This A list mostly movie actress was spotted smoking at a restaurant. This is despite the fact that she is pregnant. She has said that she cuts back, but does not quit smoking while pregnant.
The Queen. Phil was really having a vasectomy, about time considering how the previous tries turned out.
I wish that were true. I really do - "one is having one's spliff so please inform the Prime Minister that I shall see him when he's brought some munchies."
Kate Winslet seems more likely to me, being European. A German co-worker of mine had a glass of wine at a holiday party while pregnant and didn't understand why everyone was freaking out about it.
I've seen many women smoking while pregnant in Paris as well as mothers smoking while pushing a stroller. No one blinked an eye. It's very uncommon in this country, you would be lambasted doing that on the streets of NYC.
If you take a poll of those women that were mothers 30, 40 or 50 years ago, you will discover that many, and I mean MANY smoked during pregnancy. I'm a product of that and I'm fine, no issues at all and none of my 3 siblings have ever had issues either.
I also smoked when I was pregnant - over 20 years ago and both of my children are fine.
I don't know if the cigarette's of today are made with ingredients that were used back then or not.
If I were to do it all over again, I would quit, but I have no regrets.
Some doctors will tell a pregnant woman who smokes to gradually cut down and perhaps not even quit at all (just a few a day, like FrenchGirl said) so as not to stress the baby whilst the woman might be going through withdrawal. I've never been pregnant, but several friends of mine have told me this.
This all tracks back to the (mostly) ridiculous propaganda put out by the anti-tobacco lobby starting while Bill Clinton was in office. When I was a kid, more people smoked than didn't, more pregnant women smoked than didn't, and there were no more medically impaired babies born back then than now. Only people in this country were ever stupid enough to buy into that kind of nonsense. It's the same with the assertion of the anti-tobacco fanatics that "quitting smoking saves lives." Bull. Quitting smoking, or never being around it, has never saved even a SINGLE life. Every such person is still going to die anyway, perhaps a decade later at best, and possibly from something other than lung cancer, but they'll still die because that's what people do eventually.
The anti-smoking freaks played on the fact that they knew so many Americans have the youth fetish, and were gullible enough to believe that some kind of "magic bullet" exists that, if can only be found, will keep people from dying entirely.
The Clintons went along with it because it played to a big segment of their base of do-gooders who revel in any opportunity to screw around with the private lives of people, and because it gave the government a chance to open up a whole new revenue stream by imposing punitive taxation on smokers. State governments, even those in the hands who profess to be all about "small government," have also jumped at the chance to open up that revenue stream in the form of punitive state taxes on tobacco.
Robert you are a moron. Girls are in porns because they like sex and smoking doesn't kill you. My slippers have more brains than you. Can't even be bothered to list a detailed argument as this thinking is just too stupid, like someone saying the world is flat
@Robert - how much are the tobacco companies paying you to write that crap? Tobacco companies that make cancer sticks are no better than heroin and meth dealers - and they've killed far more people. They are a bunch of legal murderers.
So because we are all going to die, we should just smoke and risk the lives of others and ourselves? Why don't you go play in traffic and see how that works for you. Just dumb...
Oh big damn deal. This culture freakin' crucifies mothers-to-be for being anything less than absolutely flawless when they're expecting. My mother quit smoking for me and I was born with premature with pneumonia but my older brother (who she smoked with) was perfectly fine. This is not to mention the generations before that drank and smoked to their hearts content while pregnant and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that their grandparents had FASD.
Eat your sushi, smoke and drink if you want, exercise or don't, stay vegan or keep eating red meat or WHATEVER because it's your damn kid and it's not ours or Enty's job to police what you do.
My grandmother and all of her family would've appreciated an extra 10 years or so with her. She developed lung cancer because her care taker smoked throughout the day. And no she didn't have a caretaker because she was ill, just some pretty bad arthritis, but she insisted on living alone.
