Once someone is an adult they can't be committed to rehab or a mental health facility without consent. If her family could prove she is a danger to herself or others, the court could award them conservator ship and she could get help. But until she does some Britney Spears stuff it won't happen.
But which drugs make you act the way she does? I have seen someone high on every drug known to man except heroin but have never seen someone look and behave like her.
I kind of think it's more likely she went off meds than her being on drugs. Or maybe it's a combination of the two. This behavior is clearly indicative of someone not in their right mind. I've seen and done my fair share, but in no way shape or form have I ever been so fucked up that I'd think this was solid enough to share with the world. I definitely think something bad will happen in the near future.
I also don't get it. I also couldn't make out what happened when the screen went dark. What's going on with her eyes - like she can't keep them open? Is that her new duck face pose?
Agreed - her parents need to step in. I read here yesterday that her parents are upset with Kim Kardashian for what they said about her on Chelsea Lately. Kim Kardashian is the least of their concerns. They need to kidnap their daughter, hire a doctor and get her sobered up so real treatment can get started.
The password is 'pastel blue eyeshadow'. Cripes, isn't she the one always bitching about tabloids and websites using photos of her that she didn't take herself? If so...ummm
And who's to say they aren't trying to find her? I've had family members hide out in different places trying to stay away from those who cared. We don't know her parents and don't know what they are or aren't doing.
I know the general consensus is that she is a drug addict/mentally ill, but a part of thinks (at least hopefully) that this is some big bizarre publicity stunt. She has always done comedies, any many were over the top. I just wonder, is all.
What's with the pursing the lips pose these days? Can that trend end? NOW? Her eyes were totally wonky. One wouldn't stay open or maybe she was checking her fake eyelashes..At any rate posting this to her twitter account is just odd. Girl. Needs. Help!
Personally, I think she has a disassociative disorder. That would explain a lot, including the aforementioned claiming someone else is posting pictures, that she doesn't have red hair (and it is gone the next day), that someone is walking around NY pretending to be her, etc., etc.. Disassociative disorders are thought to have their roots in childhood abuse or trauma; especially sexual abuse. My guess is something bad happened with Kid Cudi that triggered the appearance of a disassociative disorder.
I work with a lot of addicts of all sorts, I see meth and pain pills all over her. The weird mouth thing and teeth grinding screams meth and, the eyes are absolutely pill eyes. Very sad...hope she gets help.
She ain't gonna get it. If her parents gave a shit they'd be in NYC by now. The girl wanders the streets for hours, she'd be easy to grab. They don't care. Probably waiting for her to kick off so they can claim her money.
In 1975, the Supreme Ct ruled that involuntary treatment or hospitalization violates a person's 5th amendment rights. It has to be shown that you are a danger to yourself, and/or others, to have someone committed, and most states limit those holds to a max of 72 hrs. You have the right to counsel during that time, or a public defender. Amanda has said she refuses to have anything to do with them, so regardless of their motives, their hands are tied. Hopefully, she will get help before she hurts herself or others. It's sad seeing any young person piss away their lives, I have 2 kids just a few yrs younger than Amanda, I know it would kill me.
What the heck was that. Her face looks like It's about to melt off. Her parents should use this video to show a judge how clinically insane she's gotten. This poor girl is not going to last much longer.
Her parents issued a statement a while ago saying that they are desperately trying to get her to seek help, but she has cut off all contact with them, and legally, there is absolutely nothing they can do unless they can prove she is in imminent danger of injuring herself. (And as messed up as her actions are, they don't meet the legal definition.)
@Mookshi - I know in the state I live, you can also state that a person can't care for themselves so it isn't just the danger to self/others that can allow a person to be committed.
I cosign on that yodelay. In my meth days, whoa, I saw people working on my broken down car in the middle of the night. That is just one example. I stayed up for 20 days once. It's not just the meth, but it is also the sleep deprivation that gets you. I hope she gets help. Amanda, you can call me, I will help you!
Ok she says she's sucking on a sour patch candy, which sorta explains her weird facial contortions. I'm more shocked by the fact that she doesn't even resemble herself anymore....she looks like she's had some awful plastic surgery and/or fillers.
The lip thing is the infamous "duck face" that you see all over FB. I don't get it at all but whatever, when I was in college, thank goodness there was no such thing as Twitter or FB.
