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ReplyDeleteAgainst. The dude isn't a rockstar.
ReplyDeleteWhy does anyone pay attention to Rolling Stone anymore? This was only to get cheap heat and say, "Notice us we are still around." There is no one in today's music worth reading about.
ReplyDeletePlus Jan Wenner suckling on Yoko's asshole really makes his mag not worth wiping my ass with.
Count! Did you hear we won the award for Best Troll Couple??? Someone could steal my favorite vibrator and I wouldn't even care! It's a magical day!
DeleteWait, Count Jerkula is a troll?
DeleteI like Count J.
Rolling Stone sucks balls. Read Mojo instead.
DeleteWAY against and SICK TO DEATH of the sexualization and hip-ification of CRIMINALS and MURDERERS. He killed an 8 year old boy in COLD BLOOD and should be portrayed as nothing but the horrible murderer that he is, not some rockstar. I have never been so angry about a media story in my life.
ReplyDeleteABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY AGAINST IT, it's Rolling Stone not TIME no need to even discuss dude let alone have him on the cover of a MUSIC magazine.
ReplyDeleteAgainst. I don't want to look at a mag cover, think, "he's cute" and then realize it's someone who blew up a bunch of innocent civilians. Fuck this guy. Use a picture of him in cuffs, bloody, being pulled out on a stretcher. Or better yet, a picture of survivors. Again, fuck this guy.
ReplyDeleteI don't get the hype. They had covers featuring Bin Laden (worse in my opinion) and other offensive terrorists.
ReplyDelete*Meant Charles Manson. Bin Laden was in the Times.
DeleteThere was a bit from some late-night show on the local morning news, featuring the RS covers with Charles Manson, O.J. Simpson, and Roman Polanski at the height of their respective legal notoriety. I don't see why this is any different; it's current news. And I'm sure RS is loving all the extra publicity and the fact that people who haven't bought the magazine in years will be rushing out to get it. Also the people who think the issue will be worth big bucks in the future.
DeleteRS is definitely loving the attention, Good point on the $$.
DeleteAgainst. I refused to pay attention to the details of any shooter in movie theaters, or this guy. I am horrified by what they did, I do not need to know any more. I hate the amount of attention the media gives these people.
ReplyDeleteBest True Blood Gif Ever!
ReplyDeleteHa ha!! Rad! Not enough Norse panty twisting Eric for me.
DeletePretty damn tacky but it is Rolling Stone after all...
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely 100% against. People commit heinous crimes for the infamy they will receive, and this is just further perpetuating that. "Dismember some innocent people, get a magazine cover!" It's even more disgusting that RS's defense is that they want to educate and inform people. That's fine and all, but they know putting his face on a rock 'n' roll magazine is sending a very different message than that. Fuck them.
ReplyDeleteRolling Stone has been losing ground for years. Despite what Wenner thinks, controversy isn't going to bring back a publication that was archaic 25 years ago. Despicable.
ReplyDeleteI'm against it, but Rolling Stone has done stupid things before. Not sure the magazine is still relevant and they're desperate for attention. Doesn't matter if it's negative. It's still attention.
ReplyDeletemore upset when they put Bieber and Jonas Brothers on cover
ReplyDeleteExactly.
DeleteDisgusting. Do a story all you want (though it's pretty weak sauce in terms of content, if you take the time to read it) but complenting an article with a pretty boy, rock-star cover that makes him seem "cool"? No thanks.
ReplyDeletewhat does the bomber have to do with Rolling Stone?
ReplyDelete@Pink, the cover of Bin Laden did not make him seem appealing, and the Manson cover was way back when, when Rolling Stone was an underground-ish publication, not something sold on the racks in People's Drugs.
ReplyDeleteIf you didn't see the name on the cover copy and glanced the image, one could easily assume the guy was an up-and-coming Mayer/Groban crooner. Not okay.
**Ugh and typo: "complementing" was misspelled in my previous comment.
I wrote a long post but it got deleted so I'll write a shorter but less intelligent one this time. For.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that is so terrifying/interesting here is that he was such a popular decent looking kid who transformed into a hateful terrorist. That's the angle they took and I think it's interesting and even helpful to analyze. I hate this banning shit. If you don't want to read it don't buy it. No need to take the step to censorship. Would you really feel better if they chose an ugly photo instead?
@Nope...
DeleteAbsolutely. To everything you said.
Their point was that he looks (and lived a life) like someone you would never dream was capable of doing what he did.
Agree
DeleteAgree 100%. People need to look at the context of the article. Surely if extremism is to be defeated we need to understand what drives so called "regular" people to become radicalised.
DeleteI am from Boston and currently live in one of the towns that went on 24 hour lock down and was scared out of my mind when everything went down. A ton of the people I grew up with were close close friends of Krystal one of the victims. With that wing said I was hugely disappointed in this cover and thought it was tacky cheap marketing ploy.
DeleteI wasn't reading RS before and I certainly won't read it in the future. I just wish this whole thing wasn't up for debate... Poor form RS poor form.
Wing=being
DeleteNeither for nor against, just surprised. It's Rolling Stone, not Time Magazine.
ReplyDeleteAgainst! A piss poor use of their cover space.
