This A list celebrity is on lock down for 22 hours a day after she threatened to kill herself last week. She locked herself in a shed by the pool and screaming while holding gardening shears.
In California, you can only be held on a 5150 for 24 hours, extendable to 72 hours after a substantial review process by psychiatrists. To be involuntarily committed longer than that requires a civil commitment court hearing, leaving behind a public record, etc. It's completely impossible for any celebrity to have been locked down "last week" without the news getting out already.
Jesus, you stupid ghosties, put some thought into these fakes BI's!
Those of you saying it can't be Brit because she is photographed out and about are reading the blind wrong, it says 22 hour surveillance meaning 2 hours to herself.
Either way I hope this isn't a real blind for whoever's assumed sake it is.
Actually in California if you are held on a 5150 it is an automatic 72hr hold, a judge can hold you longer after the "team" of psychiatrists recommend a longer hold or you can be released or choose to stay if you can afford it. This I know from personal experience. My time in California was very miserable.
Somebody like Britney Spears has probably signed away all of her rights as a human and a citizen. I suspect her handlers are authorized to lock her dumb ass inside for a while for the sake of her image. Furthermore, even if it is unlawful, she'd have to call the police to have anything done about it, and my guess is that somebody in her position would rather sit in time out for a few weeks than deal with the horrendous media ramifications of this going public.
A white woman feeling ignored is detrimental to her sense of being.This heffa was suicidal,she just wanted attention and decided to "cry out for help".
Your racist comments are so beyond annoying now, justcurious. We get it, you think white people favor their own and keep the black man down. And of course you think we're all white. Imagine if someone wrote about black people what you continue to write about white people in post after post. Racist troll.
as a white woman.. when I was in my 20's I went to jail for a weekend. I was ignored. It was detrimental. I think what she is racistly saying, is black women can emotionally handle being ignored because she is used to it... I dunno. But if my pale skin is at fault for my inability to be ignored in jail, I want reparations.
"Actually in California if you are held on a 5150 it is an automatic 72hr hold, a judge can hold you longer after the "team" of psychiatrists recommend a longer hold or you can be released or choose to stay if you can afford it. This I know from personal experience. My time in California was very miserable."
I'm sorry for your experience, but this information is wrong. Effectively, a 5150 is a 24-hour involuntary hold. It can be extended, yes, but only after an initial diagnostic eval. No jurisdictions automatically do a full 72-hour hold routinely, and after 72 hours your habeus rights definitely kick in. That's the standard pretty much nationwide, I believe.
Once a judge sees you, your case becomes public record, and if you're a celebrity it would become news. No one famous could be held incommunicado in a mental health facility longer than 72-hours without a judicial hearing unless it was with consent, in which case they wouldn't be "locked down."
My mother worked as a county mental health officer (the designated loony lock-up'er), one of my ex's was a PD who handled psych cases, one of my other ex's worked on a major mental health class-action case...and I could go on.
You probably got jobbed into a longer hold by not having outside support or being misinformed about your rights, but that would probably not happen with a celebrity.
Sadie, great guess! Britney has handlers with her 24/7 regardless if she is in the house or out and about. She also had her boys last week ans I doubt she would put her chance of seeing them ever again in jepordy. Maybe Rihanna? Or like Renoblondee said, that crazy Vaguey McVaguerston. She so crazy!
Yes, I'll be ignoring justcurious from now on, most definitely. @BeeBeeOh - if it were just one post, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's post after post. Take a look at today's post on Beyonce or the one about Chris Brown for example. Those are just the two I noticed TODAY, plus this one is three.
Yes, Britney probably could be involuntarily confined because she's already under the control of a conservator...still, right? But I thought she was ruled out.
(Parenthetically, Britney's case just gets weirder and weirder. Touring nationwide, working on primetime TV, gigging Vegas...and yet still under the control of a conservator? No American adult is supposed to be under the extended, full control of a conservator unless they are permanently non compos mentos in some form. Even with consent.)
Oh wait, yes, her father (still her conservator, right?) could have had her committed--especially under those circumstances--and be allowing her out of the (presumably private) psych facility a couple of hours a day in order to keep up appearances.
I withdraw the fake BI accusation. It is possible that this is Britney.
Was it last week that the Britney in Vegas pendulum swung to "no go"? Cause today it's back to "veryveryvery close". So... someone tell me what it all means and if that rules her out or not.
Second guess is CZJ (as MD's wife and an Oscar winner, I'm not sure if Enty would consider her A list or not today). Although I guess she would be an "actress" not "celebrity".
