If a man sexually assaults his adoptive daughter when she is seven and marries his step-daughter do you think those are the only times he ever did anything sketchy with kids? He managed to keep from doing anything else his entire life? I don't think so. In an open letter to The New York Times, a very brave Dylan Farrow talks about Woody Allen and his sexual assault of her when she was seven. The portion below comes towards the end and she is name dropping people who say they love Woody.
"Today, I consider myself lucky. I am happily married. I have the support of my amazing brothers and sisters. I have a mother who found within herself a well of fortitude that saved us from the chaos a predator brought into our home.
But others are still scared, vulnerable, and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. The message that Hollywood sends matters for them.
What if it had been your child, Cate Blanchett? Louis CK? Alec Baldwin? What if it had been you, Emma Stone? Or you, Scarlett Johansson? You knew me when I was a little girl, Diane Keaton. Have you forgotten me?
Woody Allen is a living testament to the way our society fails the survivors of sexual assault and abuse.
So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.
Are you imagining that? Now, what’s your favorite Woody Allen movie?"
Mia supports Polanski to this day.
ReplyDeleteI have no doubt that what Dylan says is true, I am just sorry that no one heard her voice when it happened.
I've boycotted his movies since news first broke about him and Soon Yi.
ReplyDeleteI never consciously boycotted his films, but over the years, I had no interest anymore. Woody seems totally skeevy, especially with this new info. It's definitely a purposeful boycott now.
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ReplyDeleteHe's a disgusting perverted little cretin.
ReplyDeleteThere were a lot of jokes when Would he married Soon yi, I felt sick. Subsequent articles " mentioned " how seldom he was in Mia's home and how he had his own place; how suspicious and jealous Mia was of his time...
ReplyDeleteFuck! I was manipulated by ' he sure the hell did' ' s team of publicists. All of em! Sick slick bastards!
People that are citing Mia getting replaced as a reason for her ' vendetta' against woody. You just found out your boyfriend has been molesting your daughter and fucking the young woman you took into your home and heart
Deleteand the show must go on?
She quit because of these things and you use it to dismiss her...
Just heartbreaking. I started to read the letter last night, but got interrupted. I'm off to read the full thing.
ReplyDeleteMy best friend Matt was sexually abused starting at age eight and no one believed him. WTF is wrong with people.
ReplyDeleteHe never got over it. I'm sure it was a contributing factor to his od and rampant drug use.
I hope she feels supported. Matt never felt that no matter what we said. Child sexual abuse is so many kinds of wrong.
And yet even after this letter he'll probably win his Oscar and get a standing ovation. There is something seriously wrong with that.
ReplyDeletePoor girl. I don't know what happened, but she was hurt by something.
ReplyDeleteMy heart broke when I read her letter yesterday. Woody Allen is a monster.
ReplyDeleteI boycotted his movies as soon as it came out about Soon Yi, and I had been a big fan of his work. Unfortunately he will continue to be celebrated in Hollywood. Disgusting, despicable little POS.
It will be interesting if Cate wins the Oscar...
ReplyDeleteShe's a lock. It will be interesting to see what commentary about it.
Delete@Ray Cate is a lock.
DeleteSo in Hollywood it's perfectly acceptable to molest children but being gay will ruin your career? That is all kinds of sad.
ReplyDeleteShe must have been tight tight and the only strange woody could get. Sick fuck b
ReplyDeleteI wish there were vigilantes for child predators. Red paint thrown on them every time they stepped outside, for the lives they ruined. Others would turn away then, they wouldn't be able to file it away and hide from the truth,. I bet the accolades would stop then...
ReplyDeleteI don't even understand why this pervert isn't in jail
ReplyDeleteBack in the early 90s, a friend of a friend always talked about how much he hated the Catholic Church because priests in Boston molested him when he was little. Each time sexual abuse allegations come out, I always think of him, wondering if he feels vindicated, or if he harmed himself because no one believed him all of those years.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I feel for Dylan for not being believed by Woodie's adoring fans.
Knew this guy was a perv, him polanski, jack nicholson, the crew of them are sick! its time angelica huston comes clean about all she knows abou these pervs
ReplyDeleteThis guy had a relationship with and later married his daughter. Nuff said. Guilty as charged. Scumbag.
ReplyDeleteNever liked Woody Allen's movies, so I've never given him my dough. I do wonder how Mia Farrow can support Roman Polasky when this happened to her child.
ReplyDeleteYes Henriette - Mia defends Roman
DeleteI don't dispute what Dylan says, but the truth is, none of us were there, and it seems as though Mia is still on a campaign to smear Woody, starting with that Vanity Fair article in November.
ReplyDeleteLike Kourtney mentioned above, Mia is a big supporter of Roman Polanski, who pleaded guilty to raping a 13-year-old. Let's also not forget that Mia Farrow's brother John, was sentenced to ten years this past fall, for molesting two boys for years. She hasn't spoken out about that either.
