There seem to be two camps in the Cory Monteith story. I'm not talking about his tragic death which can be most likely attributed to the booze and other substances found in his hotel room. The story I am talking about is whether Cory was still with Lea Michele at the time of his death. There are some people who say the couple was getting married in two weeks and that Lea in Mexico and Cory in Vancouver were their respective last flings as single people. There are others though who said they had split because of some things going on between them and this was them taking a break and re-evaluating their relationship. I know there have been tons of stories about how much they were in love and that is great and if everyone wants a happy memory of the couple then I am all for it. I am just offering an alternative, which I have heard from more than a few people as to why they both suddenly decided to vacation apart in separate countries and reportedly had not communicated to each other more than a handful of times in the week prior to Cory's death.
It doesn't matter. Her level of devastation is still the same. I feel so sorry for her.
ReplyDeleteSome time well after my ex-boyfriend died, I realized that he was my ex because he had deliberately pushed me away, knowing that he'd be taking his life and wanting to spare me the devastation. We can't know what was going through their heads - maybe Cory's demons just wouldn't leave him alone.
ReplyDeleteEither way, Lea has my sincere sympathy.
^^ exactly
ReplyDeleteAgree with saucy and alex
DeleteI read tonight on Australian ninemsn that there was no alcohol found in his room and police were not investigating any foul play. I thought it also said there were no illegal substances. Maybe that's since changed. It wouldn't be the first time ninemsn got everything wrong. I honestly don't know why I read that site. Must be because me email defaults me there.
ReplyDeleteI read the same thing that there wasn't any alcohol or drugs found in his room by the police and now a conflicting story from the coroner's office. The news needs to get facts straight before they start publishing stories about someone who can't defend themselves. My prayers go out to cory's family and lea.
Delete@Renoblondee, I agree that she must be devastated under either circumstance.
ReplyDeleteI also don't think it's necessary to paint a post-mortem happy face on what may have been an unhappy relationship, as was attempted with JFK Jr and his wife.
(The 'exactly' was for renoblondee's comment)
ReplyDeleteMeh. I care more about the pain his family must be feeling.
ReplyDeleteIf he as depressed because of his relationship and o.d.-ed, it's not our business. The guy is dead, the private details with Lea are hers to deal with. I have never been a fan of Lea, but for HER sake, can we not speculate? What difference would it make? That's jmo.
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ReplyDeleteI read that he hadn't been living with his LA room mates for some time before his death that leads me to believe he spent most of his time at Lea's anyways.
ReplyDeleteAlso, this article states he planned to move all his things to Lea's house upon returning to LA, and there's an accompanying photo of his Range Rover still parked in her driveway (which makes me sad all over again).
"...communicated to each other..." Um, what??
ReplyDeleteI hate the girl, bur let her mourn in peace. Please.
ReplyDeleteHate is an extreme word for someone I'm assuming you don't know.
ReplyDeleteI actually don't doubt that she adored him - if they were 're-evaluating' their relationship then more than likely it was in reaction to his (probable) continued drug abuse post rehab.
Dislike the girl all you want, but I rather suspect she put her all in to trying to make a relationship with a drug addict work. And maybe, if it wasn't going to work it wasn't because she loved him any less.
Whatever, I'm still sad about his death - and sad for his family and Lea, wherever their relationship might have been at the end.
You read too much into my comment. Just because her boyfriend died doesn't make her anymore likeable- sorry. It doesn't. But it does mean that I will respect her privacy and sympathize with her loss. No matter how much of a diva she is, her bf died. That's hard.
Deletethe vancouver police have said there was no evidence of illegal drugs in the room.
ReplyDeleteI had a boyfriend in college that died while we were "taking a break" - if anything, that just made it harder to process the whole thing
ReplyDeleteI've said it before on other threads, but I disagree with the whole 'hands off and let's not talk about it' approach.
ReplyDeleteCory Monteith had a huge fan base of young people. If some of those fans can learn to recognize the signs of depression, of how to help people who struggle with addiction, they can use those lessons for the rest of their lives and help a lot of people who are still alive.
To me, that's one of the huge upsides of celebrity, that it allows us to talk about things that might otherwise be individualized and hidden, and to realize that we're not alone in the challenges we face.
imo, if there was any tension between them, it was over Cory's inability to stay clean, and had nothing to do with their feelings for one another.