I'm gonna mix things up a bit and throw out Halle Berry as a guess.
@ B. Profane. In Florida (that special, special state!), under "The Baker Act", someone who is deemed a threat to themselves or to others can be held up to 72 hours. It's a pretty routine holding period for evaluation in FL.
B. Profane, in PA where I'm from, voluntary commitment (201) is up to 72 hr stay. Depending on availability of space in the psychiatric unit, most are held for approximately that time unless in the ER they attempt to minimize the seriousness, or have borderline personality traits, either extreme. A 302 (involuntary commitment) can vary but because it's petitioned through the county delegate, it becomes a legal matter and therefore typically a judge will decide if they will continue to be held, or to go to Western Psych or another clinic or to stay in the hospital.
The last time I had (now former) client on 302 was when I was directly threatened that I was going to be cut up then burned by someone who had been abusing crack cocaine. Had another one who didn't threaten me directly but had BPD and followed me home one day. Never gets boring, I guess.
The point being, who is deeming you a threat? Psych holds have been heavily abused in many instances, especially divorce proceedings. I would bet you that the 72-hour holds in FL are routine when the report is made by law enforcement or multiple uninterested witnesses, but the evaluate for early release in marginal cases.
Mind you, my mother used to jokingly threaten to lock up her husband for the full 72 if he pissed her off, and she could make it stick.
The point being, for everyone other than Britney, 72-hours and then they have to walk you past a judge.
If this is a fake BI they're going to elaborate lengths because they hinted at it in a non-BI item separately. Poor girl. I guess she really did lose it again.
Hello? We have to interpret everything Enty writes and NOW is the time when everyone decides to take his words literally?
Lock down could simply mean not allowed to leave the house or "advised to stay inside in her fragile state." Who says the Police and/or courts are involved? How is this not LEANNE with her usual drama? Eddie is trying to make his escape and that pushed her over the edge. Their house is probably filled with a constant loop of screaming, crying, suicide threats, dry heaves, paranoid accusations and raging diarrhea. We might call it batshit but they call it Wednesday.
Cdan reader- it says a list, Leann wishes. I believe this to be Brit and think it has more to do with her 'handlers' including in father keeping her on a short leash now that Jason is out of the picture.
No proof but don't think it is Brit. Doesn't add up with her facial expressions this week. Depressed is depressed and it cannot be hidden with a fake smile even if the depressed thinks they are hiding it well. It usually shows.
"When any person, as a result of mental disorder, is a danger to others, or to himself or herself, or gravely disabled, a peace officer, member of the attending staff, as defined by regulation, of an evaluation facility designated by the county, designated members of a mobile crisis team provided by Section 5651.7, or other professional person designated by the county may, upon probable cause, take, or cause to be taken, the person into custody and place him or her in a facility designated by the county and approved by the State Department of Mental Health as a facility for 72-hour treatment and evaluation."
After 72 hours, and a psych evaluation, a person can be held in CA for 14 days (5250)with a hearing to be held within 4 days.
So, 72 hour with no evaluation; one week on the say so of a mental health professional; 17 days with a hearing.
A writ of habeas corpus can be filed after the institution of the 5250 (after the 5150 has expired) Under CA penal code, habeas is not considered until after the 5150 has expired.
Anna said... It's not really a coincidence that so many posters here can cite the mental health hold laws of various states, is it? Sigh. Pass the lithium.
Team prolixe & JSierra .. and Renoblondee while I am at it.
I can actually speak personally to the use of the 72 hour involuntary hold in Riverside County, CA. A very dear friend went through a really horrible time about five years ago and he ended up attempting suicide. He was immediately committed on a 5150 and was placed under a hold for 72 hours. Thankfully .. he is much better now and in a far more stable, medicated and in therapy.
Ironically .. as much as I now push therapy and getting help .. this was the situation that I saw coming and did nothing to stop. I was dealing with losing the love of my life and was too mired in my own grief to really be able to snap myself out of it enough to act - though I saw it coming from what seemed like miles away. That will forever be my shame.
I will never be so thankful as the moment I heard across the telephone line that officers had gotten to his house and he had been taken - alive and fighting - to the hospital.
I never once interpreted this to mean a 5150 hold, but rather someone who had some really strong handlers and after all we've read about on here, TMZ, etc., I don't think strong handlers are something that are out of the ordinary.
Not britney!
ReplyDeleteBritney?
ReplyDeleteBrit with her 2 hour Starbucks escape? :(
ReplyDeleteI hope this BI is made up.
Didn't the Enties already have this BI recently?
