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  112. Bill Cosby

    Cosby Show was no. 1 for 5 years between 1985 - 1990.

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  113. Cosby would definitely be considered A+ despite making Leonard 6, Ghost Dad and Meteor Man to name a few. Lisa Bonet for the actress.

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