One glass of wine isn't going to hurt a pregnant woman or the baby. A bottle..eh, no. The smoker, hmm, no comment. I cut way down to one or two cigarettes a day(years ago) my kid was 8lbs, so yes. It's better for the baby to quit I'd have killed people without a cig. Honestly, I almost killed folks anyway--preg hormones were awful for me. Ugh. This is why she's an only spawn.
I think it's better for the baby if their mother does not smoke while pregnant. However, the stress and negative emotions of the mother can be just as harmful to a baby.
An occasional drink is not going to harm an unborn child.
Every culture has their own taboo. I think it's ironic, that the majority of american parents will isolate their newborns in a room to sleep, all by themselves, and if someone does not follow this practice, they're considered "fringe", or weird. The majority of the world will keep a newborn close to the mother, even in the same bed, because the child needs the physical contact and emotional reassurance. It's also an interesting fact, that the majority of SIDS deaths (aka crib death), happens when the child is all alone in their room. not co-sleeping in the bed with mom.
@catlady - I'm sorry, but your SIDS statistic is completely incorrect. I work in a pediatric hospital, and yes, SIDS happens with extra blankets, pillows, etc. in a crib, but it's extremely common to see a baby brought in dead or near death from a parent accidentally rolling over on them. And also, SIDS is NOT called "crib death," it stands for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome and it goes for any infant under 1 year whose cause of death is not fully explainable by autopsy. I appreciate different parenting styles, and can't say whether one is better than the other, but it's irresponsible to state your opinion as fact.
Ugh. Don't even get me started on the co-sleeping thing. I believe that every individual needs their space. My kids get lots of love and affection during the day, but at night their going to THEIR rooms and I'm going to MY room and everybody can put themselves to sleep because people need to be able to do that.
Hey Robert, you're an idiot. Smoking causes all kinds of diseases. I watched my grandfather die of strokes and heart attacks at 61 because he smoked all his life. My aunt died of throat cancer 5 years ago from smoking. She was just 60. People die from second hand smoke FFS, so how you can putting all those chemicals into your body possibly be good for a baby that's connected to your bloodstream? Gee, work for a tobacco company or something? Ever hear of fetal alcohol syndrome? Don't get me started.
Everyone needs to learn to be self sufficient, yes. But did you also expect your babies to feed themselves? Wiggle over to the toilet so you don't have to clean up their poo? Age appropriate is key.
When I was in college, I had to take a class called "Violent Children". Anyway, we were discussing things that can contribute to children having behavioral issues and smoking came up. When the professor started naming the different effects of smoking while pregnant, My classmate began to cry, because all four of her children had the symptoms. She said she smoked all the time while pregnant. All of her children had ADHD and one had a learning disability....Just saying.
Halle
ReplyDeleteHalle Berry
ReplyDeleteIs today's theme "horrible women having babies" or something?
ReplyDeleteUgh. Halle.
ReplyDeleteOn second thought, call me when she stops smoking and makes a pregnant sex tape.
DeleteHalle :-/
ReplyDeleteJennifer Anniston..(couldn't resist!)
ReplyDeleteThe Queen. Phil was really having a vasectomy, about time considering how the previous tries turned out.
ReplyDeleteI wish that were true. I really do - "one is having one's spliff so please inform the Prime Minister that I shall see him when he's brought some munchies."
Isn't Halle diabetic? So she's pregnant in her late 40s, diabetic & smoking? Amazing she's not hospitalized. What a crazy bitch.
ReplyDeleteWas there a pic of Heidi Klum smoking with her pregnant belly stuck out?
ReplyDeleteKate Winslet seems more likely to me, being European. A German co-worker of mine had a glass of wine at a holiday party while pregnant and didn't understand why everyone was freaking out about it.
ReplyDeleteIt's true European smoke and drink while pregnant. My ex is from Macedonia and all the woman pretty much do it.
DeleteI've seen many women smoking while pregnant in Paris as well as mothers smoking while pushing a stroller. No one blinked an eye. It's very uncommon in this country, you would be lambasted doing that on the streets of NYC.
