Tina Turner is renouncing her US citizenship and becoming Swiss. On Friday I Tweeted that as part of the process, a newspaper in Switzerland had published the official notice that Tina had been approved for Swiss citizenship. She has been living in the country since the mid 90's but it still sucks that she has decided she would rather be Swiss. She is an American legend and icon and grew up here and became famous here so it just seems strange that she will no longer actually be American.
Did she say why? Hell, sometimes I wouldn't mind renouncing my citizenship and moving to a Scandinavian country.
ReplyDeleteIs this a tax thing, like Richard Burton?
ReplyDeletewhy is that? privacy?
ReplyDeleteI remember shania twain and her ex husband lived in switzerland allegedly because it was way more private.
I also think the fiscal paradise thingy might help.
Could it have anything to do with legal implications relating to property in relation to her partner? They've never married, but perhaps something in the laws there only enable each other to inherit from an estate if they are both citizens? Just talking out of my ass here... I don't get the sense this is politically-driven.
ReplyDeleteCould she please take the Kardashians with her.
ReplyDeleteIf she's happier there, who are we to judge. She's been through hell and back and deserves happiness.
ReplyDeleteI don't know. It doesn't bother me the way it seems to be bothering Enty. She will always be an American icon. This is where she has lived though for a long time and I am sure she has good (and personal ) reasons for changing her citizenship. I would not put her down for it. This lady is a fantastic performer, I've seen her live and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen..
ReplyDeleteGood for her! Probably sick of paying taxes....
ReplyDeleteDewie is most correct at all. I'm sure this is much ado about legalities.
ReplyDeleteAnd Vicki---Scandinavian countries won't take you unless you already have a job there, and even then it's nearly impossible to get citizenship.
I know, bummer. I like blond men, so I checked it out already.
I'm with Lulu - I didn't know she'd be living there for so long and it seems natural that she would apply for citizenship if that's her home.
ReplyDeleteBesides, these days it's embarrassing to be American! :)
I live like 15 minutes from where she was born, so I really don't blame her. I'm sure she has experienced a lot of hatred and injustice here.
ReplyDeleteYeah! EUROPE is definitely the place if you don't like taxes.
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Whatever she wants is fine with me
ReplyDeleteThe more important question is how will she be described in blinds? U.S. born foreign singer, maybe?
ReplyDeleteShe has lived there for decades. This is not surprising and Entwarded's headline is written by a 10 year old.
ReplyDeleteThe Swiss are ranked as some of the happiest people in the world. High taxes yes, but great health care, pregnancy pay and time, great child care, great jobs, great educations lots of stuff. Plus have you seen Rich Steve's swiss travel specials?? Everywhere they go to in that part of the world (Scandinavian) look so beautiful. Tina is an American Icon true, but I say let her be wherever she's happiest.
ReplyDeleteLast I checked Switzerland wasn't part of Scandinavia. Sorry to be nitpicky
ReplyDelete@Libby- By renouncing her citizenship, she would avoid paying taxes in both countries, no?
ReplyDeleteKPeony--Die Schweiz and Scandinavia were two totally different subjects. Thanks.
ReplyDelete@Virtual Boricua, ha ha.
ReplyDeleteSwiss taxes are actually relatively low, although the cost of living is extremely high. Scandinavian taxes are extremely high, especially in Denmark. My personal favorite is the 180% car tax. Buy a $10,000 car, pay $28,000, plus $10 a gallon for gasoline. That said, you can see what you're getting for your money, which isn't always true in the US.
US citizens abroad pay both local taxes and US taxes, although you can offset one against the other. In other words, I pay roughly 70% of my income towards taxes in Denmark (sales tax and local taxes included), but I can deduct that from my US taxes.
Tina probably got sick of the accounting nightmares that involve having to file two sets of taxes every year.
NO, blogurl....just no.
ReplyDeleteTalk to an accountant. I just worked for a big bank before the doctors disabled me.
Nutty to the rescue....
ReplyDeleteAnna, Switzerland isn't in Scandinavia. It's in central Europe, bordered by France, Germany, Austria, and Italy.
ReplyDeleteAnd, yes, it's stunningly beautiful there! My ex-MIL and her family own property there, and the time spent there was some of my most favorite vacation memories ever.
So if she is no longer a US resident she still has to pay taxes here?
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing wrong with choosing to leave one country and moving to another one that you like better; it doesn't mean you're turning your back on it. People immigrate all the time and you do have freedom of mobility, it's no big deal. I wish I could leave Canada; it's one of the highest taxed countries in the world! I'd leave if I could except I can't afford to move! :(
ReplyDeleteGood for her!!
ReplyDeleteIs she actually renouncing her U.S. citizenship, or will she now have dual citizenship? There's a big difference.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, to me, it makes sense, as she's been living there so long.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to be a citizen of the country where you live. Why should we be upset about this.
ReplyDeleteTurning her back on America? What a ridiculous headline. It's not like she said something crappy about the US. Also, Enty, she will never "be Swiss", she will be a Swiss citizen.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad she's happy. No matter where she is, she'll always be our Tina Turner.