ReplyDeleteBritters? She could be threatening because she wanted a bit more freedom maybe?
ReplyDeleteBrit brit was the only one I could think of too
ReplyDeleteDemi ? Maybe
ReplyDeleteAw man, I was really hoping Britney would keep it together this time. Poor girl.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of who this is, I truly hope that she gets better.
ReplyDeleteThis can't be Britney. There were pictures of her out yesterday. No idea who it is though.
ReplyDelete"Shears" makes me think of Spears but I really hope it's not her!
ReplyDeleteWho else is an A list celebrity with suicidal tendencies?
Joan Crawford!
ReplyDeleteDemi Lovato was my first choice, but Britney makes sense - the 2 hours being when she is out and about and getting photographed.
ReplyDeleteEverytime I hear that someone is in a shed with some garden shears, it makes me think of my favorite Jerry Springer Episode I Cut Off My Manhood
ReplyDeleteFergir
ReplyDeleteNO VIP!! Not going there..Ugh.
ReplyDeleteIt's a celebrity, not neccesarily a singer.Oh please couldn't this be one of those people? But no...It's a KFF...
Demi Moore?
ReplyDeleteI'm going with Brit on this one. This has to be someone that has people watching her 24/7
ReplyDeleteIt's not Britney. There have been pictures of her out all week (and she looks great!).
ReplyDeleteLindsay?
ReplyDeleteNot my Britney!!!!
ReplyDeleteIn California, you can only be held on a 5150 for 24 hours, extendable to 72 hours after a substantial review process by psychiatrists. To be involuntarily committed longer than that requires a civil commitment court hearing, leaving behind a public record, etc. It's completely impossible for any celebrity to have been locked down "last week" without the news getting out already.
ReplyDeleteJesus, you stupid ghosties, put some thought into these fakes BI's!
Those of you saying it can't be Brit because she is photographed out and about are reading the blind wrong, it says 22 hour surveillance meaning 2 hours to herself.
ReplyDeleteEither way I hope this isn't a real blind for whoever's assumed sake it is.
B Profane, keep up the good fight.
ReplyDelete@Aly- LMAO +1
DeleteGoing with Demi Moore.
ReplyDeleteActually in California if you are held on a 5150 it is an automatic 72hr hold, a judge can hold you longer after the "team" of psychiatrists recommend a longer hold or you can be released or choose to stay if you can afford it. This I know from personal experience. My time in California was very miserable.
ReplyDeletedemi moore?
ReplyDelete@B. Profane - you're probably right but I guess Britney could be on "lockdown" by her dad, not necessarily through the courts
ReplyDeleteThis is Not Brit Brit. Dont even go there.
ReplyDeleteVaguey McVaguersteen.
ReplyDelete@ VIP - that made me LOL!
ReplyDeleteJumping on Renoblondee'sVaguey McVaguersteen train.
ReplyDeleteSomebody like Britney Spears has probably signed away all of her rights as a human and a citizen. I suspect her handlers are authorized to lock her dumb ass inside for a while for the sake of her image. Furthermore, even if it is unlawful, she'd have to call the police to have anything done about it, and my guess is that somebody in her position would rather sit in time out for a few weeks than deal with the horrendous media ramifications of this going public.
ReplyDeleteI think Reno got it.
ReplyDeleteA white woman feeling ignored is detrimental to her sense of being.This heffa was suicidal,she just wanted attention and decided to "cry out for help".
ReplyDeleteAngelina - she'll crack sooner or later.
ReplyDeleteYour racist comments are so beyond annoying now, justcurious. We get it, you think white people favor their own and keep the black man down. And of course you think we're all white.
ReplyDeleteImagine if someone wrote about black people what you continue to write about white people in post after post. Racist troll.
As a black person I second that.
DeleteI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Xtina - she has nothing to do now that she's on hiatus from The Voice and we haven't seen her lately either.
ReplyDeleteOoh, maybe trying to get sober and she's already going loca.
DeleteJust Curious is an asshat, just ignore him.
ReplyDeleteThanks, u right. I was gonna comment, but your way is better.
DeleteNow we BOTH know you're LYING.
Deleteas a white woman.. when I was in my 20's I went to jail for a weekend. I was ignored. It was detrimental. I think what she is racistly saying, is black women can emotionally handle being ignored because she is used to it... I dunno.
ReplyDeleteBut if my pale skin is at fault for my inability to be ignored in jail, I want reparations.