ReplyDeleteAgainst. I'd be find with a different picture that didn't glamorize his appearance. The cover of Rolling Stones is generally reserved for Rock Stars. I feel like this cover and the name "THE BOMBER" kind of gives him a Rock Star status to those that support him and what he did. I'm apposed to the idea it conveys. I understand the article is in no way supportive of him, but I believe this cover just became an Iconic Image for Terrorist. I bet they have it framed already on their walls as a source of inspiration and THAT'S what is upsetting. Not the cover itself, the be people I believe will look at this and smile, be happy he's on it.
ReplyDeleteYeah, show a pic of him shot, bleeding and hiding under a boat cover with SWAT guns pointing at him!
DeleteFOR.
ReplyDeleteThe people screaming "Boycott" Rolling Stone just don't get it.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev wasn't and isn't a snarling, multifanged monster. He was a handsome, likable, popular, friendly kid.
This, the sweet-looking high-school hottie taking the selfie now on the cover of the Rolling Stone, is what somehow became the monster who has no shred of conscience over the people he's killed and the people he's maimed.
That's the story, and it's important. He wasn't born a monster. He didn't look like one, talk like one, act like one, feel like one, even after his crime.
That's a story we need to examine, and the comparison of that handsome, likable face and the monstrosity that has come to live under it -- identified as a monster right there on the cover under that sweet-looking face -- is at the core of it.
Not to start with that face is to completely blow the story.
@Jonathan, just what I was trying to say but you said it way better.
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ReplyDeleteTheir desperate attempt at being relevant and getting more attention than usual will backfire in loss of advertisers. The more heinous part is that by glamorizing this a**hole they could make other weak minded individuals want to commit outrageous acts to get this sort of attention too. I believe in non-censorship of the press but putting him in that idol position "on the cover the Rolling Stone" was not a well thought out decision, IMHO.
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ReplyDeleteno publicity is bad publicity they say, how long has it been since there was a controversial Rolling Stone cover? Im thinking when a teenaged Britney was on the cover in her undies on a princess phone. They know exactly what they are doing.
ReplyDeleteI saw the actual magazine in a store yesterday and I was highly offended how they softened the picture to create a come hither sexuality to it.
ReplyDeleteIt really bothered me, that I don't care what the story is or how he got to where he is now.
Add to the fact how much taxpayer money he is going to waste to defend himself in court. When he should just plead guilty to save time and tax money. Also makes me want to vomit.
Instead of being for or against, I am more thrilled with CVS and Walgreens choosing not to sell this issue.
ReplyDeleteIt's nice to see big businesses take a stand for something.
Everything jonathon Andrew sheen said. The story is about how cute and normal someone can look and still be a terrorist.
ReplyDeleteThose against are missing the point.
The vast majority in our extremely hectic society aren't exactly deep thinkers. They let a glance at a picture tell a thousand words. We all escape from our realities to gossip sites and comedy shows. Few want to contemplate the horrors that have hit our shores.
DeleteThis little piece of shit deserves no celebrity. I feel the pain and heartache for the people of Boston should they have to look at this cover.
Disgusting.
I lurve your name Dingle!
DeleteAgainst. Not only because he's responsible for so many deaths and it's wrong to glamorize him but also because in his best light, this was a kid who was under the wrong wing (his crazy brother). I think it's important for America to understand who is coming through its borders, that they're not all "Mexicans from down south" and they are not just here to "steal our jobs"
ReplyDeleteAn immigrant's reality and an immigrant's America can be very different from other people's perceptions and I think just because he didn't know what the fuck he was "fighting" for and being so young gives no one the right to high jack the story. Rolling stone is a magazine and is looking for controversy, but this is in poor taste against th people who were harmed, their families, and this idiot's fucked up mentality. It will make him think what he did was with a purpose. Meanwhile -- it was dumb.
Rolling stone should call up Kim kardashian next. She probably will want to put her baby on reveal on their cover.
very much against. I don't mind an article about him and how he became the monster that he is, but the picture they've used gives him too much of Rebel Without a Cause sexuality.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely for. Freedom of press and expression doesn't come with an asterisk.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting article that looks into the life of this American raised terrorist. His picture on cover reflects all the images of him. He looks like an average american teen as thats exactly what he was. Up until his murderous act that is
ReplyDeleteSo people who are so outraged by this terrorist and what he believed are all for censorship of the free press, eh? Irony; it's not dead. "I totally oppose the glorification of someone who tried to impose antediluvian fundamentalist ideas on others...so let's burn those books about him! How dare they take another approach to the story! How dare they not think like I do. Burn em at the stake! Ban them and their words!"
ReplyDeleteHaving him on the cover and writing a story about his murders is in no way glamourizing him to me. Dont read it anyway. Didnt time mag have kohemini on their cover? You dont like the cover, dont buy the mag. I tend to ignore nonesense, and dont see murders as pin ups.
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Delete+1 @Nope.
ReplyDelete@Miss Mess: Well, I know how I would like to celebrate, but for some reason I get the feeling you want to keep this an e-relationship.
ReplyDeleteAnywho, YAY US!
@Nope: You just stole my heart. Thank you for reaffirming that there are now at least 5 people here who have more than one brain cell.
