Isn't this the same person who said that vaccines are filled with toxins and that those toxins contribute to autism?
Back in 2009 she gave an interview to Time and said, "People have the misconception that we want to eliminate vaccines. Please understand that we are not an antivaccine group. We are demanding safe vaccines. We want to reduce the schedule and reduce the toxins. If you ask a parent of an autistic child if they want the measles or the autism, we will stand in line for the f--king measles."
To me, that seems like she is anti-vaccine.
She also had this to say back in 2006.
"Right before his MMR shot, I said to the doctor, 'I have a very bad feeling about this shot. This is the autism shot, isn't it?' And he said, 'No, that is ridiculous. It is a mother's desperate attempt to blame something,' and he swore at me, and then the nurse gave [Evan] the shot," she says. "And I remember going, 'Oh, God, I hope he's right.' And soon thereafter -- boom -- the soul's gone from his eyes."
I think Jenny is trying to distance herself from the anti-vaccine label she has given herself and if she wants to, then I think she just needs to say she was wrong rather than trying to convince everyone she has never been anti-vaccine.
Bat...meet shit.
ReplyDeleteShe just talks to talk she has no idea what comes out of her mouth when she says it.
ReplyDeleteMy only understanding of the link between vaccines and autism is that at the 18 month mark, where children are given the MMR vaccine, symptoms of autism also become recognizable in said children. Hence the (mis)conception that the two are linked. I have friends who are very opposed to vaccinating their children, as their middle son is severely autistic. I should ask her if she vaccinated the oldest daughter, who's an honour student on a full scholarship at university.
ReplyDeleteIt's akin to staying that eating cereal induces the onset of tantrums. These things occur on a time continuum - no link. Aside from Jenny being the missing link.
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DeleteSince that study and the doctor were so thoroughly discredited, and that's been a little while now, I would doubt very much that anyone is waving the anti-vax flag publicly.
ReplyDeleteExcept dumbasss Kristin cavalari
Delete@Meanie Rhysie LOL! You owe me one keyboard cleaning, ma'am!
ReplyDeleteIf your own doctor curses at you it might be a sign that you're an asshole. She made that 'soul-less' comment in front of her own child? I know many autistic adults and children, and they are not soul-less. She's such a twunt.
@Leek - I only know one autistic child but she is amazing. As far from soul-less as a person could be.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was common knowledge that she is anti vaccine? But hasn't her child 'recovered' anyway and never was autistic apparently?
Yeah, leela, i noticed the swearing too. She makes it sound like a scene from Rosemarys Baby! Lol. If your dr ignored your concerns and curses at uou and the nurse gives baby the shot anyway, id find new Dr. Anyway, she isnt terribly bright or intellectual, her erronous blathering is par for course.
ReplyDeletethe first quote does not sound like she is antivaccine. i dont know what enty is reading. i still dont like her.
ReplyDeleteI have a question.
ReplyDeleteIf ur child is sick the day of their vaccination appointment, do u go ahead & allow the shots, or wait till they're better?
Doctors already hold off on shots for sick children and modify them for children with compromised immune systems.
ReplyDeleteHer first quote sounds like she's pro vaccine if they are made safer.
ReplyDeleteThe vet won't even vaccinate your dog if it's running a fever. I would hope a pediatrician would do the same (or get a new one as was previously suggested).
ReplyDeleteJenny McCarthy doesn't need to give advice on Autism. Every family's experience is so different... she has no business placing herself as the authority on this topic. And Warecat... you should not get your kids vaccinated while they are sick.
ReplyDeleteGotcha.
ReplyDeleteThnx for ur answers.
That's y I asked.
My daughter's pediatrician tried vaccinating her while she was sick.
She has a new pediatrician.
@Violet Maybe, I'm not sure if the child has recovered.
ReplyDelete@TTM I didn't realize that the study had been discredited.
Hey Leeky! There you go, maybe not everybody knows, here is one story on it:
Deletehttp://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/
Good call. Enough already. She's a bim. Not Dr Oz.