"Actually in California if you are held on a 5150 it is an automatic 72hr hold, a judge can hold you longer after the "team" of psychiatrists recommend a longer hold or you can be released or choose to stay if you can afford it. This I know from personal experience. My time in California was very miserable."
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for your experience, but this information is wrong. Effectively, a 5150 is a 24-hour involuntary hold. It can be extended, yes, but only after an initial diagnostic eval. No jurisdictions automatically do a full 72-hour hold routinely, and after 72 hours your habeus rights definitely kick in. That's the standard pretty much nationwide, I believe.
Once a judge sees you, your case becomes public record, and if you're a celebrity it would become news. No one famous could be held incommunicado in a mental health facility longer than 72-hours without a judicial hearing unless it was with consent, in which case they wouldn't be "locked down."
My mother worked as a county mental health officer (the designated loony lock-up'er), one of my ex's was a PD who handled psych cases, one of my other ex's worked on a major mental health class-action case...and I could go on.
You probably got jobbed into a longer hold by not having outside support or being misinformed about your rights, but that would probably not happen with a celebrity.
Sadie, great guess! Britney has handlers with her 24/7 regardless if she is in the house or out and about. She also had her boys last week ans I doubt she would put her chance of seeing them ever again in jepordy.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Rihanna? Or like Renoblondee said, that crazy Vaguey McVaguerston. She so crazy!
Yes, I'll be ignoring justcurious from now on, most definitely.
ReplyDelete@BeeBeeOh - if it were just one post, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's post after post. Take a look at today's post on Beyonce or the one about Chris Brown for example. Those are just the two I noticed TODAY, plus this one is three.
Yes, Britney probably could be involuntarily confined because she's already under the control of a conservator...still, right? But I thought she was ruled out.
ReplyDelete(Parenthetically, Britney's case just gets weirder and weirder. Touring nationwide, working on primetime TV, gigging Vegas...and yet still under the control of a conservator? No American adult is supposed to be under the extended, full control of a conservator unless they are permanently non compos mentos in some form. Even with consent.)
Oh wait, yes, her father (still her conservator, right?) could have had her committed--especially under those circumstances--and be allowing her out of the (presumably private) psych facility a couple of hours a day in order to keep up appearances.
ReplyDeleteI withdraw the fake BI accusation. It is possible that this is Britney.
Sounds like Martha Stewart to me.
ReplyDeleteWas it last week that the Britney in Vegas pendulum swung to "no go"? Cause today it's back to "veryveryvery close". So... someone tell me what it all means and if that rules her out or not.
ReplyDeleteSecond guess is CZJ (as MD's wife and an Oscar winner, I'm not sure if Enty would consider her A list or not today). Although I guess she would be an "actress" not "celebrity".
Jesus. This is really depressing.
Just to be different: Heather Locklear
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ReplyDeleteCJZ is busy promoting Side effects.
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna mix things up a bit and throw out Halle Berry as a guess.
ReplyDelete@ B. Profane. In Florida (that special, special state!), under "The Baker Act", someone who is deemed a threat to themselves or to others can be held up to 72 hours. It's a pretty routine holding period for evaluation in FL.
B. Profane, in PA where I'm from, voluntary commitment (201) is up to 72 hr stay. Depending on availability of space in the psychiatric unit, most are held for approximately that time unless in the ER they attempt to minimize the seriousness, or have borderline personality traits, either extreme. A 302 (involuntary commitment) can vary but because it's petitioned through the county delegate, it becomes a legal matter and therefore typically a judge will decide if they will continue to be held, or to go to Western Psych or another clinic or to stay in the hospital.
ReplyDeleteThe last time I had (now former) client on 302 was when I was directly threatened that I was going to be cut up then burned by someone who had been abusing crack cocaine. Had another one who didn't threaten me directly but had BPD and followed me home one day. Never gets boring, I guess.
The point being, who is deeming you a threat? Psych holds have been heavily abused in many instances, especially divorce proceedings. I would bet you that the 72-hour holds in FL are routine when the report is made by law enforcement or multiple uninterested witnesses, but the evaluate for early release in marginal cases.
ReplyDeleteMind you, my mother used to jokingly threaten to lock up her husband for the full 72 if he pissed her off, and she could make it stick.
The point being, for everyone other than Britney, 72-hours and then they have to walk you past a judge.
If this is a fake BI they're going to elaborate lengths because they hinted at it in a non-BI item separately. Poor girl. I guess she really did lose it again.
Sure sounds like Britney. Poor thing, I hate to think of anybody that sad and depressed.
ReplyDeleteHello? We have to interpret everything Enty writes and NOW is the time when everyone decides to take his words literally?