ReplyDelete@Count: Knowing our lust can never be satisfied irl makes me that much hotter for you. You should see what I do with a shower head while recalling some of the conversations we've had.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Nope & JAS.
ReplyDeleteThe picture Rolling Stone selected speaks to the very point of the article. I am uncomfortable with the fact that he looks handsome and sweet because it is hard to reconcile that with the monster who set off bombs in a crowd. And that is the whole point of the article.
Several points:
ReplyDeleteI'm not against it, so perhaps I am for it. I agree with JA Sheen above that this analysis is important. How did this boy become this?
I don't know that photoshop was or was not used, but because it's a self-portrait, likely from a phone camera, I'm guessing it's 'soft' due to being low-res.
Having said the above, evidently the article does not really offer any true insights as to how the kid became a terrorist. If so, then I lean towards being against it because it's clearly an attempt by Rolling Stone to grab headlines.
But freedom of the press is incredibly important, at least to me, even if the result is actually 'freedom to do something really stupid' to grab attention.
How did he become this?! He's a foreign born terrorist! Have you seen his parents? They have not condemned his actions nor his brothers. They've condemned everything about the US and the freedoms that their remaining family members receive here.
DeleteUntil Americans start understanding the true mindset of the terrorist. You're fucked. There is no negotiating, no placating, no bargaining, no rights. They play dirty, unfair, and take advantage of everything and everyone, even their own family and children. They care about nothing and no one.
Okay. I'm done here. This is my escape place.
You wanna be fucked? Have at it.
@Miss Mess: You could always send me pictures.
ReplyDeleteI'm in Boston, my company has elected not to sell this. I'm fine with them doing a story but it was not a good idea to put this idealized picture on the cover.
ReplyDeleteI too believe the more we understand about these people, the more we can do to prevent something happening again.
@KLM then they should of put a school photo of him as the cover. Or better a picture of the victims.
ReplyDeleteThe point is Rolling Stone sexualized him with a photo that has clearly been touched up and softened to make him look cuter. Being a terrorist and being sexy have nothing to do with each other.
You have to see it in person to understand it I guess. On the computer it doesn't look like it does in paper.
This could of been handled much better but RS clearly wants the controversy since it has one foot in the grave as it is.
@Count: YOU could always send ME pics. You're the single one. Besides, you know exactly what I look like. How about giving me something to go on? Pretty Please?
ReplyDeleteI think, since Count and I are geographically close, I'm going to meet up with him and write a tell all post about the experience as a masturbation aid to all the CDAN ladies that flirt with him.
Delete@Nope: I'm already wet just thinking about it. I might even pay for that kind literature. Count: Are you in?
DeleteRS has always had non-rockstar covers on occasion.
ReplyDeleteI am a firm believer in freedom of the press. So, I guess I'm for this. But I haven't read the article, so it could be complete crap. I mean this IS Rolling Stone. I am a former longtime subscriber who cancelled my subscription in the early 2000s because an article about women in rock really really really pissed me off. RS is so irrelevant to me at this stage in the game.
Have any of you read the article? Surely, you can't JUST be offended by the cover? I'll check it out the next time I stop by the library. No way in hell I'm buying this rag. And I'm sure the online article is just a snippet.
I don't think anyone is against freedom of speech here (hellooo, it's a blind item gossip site where we guess that people are rapists, pedophiles and into some crazy shit!)
ReplyDeleteThe question was do we agree with the cover. The answer for some of us has been that we do not.
We dot advocate not writing about it, and yes, if we choose not to read it we won't, and if we choose to read it anyway then we will.
Ana nana nana mas or whatever the fuck your handle is -- no need to offend. Take a hike better.
Completely agree. ^
DeleteDON'T CARE. I'd defend Rolling Stone's write to publish it if we were talking about government censorship/a real First Amendment issue. Every damn store on the planet has the right to not carry it, just like Rolling Stone has the right to reject God knows how many articles submitted by writers and that's not censorship, either.
ReplyDeleteI get your point, but doesn't corporate censorship worry you too? What if Walmart refused to carry a magazine that had an article stating a woman could be president? I mean you can't be more censorship only when it's an issue you agree with, right?
DeleteThe stores have their rights too. They don't have to sell something they disagree with. Censorship means no one should be able to access it. These retailers are just saying THEY will not carry it.
DeleteWho cares? This is just a publicity by a lobby which wants the pressure cookers to be sold freely in the US and kill people with them, contrary to the intelligent POTUS who wants to grab all in order to make the country secure.
ReplyDeleteNope - Yes! I completely agree with you.
ReplyDeleteI also think this was a bit of a publicity stunt for RS. Honestly, when's the last time any of us have talked about Rolling Stone? So, I guess they win.
GET OVER IT people!
ReplyDeleteThis picture has appeared before in the press without comment. There are not a lot of Tsarnev(sp) around and this is one of the only one that works for a RS cover.
Do commission art work for the cover in support of the story would actually be the glamorization that the idiot Menino decries.
Read the story! I think is well written and important.
Joe
@Susan, I remember that article. The cover was Britney, Sheryl Crow, and *I believe* Pink. It was annoying.