ReplyDeleteI know a little about this, due to someone close to the situation. They were NOT getting married. Lea was also very supportive of him, and they were still together.
ReplyDeleteYou don't stop loving someone over night, and no matter what you may feel about her, she is still a human being and lost someone she shared a great deal of her time with over the last few years. What the nature of their relationship was at the time of his death is really none of our business. She is still entitled to mourn his death in her own way on her own timeline.
ReplyDeleteNo matter what, it's tough to love an addict, tougher when they are active, certainly, but no picnic even when they are clean. Addicts have lifetime issues. I know from years of experience. These are people with holes in their souls. The ones who do the best recognize it and deal with it every day, consciously.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Moonmaid. I have someone close to me who is an addict, and your words were much needed. Hang in there.
ReplyDeleteWhat difference does any of this make now ? Cory's dead and Lea has to live with that pain...
ReplyDeleteIf the blind is true about Lea becoming pregnant while Cory was in rehab, I think that's enough to put a wedge in between them. It appeared he immersed himself in his projects, with friends near his hometown, right before his death. Such a tragedy.
ReplyDeleteCory who?
ReplyDeleteDid u need to comment at all? How rude.
DeleteI have no sympathy for whitefolks whose deaths are self-inflicted especially on light of what's going with Trayvon. I just don't care.
DeleteCan't find a fuck to give for Cory.
These nonstop stories don't help in providing an open forum on addiction. If anyone hasn't noticed, off topic comments on varied subjects in the personal lives of commenters have been here for as long as this site has been up.
ReplyDeleteHow about more Lohan stories? She is a walking lesson on the dangers of drugs. There's no need to exploit the death of someone when there are plenty of actors out there still alive with these issues.
Also, I find it to be complete bullshit that people in the Lohan post are calling her a cockroach. Someone mentioned she will be dead as soon as she leaves rehab and goes on a bender. They then come here and express how bad they feel for Monteith and his loved ones. The fuck?
There are no winners here no matter what was going on. It sounds like they were still together. Regardless, losing someone you are close to is devastating even if there were complications in their relationship. My thoughts are with Lea. So sad.
ReplyDeleteI'm still sad about his death. We don't know why he died, but a young life cut off early after years of drugs and depression is a hard life to live and a sad way to go. For anyone. With depression, sometimes one thinks there will be better days, if you fight a little harder, try a little harder it will get easier. It doesn't. Realizing you are shaped by circumstances beyond your control or have addictions beyond your control and you will always have to be weary and cautious is not an easy life. In saying beyond control I don't mean choice, I mean neurochemistry and genetics. I guess that is what makes his death sad to me. He tried to beat addiction and depression and didn't... Don't mean to be maudlin, guess I just needed to express some feelings about this. Whatever the case I wish his friends and family lots of healing and recovery.
ReplyDelete"I am just offering an alternative, which I have heard from more than a few people as to why they both suddenly decided to vacation apart in separate countries and reportedly had not communicated to each other more than a handful of times in the week prior to Cory's death"
ReplyDeletenot really - Enty, you are not offering anything, no facts, no story, no details. You are just hinting, insinuating doubts and not really sharing any more insight to this situation.
If you do not want to share details you have for respect of the person who died and all the people who love him, zip it.
If you do not have any facts and you are just trying to milk the situation for clicks, zip it.
If you have facts to share, share them
I am not a moralist, I won't say "we should stop talking about him" etc - but for eff sake talk if you have something to say. if you have got nothing, STFU
It doesn't matter whether they were taking a break or not, she is devastated.
ReplyDeleteI really hate comments/innuendo like these, enty. Who gives a shit if they are together or not (you've shown us most of hollywood is just contractual/pr shit anyway). The issue is that a young man is dead. Lea (whoever she is) will be grieving and it's not up to us to decide how much, how often or for how long. He's dead, FFS.
ReplyDelete@Pip & @L, I think the difference is that Lilo is universally despised and Cory generally adored. It's OK to smack on someone everyone hates already (cockroach, die already, etc.) but talk smack about Finn Hudson and we're gonna have to sing this out!
ReplyDeletewhy they both suddenly decided to vacation apart in separate countries and reportedly had not communicated to each other more than a handful of times in the week prior to Cory's death.