Yesterday there was a very even-handed article in the Daily Beast (sorry for not making it clicky).
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html
Surfer - here is hyperlink link
DeleteSurfer - just went in and read article - Don't know truth but everyone expressing strong opinion on this matter really should read this article. I thought It was well written and gives a lot of detail missing in brief summations here and elsewhere.
DeleteI read that, too, and it sounds very plausible.
DeleteSick,sick,sick!
ReplyDeleteMy grandbaby wants to be on tv, Disney that is. I say hell-to-the-no! I would hate to end up in jail behind killing one of those pervs but if it came down to that....
I don't know what to believe but did you know that Mia had her first child out of wedlock when she was 24 by a married 40 yo man that broke up his marriage and caused his wife to have a breakdown, that Mia (who is a great humanitarian and fights for rights all over the word) continues to be friend and stand by Roman Polanski, that Mia and Woody never married or even had a common-law marriage, never lived together, that he never adopted Soon, that she was 19 or 21 (korean lost her birth certificate) when they started going out.
ReplyDeleteIf you're interested read this article; Wood Allen Allegations It gives a complete picture of things that time has distorted. Read for yourself. Be informed.
FYI - this is article mentioned by surfer - read it.
DeleteWell, to be fair...
ReplyDeleteHas Dylan Farrow ever directed a film?
No?
Well Woody has so he gets a pass.
My favorite is "Manhattan Murder Mystery"
ReplyDeleteThanks Texas - for the link, and keeping an open mind.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure there is plenty that happened that none of us know.
I'm not a Mia Farrow fan either, because she picks and chooses what molesters she will support.
ReplyDeleteSo, Mia gets the most slams in the comments about Woody molesting children? That is fucked up.
ReplyDeleteJennifer - Not an Allen fan and nobody knows what really happened but read the article and it might give you a new perspective why some have doubts about Mia's conduct.
DeleteI hate how she is constantly referred to as his adopted daughter, as if child molestation is somehow less awful and gross if the molester isn't blood related to his victim.
ReplyDeleteAnd that Daily Beast article is hardly even-handed.
Agree w you 100%. Daily Beast article came out couple of weeks ago-assuming Dylan wrote op-ed as a response. Hope she finds some peace.
DeleteWell to be fair
ReplyDeletehas someone who posts as Evil Kumquat on the internet ever directed a film?
Have they even been in a reality show?
DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LINE OF CLOTHING?
Pass fail
It is Hollywood. 2 scumbags and damaged children, nothing surprising.
ReplyDeleteThat said, the best joke from the time Woody and Soon-yi hooked up was:
What do Woody Allen and Kodak film have in common?
Both of em come in a little yellow box.
@Surfer. That article was very interesting. Thanks! I highly recommend it.
ReplyDeletei'm sorry for Dylan Farrow but i agree with @Surfer because Farrow is a big supporter of Polanski
ReplyDeleteaccording to some specialists, IN FRANCE,only 30% of incest/sexual assault ACCUSATIONS against a kid DURING A DIVORCE might be true http://www.lexpress.fr/informations/l-arme-du-soupcon-d-inceste_633287.html
French Girl, I read the article attached here and will read this when I get on my computer but this may shed more impartial light on the whole situation. It's sad that people usr children as a weapon. Given MIA's continued support for Roman in light of her daughters situation seems quite hypocritical. She was also very angry (understandably so) over the Soon Yi situation. Let's agree she probably wasn't of the most rational mind at the time.
DeleteI'm a long time reader and rarely post, but that article from the Daily Beast is extremely biased. It completely slams Mia in the first section then offers wording and technicalities (like Mia and Woody not living together) to justify his actions with Soon Yi. I'm not a fan of Mia or Woody to be honest, but that article is crap.
ReplyDelete@Jennifer H:
ReplyDeleteI don't think Mia is necessarily getting more slams. It's just showing that people generally do what's in their best interests. Why isn't she talking about her friend Roman, who plead guilty to child rape, or her brother who was convicted of those charges?
Personally, I was never a fan of Woody's and find him rather revolting, but the timing of all this is rather suspicious.
Also, in the VF article, Mia throws it out there that Ronan may be Frank Sinatra's child. Is that not a slam at Woody? And how disrespectful is that to Frank Sinatra's widow, who is not only still alive, but was married to him at the time that she claims Ronan was born?
So because Mia supports polansky means that The girl woody molested shouldnt get her justice?
ReplyDelete@it took forever: you'd think being the mother of a sexual abuse victim would mean she generally has no tolerance for paedophiles. Which Polansky is.
DeleteJust like to add - you don't get to pick and choose which molesters you support. You either support them (gag) or you don't.