ReplyDeleteOh, and FOR. People "against" a private company publishing a photo that they don't like is, IMO, kind of stupid. You vote with your dollars - don't buy it. But you don't get to censor other people's news.
ReplyDeleteWhat In-N-Out. Disagreeing with a magazine's decision to put this motherfucker on their cover and believing in censorship are two totally different things. I'm all for free press. RS can do whatever they want, I won't be boycotting anything. But it doesn't make what they did right. Supporting this simply because you're for free press is absolutely asinine. And if you don't think putting his cute face on the cover of a magazine that for so long has represented "cool" and "rockstars," you're blind - regardless of what the actual story is about.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like a lot of the article is on the RS web site. I started reading it, but I have piano students coming soon and I want to go practice before they get here. So, I will read it all tonight and check back here to see what you all think. It will probably be around midnight Jersey time.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I gather, the first page is pretty harmless, but the sources all seem in denial that this kid is in fact a killer. There is an interesting editor's note before the story starts.
Staple - I don't remember what it was that irked me so, but I remember calling up RS in a RAGE cancelling it. I was so angsty in my 20s. Hee. RS always hated on my beloved Tori Amos, so FUCK EM!!
@Miss Mess & @Nope: Yeah, sure, I'm down. Do I get final cut on the story? How about a set # of edits, like 2 or 3?
ReplyDeleteNo pictures, Miss Mess. You are fun, but a wild card. I can't have this crap I write come back to me, I have family to consider. I don't think any of it would affect my career, but I shudder to think of my child Googling me 10 years from now and seeing these posts. He can find out how to make a chick squirt on his own.
And Kudos to Nope for taking one for the team.
@Count: I'M a. Wild Card? I learned it from you! Pics are always a bad idea. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy each other on CDAN. Half the fun is the mystery. I also think we're providing a service to many of the readers on this site whose workplace or parents have filters installed. Fuck me like a sailor on leave! xoxo
Delete@Count, I would never give up final cut, but would be willing to set some ground rules (no personal info, etc). And let's not forget you could always counter post saying I'm crazy or full of shit. Since this is a post about journalism let's stick to journalist ethics. Anything identified as "off the record" will be; anything else is fair game. Oh, and don't murder me.
DeleteIf it's the cover story then it makes sense that he's on the cover, and remember that Hitler was once on the cover of Time magazine as Man of The YR,too; it doesn't mean that they're glorifying them; it just means that they're part of big news stories,and news stories aren't always good and the person in the centre of a big news story isn't always a good guy...
ReplyDeleteGet a room, you two. Good gawd.
ReplyDeleteThe cover is deliberately both provocative and Terrorist Teen Beat. It's for revolutionary chic nitwits who wear Che t-shirts to strike a blow against The Man while living rent-free in The Man's (daddy's) basement. And it's for boy-crushers of all ages. The typical RS demographic in other words. If the point of the article is "how did it come to this" then why use this photo, which is quite recent, as opposed to baby photos or something? This being RS, the article is probably a big festival of shame and blame of everyone except this little shithead. I saw a photo of bin Laden back in the 70s with friends/family. Everyone looked really happy and smiling, no headscarfs or hijabs or long beards or evil eyes. It's actually really interesting what happened there.
@Amartel: Yep--wanna make it 4?
Delete@Armatel: It is 3 of us now.
ReplyDeleteI think the reaction speaks to the Amanda Bynes-ification of our society. "Ugly" =bad, "pretty"=good. He was a good looking kid, that doesn't mean he was a good person. This was his face, and I'm pretty sure this pic is from his facebook or some other social media- it has been used in media before. There was already a groupie following of this guy because of his looks, and they insist he has to be innocent because he is cute. That story would be just as good as how one guy turned into a monster.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, the cover story doesn't offend me. It doesn't make me uncomfortable to reconcile that a good looking person is capable of horibble acts (ex: Ted Bundy).
DeleteMiz Mess...I've been dIEing to tell you, I've got a soft spot in my heart for your brand of craziness! Or is that crazYness. :)
ReplyDelete@AnonyMousE: Thanks! I reallIE appreciate the fact that some people don't take it so seriouslIE. xoxo
ReplyDeleteI started off thinking I would vote "against", but I did read almost everyone's comments, at least those relevant to the question, and was very impressed with Johnathan's argument for his "for" vote. It made me think hard enough to where I'm no longer against using this image and can see the point of choosing this particular photograph for the context of the story.
ReplyDeleteI remember one of my own reactions to seeing his face back when the stories started breaking about his identity and photos of him started being published. I thought he looked so innocent and adorable and I had a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that this cute teenager ended up a terrorist.
That said, I absolutely do not think the people voting against this image are indicating they are censorship advocates. You can support freedom of press and still disagree with the choices of the media.
@Nope: Only thing I'll murder is your vagina, if you consent. I've got a big white ass, so I'd never make it in the joint. They'd be trading me for cigarettes and smack in a matter of hours.
ReplyDeleteSince it is not gentleman like to ask your weight, any chance I can get your jeans size? You can email it to me if you like.
@Count: You aren't thinking about trading me in, are ya'??? And I'm just wondering why you want to know our size? I would've told you my weight! (125). I want YOUR height/size etc. It's only fair!
ReplyDeleteBarry: By your description, I think my ex was a terrorist.
