Today's Blind Items - She Ticked Off The Wrong People
Do you want to know how you can go from an A list mostly movie actress who everyone calls the next big thing and has directors lining up to work with you and then have it all gone in an instant? And when I mean all gone, I mean it was all gone. There is no more working for her at all. No straight to on demand. No guest spot in television. She went from everything to nothing because she ticked off the wrong people. There was no one that was left unscathed. Our actress hit her box office peak in one of the biggest movies of all time. It was also the beginning of the end and she wasn't invited back for the sequel. She was that toxic. She slept with directors and producers of both sexes and then she would talk bad about them to the next person she slept with. She was a pain to work with on every set she ever stepped foot on and was always late and usually half in the bag. She had really large weight fluctuations and whenever anyone would cross her about any of her issues she would pull out her phone and call one of the people she was sleeping with and threaten them if they didn't do something about the person giving her grief. It was as if the entire world banded together to keep her out of any other movies and no one has ever gone back on it. There was one brief attempt by our actress to mount a comeback in a film about a half decade ago after a five year absence, but the movie was bought by a company specifically so it would never see the light of day.
Debra Winger or Sean Young
ReplyDeleteSoooo she was the it girl in the early 00's?
ReplyDeleteMcGowan?
ReplyDeleteJeanine Garafolo fell off although she attributed to mental illness.
ReplyDeleteRizzo from Grease? I don't know tbh.
ReplyDeleteS**t my timing is so out it doesn't bare mentioning.
DeleteI was thinking Travolta
DeleteDebra was the big thing in 80's so not her
ReplyDeleteSean young neither
McGowan is a nice guess
ReplyDeleteAlicia Silverstone? I've absolutely no idea.
ReplyDeleteMcGowan was on Once Upon a Time
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to Bridget Fonda? Everywhere to Nowhere.
ReplyDeleteFonda married Danny Elfman who does all the soundtracks for movies and tv and never had to work again.
ReplyDeleteI hate these ones, I can never think of one person who has truly disappeared! Really I'm just commenting so I'm subscribed when one of you smarter peeps figure it oot
ReplyDeleteThere was a documentary made about Debra Winger, "What happened to Debra Winger". Basically she left HW as she got older, it had a great interview with Ebert in it. HW doesn't have good roles for women, & it gets worse as they age.
ReplyDeleteOk the way to get this is to locate the biggest movie which obviously had a sequel and the chick was recast.
ReplyDeleteMegan Fox?
This is what I thought.
DeleteIt's the major weight fluctuations thing that gets me...Amanda Bynes?
ReplyDeleteBiggest film of 2004 and work from there.
ReplyDeleteWas Easy A half a decade ago?
ReplyDeleteMy first thought was Kirstie Alley, but she doesn keep getting shows, even though they don't last very long.
ReplyDeleteBryce Dallas Howard.
ReplyDeleteTwilight for the sequel she was kicked out of
Bryce was the replacement. But i think the girls was Lafarbe or something. Googling...
DeleteRachelle Lafevre
DeleteBut she was on that crappy Under the Dome show last year, so probably not her.
DeleteKathleen Turner?
ReplyDeleteoooh, her weight did fluctuate due to her Rheumatoid Arthritis but she continued to work...: /
DeleteLinda Fiorentino? I don't know that she was ever A list, but she was in Men in Black (but not the sequel) and Dogma. Was in a movie in 2009, but nothing after and the most recent movie before that was in 2002.
ReplyDelete@Karen and @Candyland, Linda Fiorentino seems like the best guess here. She really was the next big thing and went nowhere pretty quickly. Rumors of being difficult. Not cast in Men in Black sequel despite having a prominent role in the first. Some weight issues in more recent years, it seems. And she made some obscure little film with Drea de Matteo in 2009. Only problem is her last film role before that was 7 years prior, not 5. Then again, Enty isn't always exact.
DeleteOoh I like this. I liked her
DeleteLinda Fiorentino made the mistake of being married to James Cameron when he wanted to be married to Suzy Amis. That's how she became considered "difficult" on set
Delete@TTM you're thinking of Linda Hamilton, but there's another one who doesn't work enough considering her talent. I don't think she fits this as well as Fiorentino, though
DeleteGreat guess Karen.
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DeleteFrom IMDB bio "Director Kevin Smith said in his DVD commentary for Dogma (1999) that Linda wouldn't even speak to him some days and, in retrospect, he wishes he had given the part of Bethany to Janeane Garofalo instead." Interesting.
DeleteZach, londa hamilton too had mental issues. Bipolar i think, and she self medicated with booze. I think she well now, with meds.
DeleteUuuuuuu, she was the worst part of Dogma. I tried hard to tune out her terrible flat acting
DeleteBryce was the replacement for Twilight, the orginal was Rachel something, who is now on The Dome tv show.