ReplyDeleteHalle, Kate W., Penny Cruz, or Evan R. Wood.
ReplyDeleteHorrible Halle
ReplyDeletehalle is not a smoker
ReplyDeleteYeah, at a restaurant? Not in the US. But could be an American overseas
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteKate Winslet smoking
if you're a regular smoker,even if it's better not to smoke during a pregnancy,you can smoke until 4 cigarets per day
If you take a poll of those women that were mothers 30, 40 or 50 years ago, you will discover that many, and I mean MANY smoked during pregnancy. I'm a product of that and I'm fine, no issues at all and none of my 3 siblings have ever had issues either.
ReplyDeleteI also smoked when I was pregnant - over 20 years ago and both of my children are fine.
I don't know if the cigarette's of today are made with ingredients that were used back then or not.
If I were to do it all over again, I would quit, but I have no regrets.
Some doctors will tell a pregnant woman who smokes to gradually cut down and perhaps not even quit at all (just a few a day, like FrenchGirl said) so as not to stress the baby whilst the woman might be going through withdrawal. I've never been pregnant, but several friends of mine have told me this.
ReplyDeleteThis all tracks back to the (mostly) ridiculous propaganda put out by the anti-tobacco lobby starting while Bill Clinton was in office. When I was a kid, more people smoked than didn't, more pregnant women smoked than didn't, and there were no more medically impaired babies born back then than now. Only people in this country were ever stupid enough to buy into that kind of nonsense. It's the same with the assertion of the anti-tobacco fanatics that "quitting smoking saves lives." Bull. Quitting smoking, or never being around it, has never saved even a SINGLE life. Every such person is still going to die anyway, perhaps a decade later at best, and possibly from something other than lung cancer, but they'll still die because that's what people do eventually.
ReplyDeleteThe anti-smoking freaks played on the fact that they knew so many Americans have the youth fetish, and were gullible enough to believe that some kind of "magic bullet" exists that, if can only be found, will keep people from dying entirely.
The Clintons went along with it because it played to a big segment of their base of do-gooders who revel in any opportunity to screw around with the private lives of people, and because it gave the government a chance to open up a whole new revenue stream by imposing punitive taxation on smokers. State governments, even those in the hands who profess to be all about "small government," have also jumped at the chance to open up that revenue stream in the form of punitive state taxes on tobacco.
@ Robert +1
DeleteRobert you are a moron. Girls are in porns because they like sex and smoking doesn't kill you. My slippers have more brains than you. Can't even be bothered to list a detailed argument as this thinking is just too stupid, like someone saying the world is flat
Delete@Robert - how much are the tobacco companies paying you to write that crap? Tobacco companies that make cancer sticks are no better than heroin and meth dealers - and they've killed far more people. They are a bunch of legal murderers.
DeleteSo because we are all going to die, we should just smoke and risk the lives of others and ourselves? Why don't you go play in traffic and see how that works for you. Just dumb...
Delete@Jeneral Not all Europeans are alike, you know. Not sure about the rest of Europe, but smoking here (Netherlands) is banned in restaurants.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDelete"perhaps a decade later at best" - And hey, what's an extra measly decade of life? Are you for real???
ReplyDeleteOh big damn deal. This culture freakin' crucifies mothers-to-be for being anything less than absolutely flawless when they're expecting. My mother quit smoking for me and I was born with premature with pneumonia but my older brother (who she smoked with) was perfectly fine. This is not to mention the generations before that drank and smoked to their hearts content while pregnant and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that their grandparents had FASD.
ReplyDeleteEat your sushi, smoke and drink if you want, exercise or don't, stay vegan or keep eating red meat or WHATEVER because it's your damn kid and it's not ours or Enty's job to police what you do.