ReplyDeleteWhat Yodelay said. That whole groupie following of his, they're gonna run out, buy five copies for their mother (I mean, themselves), squee loudly, and get many more members to their group. It's terrifying that his pretty face carries more weight than his body count.
ReplyDeleteRolling Stone doesn't just cover music. It's most famous cover story of late is the one that basically destroyed Stanley McChrystal's career.It won a Peabody. In fact, it's arguably the magazine article with the most real world impact in the last 10 years. Why should Rolling Stone be obliged to stick to music?
ReplyDeleteMcChrystal ruined his own career. He was well on his way long before that RS article.
Delete@Miss Mess: I aint trading you in. You can be my online bottom bitch. The one my Pimp-pire is built upon.
ReplyDeleteI am 5'11. I wear size 40pants, cause I have meaty thighs and ass and I need room to move. I could probably get away w/ 38, but they aint comfy. Shirt size: xl or xxl depending on the cut and quality.
@Count: Yum. Thanks for the imagery. I would totally take a ride (back in the day, of course). @lc: Count is at the top of the list of reasons I come here. That, and annoying Anna Nonymous et al, and ragging on the Enties. The Count is the bomb.
ReplyDeletewas it a big deal when they put Manson on the cover?..not sure.but RS lost my respect when Daiper boy was featured
ReplyDelete@lc: I blur the lines because I am witty, creative, insightful, and endearing, sometimes adding to a conversation, but at my heart, yes, I am a troll.
ReplyDeleteIf it makes you feel uncomfortable being fond of a troll, then just consider me a SuperStar, like Lola does.
@Count and lc: and I am pretty much the total troll. I'm the troll your mother warned you about. Count is pretty much the only one who doesn't want to have me banned. And that's enough to keep my slutty, inappropriate ass hangin' around.
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ReplyDeleteYou have more fans than just me Miss Mess. Just because they aren't chimin up every 10 minutes, they are out there. Your cheese discussion went over well, and you do a good job spicing things up around here.
ReplyDeleteI did enjoy your brutal persistence as can opener. It really opened my eyes to what you have to offer this community.
Care to tell the tale of your first experience with da buttsecks?? I've given so many here rubbin material, I'd like some in return.
How old, what made ya wanna do it, how was it, how long till the next try?
For.
ReplyDeleteThis is what he looked/looks like. However it's more than just his face, it is what it now represents. He is one of the faces of America. As an immigrant, he is everything that America stands for and everything the country was built on. His family moved here (assumigly) to love the American dream. They lived in a culturally diverse and tolerant neighborhood, made friends, had jobs, and this boy was on all accounts REALLY well adjusted. When something happened within his family nobody really took notice. As with most immigrant families (old school families universally as well) they kept the details of their hardships to themselves and just carried on with the struggle. When the older brother couldn't/wouldn't swim against the tide and when that tide seemed to be sucking him out to sea his lifeboat became his religion. How many kids feel the same and use drugs or alcohol? How many kids (especially immigrants in the same situation!) join gangs? The numbers would probably be pretty distressing. Fact is, the Boston bombing was some jihad act of violence from an unknown part of the world that we would need to search for on a map. These brothers were us/are us. We need to take a good hard look at the way things are done, the kind of people we are and the kind of communities we are creating in our own country to figure out how to make this a little kind of thing a little less likely. The world is becoming a reay scary place.
I'm not condoning the boston bombings. I think what happened was incredibly sad and that nobody on this earth needs to be assume an air of freedom only to have it ripped away in such a deadly fashion. I just don't think I'm naive about it. Many people's lives are ruined on a daily basis bc of acts of terror and violence-a broad spectrum of all sorts of fucked up. The only way to lesson the intensity/scope/whatever is to get to the root of the problem. By brushing it aside and shouting "death" and "Boston strong" people are actually ignoring a fundamental issue-why? And all of this solidarity is actually antithetical to democracy itself on so many levels. The whole situation makes my heart hurt.
Side note-I'm from Rhode Island and went to university in Boston so my love for the city and it's people really knows no bounds. I live overseas now and have for nine years but the east coast will always hold a truly special place in my heart. I think this is why this whole thing is so upsetting to me. Major case of the sadz for all the families affected, the lives lost and torn apart.
You can embrace them all you want, but I wouldn't want to strap an explosive vest on me and blow a bunch of innocents up. No. These type do not assimilate. His own brother got his claws in him. What are his sisters raising? That's just the potentially ugly truth.
DeleteIt's not about embracing anyone. It's about recognizing that evil can come in all forms. Unfortunately, the truth is often times hidden behind a veil of stereotypes. The fact that this kid is not a stereotypical version of evil-not the kind the we want to see makes us turn the other way. Not many people complained when James Holmes appeared in court with red hair looking like the joker bc he looked the crazy part. People like that are easy to spot and therefore shame on us for not doing something about it before. But people who don't look the part fool us so shame on them. Where is our sense of responsibility?