I read this yesterday in the Seattle Times. Kim K was talking about amazing and awesome Amanda looks, and her parents were p*ed about it, saying that's just encouraging the behavior. It's obvious they care, but there's not much they can do.
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While discussing a report that claims that Bynes was kicked out of an adult gymnastics class, to which she wore fishnets and what appeared to be lingerie, Kim Kardashian offered her defense of the actress, and complimented her style and hair (which may or may not be a wig). "Am I the only one who is obsessed with her new makeover?" Kardashian said. "I think she looks amazing with the blonde hair and those nails."
According to RadarOnline, citing a source, Bynes' parents are "very upset" at Kardashian's praise of their daughter's eccentric behavior, believing that it's only compounding the situation. "Her parents just wish the media would leave Amanda alone, because it's only making the situation worse. Amanda is lost and she refuses to get help," the source told the site.
I can't get over how her parents are being blamed for this & seen as non caring. If they were blabbing their fears all over the media they'd get crap for being Michael Lohans. She's an adult people, they have no more control over her legally than you or I. The laws make it almost impossible to get help for your adult children. There should be provisions made in some way, but where do you draw the line?
Bynes has stated repeatedly that she's cut off her family. She's not capable of asking for help & they have no legal recourse until she (physically) hurts herself or someone else.
Trust me. I've been there. The pain of not being able to step in & watching it is beyond anguish.
@Lola - I'm inclined to believe the same theory. She has been in the industry for a long time, and we know a lot of sick shit goes down in it. We saw it happen to Britney with her wigs and British accent - she never fully recovered, she's a shell of what she used to be. I think A.B. is going down the same road.
@Wendy; I think it's Crystal Meth/Crack. Her eyes are rolling back, she looks like she is about to fall asleep and at the same time tries to focus. Thank god I have never seen this in real life, but I remember a True Life episode (MTV, yeah don't laugh),about teens being addicted and one guy acted EXACTLY like her; the weird face, looking like he almost falls asleep etc. He was a meth/crack fiend.
Lot of people talk about the parents not involved, but I think they can't do much. She doesn't think she has a problem, so doesn't accept help.
She also appears to be paranoid/schizo and appears to have some kind of dissociative disorder which causes psychosis (could also be drug induced).
I unfortunately have a mother who struggles with schizophrenia, and let me tell you, when she having a psychotic break you can't even convince her you are who you say you are, let alone let her accept help. Unfortunately some mental disorders cause patients to lose all control of their behavior and their views of the world are very distorted. A person close to them (parents for example) will seem like enemies instead of people who want to help; in her head medication is poison, a mental facility is a prison where they try to control you and lock you up and turn you into some kind of zombie.
From what I understand from her tweets she feels like she is being followed,(by the paps/ people in general) people are impersonating her and that really isn't a good sign.
I hope that she in some way will get out of her psychotic state, accept help, get medication and let people (her parents? Doctors?) get close to her again so they can keep an eye on her and make sure she keeps taking medication.
I remembered something about putting drugs on sour patch kids and looked it up. People put acid on sour patch kids and sell them. Who knows. She might just like candy.
She looks like she is having a smack attack coming up on E. You think you look amazing but in reality look exactly like her. Lassie really does need help.
You can involuntarily commit a relative for a psych eval, if they're posing a danger to you or themselves or causing numerous disturbances. They can keep them 48 hours, at least that's the time for down here.
Then they're free to scare the hell out of you with their conspiracy theories, tin foil hats, and roof sit-ins. Here's a tip, if you're a big person, don't do that last one on a trailer. Or they can go back to videoing and photo-ing themselves, like Amanda, which is relatively mild, so far, if becoming increasingly weird.
She's about an 5 out of 10 on my bat-shit meter for the Undead, who unlike the peace loving dead(I work with the coroner), just keep comin back. It's sad. So is Amanda. I see the signs, I'm just not sure if she's bad enough for them to put her in just yet.
(That was pretty long for telling y'all I know what crazy is..sorry)
I agree with the drug suspectors. What drugs do I imagine? It looks like meth psychosis, or polysubstance abuse of stimulants with dissociatives (PCP, ketamine), combined with some kind of brain disorder or thought disorder. She's going down quick -- and I don't htink that this should be on gossip blogs. Realistically, she hadn't had a job in like ten years and she isn't really a celebrity for anything other than this drug-crazed foolishness now.