DeleteGood Call Warecat... Doctors and teachers are great, but I think parents have to be the number one advocate for their kids.
ReplyDeleteHey TTM! Thanks for the link. Interesting article - and the doctor was stripped of his license.
ReplyDeleteI stopped reading after "Jenny says". John likes to run. Jane likes to skip. Jenny likes attention.
ReplyDelete@TTM - that study was doing the round big times when my eldest was due his routine 18 months MMR in 1998. It was a very hard decision to have to make back then - the study was not discredited until many years later.
ReplyDeleteI read the new interview. She says she had only asked that her son get one vax shot at a time and that she was never anti vax. She lies like a rug.
ReplyDeleteShe's full of shit, just trying to keep her day job.
ReplyDeleteShe's an idiot. So completely opposed to "toxins" while puffing on that e-cigarette and pumping her face full of Botox and silicone.
ReplyDeleteShe's an idiot who knows nothing about how rigorously vaccines are actually tested, among other things.
ReplyDeleteA recommended read.
@TalksTooMuch, wish that this were true. So many still wave that flag, either not knowing or not caring that the doctor and his 'study' have been debunked. Pisses me off how stupidly anti-science society has become.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'm not with the majority here and my kids are vaccinated per state rules. I have TWO family connections with autism after the MMR. One set of twins, the other a baby. Don't ever get your kid vaccinated when they have an infection or even the sniffles. I believe in setting your own schedule with your kids. I would t let them have more than one vaccine at a time. But, it's up to the parents. Dr. Tenpenney has some fascinating facts about vaccines.
ReplyDeletePut off the MMR shot till 3yrs instead of 18 months. That is all.
ReplyDeleteCan this hag get hit by a bus now? Does anyone think it's awfully coincidental that the rise of measles cases and POLIO cases have this twit lying about her position? Yes, she is LYING. Does she think no one remembers her rants on Larry King or getting her PhD from Google?
ReplyDeleteAll these anti vaccine twits are getting their wish and can now sign up for measles. UC Berkeley has had two students in the last four months with measles and are now giving out vaccines.
I don't know if I'm angrier about her insulting the public into thinking they can't youtube her stupidity or that hag Bababwa Waawa for putting her in people's faces every morning.
She would rather her kid get potentially deadly measles? Well she can come to my neighborhood, where there is an outbreak of measles due to people being ignorant, and take her chances. My 2 month old just got her first shots today and I can't express how relieved I am to have that little bit of protection. Anti-vaccers are just afraid of their child being perceived as "retarded" (I HATE using that word but autism is not a death sentence!).
ReplyDeleteJenny McCarthy is an annoying, vapid douchebag.
ReplyDeleteNo dammit there is no connection between autism and vaccines. All of the current research is pointing to in utero or genetic causes but the research has been hindered for years by mothrrs who were not the most honest subjects, which is kind of understandable.
ReplyDeleteAmericans get more mercury from their air, water, and food than they do from vaccines but they won't get outraged about that.
Snap Dragon and others: Years ago I read a book, "Trust Us, We're Experts". It was amazing all the shit Dr's will attest to when they are being paid to say it. Nothing out there that can cause them to lose their license for doing so.
ReplyDeleteCome on Jenny! You're a fucking idiot if you don't think we can go back and read/watch what you said.
I know someone who's vocal about being anti-vaccine. She doesn't think it's right to fill her childrens bodies with all those unknown chemicals.
ReplyDeleteShe's a smoker who has smoked throughout all 4 of her pregnancies...
Run Donnie Run!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIn Europe there have been lots more evidence linking vaccines to both autism and ADHD, so here people are a lot more careful. Especially since the swine flu vaccine gave so many children narcolepsy 3-4 years ago. Horrible! Even governments in both Italy and Sweden now admit the vaccines were toxic and untested. Also theyre investigating the connection between the shot given at three months and SIDS.
ReplyDeleteI'm in the UK and no there is no more evidence at all.
DeleteAlso my son had the swine flu jab and flu jab every year due to having cystic fibrosis and he is fine.