DeleteHonestly, I know very little about this whole case. I know virtually nothing about his sisters so I cannot comment on them. But I do think it is unfair and extremely undemocratic to first assume this man is guilty without being given all the facts and secondly to now accuse his entire family of potentially raising future terrorists. Did we mention the families of James Holmes or the columbine killers? Not so much. I mean I know people talking about parenting or rather lack there of..but were siblings questioned about whether or not they could potentially raise future mass murderers? Not that I don't think people thought that..or that they even thought that themselves..but was it a passing fear or mudslinging found in popular media?
At the end of the day the situation was and will be incredibly tragic for so many people. For some it has altered the course of a personal history and interrupted a sense of continuity for generations to come. But why can we not explore the reasons behind why it happened and see if maybe somewhere along the way we made a wrong turn as a people and as a community? Why can't we face the ugly truth that he was and is one of our own? And why is it that all of us have the balls to talk so much trash but we as a country can't face evil and say "hey, you know what? We don't get you but I want to get you...as in understand you so that this is a rare occurrence and if I happen to see it again I am able to fix this shit before it goes too far and before we lose too many people" rather than this "Boston strong" bullshit that is nothing more than bravado masking an empty sense of community. I said before and I will say it again-I love boston and the people there will all my heart and soul. But this may have been prevented-that we may never know for sure but we can certainly make a valiant effort to at least try and prevent it from happening again. It doesn't start overseas-it happens at home. This is one boy's story that is so relevant and but a small piece of the bigger picture. America as a whole (sweeping generalization I'm aware) seems to have forgotten the fact that America was in fact created by immigrants, for immigrants and that was the beauty of it. Now we have been actively trying to marginalize them(of all colors, creeds etc) and the future is very, very uncertain. I would love for this event to create a sense of awareness about the bigger picture-we may be breeding a new generation of hate because of what we claim to be and what we actually are. If this kids face can create that awareness on even the lowest of levels then I am all for it. Besides..what about freedom of fucking expression? Don't we have a right as a people to say what we want? And to actively choose what to read, watch, or listen to? Exercise that right and enjoy the fact that we still have it-it's why we are here right?
There are millions and millions of émigrés that have and are assimilating successfully. They will continue to do so. Nothing is broken except the hearts and souls that are Hell bent on causing evil and destruction.
DeleteSo so sorry for all the spelling/grammatical errors. I can't scroll back up a d fix them.
ReplyDelete@Count: Gladly. It was about 11 years ago with my current husband (just having gotten rid of husband #1). He had a giant wooden trunk (still does) full of s&m toys--restraints, blindfolds, plugs, whips, etc. I had never tried it, but he is so fucking hot, I was ready and willing. It just happened one night. I was blindfolded, handcuffed, and totally oiled up. Thought it would hurt like hell, but he had me so fucking worked up with the teasing and dirty talk session, I was begging for it. I knew it would be easy to call it off--we use safe words. Some of the best sex ever. There ya' go. YOUR TURN. (Holy fuck--if you don't hear from me, I'll be back under another name--I'll be amazed if I don't get kicked out for this).
ReplyDeleteI was wearing a black lace bustier, fishnets with a garter belt, and a satin thong. We do it once in awhile still, but usually don't do the whole production.
Delete@Count: I was in my mid20s. Only married to asshole #1 for 2 years. Don't want you thinkin' I'm REALLY that trailer trash, welfare lovin' cheap drunk I play on TV. I'm actually highly educated and lucky enough to enjoy a fairly privileged life. This is just a hobby I've recently taken up. And you've made it impossible to put down.
ReplyDeleteDon't care. His face was splattered all over the news for days/weeks on end. What difference does ONE cover make (one that calls him a monster, btw)?
ReplyDelete@Miz Mess. Damn! That's...hot! ;)
ReplyDelete@Anon: It was! The Count owes us a story--think he's still reading this one? Maybe rereading for grammatical and punctuation errors.
DeleteOh, Miz, but we're not the Enty/s! Less errors, less correction (well, *we* may need correction of a different kind! *wink*) but he should be gracing us with his presence shortly, right?
ReplyDelete@Anon: Do we have another recruit? Welcome to the party. I love/need/crave correction. I also love/need/crave/deserve and am entitled to some reciprocation. Do we need to start a Kickstarter campaign?
DeleteI'm neutral. It's a readily available photograph, one that we've seen before. It's not a photo from a specially arranged photoshoot (not that such a thing could be arranged now).
ReplyDeleteAnd more to the point, photos of criminals (both the merely accused and the convicted) have been used to sell newspapers and magazines as long as there have been printing presses and photographs.
During Prohibition, it was Al Capone and Pretty Boy Floyd and Bonnie and Clyde. Now it's this guy.
Argh. I read it all. It was way too long for my tastes. My conclusions are that the people surrounding him were totally clueless about who he was. The story didn't really shed much light onto anything for me. I really want an interview with the sister-in-law who converted and with the bomber suspect himself. I really don't give an eff about his circle of stoner mates and his former coach. The end.
ReplyDeleteHe's Hot, He's Sexy and He's not Dead.
ReplyDeleteNOTE: This is a 2 part story, as I found out we are restricted to 4,096 characters.
ReplyDeleteIt aint getting you kicked off. They love this shit, there are probably readers who come here hoping for stuff like this.
My turn? Yes ma'am.