If you really wanna know what is going on here....just google mk ultra. What we are seeing is her programming breaking down....usually ends up being diagnosed as múltiple personality disorder when they finally do get help. The walls between the personalities that were programmed into her ...(the Amanda show etc) are breaking down. It usually does at a certain age. The Mickey Mouse club was were Brittany was programmed.....Nickelodeon is the same type of camp at that time. The walls break down and the memories come back. Shes disassociative as a result..she isnt feeling inside of herself......almost like not having a souL.
I think shr posted this by accident while she was high as a kite on whatever she's on. Looks like she was tryin to pose for a twitter pic and couldn't keep her face straight for long enough. Reminds me of my extacy days many moons ago. I have seen this face pulling many times on my friends many times an sometimes in the mirror lol. Fizzy sweets -ye right Amanda- you can't kid a kidder honey. I only really know her from cdan but I genuinely hope she gets sorted and one day can look back and laugh at herself like I can. It's awful watchin a car crash in slow motion. Although with all the craziness at the moment, it's like we have a bus crash to watch
My favorite thing about MK Ultra conspiracy buffs is that they openly post about all the stuff with full knowledge that their locations could be identified within minutes of them posting. Thus, they clearly don't believe that a global conspiracy of totalitarian control is in effect, cuz they would be immediately rounded up and slain if even 1% of their nonsense were true. I guess the takeaway is, I don't buy the MK Ultra mind control stuff, even after reading TranceFormation and tongs of the stuff.
Also, I find that the conspiracy sites tend toward Jew-hating gay-hating black-hating anti-Catholic Islamophobic mumbo-jumbo, so that kind of tunes me out.
ohhhkayyyy... I like the conspiracy theories as much as the next person, but one cant believe everything one is told. Barton makes a good point, if someone really wants to find you, they can. Amanda, like many serious drug users, seems to be incredibly isolated. I like getting my hair done, brushed, blown out, as much as the next girl, ( it's so relaxing and makes me sleepy), but every day, all day? She needs help now. Can she really just keep doing this day in and day out? She's not self harming, she's got the money to do whatever she wants, no one seems to care. You can't force a family to get involved, but you'd think they would on their own. At least call and say, sweetie we're coming for a visit. Let's spend some time together. How's things?
My comment about her from yesterday applies doubly today. I can smell her drug addled brain frying from here. smh
ReplyDeleteThat was disturbing.
ReplyDeleteThat was worse camera work than Blair Witch Project! Bitch owes me a Dramamine
ReplyDeleteViP you are funny! Thanks for the many laughs. Poor Amanda.
DeleteDamn! She video'd that herself? I thought it was messed with. That's terrible!
ReplyDeleteOh dear. Does anyone care about her? Can someone intervene? What about one of these guys that she wants to have murder her vagina?
ReplyDeleteI just can't today. Someone needs to put on big boy pants in her family and have her commited before its too late.
ReplyDeleteOnce someone is an adult they can't be committed to rehab or a mental health facility without consent. If her family could prove she is a danger to herself or others, the court could award them conservator ship and she could get help. But until she does some Britney Spears stuff it won't happen.
DeleteWow, I got a contact high just from watching.
ReplyDeleteWhere are this girls parents? What the heck is wrong with her? Is she really that crazy or is this a stunt? Why isn't someone helping her?
ReplyDeleteChrist, Did David Lynch film this?
ReplyDeleteShe is insane. She is going to die, and that makes me very sad.
ReplyDeleteThat gave me chills.
ReplyDeleteI feel the same way, Ms Cool. Does she not have anyone who cares about her?
ReplyDeleteBut which drugs make you act the way she does? I have seen someone high on every drug known to man except heroin but have never seen someone look and behave like her.
ReplyDeleteActually, I may have seen someone high on heroin but didn't know it.
Delete@Wendy Davis, I'm thinking she's strung out, perhaps on an upper like cocaine, hasn't slept in days, isn't in her right mind.
ReplyDeleteThat was just bizarre. Was she trying to be cute? I'm confused.
ReplyDeleteShe's morphing into Lady Gaga.
