Michael Douglas said that Catherine Zeta Jones was expected home yesterday after completing 30 days in treatment to deal with her bi-polar disorder. You know, because it takes the same exact amount of time as treatment for substance abuse. Michael did say that Catherine is doing a really good job of getting balanced and that she has her meds all worked out. I would like to know how often people actually admit themselves to a mental facility to work out their meds rather than just do it through doctor appointments and if it really takes 30 days to get it regulated.
While its none of our business, they do keep announcing where she is and why. Idk whats going on with her, but i dont buy the story they are peddaling. Hope she does well.
ReplyDeleteOr it could take 30 days for the swelling of some major cosmetic surgery to go down.
ReplyDeleteMontana - Exactly! Never underestimate the spin.
DeleteSwitching meds could be very complicated and cause horrible withdrawal symptoms. It may have been best to do it in a hospital setting.
ReplyDeleteI think it's cosmetic surgery too. Why didn't she wait until he came back from Cannes? I would think she would want Michael to meet her when she left the facility. I know I would want my hubby waiting for me when I left the hospital.
ReplyDeleteThey never held my ex when he switched meds for his bipolar. The most he would stay was 3 days, and that was when he was crazy cycling.
ReplyDeleteIn spite of what they are saying, it could have been an involuntary commitment.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Enty, it CAN take weeks to get your meds regulated. If I had her money, I would have done the same thing through the years instead of suffering through side effects while also trying to make a living, pay the bills, go to school, etc.
ReplyDeleteStick to what you know, like Kim K's ass, and leave the medical pronouncements to the professionals.
^^^ this. I worked in public aid psych with criminals and it takes time for new meds to work. For someone being super honest about a stigmatizing illness I think we should all give her a break and some support!
Delete@AKM +1 times a bajillion! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteMy mom has bipolar, when her meds stopped working and she went off the deep end, it did take 30 days to get her straight but she has never been hospitalized for a med adjustment. Ahhhh, the lives of the rich.
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ReplyDeletebeing bi-polar is no joke, and getting the right mix of drugs can be tough going..
ReplyDeleteWhen I stopped taking three weeks of Lexapro samples during a particularly tough time a couple of years ago, three days later my husband found me screaming in a closet, throwing up into a laundry basket and basically being a complete mess that couldn't go to work or function. I was like a junkie and it was a dangerous situation. My withdrawal symptoms may have been severe and an anomaly, but had I had the resources and time I would have gladly checked into a nice, quiet place for 30 days for my health. I ended up going back on Lexapro just to make the withdrawal symptoms go away so I could function. When I got pregnant and stopped taking it once again, I threw up every day for 3 months, which of course can be attributed to morning sickness but the mania I felt was all coming down off the meds.
ReplyDeleteAnywhoo!
While I agree that 30 days if you can afford it CAN BE necessary.
ReplyDeleteBut I think this is plastic surgery time.
She's had plenty of plastic surgery in the past and hasn't had to announce being gone for 30 days. I think she really was dealing with her bi-polar. And as Just Troll me proves some people really need the time. She's been honest about her condition let's let her have this one, m'kay?
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ReplyDeleteI'm in Quebec and they do keep you for as long as it takes here while you get adjusted for your meds, if you are a danger to yourself or others. I've been there a few times and met people who would come back year after year. I'm not even bipolar, just have severe social anxiety with ocd and occasional depression because of the extreme anxiety and panic attacks. It took me years to find the right meds but now that I found the right combination, I'm ok. I always find that Catherine Zeta Jones has sad eyes, I personally believe her when she says she is bi-polar.
ReplyDeleteI thought she seemed very "off" when she appeared at the Academy Awards--very amped up or something.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this is really about her illness or something else, but I hope she is better--I suspect it would be hard for her family to live with her if she's not well.
I had a *scarily* similar experience with Zoloft, Just Lurking. Really sorry you went through that. It's like a trip to hell and back.
ReplyDeleteCZJ is an asshole, though, if she's using bipolar as spin. Mental illness (I have OCD) is no fucking joke.