I was 25, she was 19. I wasn't the buttseckspert I am today, but we took a chance to try and experience everything young love had to offer. Having talked about it previously, she bought the book Anal Pleasure and Health and I bought lube. She read the book prior to our encounter and showed me the highlights before we commenced.
I went down on her, using my fingers and tongue to bring her to a sweaty, noisy orgasm. When she caught her breath, she got on all 4's, wiggled her ass and said, "It's all yours."
Thoughts of the beautiful sight that was before me still cause tingles in my undies. A gorgeous, pale white, delicate, 19 year old tush high in the air, offering me untold pleasures. I wanted to eat it soooo badly, but I was too nervous. I had never done that before and I didn't know what kind of reaction it would garner, so I kept focused on the task at hand: fitting my cock into that lil brown ring.
I started off with a lubed up finger, slowly and gently pressing it against the lovely starfish. The first muscle of the sphincter is the easy gate to pass, that second one though, that is the make or break moment. She was nervous and hesitant, but started to rock back onto my finger at her own pace. Before I knew it, I was 2 knuckles deep and slowly moving it in and out, trying to get a good coating of lube on everything and waiting for the balloon knot to relax.
I was practically weak in the knees, from the excitement of it all. That was good actually, because it distracted me from feeling like a moron having my finger in a hot girl's butt. Once the finger's movement became easier and more fluid, I pulled it out, lubed up and second one and went back in, to try and stretch it enough to accommodate me. Once that was accomplished, it was time for the main event.
By this time she was in Down Doggy. I moved from my knees to my feet, used a liberal amount of lubricant, and squatted down while bending my cock to achieve a suitable angle for entry. I just held the head against it as she start to rack backwards on to me. Short strokes, just easing every thing together. Then I heard a low moan, saw her clench the sheets in her fist and felt that dainty anus swallow my manhood to the base.
"HOLY SHIT I'M IN AND IT FEELS SO FUCKING GOOD!" was running through my brain, but all I could say is, "Are you OK?" A deep breath and a close eyed nod was the reply I received. I held myself there for a moment, basking in the accomplishment, soaking in all the feelings trying to come up with anything comparable. You ever give yourself a ponytail with one of those fat cloth covered rubber band holders, then weasel your finger through the pony tail hair and pop it through the holder? Add to that the warm, soft buttocks pressed against my loins and you have the highly intoxicating combination that I was experiencing.
ReplyDeleteI started with soft and gentle medium strokes, as she was stationary. Once I felt a rhythm starting, I picked up the pace, being sure to pay attention to her facial expression and use it as my guide. Mouth agape, low loud moans, all is well. Mouth closed, silence and scrunched eyed wincing, "Are you OK? Want some more lube?"
This was my second nut of the afternoon, so I had some time to try stuff. I nudged her forward and onto her belly, my legs straddled outside of hers. I put my hands over top of hers and interlocked our fingers as I rode that soft lil butt, grinding into her chittlins, not long stroking. "UH....UH...UH...Fuck my tight little UH 19 year old ass you UH dirty pig." Oh lord, sexier words were never spoken.
After a little more of that, we lubed up again and went back to doggy. I don't really know if she was getting into it or wanted to get it over with, but she started backing the ass into me harder, and I took that as a cue to start pounding. I latched hold of her hips and jack hammered until she half crawled away. Back to medium force long strokes, and she settled in for a while.
I began to notice the wincing again. I stopped and asked if she was ok, she replied she was fine. This happened 2 more times before I said, "We can stop if you want. It aint like I'll be upset, I'm ecstatic we went this long." Silence. "I'm not bullshitting, if you want to stop, we can." She tapped out, I pulled out.
She was disappointed with herself that I didn't blow a load. We laid on the bed spooning. Her head on my left arm, my right hand caressing her body. I explained that I was much better we retreat, and live to fight another day, rather than wind up hurting her and turning her off to the whole thing. About 20 minutes I laid there with her, thanking her and telling her how wonderful it was and how good it felt and "hey, we should try it in this position next time," until I got her giggling and her past the sadness she felt.
I have taken some trips to Greece since, both spontaneous and well planned, some times utilizing all manner of equipment to assist in the matter, but none compares to the first time I nestled my little friend into puckered 19 year old heaven.
It seems like yesterday
But it was long ago
The butt was lovely, it was the queen of my nights
There in the darkness with the radio playing low
And the lube that we shared
The buttocks that I moved
Fucked like a wildman out of control
Till there was nothing left to bang and nothing left to prove
And I remember what she said to me
How she moaned to cum in her back end
I remember how her butt held me oh so tight
Wish I could still plow what I did plow then
Against the butt
I was grinding' against the butt
I was young and strong, I was grinding'
Against the butt............
@Flora: Perfect response on a blog like this in a comment thread like this. Would've 'liked' it earlier but I was fucking my husband in the backyard on our lawn furniture.
ReplyDelete@Count: just got this. Need time to read it. Don't you dare go to bed until I reply.
ReplyDeleteI'm furious about this cover. FURIOUS! The cover is supposed to be an HONOR. This glorifies a total douchebag and criminal MURDERER. Now guess what? Other losers will now think that terrorism is the gateway to fame. My stepson has a subscription and I'm gonna rip the cover off and tear out the article and f---ing burn it as soon as it arrives. If it weren't a gift from his bio mom I'd freaking cancel it. Yes. I am THAT angry.