ReplyDeleteI kind of think it's more likely she went off meds than her being on drugs. Or maybe it's a combination of the two. This behavior is clearly indicative of someone not in their right mind. I've seen and done my fair share, but in no way shape or form have I ever been so fucked up that I'd think this was solid enough to share with the world. I definitely think something bad will happen in the near future.
ReplyDeleteI also don't get it. I also couldn't make out what happened when the screen went dark. What's going on with her eyes - like she can't keep them open? Is that her new duck face pose?
ReplyDeleteAgreed - her parents need to step in. I read here yesterday that her parents are upset with Kim Kardashian for what they said about her on Chelsea Lately. Kim Kardashian is the least of their concerns. They need to kidnap their daughter, hire a doctor and get her sobered up so real treatment can get started.
The password is 'pastel blue eyeshadow'.
ReplyDeleteCripes, isn't she the one always bitching about tabloids and websites using photos of her that she didn't take herself? If so...ummm
And who's to say they aren't trying to find her? I've had family members hide out in different places trying to stay away from those who cared. We don't know her parents and don't know what they are or aren't doing.
ReplyDeleteSorry but I have no more fucks to give over drug addled ex starlets. Especially ones that still have about 4mil in the bank.
ReplyDelete@parissucks... +1
ReplyDeleteI feel very sorry for her.
I know the general consensus is that she is a drug addict/mentally ill, but a part of thinks (at least hopefully) that this is some big bizarre publicity stunt. She has always done comedies, any many were over the top. I just wonder, is all.
ReplyDeleteShe's either mad or a genius.
Hopefully a genius
DeleteWhat's with the pursing the lips pose these days? Can that trend end? NOW?
ReplyDeleteHer eyes were totally wonky. One wouldn't stay open or maybe she was checking her fake eyelashes..At any rate posting this to her twitter account is just odd.
Girl. Needs. Help!
she seems so, so lonely.
ReplyDeleteI'm speechless, it's just sad to watch
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think she has a disassociative disorder. That would explain a lot, including the aforementioned claiming someone else is posting pictures, that she doesn't have red hair (and it is gone the next day), that someone is walking around NY pretending to be her, etc., etc.. Disassociative disorders are thought to have their roots in childhood abuse or trauma; especially sexual abuse. My guess is something bad happened with Kid Cudi that triggered the appearance of a disassociative disorder.
ReplyDeleteShe tweeted that she was sucking on sour candy
ReplyDeleteI work with a lot of addicts of all sorts, I see meth and pain pills all over her. The weird mouth thing and teeth grinding screams meth and, the eyes are absolutely pill eyes. Very sad...hope she gets help.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of drugs make you like that? I've never seen anything like that before...
ReplyDeleteIn the DM it said she made that video before she left for the nite to go "twerking". More like tweaking. She's high as shit!
ReplyDeleteShe ain't gonna get it. If her parents gave a shit they'd be in NYC by now. The girl wanders the streets for hours, she'd be easy to grab. They don't care. Probably waiting for her to kick off so they can claim her money.
ReplyDeleteIn 1975, the Supreme Ct ruled that involuntary treatment or hospitalization violates a person's 5th amendment rights. It has to be shown that you are a danger to yourself, and/or others, to have someone committed, and most states limit those holds to a max of 72 hrs. You have the right to counsel during that time, or a public defender. Amanda has said she refuses to have anything to do with them, so regardless of their motives, their hands are tied. Hopefully, she will get help before she hurts herself or others. It's sad seeing any young person piss away their lives, I have 2 kids just a few yrs younger than Amanda, I know it would kill me.
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DeleteWhat the heck was that. Her face looks like It's about to melt off. Her parents should use this video to show a judge how clinically insane she's gotten. This poor girl is not going to last much longer.
ReplyDeleteI think what is making her look doubly crazy is that the video appears to be running in reverse. Still though...
ReplyDeleteHer parents issued a statement a while ago saying that they are desperately trying to get her to seek help, but she has cut off all contact with them, and legally, there is absolutely nothing they can do unless they can prove she is in imminent danger of injuring herself. (And as messed up as her actions are, they don't meet the legal definition.)
ReplyDeleteDrugs can also trigger latent mental illness.
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Delete@Mookshi - I know in the state I live, you can also state that a person can't care for themselves so it isn't just the danger to self/others that can allow a person to be committed.
ReplyDeleteMeth induced psychosis.