I never did buy this story. Sure, it can take 30 days or more to get levels of psychotropic drugs worked out perfectly, but that almost never means being an inpatient somewhere while that's taken care of. IDK what's really going on here, but definitely more than the story that's been put out for public consumption.
ReplyDeleteI have two SIL's who are bipolar, and neither one of them has ever been hospitalized for "medication adjustment". One of them is an absolute nutbar, but no hospital stay ever. Just sayin'. (I'm in Canada too, madison; not in Quebec, wonder if that makes a difference?)
ReplyDeleteIf you're rich and can afford a 30 day hospital stay, I'm sure they're happy to accommodate. As for coming off of anti-depressants, you have to taper very slowly and even then I hear it's not a picnic.
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ReplyDeleteExactly Robert. She'd have to be actively suicidal/homicidal/violent to require inpatient for med regulation, considering she has access to health care on-call at home or $ to pay a temp home care provider. Unless she needed the break from her family, and chose to get away.
ReplyDeleteWTF?
ReplyDeleteMental health issues are huge, and CZJ admitting to being bi-polar was huge. Think about it - if she's grouchy one day, "oh, it must be her bi-polar!" You don't tell the whole damn world about your mental illness unless you're serious, and you sure as hell don't use psychiatric care as a cover-up for a boob job.
If you've never been on any medication that requires gradual adjustment, you don't know the hell it can be if you come off of it too soon.
BTW, @AKM - applause!
Boxes---Trust me, double digits. You name the pill. Indeedy-doody. If you think I'm not empathetic to the situation, you're very wrong.
ReplyDeleteI said 'REQUIRED' to be locked up. I only know the very reasons people get REQUIRED to be locked up, because of my own experiences--- like, 'Thank god I'm not so suicidal/homicidal/violent I'd have to be locked up'. It's the greatest FEAR of most any psych patient of any kind.
But if you have the money everyone is saying you'd go away and do it. As for no home care, she has kids and you can't but be involved with them if you are there and for them to see. They've got mega bucks and chose to do what most people can't and she went away and did it. You don't have to be a danger or violent when you have money - it allows you the luxury of choice
DeleteAlso as for being the greatest fear for all, scroll down everyone else, myself included would want to go in for this. Maybe your greatest fear, but not everyone's
DeleteHuge hugs to all my friends here suffering from mental illness. I have huge respect for you, and wish you all peace of mind. :)
ReplyDeleteSorry my tone sounded shitty, Boxes. Didn't mean to sound so short with you.
ReplyDelete(If I did emoticons, here's where the smile-face would be).
A friend of mine went off the deep end as well, when they tried to adjust her dosage of certain medications. She was hospitalised. It does happen.
ReplyDeleteHere we go with this story again...I don't know about mental illness so I can't say but it seems quite a few commentors have stated it is possible and sometimes necessary to stay the 30 days so Enty read the comments, you might be better informed.
ReplyDelete@J Sara - totally agree with you. All mental illness is so stigmatizing and speculating on an issue like this is an issue I find personally dangerous. Not that everyone has to agree, but just my opinion.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't say she was required to stay at the hospital. I guess I'm just surprised there isn't more commenters "white knighting" her. It's not like she's seen papped all the time. Why would she schedule plastic surgery recovery to be happening the same time her husband's movie was premiering at Cannes? She could have hid out for months before this. And if it is alcohol related, drinking on her meds is extremely dangerous so if she is seeking help for that good for her.
My friend has been in the hospital for more than a week getting her meds straightened out. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteI saw her recent movie with Bruce Willis ("Lay The Favorite"). I didn't recognize her at first because he face was so smooth and immobile. If she is smiling in this photo it must be an old photo. I doubt her face is ever going to open that wide again.
ReplyDeleteI think Libby is on the right track. My son is bi-polar. At first, when I was at my wit's end, I tried to have him admitted to a private psychiatric hospital. The director wouldn't consider admitting him unless he was suicidal (again) after a change in meds.
ReplyDeleteJust my experience. I was looking to have my son hospitalized, but was told it wasn't necessary unless he was violent or suicidal.