ReplyDelete@Karen - the Linda Fiorentino guess is an interesting one...she fits better than anyone I can find!
ReplyDeleteDebra Winger told her father she was going to Hollywood to be a movie star and he told her she wasn't pretty enough to be a movie star. She said, "Well I'll be an actress, then."
ReplyDeleteRachel Leigh Cook
ReplyDelete"one of the biggest movies of all time"
ReplyDeleteHmm....all time?
Gone With The Wind
Titanic
Star Wars
The Sound of Music
E.T.
Or is that "all time" in intern years, meaning the last 10 minutes?
or Camilla Belle. Big movie being Jurassic Park; The Lost World
ReplyDeleteSean Young is also a great guess
ReplyDeleteOMG I just saw her IMDB page and remember her from the Last Seduction Linda F is a great guess!.
ReplyDeleteHighest grossing films of the 00s:
ReplyDeleteMission Impossible II
H Potter I
LotR, Two Towers
LotR, Return of the King
Shrek 2
H Potter II
Pirates, Dead man
Pirates, World's End
Dark Knight
Avatar
Toy Story III
I think Linda F is the best guess so far - I really thought she was in MIB II - but IMDB says no!
ReplyDeleteKevin Smith publically called Linda Fiortino a pain in the ass.
ReplyDeleteHer IMDB page really fits this the best also.
maybe Thora Birch. Big movie was American Beauty.
ReplyDeleteHairy, thora was the actress whose home life was so toxic- think incest- she needed time to get well from that. Sad.
DeleteI like Karen's guess of Linda Fiorentino.
ReplyDeleteOooh ooh ooh - from a review of her last movie (Once More with Feeling) on IMDB:
ReplyDeleteDon't waste your time unless you need to get to sleep, and want to see how Linda gained like 50 lbs.
Yup, this sounds like Linda Fiorentino. She was fantastic in The Last Seduction which had everyone in HW clamoring after her, but her divas ways (mostly) killed the career momentum she gained from that movie.
ReplyDelete@TTM, Linda Fiorentino wasn't married to James Cameron. That was Linda Hamilton from Terminator.
ReplyDeleteMarty McFly's girlfriend from Back to the Future was recast for the sequal, but no idea if the actress was A-list.
ReplyDeleteThere's another one I always wondered about. She supposedly didn't return because she had to care for her ill mother. I think she now or recently has owned her own car dealership. She really did disappear after the first BTTF, and I don't know who in her right mind would turn down the sequel. But she appeared at the anniversary event with the cast and director. I don't think there were any feelings of animosity there.
DeleteOne of the biggest movies of all time?
ReplyDeleteI'm not feelin' it.
I loved Vision Quest, Linda was great as Carla.
ReplyDeleteDogma is in my top 10 movie list, though I didn't know it was she playing Bethany.
Yeah, this has to be Linda Fiorentino. Last Seduction was huge for her, then she did Jade which wasn't so good, and I guess MIB but not the sequel. And where is she now? No where.
ReplyDeleteMen in Black did make some bucks
ReplyDeleteTTM - it was Linda Hamilton (Terminator) who was married to James Cameron, not Linda Florentino. I recall on one of the commentaries, I believe Kevin Smith for Dogma where he trashes LF, that she also had some "acting" problems. Notably she was fansatic on the first take but rapidly went downhill. Often scenes need multiple takes and generally there are two types of actors who work: those who can "match" their prior takes (loved by all directors on a schedule) and those who offer up a different "interpretation" with each take (loved ny arty Directors). Someone who does neither is a problem.
ReplyDeleteHi Zach, just read imdb and I agree, Claudia Wells doesn't fit. Always wondered about her recasting too.
ReplyDeleteExtended discussion of Fiorentino's career arc: http://lebeauleblog.com/2014/01/04/what-the-hell-happened-to-linda-fiorentino/
ReplyDeleteHey TTM, not sure if you know this but Cameron was married to Hamilton. Not Fiorentino. Or Carter. Or Hogan. Or Be-Linda Carlisle. You get the picture.
ReplyDeleteTop Gun. Kelly. McG___. Mc Ginnes?
ReplyDeleteShe def gained weight and I "think" she was a partier. And didn't she turn out to be in a lesbian relationship?? So she'd sleep with both sexes as mentioned..
Awesome guess Karen! Totally fits. I loved her in Last Seduction.
ReplyDeleteLinda Hamilton looks really rough these days....I think she does hard drugs.
ReplyDeleteDerek if Skynet kept employing liquid nitrogen death machines to kill your kid, you'd use drugs too.
DeleteLinda Hamilton is bipolar (which could make her "difficult") but she continues to work. Nothing huge but fairly consistent. Also, she was involved in more than one of the "Terminator" movies.
ReplyDeleteHA!!!!
ReplyDeleteShelly Long fits. The blonde who was married to Clint Eastwood, Sandra Locke also fits.