The good far outweighs the bad. No link has been proven.
@Bitterblondin...uh, no. No there hasn't.
Delete@Aeol - How many died from the measles in your neighborhood?
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ReplyDeleteWell, come to the U.S. and catch measles, whooping cough, and polio. I live in the SF Bay Area and there are now cases of what looks like polio happening to children and the measles are on the rise, especially at the colleges. I feel like I'm back in the dark ages.
I wonder how many people don't know that the gender of a child is determined by the father's sperm? We'll call that King Henry syndrome. ;)
ReplyDeleteI believe that in my lifetime the true biological cause of autism will be discovered. As science does long term studies with pregnant women and pre-pregnant couples, they will figure it out. Age of the parents has pretty much been eliminated, as has birth order. Not sure where prior contraceptive use appears in the studies, haven't really been keeping up on the issue.
Vaccines are not absolutely fool proof, that's accepted science. As with every drug on the market, there is an accepted reaction rate, and those reactions vary from body aches, nausea, rash, to more severe neuro problems. Again, you can have those same types of reactions to any medicine you are prescribed and many of the ones you can buy over the counter, including aspirin and cough syrup. It's not a conspiracy, it's just biology. Humans, for all their similarities, are also very different to each other.
Jenny McCarthy is a KNOWN anti-vaccine advocate.
ReplyDeleteI spent time babysitting an autistic child and his mother, who was on the anti-vaccine boat as well, showed me picture of her and Jenny McCarthy, at an anti-vaccine conference.
This is Jenny trying to distance herself from her scientifically WRONG stance.
She claims she "cured" her son's autism with diet and behavioural therapy that costs thousands of dollars per month. As a well-paid "celeb", McCarthy can afford to say that, but she's been giving false hope to parents of autistic children for years now. She's a vapid, silly celeb who read something somewhere and jumped on the train.
ReplyDeleteCompare that to Temple Grandin.
I am fully vaccinated.
ReplyDeleteHad I had children, they would have been fully vaccinated.
BUT
I believe the PRESERVATIVES used in vaccines these days could be causing problems. You can ask for vaccines that are like the ones used on me when I was a child (I'm 44). I also believe in spreading out the shots & making sure your child is well when they are immunised.
Uh... OK. So the measles isn't deadly. Unless you have a really poor immune system.
ReplyDeleteLike they thought smoking wasn't bad for you until the 80's. :)
Anti-vaccine means you don't give your children them and you're against others getting them too. The reason vaccines are so scary is because not all children are going to react well to them. It's a small percentage but there is no way to tell if your child will fall in that small percentage. Having said that you can't give autism in a shot - that's just stupid.
ReplyDeleteJust curious: how does Jenny's cure for autism cost "thousands per month"? All she does is exclude gluten, wheat flour and sugar from her son's diet. How is thst bad and/or expensive?
ReplyDelete@Bitter, I didn't say the diet cost thousands (though hiring a nutritionist and a chef to prepare an all-organic diet can be pretty costly), I said the therapy costs thousands. She hired personal tutors, an "autism coach" guy who said his methods were proven to "heal" or "better" autistic children, another therapy coach who dealt with exercise, etc. Those simply aren't resources available to the average parent.
ReplyDelete@Diana Maras - how is it stupid? I got malaria from my malaria vaccine shot. And my brother too. And my mother. Why wouldn't one shot of heavy vaccine possibly cause autism in a still-developing young brain?
ReplyDeleteDo we have anti-vac trolls now?
ReplyDeleteToo late though innit - bitch already caused all this damage. Kids everywhere have fucking hooping cough and shit. Just admit you were wrong and then leave this fucking planet.
ReplyDeleteHer shpeel has always been
ReplyDeleteGreen The Vaccines -- she is not misspeaking now.
www.NVIC.org
Max's Story
(don't worry, it has a happy ending)
Why is it people always assume the only path parents relied on to reach their own conclusions was Jenny McCarthy? She used her celebrity status to get a national conversation started.