Unfortunately you didn't have millions to pay for it, they do. The fact is you thought he'd be better there, they probably think the same as you. It's a sad fact though that as they have the money they get that help when others don't
DeleteSpeaking from personal experience, bi-polar and addiction go hand in hand. Lay off if it was for this type of treatment. Few stars are actually "out" about mental illness, so bravo if she's getting help.
ReplyDeleteTighter face to promote michael winning like every award for his new HBO movie?
ReplyDeleteI have to take some issue with the cavalier attitude taken by Enty, I have a friend with bipolar who has been hospitalized more than once when she has crashed on the depressive side. Is there a program for this that is exactly 30 days, probably not but then again why not. Adjusting the meds and any other issues with extensive therapy and counselling which is similar to pain management programs why not.
ReplyDeleteif i had the money i would totally take 30 days to adjust my meds while having everyything done for me away from every single anoyance including my family haha too bad i have to do it while at work and dealing with my mom's ramblings.
ReplyDeleteIt can take a heck of a lot longer than 30 days to get bipolar meds straightened out, but yes - people do admit themselves to facilities to do it. I have had more than one client where that has been the case.
ReplyDeleteIf I had the amount of money CZJ does, I'd have checked myself into a mental hospital ages ago. I've been to the ER three times this year already due to mental health/medication issues. What I'd give for 30 days of relative calm and doctors making sure I'm not feeling like I'm going to tear my own skin off because I'm so anxious and depressed. It is that hard, and I'm sure if you throw enough money at a private facility they'll let you stay, regardless of whether you're currently a danger to yourself and others.
ReplyDeleteIf I could afford to hospitalize myself for 30 days to get my meds worked out I would gladly do it. I'm not bipolar, I have clinical depression. The most dangerous time for me is when I'm changing my meds. I've lost jobs, i've nearly killed myself. There is such a stigma around mental health that I can't imagine anyone saying they are bipolar when they aren't. I have nothing but respect for CZJ for being public about having bipolar disorder.
ReplyDeleteIf you need to repeat a course of ECT, it is called "Maintenance." Treatment plans are 6-12 sessions. You really can't do more than 2 sessions a week. It also takes about a week to get back to being functional. I cannot begin to describe the horrors of ECT. I was unable to function 4-5 days a week. But it does work. My husband had to do a lot of heavy lifting to take care of me (and the boys) when I went thru ECT. Not sure Michael Douglas could/would do that for CZJ - might have made it easier if she stayed in a private hospital until her "maintenance" treatments were over. And no way would she make it public that she had ECT.
ReplyDelete[@unknown - I also suffer from depression. I had a nervous breakdown over the holidays that led to me needing either ECT or 3 months of hospitalization. I still don't deal with my depression properly. I truly feel for you. Please hang in there. Ping me if you want someone to vent over email to.]
Hooray for AKM. Thank you for your wise words :)
ReplyDeleteAnd Auntliddy is adorable.
Really you are starting to piss me off. Let's go over it again - yes, it takes 30 days (sometimes longer) to adjust your meds. I am about to go into a three week M-F after hours program to do just that because I can't miss work for 30 days.
ReplyDeleteWhenever you adjust those meds it takes a month to know if it worked and it takes a month of being observed every day to convince to treatment team that it's worked.
STOP with the innuendos. This is business as usual for people who are bipolar. It's a mental illness - probably genetic - and there is nothing she can do about this (most likely).
Maybe she goes in during med changes, or because she doesn't want to be a danger to herself or the kids. I respect her for her honesty. I've also a few relatives that have a mental illness, I've been exposed to their uh, episodes, and I remember very well how scary that can be for a child.
ReplyDeleteMy sister's friend was in the same rehab facility at the same time as Zeta Jones. According to her, ZJ was not in the rehab facility for bipolar....what a joke.
ReplyDeleteArmchair detectives! What has more stigma in Hollywood? Plastic surgery or mental illness??? Actually everywhere. She had her previous plastic surgery done without us knowing. There is no reason why she'd lie.
ReplyDeleteAs for it not taking 30 days, everyone is different but most medicines like this they say as a maximum 30 days to take effect. So there she is will millions of dollars, no she isn't violent or a danger but she pays to go in and get fully better away from the stress of everyday life and so her kids can't see it.
There's nothing sinister or more interesting.