This is pretty funny, though. Canada and the US are separate countries, but it's not like England and Brazil. It's Vancouver, B.C., a three hour plane ride to Los Angeles.
And a handful would be approximately five, right? There are seven days in a week, so if they talked to each other approx five days... that would be almost every day the week before before he died. Will your next suggestion be that she encouraged him to do some dangerous? I mean, you could put it out there as an alternative....
just to be clear ....
ReplyDeleteLilo is a rancid, thief, perpetual and dangerous liar, has threatened the lives of numerous people w/ her careless, excuses excuses driving, blows the costs of movie/tv sets outta the universe because she's absent and or f***ked up on drugs/booze, uses people/sabotage court systems, steals and lies, etc etc....it has NOTHING to do w/ her drug addiction...she's a thankless/hurtful/conniving bitch...
cory? i never knew him, never heard a bad thing about him. he struggled w/ his addiction (as did lilo) BUT he tried, on his own accord and to my knowledge was a good person.
THAT'S the difference and i'm not apologizing for it.
Yes! I have a lot more sympathy for addicts that have taken that first step of just admitting, "Hey things aren't right". Cory and Lilo have the same issues but I see one who tried and tried and one who just makes excuses after excuses. It's sad that someone who seemed so nice and friendly was that troubled.
DeleteI have PTSD from severe childhood trauma but I can't use that as an excuse for being a terrible person. All I can do is try to keep things under control and say "I'm sorry" a lot. But I am nothing if I don't try. Yeah, the world did this to me but I won't let them take my decency. That belongs to me.
Erika, I agree. Lilo is remorseless with zero integrity or character. Cory was just the opposite.
ReplyDeleteAnd since nothing in life is fair, Lilo is still alive with her hand out to Oprah while Cory's life is over.
To call that sad is a gross understatement.
If no cause of death has been released, do we know he died from depression? Or drug use? Or both?
ReplyDelete@NapAssasin, further toxicology tests need to be conducted before an exact cause of death can be determined.
ReplyDeleteSince they carefully stated that it didn't involve any "illicit" drugs, I'm half expecting it was due to a combination of alcohol and prescription drugs.
Whether they were together or had separated it is still awful for her and his family and friends.
ReplyDeleteIf she was committed to him, she's lost her partner. If by chance she had separated from him because of him using, she'll never forgive herself and will feel guilty for not being with him--thinking she could have done anything.
He was a young talented man who is dead and it's sad. Addiction is an awful thing to suffer and if it killed him, it is horrible for everyone associated with him.
I read this morning that they may push back the season for Glee to give them more time to decide how to handle it. He is such a key character, I think the show is going to be very careful how they address it.
I wish his friends and family peace. They are going to have to go through hearing his name in the press constantly in addition to having lost him.
Erika, you could've just said she is a destructive drug addict, doing what addicts do. Do you expect someone that deep onto drugs to have much integrity? She has sex for money and uses it for drugs. The chick doesn't respect herself, how does one think she will respect others?
ReplyDeleteI suppose Cory doesn't get the vitriol because he was a "good drug addict". Sorry, I feel there is no big difference.
Get the fuck over it @just curious. 'what's going on with Trayvon'. REALLY?! Get the fuck over it. You don't think both of these cases are somewhat similar?! YES. They both passed due to their own indirect actions.
ReplyDeleteThis another rich whiteboy with too many superficial problems .
DeleteGood riddance.
Lohan , Bynes, Sheen ..... Hopefully this will be your future.
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ReplyDeletePip- i take your point. But as someone who has watched tons of addiction stories and shows on thectube, i tealized that some addicts you feel really sorry for, and others youre like, ugh, die already. I know it isnt nice but aside from being addicts, they are people. And some people are likable and some arent.
ReplyDeleteI wonder too at the hate for lilo. I dont pay mych attention to her, i just dont care about her one way or the other. But she sure elicits strong feelings from people, mostly negative. I wonder why.
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ReplyDeleteI'm getting really tired of everyone assuming that he overdosed. Yes, I know why people are assuming that, but a lot of outlets are stating it as fact and it hasn't been proven yet.
ReplyDeleteAnd, like someone else mentioned, there were no illicit drugs found in his room, contrary to other reports.
I think the hard part is that she won't hr able to stop questioning what she could gave done differently to save him. Like many of you, I'm not her biggest fan but I have no doubt this will torture her for some time to come.