ReplyDeleteRolling Stone probably has some of the best journalism in-between pages of tripe about what constitutes today's music industry. I know this is going to be a good piece.
ReplyDeleteStores boycotting it only makes my cheap ass want to spring for an issue for some reason.
Agree. RS has become one of the last bastions of American journalism.
Delete@Count: First and foremost: if my husband knew about these exchanges, he would be sending you a personal thank you note. The anticipation of this got him a proper servicing in the backyard. Second, my guy told me anal is the best thing his Johnson has had the pleasure of visiting. He came almost immediately. Mind you, that didn't stop him from a few more hours of hammering. He would also be sending you a follow-up TY for the damage I'm going to let him do later. The wait was worth it. And finally, why didn't you have that Happy Ending? Good God, you know the way to a girl's heart. And every other organ and orifice. xoxo, Kym
ReplyDeleteAnd, I don't know why I love fucking you so hard on the net. I AM happily married. Maybe it's shower material or creative inspiration. Either way, I hope we can always be friends. Different time, place, circumstance, who knows? Think I'll go get some of my Victoria's Secret shit out of the closet and spit shine my honey's Docs.
ReplyDelete@Miss Mess: She was upset, and needed consoling. This was an adventure in love, not a skank I gave an 8ball to in exchange for bunghole boning. I wouldn't have stopped if that was the case.
ReplyDeleteCount: You are clearly a gentleman and a scholar. Take that fucking "ain't" out of the story. I look forward to tomorrow, and so does my man. He just doesn't know it. xoxo, Kym
ReplyDeleteLol...I think a few people's husbands will appreciate this little bedtime story!!
ReplyDelete;)
Night, all
"i got all the friends,
ReplyDeletethat money can buy,
so I never have to be alone.
and I keep getting richer,
but I can't get my picture;
on the COVER OF THE ROLLIN STONE"
it's seen like getting an award for being "ultra cool".
against.
Well, this certainly plays into the "OMG he's TOO CUTE to be a terrorist OMGWTF ELEVENTY!!!" mindset so prevalent on Tumblr.
ReplyDeleteI suppose Lee Harvey Oswald would have been a teen idol if he were alive and murdering today. ::shrug:: People are just completely mindless and insane today. I blame social media.
Can you imagine if social media had been around in the days of Manson? Or Jim what's his name from Texas? I truly shudder just thinking about it.
DeleteWell now, this is an interesting Penthouse Forum!
ReplyDelete@SayWhat: You're welcome! Feel free to share your own stories! xoxo
DeleteI tell ya what, I actually enjoyed writing my story out. I even did a copy/paste in word so I could read it one night after I dig up the pics from their hiding spot.
ReplyDelete@Count: And I REALLY enjoyed reading it--last night AND this morning (which pretty much killed the batteries in my favorite vibrator).
DeleteLol - It's so ironic, or maybe predictable, that a man 5'11 and a size 40, would base fuckability of a female on her weight (or jean size). I thought you were cool, until that happened.
ReplyDelete@Jessica: Who is basing fuckability? I'm trying to create a mental picture, since I don't have photos to go by.
ReplyDeleteDon't be so quick to judge, I am way more complex than the average creep.
@jessica - I think they established the fuckability way before the jeans came up. I believe they are now adding depth and character to the storyline for us.
ReplyDeleteSit bit and enjoy the show.
Ann Nah, my comment was a reference to this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.superhypeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/22804_lg.jpg
a lot of people are comparing the photos.
You and the count can carry on...
I think she is down for the night Flora. Her hubby probably has her ball gagged and tied to a chair so he can watch the Padres game. If dinner was good, I'm sure he jammed a Hitachi under her and plugged it in.
ReplyDeleteCount, WOW. it's like you're right outside my window! Except that my guy doesn't watch baseball. Also, he didn't waste time tying me up, just bent my ass over the bed and fucked it so hard I almost cried. Oh, and Hitachi? Nuh-uh. Sharp. Just like a lot of other things. xoxo, Kym
ReplyDeleteSharp makes a "Personal Massager"?
ReplyDeleteHitachi Magic Wand or one of them multi function jelly ones w/ the rotating beads and the dolphin/rabbit clit vibe on it are usually what a broad will say is her fave vibe.
I'm sure an experienced size queen suck as yourself indulges in a rubber Vibrating Fist of Andonis though ;)
@Flora, I saved that magazine. Everyone else put their Jim Morrison cover on their dorm room door. Guess what? I found out my parents recycled 100's on my Rolling Stones magazines :( I wish I still had my hot, sexy dead Jim magazine.
ReplyDeleteCount: A whore I may be, but I'm still tight like a teen. Pelvic exercises--every girl should do them. My man is gettin' out the riding crop and the handcuffs tonight. Yep, the whole production starts around 11:oo. Gotta say, some of the credit goes to you. Of course I'll fill you in on the deets!
ReplyDelete@Miss Mess: When he gives you a wack with the crop and you think you can't take one any harder, tell him "Harder" and that next one is from me.
ReplyDeleteCount: I can take it pretty hard. I imagine my tight little ass will look similar to your profile pic. The last one's for you.
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