ReplyDeleteI cosign on that yodelay. In my meth days, whoa, I saw people working on my broken down car in the middle of the night. That is just one example. I stayed up for 20 days once. It's not just the meth, but it is also the sleep deprivation that gets you. I hope she gets help. Amanda, you can call me, I will help you!
Deleteis that the bathroom in her home? With the steel grabby bar? WTF? Where is she?
ReplyDeletethe setting makes it look like the handicapped stall in a rural PA truck stop
Ok she says she's sucking on a sour patch candy, which sorta explains her weird facial contortions. I'm more shocked by the fact that she doesn't even resemble herself anymore....she looks like she's had some awful plastic surgery and/or fillers.
ReplyDeleteThe lip thing is the infamous "duck face" that you see all over FB. I don't get it at all but whatever, when I was in college, thank goodness there was no such thing as Twitter or FB.
ReplyDeleteI read this yesterday in the Seattle Times. Kim K was talking about amazing and awesome Amanda looks, and her parents were p*ed about it, saying that's just encouraging the behavior. It's obvious they care, but there's not much they can do.
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While discussing a report that claims that Bynes was kicked out of an adult gymnastics class, to which she wore fishnets and what appeared to be lingerie, Kim Kardashian offered her defense of the actress, and complimented her style and hair (which may or may not be a wig). "Am I the only one who is obsessed with her new makeover?" Kardashian said. "I think she looks amazing with the blonde hair and those nails."
According to RadarOnline, citing a source, Bynes' parents are "very upset" at Kardashian's praise of their daughter's eccentric behavior, believing that it's only compounding the situation. "Her parents just wish the media would leave Amanda alone, because it's only making the situation worse. Amanda is lost and she refuses to get help," the source told the site.
Kardashian will say anything to stay relevant. I understand where the parents are coming from.
ReplyDelete@Shakira - thanks for the common sense.
ReplyDeleteI can't get over how her parents are being blamed for this & seen as non caring. If they were blabbing their fears all over the media they'd get crap for being Michael Lohans. She's an adult people, they have no more control over her legally than you or I. The laws make it almost impossible to get help for your adult children. There should be provisions made in some way, but where do you draw the line?
Bynes has stated repeatedly that she's cut off her family. She's not capable of asking for help & they have no legal recourse until she (physically) hurts herself or someone else.
Trust me. I've been there. The pain of not being able to step in & watching it is beyond anguish.
@Lola - I'm inclined to believe the same theory. She has been in the industry for a long time, and we know a lot of sick shit goes down in it. We saw it happen to Britney with her wigs and British accent - she never fully recovered, she's a shell of what she used to be. I think A.B. is going down the same road.
ReplyDeleteWhat the eff?
ReplyDeleteGet help, honey, what you are doing is NOT normal.
ReplyDeleteAgain. That poor girl. If she just had one person who could help her. I want to. How?
ReplyDelete@Wendy; I think it's Crystal Meth/Crack. Her eyes are rolling back, she looks like she is about to fall asleep and at the same time tries to focus.
ReplyDeleteThank god I have never seen this in real life, but I remember a True Life episode (MTV, yeah don't laugh),about teens being addicted and one guy acted EXACTLY like her; the weird face, looking like he almost falls asleep etc. He was a meth/crack fiend.
Dear god, she's starting to look like Adrienne Maloof
ReplyDeletesad. just sad.
ReplyDeleteLot of people talk about the parents not involved, but I think they can't do much. She doesn't think she has a problem, so doesn't accept help.
ReplyDeleteShe also appears to be paranoid/schizo and appears to have some kind of dissociative disorder which causes psychosis (could also be drug induced).
I unfortunately have a mother who struggles with schizophrenia, and let me tell you, when she having a psychotic break you can't even convince her you are who you say you are, let alone let her accept help. Unfortunately some mental disorders cause patients to lose all control of their behavior and their views of the world are very distorted. A person close to them (parents for example) will seem like enemies instead of people who want to help; in her head medication is poison, a mental facility is a prison where they try to control you and lock you up and turn you into some kind of zombie.
From what I understand from her tweets she feels like she is being followed,(by the paps/ people in general) people are impersonating her and that really isn't a good sign.
I hope that she in some way will get out of her psychotic state, accept help, get medication and let people (her parents? Doctors?) get close to her again so they can keep an eye on her and make sure she keeps taking medication.