(PS: Around election time or pretty much anytime the nutjobs start up, I think about relocation. It just gets so out of hand.)
It was to get away from the Kartrashians. I envy Tina.
ReplyDeleteIt's probably just a nuisance to keep the paperwork up at this point.
ReplyDeleteShe's really a great example of someone who has retired gracefully and at the top of her career.
I wonder why she couldn't have/didn't want dual citizenship. Ii am sure Tina is happy where she is. Good for her. Didn't Robert Palmer also live there having grown up in England?
ReplyDeleteIf it makes her happy then good for her.
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ReplyDeleteI have a feeling a lot of celebrities will be giving up their citizenship in the next 4 years.
ReplyDeleteSorry, KPeony--regarding Scandinavia. I thought Vicki & I were the only ones who mentioned it. We probably confused things for others!
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DeleteIt's alright! No need to apologize. I get nitpicky and have endless pet peeves lol.
I get mixed up too. I blame the hot blondes that live there.
Oh FSP... She would NEVER associate with the KuntTRASHians.
ReplyDeleteshe lives there since so long time and even if she stayed american citizen ,she will pay as much tax as she was swiss because she lives in Switzerland more 6 months per year.
ReplyDeleteShe became swiss because it's her home since 20 years and she's retired now
@Pogue - Canada's awesome. We pay high taxes to enjoy a certain quality of life, and it's worth it. Compared to European countries are taxes aren't actually so high; it just seems that way because the U.S. pays almost the lowest tax rate in the world. All Canada needs is to get rid of that pinhead Harper...
ReplyDeleteShe is a black American of a certain age who has put up with a lot of CRAP - shame on America, and sadly it still goes on, including that old bigot chestnut "Go Back to Africa". Old European civilizations do not have those undercurrents of hatred against blacks (Asians, perhaps, but that is a separate argument for a separate day). I kind of like the idea of being a citizen of the world...and you don't have to put up with the Tea Party, Sarah Palin or anyone akin to Mitt Romney!
ReplyDelete@kidjones, I totally agree with what you said. And idk why anyone should have a hard time with what she is doing, hope she gets to live the rest of her life in the peace she deserves.
DeleteLike many have mentioned, Tina has lived in Switzerland for decades. She clearly has no intention of moving back to the US. If this makes her happy, good for her. She didn't criticize the US, she's simply moving on. And it really could be for inheritance purposes regarding her long-time partner. Whatever makes her happy.
ReplyDeletecrila, they are dumping their mansions in CA and FL. hehe. I' m waiting for the next round of fake "charity foundations" to open up.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, Cee Kay. They'd have to pry my Canadian citizenship out of my cold, dead hands. I went down to the U.S. for a concert recently with my best friend (who is American and lives in Seattle) and her friend came along with us, and asked me if I wanted to move to the U.S., out of nowhere. I actually spit my beer out I laughed so hard. No thanks. No offense, Americans, but this is the life up here. (with the exception of our current douchebag prime minister, but all leaders are temporary)
ReplyDeleteNo hate for Tina here. She has seen it all and remained classy. Good for her if she has found peace and happiness.
ReplyDeleteCeeKay: I'd still rather live somewhere where you don't have to pay 40-50% of your income paying income tax, where sales tax isn't 15%, where everything isn't taxed to death and where there's not a limited selection of goods but where it's over priced!Give me Europe, Australia,New Zealand, or the Caribbean any day!
ReplyDeleteAustralia has a 40% income tax - at least that's what my friend pays
DeleteSales tax is 13%, not 15%. Welcome to 2013.
DeleteAmy in MI, Australia has a scaled system of tax. Up to $18,200 (this is all per annum) the tax rate is nil. $18,201 - $37,000 it is 19cents in the dollar. $37,001 - $$80,000 it is $3572 plus 32.5 cents in the dollar. $80,001 - $180,000 it is $17,547 plus 37 cents in the dollar. $180,001 & over it is $54,547 plus 45 cents in the dollar. It does seem a lot, but we have a very large country & a small population. I do think we overtax, if we had a flat rate of 25% I think we would have a lot less tax evasion.
DeleteI'm sure it's tax related. Everyone's doing it, not just Tina. Depardu is Russian now. That guy from Facebook is in Singapore now. The list goes on. If my fave poet, T.S. Eliot, can do it, so can Tina. By the way, T.S. Eliot is still considered an American poet even though he died an English citizen and his papers are at Harvard.
ReplyDeleteMy father was Canadian, and I would LOVE to have dual citizenship. Or just straight up Canadian citizenship.
ReplyDeleteA girl can dream.
@RocketQueen-super cute picture! :)
ReplyDeleteGood for Tina, bad headline Enty!
OT Canadian Politics
ReplyDeleteI don't mind Harper as much as I used to. At least he's holding Canada together economically, and isn't an embarrassment internationally. I have a family member who works with him from time to time and says he's very shy.
Agree. Could be much worse!
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I love it here, because when my kids get sick I can just take a card in and get them treated without any paperwork or insurance hassle. I wouldn't trade that for anything.
@Pogue - you are confused. Taxes are much higher in most countries in Europe, and just as high in Australia and New Zealand. (I'm Canadian, hubby is Australian and I lived there for years).