ReplyDeleteI too was done with Woody Allen when this whole thing broke. Why Mia supports Polanski is beyond me, she must have her reasons in her mind. Dylan, I believe you, and agree society fails these children. By the way, its not your fault, and it's not your fault if he continued to molest. Not. Your. Fault.
ReplyDeleteI didn't believe Mia then and I don't believe this now…poor Dylan has been brainwashed, these kids have had a daily diet of WHAT WOODY DID….
ReplyDeleteThey have no idea of what is the truth. We all know that memory is faulty at best and when a false memory is drummed into you year after year you have no idea what the truth is.
This is so sad.
The Daily Beast article some mention was written by a Woody Allen fan who did a documentary on him. So he would be a extremely biased person.
ReplyDeleteI love Cate Blanchett and was so disappointed that she took a role in a Woody Allen film. He fucked a girl just out of her teens who was to all intents and purposes his step-daughter. Now she's his wife and from all reports, leads him around by his dick.
ReplyDeleteIt must eat away at him that his only biological child, Ronan, is so exceptional and brilliant. And despises him. Good.
I know it's not the popular point of view, but I find the Farrow family's public obsession with Allen creepy.
ReplyDeleteHate him, wash your hands of him, prosecute the case in a court of law, fair enough. But what's with the Tweets and the interviews and the New York Times articles?
Is that really what's going to help Dylan heal?
ITA, and I get upset when those of us who say this are accused of "keeping the victims silent." I have worked with IPV/SV survivors, and by all means they need to raise their voices and heal. It's just that it matters where and how.
DeleteThe thing that makes me angry about that "fair" article is that it mentions there was no baginal trauma and that a SEVEN YEAR OLD had a difficult time explaining in detail to other people what happened. A seven year old is not an adult, will not talk like an adult, does not think like an adult, and will not always behave the way adults think he or she should in a situation. Also, the vagina, like the mouth, heals faster than any other part of the body. That is why molestation and rape can be hard to prove. I don't know what happened to that woman, but there are many other facts yhat people need while they're spreading information.
ReplyDeleteI am so conflicted about this, but wither way (abused by Allen or brainwashed by Mia) Dylan is a victim and my heart goes out to her.
ReplyDeleteyes!
Delete@Surfer, what I thought was most interesting about the Daily Beast article was that Mia agreed to have film clips featuring her included in the Golden Globe tribute to Woody Allen.
ReplyDeleteIf the entire family is disgusted by him, why not refuse to participate in the tribute at all?
And what's with Dylan calling out Emma Stone, Cate Blanchett etc. for participating in the tribute when her own Mom chose to do the same?
Wow, thought you were better than that Nutty. Shame. Again, take Mia out of this and you still have Woody and Dylan. It happened. Cannot believe you of all people are defending this prick.
Delete@Kels, so sorry to hear about your terrible and frightening experience. I also feel for Dylan, who clearly has had great pain in her life.
DeleteThat said, my point stands. If Mia loves and supports her daughter, why did she co-operate in a tribute to her daughter's molester?
Mia's behavior does not speak to Dylan's truth; it reflects on Mia, not Dylan.
Thank you, and I see where you are coming from. Mia isn't the best mother, but facts are facts. I wish people could separate the two. I just hope Dylan finds peace- away from Woody AND Mia.
DeleteThis quote from the article Texas Rose linked to, sums up my feelings regarding this matter:
ReplyDelete"I don’t think she’s a bad person, but I do think she ought to consider the fact that by being friends with and supporting Polanski–or even just being silent on the matter–she is doing the exact thing that she accuses people of doing with Woody Allen."
She being Mia.
I remember when all of this was going on and there were a lot of accusations from both sides and people chose sides. In retrospect, Mia's accusations against Woody were the ones that are remembered.
ReplyDeleteI'm usually very skeptical when reading autobiographies, but I read Mia's and her story was very believable. The Nanny at the time also wrote a book.
Paint chips - did Nanny discuss allegations? What did she say?
DeleteI have no idea if Dylan was molested but I do know she was clearly traumatized and still is. So are her siblings. What I do believe us Woody is creepy and Mia is nuts.
ReplyDelete@Ms Cool: agreed. Just because Woody's a child molesting cunt, doesn't make Mia a saint. Apparently she is nuts.
DeleteI also remember that Mia expected to be in Woody's next film..in the middle of all this and was totally pissed when she was replaced by Diane Keaton at the last minute.
ReplyDeleteNo I don't believe Mia
@ ViciousVivian - I agree with you but I think it eats at Farrow and her children that Woody is so loved and celebrated when he is at the very least [not considering the sexual assault charges], a major MAJOR asshole and betrayer for having an affair with the young daughter of his mistress.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, Woody, you live in NYC and could have banged just about anybody but the daughter of your girlfriend???
so very interesting. I read all I could fine. I wonder why Moses is estranged from his mother, who really did alot for him.