Was she on the toilet? Why would you film yourself grunting one out? She must have been doing something else imo.
ReplyDeleteThis is so sad. She's so messed up on drugs, she can barely keep her eyes open. What's the puckering about? What a waste.
ReplyDeleteI remembered something about putting drugs on sour patch kids and looked it up. People put acid on sour patch kids and sell them. Who knows. She might just like candy.
ReplyDeleteShe looks like she is having a smack attack coming up on E.
ReplyDeleteYou think you look amazing but in reality look exactly like her.
Lassie really does need help.
The Adrianne Maloof comment was spot-on.
ReplyDeleteYou can involuntarily commit a relative for a psych eval, if they're posing a danger to you or themselves or causing numerous disturbances. They can keep them 48 hours, at least that's the time for down here.
ReplyDeleteThen they're free to scare the hell out of you with their conspiracy theories, tin foil hats, and roof sit-ins. Here's a tip, if you're a big person, don't do that last one on a trailer. Or they can go back to videoing and photo-ing themselves, like Amanda, which is relatively mild, so far, if becoming increasingly weird.
She's about an 5 out of 10 on my bat-shit meter for the Undead, who unlike the peace loving dead(I work with the coroner), just keep comin back. It's sad. So is Amanda. I see the signs, I'm just not sure if she's bad enough for them to put her in just yet.
(That was pretty long for telling y'all I know what crazy is..sorry)
I agree with the drug suspectors. What drugs do I imagine? It looks like meth psychosis, or polysubstance abuse of stimulants with dissociatives (PCP, ketamine), combined with some kind of brain disorder or thought disorder. She's going down quick -- and I don't htink that this should be on gossip blogs. Realistically, she hadn't had a job in like ten years and she isn't really a celebrity for anything other than this drug-crazed foolishness now.
ReplyDeleteHer latest tweet.
ReplyDeletehttp://twitpl.us/t/CzT
If you really wanna know what is going on here....just google mk ultra.
ReplyDeleteWhat we are seeing is her programming breaking down....usually ends up being diagnosed as múltiple personality disorder when they finally do get help. The walls between the personalities that were programmed into her ...(the Amanda show etc) are breaking down. It usually does at a certain age. The Mickey Mouse club was were Brittany was programmed.....Nickelodeon is the same type of camp at that time. The walls break down and the memories come back. Shes disassociative as a result..she isnt feeling inside of herself......almost like not having a souL.
Oh chile, please
ReplyDeleteI think shr posted this by accident while she was high as a kite on whatever she's on. Looks like she was tryin to pose for a twitter pic and couldn't keep her face straight for long enough. Reminds me of my extacy days many moons ago. I have seen this face pulling many times on my friends many times an sometimes in the mirror lol. Fizzy sweets -ye right Amanda- you can't kid a kidder honey.
ReplyDeleteI only really know her from cdan but I genuinely hope she gets sorted and one day can look back and laugh at herself like I can. It's awful watchin a car crash in slow motion. Although with all the craziness at the moment, it's like we have a bus crash to watch
My favorite thing about MK Ultra conspiracy buffs is that they openly post about all the stuff with full knowledge that their locations could be identified within minutes of them posting. Thus, they clearly don't believe that a global conspiracy of totalitarian control is in effect, cuz they would be immediately rounded up and slain if even 1% of their nonsense were true. I guess the takeaway is, I don't buy the MK Ultra mind control stuff, even after reading TranceFormation and tongs of the stuff.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I find that the conspiracy sites tend toward Jew-hating gay-hating black-hating anti-Catholic Islamophobic mumbo-jumbo, so that kind of tunes me out.
ohhhkayyyy... I like the conspiracy theories as much as the next person, but one cant believe everything one is told. Barton makes a good point, if someone really wants to find you, they can.
ReplyDeleteAmanda, like many serious drug users, seems to be incredibly isolated. I like getting my hair done, brushed, blown out, as much as the next girl, ( it's so relaxing and makes me sleepy), but every day, all day? She needs help now. Can she really just keep doing this day in and day out? She's not self harming, she's got the money to do whatever she wants, no one seems to care. You can't force a family to get involved, but you'd think they would on their own. At least call and say, sweetie we're coming for a visit. Let's spend some time together. How's things?