ReplyDeleteLock down could simply mean not allowed to leave the house or "advised to stay inside in her fragile state." Who says the Police and/or courts are involved? How is this not LEANNE with her usual drama? Eddie is trying to make his escape and that pushed her over the edge. Their house is probably filled with a constant loop of screaming, crying, suicide threats, dry heaves, paranoid accusations and raging diarrhea. We might call it batshit but they call it Wednesday.
Cdan reader- it says a list, Leann wishes.
ReplyDeleteI believe this to be Brit and think it has more to do with her 'handlers' including in father keeping her on a short leash now that Jason is out of the picture.
What does that mean - lock down?
ReplyDeleteOkay, I know it's a stretch but how about...Winona Ryder?
ReplyDeleteGardening shears = Edward Scissorhands reference
No proof but don't think it is Brit. Doesn't add up with her facial expressions this week. Depressed is depressed and it cannot be hidden with a fake smile even if the depressed thinks they are hiding it well. It usually shows.
ReplyDelete"What does that mean - lock down?"
ReplyDeleteIn the context of a threat to commit suicide it definitely means an involuntary psych hold.
Jennifer love Hewitt? Enty hinted that she had a suicide attempt after her mom passed and she seems like she's losing her mind.
ReplyDeleteThis is clearly Suri bc someone made her walk to a birthday party the other day.
ReplyDeleteIt may be a home LOCK DOWN if it were to be Brit & her people let her out for a couple hrs. Doesn't have to have Drs, etc. involved.
ReplyDeleteGuess I echoed CDAN Reader. That's OK.
ReplyDeleteIs Britney considered A++
ReplyDeletePortlandjewel is correct regarding 5150s.
ReplyDeletehttp://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/WIC/1/d5/1/2/1/s5150
"When any person, as a result of mental disorder, is a danger to others, or to himself or herself, or gravely disabled, a peace officer, member of the attending staff, as defined by regulation, of an evaluation facility designated by the county, designated members of a mobile crisis team provided by Section 5651.7, or other professional person designated by the county may, upon probable cause, take, or cause to be taken, the person into custody and place him or her in a facility designated by the county and approved by the State Department of Mental Health as a facility for 72-hour treatment and evaluation."
After 72 hours, and a psych evaluation, a person can be held in CA for 14 days (5250)with a hearing to be held within 4 days.
So, 72 hour with no evaluation; one week on the say so of a mental health professional; 17 days with a hearing.
A writ of habeas corpus can be filed after the institution of the 5250 (after the 5150 has expired) Under CA penal code, habeas is not considered until after the 5150 has expired.
Most states have similar statutes.
@ethorne - LMAO and they made Suri carry the damn present too!
ReplyDeleteLeave Britney alone!
ReplyDeleteIt's not really a coincidence that so many posters here can cite the mental health hold laws of various states, is it? Sigh. Pass the lithium.
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ReplyDeleteAnna said...
ReplyDeleteIt's not really a coincidence that so many posters here can cite the mental health hold laws of various states, is it? Sigh. Pass the lithium.
Yes, dear.
(repost for attribution)
Anna I suppose you have never heard the words "Google", "research", or "college".
ReplyDeleteTeam prolixe & JSierra .. and Renoblondee while I am at it.
ReplyDeleteI can actually speak personally to the use of the 72 hour involuntary hold in Riverside County, CA. A very dear friend went through a really horrible time about five years ago and he ended up attempting suicide. He was immediately committed on a 5150 and was placed under a hold for 72 hours. Thankfully .. he is much better now and in a far more stable, medicated and in therapy.
Ironically .. as much as I now push therapy and getting help .. this was the situation that I saw coming and did nothing to stop. I was dealing with losing the love of my life and was too mired in my own grief to really be able to snap myself out of it enough to act - though I saw it coming from what seemed like miles away. That will forever be my shame.
I will never be so thankful as the moment I heard across the telephone line that officers had gotten to his house and he had been taken - alive and fighting - to the hospital.
Wil, there is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. It sounds like that was HIS wake-up call, and look where he is now.
ReplyDeleteYou sound like a good friend with a good heart. {hugs}
No one mentioned anything about this being an official 5150 hold. It could just be her family/handlers keeping her on lock down.
ReplyDeleteI never once interpreted this to mean a 5150 hold, but rather someone who had some really strong handlers and after all we've read about on here, TMZ, etc., I don't think strong handlers are something that are out of the ordinary.
ReplyDeleteFirst time commenter, laughing out loud at the Suri comment, @ethorne!
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