ReplyDeleteNutty - that was interesting, wasn't it? Maybe she wanted to people to remember that she was once an actress (how long has it been since she's acted in something?).
ReplyDeleteTexas - when reading Nick Kristoff's article yesterday, he linked to a few different stories from back then. Two of the nannies were on record as saying 1) that particular day, Dylan was never out of her sight, and 2) her underwear was never missing. (I feel ick just typing all that).
The truth is, anytime someone is accused of a crime, whether they're charged or found not guilty, the smear always sticks, and usually follows them around for life.
Please burn in hell. People like you are why people like me and Dylan and countless other victims of sexual abuse stay silent. I hope you're happy that you just defended a pedophile. I hope it helps you sleep at night thinking that because of who Dylan's
DeleteMother is, she must be lying. I hope that comforts you and hope you never have a child that is abused because your reaction is just plain sick.
Fuck off Kels. Who are you to tell someone (even kindly) to burn in hell?
DeleteI hope you gain some peace in your life and stop being a miserable asshole.
And who is surfer to tell Dylan she's lying? You can burn in hell as well!
DeleteAnd don't hope I gain peace- hope for Dylan. But you guys don't believe her. And I'm the miserable asshole? How much of an asshole must I be for defending a woman who said she was abused as a child? Yup, if that makes me an asshole then I'm the biggest asshole out here and proud of it too.
DeleteKels, a lot of women were burned ad witches too. Doesn't mean they were.
DeleteAlso….Mia has a large family of adopted kids most with Special Needs…..all the older children were expected to help care for the younger kids…Soon Yi wanted out in the worst way.
ReplyDeleteThe only molestation victim that Mia has any personal responsibility for is her daughter. So she chooses not to publicly discuss a family member who is a molester; why are we not slamming Soon-Yi for doing the same with her husband? So she chooses to support a man who was a huge influence on her at a very young age; how does that negate what Allen almost certainly did?
ReplyDeleteShe's an actress. She is allowed to pick and choose her causes. We don't have to like her, but it is absolute bullshit to dismiss Dylan's experiences and give Allen a pass because of it.
This!!!
DeleteThis!!!
DeleteIMO - we need to separate Dylan Farrow's thoughts, words and experience from both Woody Allen and Mia Farrow. Woody and Mia are both sick, but in different ways. I believe that Dylan was abused by her father and not properly supported by her mother. I understand her mother's and other's decision not to put her through a trial where she would have to testify, that was their decision. But where does this leave Dylan, years later? Sick at the mention of Woody's name, not every having had her day in court, with no hope of justice. This is very sad.
ReplyDeleteDylan - I have boycotted Woody Allen's film since the day I heard the allegations regarding his abuse of you. Keep speaking the truth and shining a light on his sickness.
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MIA?! My mother isnt the best but I was molested and I would expect people to believe regardless of who my mom is. It is fucking disgusting that ANY of you are even trying to say Dylan is lying. If it was your child or your cousin that came to you and said Woody touched her, are you gonna be like "well nobody knows what really happened"
ReplyDeleteNobody knows? DYLAN knows. She just told you. And you all that refuse to believe her or are even questioning something so painful should burn in hell. The victim blaming makes me never want to speak on my abuse and I bet that article from the Daily Beast just SILENCED a lot of people who need to speak out. All you supoorting Woody and bashing Mia as if she has anything to do with this is are fucking pricks. So Ronan is lying too? And so what if hes Sinatras? DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT WOODY DID.
How can you defend a man that slept with his ex-wifes daughter? So fuckong sick and very heart breaking. So sick.
Kels, I don't think people are saying Dylan is lying; I believe they are saying that Mia was pissed at Woody...blindly furious (perhaps rightfully so) and used their children (by planting false memories) to get back at him. Who knows, maybe she (mia) convinced herself it was true as the years went on.
DeleteI don't know what really happened, none of us do. But the investigation at the time found no evidence of molestation and, in fact, found evidence that Mia coached Dylan.
That does not mean any one of us "supports" child molesters, nor blame any victim, Dylan included (and there is no doubt in my mind that she is a victim...of whom, is the question). Your experience notwithstanding (and I am sorry for it) people do make false claims of molestation - especially in custody disputes, and vilifying the parent who is the victim of such allegations (not saying Woody is, or isn't) does no one, including REAL victims any favors.
It is interesting that the 3rd child in all of this has cut ties with Mia, reestablished a relationship with Woody and now characterizes what Mia did as "brainwashing".
Speak your truth, Dylan, and fuck the rest. Peace and light to you.
ReplyDeleteI was not as young as Dylan when someone similar happened to me, but the community I was operating within also celebrated and lauded my assailant. Its so damaging to your psyche in a way that goes well beyond the actual assault and really causes you to turn on yourself when the person who hurt you is so loved publically by others.
ReplyDelete@rach people are well known to be hypocrites when it comes to things like this. sadly.