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ReplyDeleteYou have a chip on your shoulder. You also make me question if black people can be racists because you are a raging bitch of a racist.
Cory and Trayvon both deserve our sympathy. How dare you! Death knows no color.
I was reading one if the comments from this weekend 's trial . The OP said whites brings out racism in blacks with stuff like Trayvon happens. I knew Zimmerman was gonna walk but the reality was still ugly .
Trayvon's death could have been avoided if that cunt had stayed in the fuckin' car.
ReplyDeleteCory the crackhead was a druggie . Good riddance. You're over 30 and still playing teenagers in high school, you prolly OD as well.
But you are pissed when people say shit like that about Trayvon, that he is a thug and deserved to die. So WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU SAY THE SAME SHIT ABOUT CORY, an innocent man?
DeleteQuit fighting fire with fire before you burn out.
Trayvon is no different than most young brothers that Whites grouped together as thugs. There were whites who believed Rodney King deserved to be beating by those 4 white cops ( one cop was white Hispanic) even after seeing the tape.
DeleteTrayvon was 19 and minding his business. There was no reason for him to die. Maybe you're a fan of Glee, I don't watch the show but this whiteboy was over 30. He's been drugging all his life . He knew better.
Trayvon was innocent, this piece of shit was a dope fiend.
Fire with Fire......I'm not a paciFIST. The reason why the Cold War between the U.S. and Russia lasted so long was because both sides were afraid of each other. They both had nukes. Countries have peace treaties with one another because they both have the capability to defend or attack.
Whitefolks in general don't care about Blacks. They would never put someone else's welfare ahead of their own. They never have in the past and never will.
@just, STFU, if you use 'prolly' you're an idiot, too.
ReplyDeleteI use "prolly" for Probably just for shorthand.
DeleteSTFU???
Can't be no more of an idiot than you are, apparently you respond well to idiocy.
I'm just tired of hearing about young, wealthy, and ungrateful celebrities squandering the gifts they've been given. If this guy hadn't died, if he'd been arrested instead, or killed someone else while driving, we'd all be on this site talking about what a loser he is like we do about Lindsay. We'd be calling his girlfriend an enabler, we'd be calling the people at Glee money-grubbing bastards, and we'd be asking why celebrities get away with a slap on the wrist. But instead, just like Heath Ledger, he didn't use his money, fame, and connections to stay clean and now he's dead.
ReplyDeleteI have (had) friends who didn't have their money, fame, and connections and guess what? Some of them managed to get themselves clean despite the odds. And some of them were dead a lot quicker. The second group may have benefitted from their money, fame, and connections. Assholes.
Cory Monteith died from heroin and alcohol overdose
ReplyDelete"The Glee actor, who was found dead in his hotel room on Saturday at the age of 31, died from a 'mixed drug toxicity, involving heroin and alcohol,' according to authorities.
The British Columbia Coroners Service revealed the autopsy results on Tuesday."
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Having been a big fan of Glee the first two seasons, I still followed Cory's career even when I stopped watching. I was always of the thought that they were just good friends and their "relationship" was for publicity...now I don't know. Perhaps it was real the entire time or the lines got blurred somewhere...
ReplyDeleteEither way, I'm saddened over his death, and I'm sorry he couldn't fight his addiction.
Met him on a Good Friday at a Four Seasons hotel (not in LA) A couple of years ago. Almost the entire cast was with him, but only he and Jane Lynch were truly friendly to people who crossed their paths.
ReplyDelete@Tiger Lilly - I agree usually with your comment, but the difference with Cory Monteith (sp?) is that he became addicted to drugs when he was 13 and first went to rehab at 19. He was a cab driver and Walmart greeter before he started getting bit parts. The fame didn't lead to drugs, but it also didn't help him get away from them. From every interview I had heard of his (and they were few, as it was really only when he was quoted for talking about his addictions that I sought out the interview), he was trying to get clean and show young people that you could overcome depression and addiction. Unfortunately he couldn't.
ReplyDelete..And the only reason I paid any attention to this was because there's a lot of addiction and depression in my family...
And at @just curious, I don't even want to step foot in Florida again. An awful f*cking message was just sent to people there. Stalk someone, get them to start fighting and you can fucking shoot them. But you better kill the other guy, because if you fire a warning shot up in the air you'll go away for 20 years. WTF Florida.