ReplyDeleteLinda Hamilton is bipolar and took a break because of it, not because she was blacklisted.
((I wonder if TTM knows of her error))
ReplyDeleteLol
fiorentino it is...
I don't know if this is the answer but Alison Lohman just seemed to disappear quite suddenly. Her last movie was in 2009.
ReplyDeleteShe quit acting to be a mom. I watched Big Fish the other day and googled her.
DeleteRenee Z.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first read "She ticked off the Mrong People", I was thinking of Miranda Cosgrove. But obviously, it's about a much older actress. Funny.
ReplyDeleteholy crap
ReplyDeleteshe sure did piss off someone whoever it is
Years ago when I was sick with Crohns I had my hospital room next to a "VIP" room. I coul hear this woman screaming the nastiest things to the nursing staff and a lot of "don't you know who I am" being thrown about. I asked one of the nurses who was it, she couldn't tell me for hippa reasons. But one night I went into the hall with my iv pole and found Linda Fiorentino in the next room. She also had Crohns apparently which, as I sadly know, can cause major weight fluctuations.
ReplyDeleteJust my story....
I'm with Karen. This sounds like Linda Fiorentino. According to my honey Kevin Smith, she is a heinous bitch and demanded he buy her a car using the already sparse budget when she went to work on "Dogma". I was sad to hear the stories, because she is very likable on screen. Loved her in "After Hours".
ReplyDeleteFrom IMDB bio "Director Kevin Smith said in his DVD commentary for Dogma (1999) that Linda wouldn't even speak to him some days and, in retrospect, he wishes he had given the part of Bethany to Janeane Garofalo instead."
Delete@bored---you always have good stories girl!
ReplyDeleteDerek, I don't always post, but when I do I make sure I make it good!
DeleteI'm 99.9 percent sure this is kelly mcgillis. She was huge after top gun, seriously hot property, and it pretty much ended after that. Her wiki page says she was " discouraged " from acting and took a break for a few years.
ReplyDeleteNo sequel
DeleteHow about Samantha Morton?
ReplyDelete@Froggy England, according to IMDB, Kelly McGillis is still working.
ReplyDeleteGreat guess Sincerely!
ReplyDeleteKelly McGuiness, I might have misspelled that but your get the point.
*reaches in and grabs a personal story*
Kelly lived in Key West back in the mid 90's, she owned a restaurant near Duval St. My housemate at the time, Brandy, used to go to Kellys' house and babysit her child/children...I can't remember anything BUT nice things being said about her back then...I think this was around '96
Thanks Heather.
DeleteAnd interesting lil tidbit u shared.
Damn it! McGillis...not the beer :/
ReplyDeleteOff to see what she's done lately...
Linda Fiorentino's last movie Once More with Feeling (2009) was a Sundance Selection in 2009.
ReplyDeleteAlthough she does fit, having your movie go to Sundance isn't exactly keeping it from the light of day.
Loony bins, that's interesting. Who else could it be? Someone younger?
DeleteIsn't Key West where Kelly and her husband ran the prostitution ring as well?
ReplyDeleteI think Linda F just got old. She had a good 10-15 year run.
ReplyDeleteSticking with my Thora Birch guess. American Beauty made her a huge star. She was taking meetings with the likes of DeNiro. She was noticeably bigger in Ghost World (luved Ghost World) then her career just petered out. Rumor was it was her ex porn star father who was the problem. "Winter of Frozen Dreams" was supposed to ber her comeback. Got lots of hype cuz she had lots of sex scenes. Then the movie failed to get distribution. So, yeah. Thora Birch
Sean Young did try to make a comeback about five years ago, then sabotaged it with her charming appearance at one of the awards shows. She was always cray cray, and James Woods can attest to that. I think it is her or Debra Winger, who was also known for being difficult.
ReplyDeleteNVM. just noticed the part about the sequel. I will self banish for the rest of the day.
ReplyDeleteNo self banishment, hairydawg! Though you could watch the boring video of the day to make penance for your sins.
DeleteTop Gun doesn't have a sequel - not Kelly McGillis.
ReplyDeleteI love Debra Winger. I think she's one of the best actresses ever. She was in many hits and voluntarily left showbiz, but she was great in Rachel's Wedding a few years back.
ReplyDeleteSooooo, NOT Linda Hamilton, then? Thanks, see, I said I was gonna wait for the smarter peeps but STILL couldn't shut myself up.
ReplyDeleteLinda Hamilton got a huge divorce settlement from Cameron. She didn't really need to work again. Or in her next few lifetimes.
ReplyDeleteLF is a good guess but good gravy, did that whiny little bitch Kevin Smith ever work with anyone he actually LIKED besides Ben A?
ReplyDeleteHe seems pretty thin-skinned.
debra winger was difficult but i don't think this is her.