ReplyDelete@ray pot, kettle, blacker than black.
ReplyDelete@kels - I wasn't going to address your comments because you don't know how to be civil - calling people names and telling them to burn in hell does you no service.
ReplyDeleteAt no point did I ever say Dylan was lying; also, I didn't see a single person here say these charges weren't true. I very clearly said I found Woody repulsive, and referred people to that article.
You shouldn't assume to know what is in my, or anyone else's head.
I cannot be civil with someone who is defending a child molester. You can say that Woody did it all you want but to even try to say there is some doubt because of who Dylan's mother is is what is irking me. It's disgusting for people to say that this has anything to do with Mia's past because it doesn't. You don't realize how comments like yours keep people silent because people want to believe an article they read instead of the person that is telling the story. How would you honestly feel if your child was molested by a man and someone wrote an article basically saying she might be lying? If you think he did and you think he's disgusting, why even post the Daily Beast article? Why? What was your point in doing that?
DeleteI have been done with Woody Allen since his affair with Soon Yi came to light. He is a disgusting, pedophile and I believe Dylan. I hope she finds some peace in this life and shame on all of his supporters.
ReplyDeleteIn case anyone thinks she is lying, you have to remember that Ronan Farrow said the same about a month ago. And he has a lot to lose if that wasn't true.
ReplyDeleteNow keep defending the liberal midget because you like his movies.
Damn, PSH is dead and this liberal rapist is still alive and getting homages.
Karma is an f wording lie.
Perhaps an unspoken question here is should support of someone's art be separate from the artist's actions in their personal life? I have long not watched Woody Allen films because I did not enjoy them. If I am to not support someone in their craft because of actions in their personal life, then Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirk Douglas, Morgan Freeman, Michael Douglas and countless others will need to be added to an ever growing list. Please be assured I have no sympathy for pedophiles and wish for justice for the survivors, but in a culture which celebrates celebrities, I wonder if we can associate whether or not we laud someone for their craft and tie it to their personal lives. I fear if we did, we would have no entertainment at all because most everyone in the entertainment industry seems so perverse and corrupt.
ReplyDeleteThis is very true. But is Mel a child molester? Tom? Cause honestly I feel like murder and child molestation are where we should draw the line.
DeleteBeing a paedo
DeleteOr murderer- no thanks. But being a douche? How is that an issue?!!!
Kels - NO ONE is defending a child molester (well, except Mia defending Polanski).
ReplyDeleteThe first line of my first post starts "I don't dispute what Dylan says," so please don't go putting words into my mouth.
I wasn't there, so am in no position to judge what happened.
It's also a horrible thing to be accused of a crime you know in your heart you did not commit.
Someone very close to me was dragged into the legal system by a cop who was trying to make a name for himself. This person not only lost his business, but had all his accounts frozen. He had to hire a lawyer, and is now mired in the criminal justice system.
The judge recently threw the case out, citing the cop repeatedly for lying. He lied on the affidavit in support of the search warrant, as well as in the grand jury hearings. They also have the cop on tape, saying he would do whatever it takes to "nail this guy."
My friends life is ruined, because now when you Google him, all that comes up is his mug shot and all the reports on his arrest. Do you have any idea how that will affect him going forward? No, I bet you don't, and you probably don't care. Now when he'll travel, and Customs will check his passport, this will come up, even though he wasn't guilty of ANYTHING!
Wow so you DO believe he was falsely accused? Take your foot out your mouth and wise up.
DeleteI wonder how Woody ruined Dylan's life? His movie is nominated for an Oscar and Dylan can't even stomach hearing his name.
Like I said before, you can burn in hell.
That's sad etc but ur friend had sweet FA to do with this. Its a separate matter.
Deletei bet surfer is a duder.
ReplyDelete@headrot - I'm a girl, not a "duder."
ReplyDeleteI feel really sorry for you Kels.
ReplyDeleteNo, I never said or intimated that Woody was falsely accused. I was just sharing the story of what happened to my friend, and what can happen when you are falsely accused.
WHY ARE YOU EVEN INSINUATING THAT WOODY IS BEING FALESLY ACCUSED?! Ugh you don't even see what you are saying.
DeleteOMG KELS. READ WHAT PEOPLE ARE WRITING AND STOP FALSELY ACCUSING THEM.
DeleteI'M GOING TO TELL KANYE YOU'RE USING ALL CAPS KELS
DeleteStopppp cause this is a serious post and I just love Scott to pieces, don't make me laugh.
DeleteRay fuck off.
FIRST WARNING
Delete@Kels
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for your pain but this isn't about you. Mia is the problem here not Dylan. Dylan was used and is still being used.
This is all about Mia…and has been for years, she refuses to move on and is completely obsessed that she wasn't able to destroy this man and his career.
But using your children for revenge is just wrong.
Raising your children on lies is wrong, she has done more damage than good.