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@Bitter of course it's stupid - you're not being given an autism shot! I find your claim about "Europe" being more careful because of those extensive studies you've all done to be very interesting. The ONE study linking autism to vaccinations was done by a British doctor. We do get lots of information here across the pond too, you know. So I very much doubt that there's a body of evidence as you suggest, and we've simply never heard of it. Really? Not ANY of it?
ReplyDeleteWho really decides on vaccines after reading a Jenny Mcarthey book? I don't think she should be blamed. Her son had issues and I'm sure she looked into everything.
ReplyDeleteI think she just looked into Google @Della
ReplyDeleteHow can vaccines cause ADHD when the guy who created it says it never really existed? http://www.naturalnews.com/040938_ADHD_fictitious_disease_psychiatry.html
ReplyDeleteMy brother in law is almost completely disabled, about 85% now, from polio. He was a March of Dimes Poster Child. Get your goddamned kids vaccinated, you selfish turds.
ReplyDeleteJenny Mc is a cunt.
And what of all the "poster children" of the vaccine injured? VAERS exists for a reason. Name calling is childish. Every mature adult is capable of coming to their own conclusions and the opinions of strangers are completely irrelevant.
ReplyDeleteJenny is exhibit 1 of why celebrities should entertain and keep their opinions to themselves. She is a moron and her only talent is her body and what she will do with it and what she will let any man do to it.
ReplyDeleteI have zero interest in hearing the opinions of celebrities.
My daughter has non verbal autism and ADHD,she is 5,can't speak more than a few words.when she was on her vaxx schedule,she was put on an adjusted one because I was critically ill at the time and my husband simply forgot to take her for her shots so she got some late (he's a dumbass,I know ha)
ReplyDeleteShe didn't get the MMR until she was 3,she was non verbal and showing her autism traits well and truly before she got that shot.
It's bullshit.
All the studies so far (formal results should be out in about 2 years) are showing autism appears to be presenting itself in utero in the first trimester.the study's make sense and are really promising when it comes to developing an early intervention approach starting from birth.
Correlation is not causation. If it were, each of us, not to mention 100 out of 100 children would be suffering from it rather than the 1 in 50 that currently do.
ReplyDeleteOpen your eyes a little.
These vaccine-injury deniers are pretty implausible.
@misch we already knew she lies like a rug! on her back! thats how she has a career! BA-ZING
ReplyDeleteMercola and Natural News are both crackpots, full of misinformation and crazy. The Natural News guy has a video series explaining Bill Gates' evil plan to commit genocide/depopulation with vaccines and GMOs.
ReplyDeleteAnd, in Natural News' top stories, there are articles questioning whether the lunar eclipse means the End Times are starting; and the standoff at the Bundy Ranch is the second American Revolution.
FYI - What I wrote sounds a bit harsh, but all harshness is directed at those sites, not people here that have cited them.
Re: Vaccines and Autism.
ReplyDeleteNot only was Andrew Wakefield's study completely disproven and retracted, the lengths he went to are horrifying.
Wakefield didn't just say there was a link, he invented a new disorder called Autistic Enterocolitis. His plan was to start a venture with a father of one of the boys in his study, in which he would create tests that get customers via litigation-driven testing. And before this study, he applied for a patent for a rival measles vaccine he'd created.
The study only had 12 kids, some of which were brought in by lawyers in the UK, who were preparing to sue makers of the MMR vaccine. They also paid Wakefield over £400k.
As for the kids, their results were falsified. Obviously none had Autistic Enterocolitis, and were put through awful, invasive tests for no good reason. Three of the kids had no autism of any kind, but were noted as having it. There's more, but I've typed enough for one evening. :)
Sans Dr. Wakefield or any other of any individuals perceived "crackpots", VAERS remains a resource for the afflicted.
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ReplyDeletewow,i didn't realize Jen McCarthy was soo controversial because Ive never listened to or paid her any heed.On anotha BI I said she just got engaged & wished her luck & laughed how surprised she was she'd bought the ring. The way she flip-flopped,she should run for Office.