My grandmother and all of her family would've appreciated an extra 10 years or so with her. She developed lung cancer because her care taker smoked throughout the day. And no she didn't have a caretaker because she was ill, just some pretty bad arthritis, but she insisted on living alone.
ReplyDeleteOne glass of wine isn't going to hurt a pregnant woman or the baby. A bottle..eh, no. The smoker, hmm, no comment. I cut way down to one or two cigarettes a day(years ago) my kid was 8lbs, so yes. It's better for the baby to quit I'd have killed people without a cig. Honestly, I almost killed folks anyway--preg hormones were awful for me. Ugh. This is why she's an only spawn.
ReplyDeleteHalle.
ReplyDeleteI think it's idiotic to smoke while pregnant.
echo robert.
ReplyDeleteyour own personal choices are just that. no need to berate or insult others for doing what they think is okay.
and again, look at back in the day. 50 years ago, all this anti-tobacco stuff was not around. guess they got everyone now.
Robert, as an ex-smoker I can say that I do not not miss wheezing and smelling like an ashtray - but you made your points.
ReplyDeleteI think it's better for the baby if their mother does not smoke while pregnant. However, the stress and negative emotions of the mother can be just as harmful to a baby.
ReplyDeleteAn occasional drink is not going to harm an unborn child.
Every culture has their own taboo. I think it's ironic, that the majority of american parents will isolate their newborns in a room to sleep, all by themselves,
and if someone does not follow this practice, they're considered "fringe", or weird. The majority of the world will keep a newborn close to the mother, even in the same bed, because the child needs the physical contact and emotional reassurance. It's also an interesting fact, that the majority of SIDS deaths (aka crib death), happens when the child is all alone in their room. not co-sleeping in the bed with mom.
Well said Catlady!
Delete@catlady - I'm sorry, but your SIDS statistic is completely incorrect. I work in a pediatric hospital, and yes, SIDS happens with extra blankets, pillows, etc. in a crib, but it's extremely common to see a baby brought in dead or near death from a parent accidentally rolling over on them. And also, SIDS is NOT called "crib death," it stands for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome and it goes for any infant under 1 year whose cause of death is not fully explainable by autopsy. I appreciate different parenting styles, and can't say whether one is better than the other, but it's irresponsible to state your opinion as fact.
DeleteYes for sure Halle here is a pic she sure does like to smoke
ReplyDeletehttp://www.popularsmokers.com/albums/halle-berry/gallery_enlarged-guess-who-photos-11292008-02.jpg
Ugh. Don't even get me started on the co-sleeping thing. I believe that every individual needs their space. My kids get lots of love and affection during the day, but at night their going to THEIR rooms and I'm going to MY room and everybody can put themselves to sleep because people need to be able to do that.
ReplyDeleteHey Robert, you're an idiot. Smoking causes all kinds of diseases. I watched my grandfather die of strokes and heart attacks at 61 because he smoked all his life. My aunt died of throat cancer 5 years ago from smoking. She was just 60. People die from second hand smoke FFS, so how you can putting all those chemicals into your body possibly be good for a baby that's connected to your bloodstream?
ReplyDeleteGee, work for a tobacco company or something? Ever hear of fetal alcohol syndrome? Don't get me started.
Well said
Deletelol Cee Kay
ReplyDeleteEveryone needs to learn to be self sufficient, yes. But did you also expect your babies to feed themselves? Wiggle over to the toilet so you don't have to clean up their poo? Age appropriate is key.
My mom smoked the whole time she was pregnant with me and I have severe lung problems.
ReplyDeleteAnd the pseudo-science flies again at CDAN. *sigh*. I saw the title and should have followed my gut and skipped ahead.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in college, I had to take a class called "Violent Children". Anyway, we were discussing things that can contribute to children having behavioral issues and smoking came up. When the professor started naming the different effects of smoking while pregnant, My classmate began to cry, because all four of her children had the symptoms. She said she smoked all the time while pregnant. All of her children had ADHD and one had a learning disability....Just saying.
ReplyDelete