How is this about Mia? And how am I making this about me when all I'm doing is defending Dylan?
DeleteI feel for everyone who has had their trust, body & mind abused. For me the most telling part of Dylan's letter is how previous behaviour had caused her concern, but she thought the problem was her. Classic grooming behaviour. Thank goodness her family believed her. Mia, to her credit, has never doubted her daughter, her brother is publicly vocal about supporting her. Those actions are fantastic & would have helped her get to the life she has now. I can't imagine how awful it must be to have your abuser in the media & not be able to escape them.
ReplyDeleteThanks to Meredith and others who are questioning that Daily Beast article. I started to read it this morning and the language was so... I can't even think of an adequate word. Anyway, I had to stop reading it, it was just so biased and so icky and so gossipy sounding.
ReplyDeleteI don't care about Woody or Mia, I care about Dylan and all the other victims of sexual assault. It is time for us to change our default reactions to people who report this crime. Why do we work so hard to deny them instead of just listening to them? Stop accusing victims. Ugh.
@FS word. i think this is what Kels is trying to get at in a slightly less coherant and eloquent way.
ReplyDeleteWithout knowing the truth my sympathy naturally goes to a woman that may have been living with the effects of being assaulted by her father. Opposed to a man who may have been falsely accused of said assault while seemingly not suffering in professional or personal life.
ReplyDeleteWith that being said I can't shake Mia's support of Polanski if she even suspected her daughter was abused. It's also interesting that Woody and Mia's older son (adopted prior to Dylan) and before Ronan was born hasn't spoken out. When the custody battle ended I read he was 14 and chose not to have contact with Woody. Not to mention all the Previn kids who would have known Woody and were Soon Yi's siblings. No matter what I think there are layers upon layers to this family's relationships.
I don't know what happened and I am sure that something could have happened to Dylan. Who actually did it could be what's really the question. Kids are very easy to manipulate and Mia might have influenced her for her own purposes. Things get mixed up and people are soon convinced of their own truth. That is just one way to look at it.
ReplyDeleteIf Woody did do this, then it might have been hard to prove. Comparing Mia's support for Polanski is a little different to me, though. We all know that happened. There is no dispute about that, so there should be no reason for her to support him.
Others that support Woody might see it as a scenario where Mia was pissed at Woody and did whatever she could to smear him. They don't know for sure.
I have no doubt that Dylan was a victim. The question is by who really. Personally, I think Woody and Mia are both fucking selfish and crazy. It was still wrong for Woody to marry Mia's daughter and Mia has had her share of questionable choices.
I am curious why this is coming out in this way right now. Woody has been honored in ways before and it hasn't been this big except for when the whole child custody stuff happened. Is it just because of the social media stuff?
Sorry for the rant. :)
I think it's important to note that custody of Ronan was lost as well. Ronan apparently hated going for his visits with WA and there had been some violence reported.
ReplyDeleteWoody kicking him and treating him very cruely.
It helps to explain part of Ronan's extreme dislike of WA.
I'm curious what life must be like for the 2 girls WA adopted with Soon Yi. They were foreign adoptions so no over site or home studies from social services.
As history always proves, where there is smoke there is fire.
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ReplyDeleteMy sweet Lola. I was thinking about you this morning. How I miss the exhilarating feeling from our spats. How I miss the intellectual challenges you gave me. How the energy from a face to face confrontation and the passion that is sure to follow, would light the east coast grid for 3 days.
ReplyDeleteGood lord, I could just imagine you bad mouthing me, calling me a keyboard jockey loser, while I was spanking your fiesty tush. "Harder, Dickless! Is that all you got? Can some one get me a real man in here? This twink can barely spank his monkey, much less my ass." Just fueling the fire in my mind, heart and loins. Push me to a level of blind rage, before we engage in pure, instinctual, carnal passion. Only then, when you feel like I am a real man, would you submit to my filthy desires. You may be the power bottom of my dreams.
I broke the "arguing" facade, couldn't help it. You make me weak.
Happy Super Bowl, Betch.
Nobody is disputing that Dylan is lying. However, Mia didn't make up any allegations to punish Woody for not getting cast in Manhattan Murder Mystery. On Jan 13, 1992, Mia discovered photos of a naked Soon-Yi in Woody's apt, while she was waiting for Satchel (now Ronan) to finish up with his psychiatrist's appointment which Woody insisted be held in his apt. MMM started filming in the fall of that year. MMM was indeed supposed to star Mia, but in Aug. 1992, Mia accused Woody of sexually assaulting 7 year old Dylan. Don't see how the two could have worked together after that.