I hope someone kills Zimmerman , I really do. He's Hispanic , more brown than white but he has the nerve to profile someone else knowing very well if he walk through certain neighborhoods without a rake, leave blower or green card ,they'll try to ship his ass back because that's what they'll see: an illegal.
DeleteYou need help. Wishing death on another person is morally wrong.
Deletei'm sure its just as devastating either way for her. It's hard to be in a relationship with an addict. Very.
ReplyDeleteMy 1st serious boyfriend, from when I was 16 died an alcohol related death recently. We broke for 20 years ago. I still cried.
ReplyDeleteFuck Enty.
ReplyDeleteI feel sorry for everyone who loved/cared for Cory.
ReplyDeleteI didn't watch a single episode of Glee and couldn't have picked him out in a picture. Only read things about him mainly on here. Seems like everyone who has talked about him only had good things to say about him and the only gossip was about his addiction. Then again, you don't usually hear people say right after a person's death - "oh that person was a so and so." It doesn't really matter though to his family and loved ones. They are still grieving and many of them will either play the blame game with themselves or others in his life. Ultimately it is no one's fault but Cory's and his addiction. I don't know anything about his family and if they were money grubbing enablers or were supportive of him and tried to do everything they could to help - or something in between.
The difference I think for a lot of us in regards to LiLo is that not only has she never taken responsibility for anything in her life (and I do blame her parents for a lot of this), but her parent's don't really seem to do anything to try and help because then their mealticket/way to make as much money would be gone.
I have a lot of experience with addicts and the lifestyle. It really sucks and takes a major toll on everyone involved. I was married to an addict (heck I'm one) and I tried to support him as much as I could, but even when he was "clean" he still didn't take responsibility for anything he did and when he was using he always used his bad childhood, ADHD, I was mad him because he wasn't working, he had to stand in a long line at the grocery store, the light didn't turn green fast enough, or whatever stupid excuse came out of his mouth. Sadly there are differences in addicts, but a lot of times it is how many times you have personally been burned by the person that makes your opinion change. I know at one point if I had heard my ex was dead I would be so sad and blame myself for not doing enough to save him. I then went through a phase where I couldn't wait to get the notification that he was found dead of an overdose. Now I'm at the phase where I don't care (other than it would make the divorce simpler since it still isn't finalized - but no we don't have any kids). I don't care how feels and I don't care how his family feels. I've already mourned the loss of him and everything and just want it all done.
Legendary Blues Singer Lester Chambers, 73, is recovering after being violently attacked while the legendary blues singer was performing a dedication to Trayvon Martin.
ReplyDeleteHe suffered bruised ribs, nerve damage and an “8-inch scratch in the kidney area of his back.”
It happened just hours before George Zimmerman walked free, Saturday. Chambers was singing Curtis Mayfield’s civil rights era song “People Get Ready,” when — at 4:16 of the YouTube video (shot during Hayward-Russell City Blues Festival) — 43-year-old Dinalynn Andrews Potter (whitebitch) jumps on stage, screams “it’s all your fault” and knocks the blues singer down.
As far as I can tell, Monteith was not a thief, a person who had a string of hit-and-run car accidents, nor a high-end gigolo. There have been no reports of on-set shenanigans from him, although admittedly that could have been suppressed.
ReplyDeleteHe was obviously a substance abuser for whom rehab did not take. That is his only resemblance to Lohan. Of course people are going to diss her while absolving him. She's been a far higher-profile mess for a long time now.
As for Monteith's relationship with Michelle - my niece was married to a substance abuser whom she [fortunately] divorced before he died of an overdose a few years later. She was still in love with him when she divorced him (he was sweet and a ringer for Brad Pitt) but she couldn't take the instability of their lives anymore. He wouldn't get help. He lost jobs, used what little money they had on drugs and basically messed up their lives completely.
I'm not saying this is exactly what happened between Monteith and Michelle, but there's a good chance something like this did transpire.
All I know is, despite the fact that they'd been apart for so long and she had remarried, my niece was gutted by her ex-husband's death.
My boyfriend has just disappeared with a large amount of money and a large habit. Who knows if he's even going to come back and if he does what state is he going to be in? either way, my life as i know is done.
ReplyDeletedon't be too hard on the kid. you don't know what kind of pain he was in.