ReplyDeletewas fiorentino ever A? and 'men in black' was THAT big a movie??
Michelle Pfeifer or Kim Basinger?
ReplyDeleteI don't understand how any actress could allow herself to get so bad that an entire industry hates her. It's so stupid.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I agree it's Linda F. She was beautiful and talented and could have been Jolie before Jolie. I wonder if she has regrets?
I've met chicks like this. One chick kept bad mouthing all these dudes who "fucked her over". By the 3rd or 4th one I realized they were all dudes who fucked her, and I realized that I didn't want to be on that list. Only thing that is more of a tell to run away is when a broad talks about all her exes who called her crazy.
ReplyDeleteRight. Because people who stereotype all of a gender based on their experience(s) with an ex(es) are rrrrreallly really rare. Never even happens here all the time.
ReplyDeleteI dont know if that is a shot at me, TTM, buy if I painted all women with a brush of being like my ex, i'd be doing bunghole stretching exercises in preperation for going gay.
DeleteI take no shots, count. I am just hear to misremember Lindas
DeleteI thought this was easy - Megan Fox - replaced after bad mouthing Producer - notoriously hard to work with...and that is coming form Shia La Douche...was the next hollywood it girl..now she is soooo not it.
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ReplyDeleteWhoever said Linda Fiorentino is a genius. Men in Black was her peak, and she was nixed for the sequel in favor of Lara Flynn Boyle. Her last movie was "Once More With Feeling" in 2009, but it debuted at Sundance and it looks like it died there: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1259580/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ql_9. Before that was Dogma in 2002. Weight fluctuations: http://content6.flixster.com/rtactor/28/62/28624_ori.jpg
ReplyDeleteShe really fucked a good career. Guess she was more like her Last Seduction character than we knew.
Megan Fox? No. She was in the Transformer's sequel, she's been active (like This is 40, Jonah Hex, Jennifer's Body) and she's set for TMNT.
ReplyDeleteLinda F is a great guess.
"She was beautiful and talented and could have been Jolie before Jolie. I wonder if she has regrets?"
ReplyDeleteI agree @Essie. She really could have.
Geena Davis?
ReplyDeleteZellweger
ReplyDelete@Penelope, ha and ha again about Kevin's thin skin. I love him, but you're right.
ReplyDeleteOh, and to answer your question? Yes, he also liked Jason Mewes. Ha one more time!
Winger was a brilliant actress. Not her, she left of her own accord.
ReplyDeleteWhere the HELL is VIP, dammit?!
ReplyDeleteHow did I miss this post? I swear my computer doesn't show them and then all of a sudden missing blinds magically appear.
ReplyDelete@Heather: I had a friend who worked at her restaurant (and was prolly helping her get coke) and at some point he said they lived together...I wonder if we know some of the same people. Know a Johnny P? A sweetie but not very attractive. Always talking shit so hard to tell if he is/was telling the truth half the time.
Looks like Linda F is the answer to the blind to me.
You guys CSI'ed the crap out of this one. I would never have come up with her on my own, but all signs point to Linda F.
ReplyDeleteLMAO! And Linda does sound like the perfect fit.
Delete@ray nicolet...who quit acting to be a mom?
ReplyDeleteWell acting quit Nicole kidman but she Is a mom.
DeleteI agree with Count Jerkla. Ditto for men. If a guy tells you he's got a lot of crazy exes and has been screwed over by all his exec---run!
ReplyDeleteI'm torn between the Linda F guess and the Thora Burch guess.
Linda Fiorentino is a great guess. She was sexy as fuck in The Last Seduction.
ReplyDeleteThe doc about Debra Winger is called "Searching for Debra Winger". She is not very likeable in it.
ReplyDeletehttp://entertainment.ca.msn.com/movies/galleries/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=29301078&page=9
ReplyDeleteLinda Fiorentino looked all set to return in the sequel to the 1997 hit sci-fi comedy "Men in Black." After all, her character Dr. Laurel Weaver had taken over from Tommy Lee Jones' secret government agent K as business and romantic partner to Will Smith's J. But Fiorentino, who has a reputation for being a difficult actress to work with, was simply dropped from the sequel, allegedly because the cast and crew did not want to work with her again. Smith's character dismisses her absence by saying that Laurel had returned to her job as a deputy medical examiner.
I wonder what would have happened if she had gotten that Oscar many people felt she deserved for "The Last Seduction". She wasn't eligble for nomination because the movie was shown on cable first. It's too bad, I really liked her and found her much more interesting that Julia Roberts or Sandra Bullock.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000400/board/nest/145686730?p=2
ReplyDeleteKatie Holmes played Rachel Dawes in Batman Returns 2005 but not in sequel?
ReplyDeleteAlso, her character died in a bomb explosion, didn't she? Maybe the reference to "tick" and "gone in an instant."
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