ReplyDeleteDylan's account of the incidents where she claims Woody would "Place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out," was witnessed first hand by baby sitter Alison Strickland on August 4, 1991. She recounted how on that date, she saw Woody kneeling beside Dylan with his face buried in her crotch. Strickland later informed Mia of what she saw. Horrified, Mia then remembered that Dylan was not wearing any underpants that day. When Mia asked Dylan about what occurred, Dylan said that when she tried to pull away from Woody, he then touched her "privates." According to Dylan, Woody then took her up to Mia's room and into a small space inside Mia's closet, where Dylan claimed Woody touched her once again. Mia then videotaped Dylan and took her to a pediatrician where a physical exam revealed no signs of penetration. The law required the physician to alert authorities. Thus, an investigation was launched and the case became public.
Although I applaud Dylan's courage and sympathize greatly with what she has had to endure, I'm not quite sure what point Dylan is trying to make by invoking Cate Blanchett, Louis CK, Alec Baldwin, Emma Stone or Scarlett Johansson into the discussion. As Dylan points out, Woody was never convicted of any crime, in fact the prosecutor in the case Frank Maco, dropped the sexual abuse charges against Woody on Sept 24, 1993, after a 14 month investigation. Cate Blanchett, Alec Baldwin, Scarlett Johansson (or for that matter Julia Roberts, Natalie Portman, Charlize Theron, Tracey Ullman, Helen Hunt, Penelope Cruz, Larry David, Edward Norton, Will Ferrell, Naomi Watts, Tobey Maguire, Robin Williams, Hugh Grant, Colin Farrell, Liam Neeson, Michael J. Fox, Leonardo DiCaprio or any other of the more than 1000 performers who have starred in Woody's movies) should have the right to choose to work with Woody if they wish. There are people in the industry who have spoken out against Woody (Carly Simon, Howard Stern) and in support of Mia as well. Which is their right. Just like it was Mia's right to lend her name to a petition to free Roman Polanski from a jail in Switzerland back in 2009.
But perhaps after reading Dylan's account of what happened, in her own words, maybe - just maybe a performer will think before accepting a role in the next Woody Allen project. Maybe. Woody Allen is 83 years old. If what she alleges is in fact the truth, it's good that she is letting people know while he is still among us.
An interesting read (from 1993- during the custody hearing of the testimony of Ronan's therapist speaking (largely) to Mia's state of mind at the time, as well as Dylan and Woody's behavior towards her. It is from this that the quote regarding Woody being "inappropriately intense" towards her, a quote that has been taken out of context:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/books/97/02/23/reviews/farrow-doctor.html
Cate has made a response now.
ReplyDeleteAfter the tribute though, Hollywood Elsewhere columnist Jeffrey Wells asked Blanchett to comment on her way into the after-party. "I mean, it's obviously been a long and painful situation for the family, and I hope they find some sort of resolution and peace," she said.
Texas Rose - i remember the nanny being on Howard Stern (about the time they introduced Wood-Yi) - I snagged a copy of the book and am going to read it this week.
ReplyDeleteI want to comment on this at length but, game on and party to get to and damit work gets in the way, but why are some opinions of the abuse based on their option of Mia?
ReplyDeleteThis is about a woman who after 20 years has the courage to come forward and be public and about her abuse and names the abuser. Who cares if WA is brilliant, that is a pass? Does a priest, cop, teacher, volunteer get a pass because they do good work in the community? Because Mia supports Polanski, Dylan has to carry her mother's sins of bad judgment?
Where is the compassion for the victim?
What a shitty day, PSH dies and typically thoughtful CDaN bloggers find a way to blame a victim. I thought the trolls of January were over!
Peace x 2, I'm taking my drink and outta here.
@kimba i totally agree. its been super disappointing how people have reacted.
ReplyDelete@frontlover wtf are you talking about
To muddy the waters a bit more, a friends son was horribly physically, mentally and sexually abused by his mentally ill mother. He was 6 when it was discovered that she was having him digitally masturbate her, and was orally abusing him. After months of investigation it was decided that the child should live with his father but could continue to see his mother. This decision was made because he changed his story a little bit once. He is now a mentally ill adult incapable of having normal relationships with others. He takes a large number of medications just to be functional.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, my ex husband, angry that I dare leave him and our ugly marriage, tried everything to get the kids away to punish me. He didn't even want them but knew how important they are to me. He reported me as an abuser because I slapped my sons face once. I admitted it (it was true!) and he got custody. While at the trial, when the law guardian was completely blown away. I admitted it! I admitted slapping my son! Unheard of!
I have zero confidence in the court system. I am glad though to see people looking at both sides of this and realizing that regardless of what really happened, Dylan is a victim.
Lola, you wrote exactly what I wanted to say and thought about all day but couldn't quite figure out how to phrase correctly, completely, and respectfully. I agree with every point.
ReplyDeleteAn especially valid consideration should go to what Moses Farrow has to say; I did not know that he has cut ties with Mia until I read that Daily Beast article, and it further cements my personal opinions on the matter.
Welp, Enty def fulfilled his clicks requirement today! Y'all have a lot to say on this first Sunday in February.
ReplyDeleteI've never seen a Woody Allen movie that I liked. And of course, the young woman's letter was sad. I also don't doubt that she believes what she wrote. But I'm not so sure.
ReplyDeleteYes, Allen's marriage to Soon-yi was creepy, but because of the age difference, not because he'd raised her, or she was his daughter, or even an adopted daughter of his. In fact, when she was growing up, she never even lived with him.
And let's not forget what else was going on when this allegation concerning Dylan Farrow first came out. Her mother, Mia Farrow, was in the midst of a particularly nasty breakup with Allen, and she certainly wouldn't have been the first woman to make that kind of allegation against someone she'd come to despise. Nor would Dylan have been the first little girl whose mother had convinced her that she'd been molested. Mia Farrow, for all her good works, is quite a piece of work herself. In fact, on at least three separate occasions she's married or lived with men who were several decades older than her: Frank Sinatra, Andre Previn, and Woody Allen.
Then there's that suspicious video, which was clearly edited by simply turning the camera off between times when Dylan, as a child, was speaking about Allen.
I won't say the man isn't guilty, and as I stated at the beginning, I've never liked his work, much less the way he's handled his private life--insofar as I've read about it. But allegation and conviction aren't the same things, and it appalls me that so many people seem ready to lynch him when the truth is that they have no more first-hand knowledge of what really took place than I do.
I believe her. I also believe he will continue to make movies and stars will continue to kiss his wizened ass.
ReplyDeleteWould you let your children be alone with woody Allen? You don't need "proof" to know who should be kept far away from children.
I have personally witnessed the pain that sexual abuse causes--from one side of my family, as well as the pain that false accusations causes--from another side of the family. Kids are always hurt in both scenarios.
ReplyDeleteEither way, Dylan is a victim. Either way, Woody is a creep. I think that the writer of the article really downplayed how horrifically inappropriate the situation between Soon-Yi and Woody is. I don't care that she was of "legal age" and that Woody never officially resided with her. The children of your significant other are off limits.
Also, investigating a case is not being a pedophile defender/apologist. I would hope that asking questions doesn't prevent other victims from coming forward, but questions have to be asked.
I sincerely hope that Dylan is able to continue healing.
There is no way he just stopped being a predator after Dylan. Hell, he was a predator with Soon Yi even if he did marry her. I've been boycotting his movies for years. He's probably one of those men that take yearly trips to 3rd world countries....Sick, stuttering bastard. P.S. Hollywood is sick so I kinda expect them to embrace this
ReplyDeleteSurfer and Lola brought up some very good points.
ReplyDeleteAlso, none of us were there to know what actually went on. The creepiest thing about Soon-Yi and Woody to me is that she was Mia's daughter. Mia Farrow was 21 to Frank Sinatra's 50. That marriage lasted less than 2 years. Woody and Soon-Yi have been together more than 10 times longer than that.
Mia is an actress. If anyone could pull off what she is doing, it would be an actress. Not that I am saying the abuse didn't happen, but if she was out to be the scorned, vindictive woman she would know how to play the part and how to coach the children to act.
If Ronan is indeed Frank Sinatra's child, she is saying that while she was in a committed relationship with Woody she was having an affair with Frank Sinatra and passing the child off to Woody for support. To me, that puts a blemish on what a close family they were at the time.
My heart goes out ti Dylan if the accusations are true, but there was never any proof other than what they said, and it seems slightly sketchy that this was all brought up the same time Woody Allen was honored and awarded.
Doctor Cites Inconsistencies In Dylan Farrow's Statements
ReplyDeleteBy RICHARD PEREZ-PENA
Published: May 4, 1993
The doctor who headed the Connecticut investigation into whether Woody Allen molested his 7-year-old daughter, Dylan, theorized that the child either invented the story under the stress of living in a volatile and unhealthy home or that it was planted in her mind by her mother, Mia Farrow, a sworn statement released yesterday says.
Dr. John M. Leventhal, who interviewed Dylan nine times, said that one reason he doubted her story was that she changed important points from one interview to another, like whether Mr. Allen touched her vagina. Another reason, he said, was that the child's accounts had "a rehearsed quality." At one point, he said she told him, "I like to cheat on my stories."
Dr. Leventhal said: "We had two hypotheses: one, that these were statements that were made by an emotionally disturbed child and then became fixed in her mind. And the other hypothesis was that she was coached or influenced by her mother. We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination."
The doctor acknowledged that "We don't have firm evidence that Miss Farrow coached or directed Dylan to say this."
An Edited Transcript
Link to article here.
Either way Dylan was victimized by one or both of her parents.
ReplyDeleteMia & Woody have always had a f'ed up relationship & now their craziness is a burden for future generations of their family.
Link to another old article here.....Doctor Recounts Threats By Farrow Against Allen
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