ReplyDeleteI can't help but think of Michele Bachmann. A few months after she dropped out of the presidential race, she took dual citizenship with Switzerland. She didn't get how it's bad form to try to lead one country, while having a loyalty to another. A day or two later, she dropped it.
ReplyDeleteChar: It's not JUST the taxes why I want to leave; the other places also have much better weather and they're not racist and anti-immigration like it is here,either. There are also many other reasons why I want to leave here as well but I won't get into that here.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a issue with this. Give me the chance I'm gone to Sweden or Finland.Don't see a big deal in renouncing citizenship.
ReplyDeleteI think given that Tina is a legend and an icon she can do what she wants. Besides, isn't her man German and thats why the live there?
ReplyDeleteI wish her nothing but happiness. Love that woman.
@Pogue - if you don't want racism, I suggest you stay far away from Australia. I love the country, but I have never seen that level of racism anywhere.
ReplyDeleteI was going to say - Australia has a immigration problem with SE Asians, which is comparable to the Mexican immigration issue in the US. On top of all the Baltic region refugees they allowed during the Bosnian war. It's bad
DeleteBalkan region not Baltic region. If you're going to criticise at least get it right. I have lived in Melbourne au most of my life and travelled extensively and say that yes, there are racism problems here but I have not seen anything here like the overt racism in Italy, France or Russia. Admittedly easy for me to say as a white middle class Anglo European though.
DeleteI could have sworn Tina lived in Cologne back when I lived in Bonn about 10 years ago. I remember driving past her neighborhood, and one of my friends telling me she lived there.
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, Europe's tax rate is WAY higher than it is in the U.S. But you also get your money's worth in better health care and better roads and telecommunications networks. I miss Europe sometimes.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html
ReplyDeleteShame that most Canadians don't know that they don't pay 40% tax.
Canadian living in the US. Paid less income tax living in Vancouver than I do living in Portland. Canadians also get much more for their tax dollars. Affordable higher education and universal health care. I'm counting down the days until I move back.
Here's an income tax calculator per province. 20-24% income tax on an $80,000 yeah income.
http://www.ey.com/CA/en/Services/Tax/Tax-Calculators-2012-Personal-Tax
@Pogue - racist and anti-immigration? You mean other than the between 280,000-325,000 Canada admits every year from all over the world, but with a large percentage coming from asia and south east asia? I landed immigrants for Canada Immigration for three years and I assure you, there are problems with our refugee system, but our immigration policies are NOT racist. I myself immigrated here from Australia as a child, my father from New Zealand, and my fiance from Israel (refugee). The vast majority of people I landed were from China and India, but that is a function of having worked in Vancouver. The east coast provinces see more immigration from Africa, the caribbean and Europe. And if it's really cold where you are, might I suggest Vancouver? It's lovely and mild here today!
ReplyDeletewordygirl - THANK YOU. Not only that, but our salaries tend to be higher and we have a respectable minimum wage. My high-school educated fiance and I (degree) make twice what my university-educated best friend and her husband in Seattle make...and I don't pay $300/month for health care and I won't lose all my savings if I get cancer.
RocketQueen, will you marry me?
Delete@RocketQueen, reading this about Canada is fascinating! I am dying to visit Vancouver, now even more so! And health care here at $300? I wish, for my little 3 person family it is about $850 a month. And OT, RocketBaby is just darling...
DeleteSo many Americans have such misguided feelings that this is of course the best place and surely everyone wants to move here. The be all and end all of happiness is not money. Once you are past poverty and into a middle income level of lifestyle, many other things are highly valued. Quality of life. Access to healthcare. Cleanliness of neighborhoods. Social safety net once you get old or sick. Safety on the streets. All sorts of things that are maintained by the village, not the individual. And on those factors, lots of other countries score far higher than the US. The immigration scramble is largely from countries dealing with severe poverty. You don't see Western Europeans/Canadians/Australians scrambling in large numbers to immigrate to the us anymore.
ReplyDeleteUs Americans would be a healthier society if we were all forced to live in another country for a year. We would come back and be open to real debate over how to improve our country, rather than rely on knee jerk statements like "USA does everything best". We really could learn a lot from how other countries live.
@Seachica, totally agree! We're stuck in a "we do it better" mentality. The rest of the world is coming up with new ideas and solutions but we're still doing things the same.
Delete@seachica, the older I get the more and more I roll my eyes at the dumb ass "America" chants. They tell you were the best country over and over and start telling you that in school as early as possible and people actually believe it to the extent that words like "change" become traitor speak.
DeleteGood for her! She's lived there for decades so its a normal step. And to be honest, the environment in this country lately has been toxic. Nothing can be done politically because everything is blocked and even discussing politics can turn into name calling as we have all experienced here. Seems like we are stuck in the 20th century with our outdated policies and laws, while the rest of the world has moved on.
ReplyDeleteNo taxes in Switzerland.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the other posters--this is primarily due to not wanting to pay taxes in the US when she doesn't live here.
ReplyDeleteI've read it's an incredible hassle to file--even Americans living oversees who would like to keep their citizenship are renouncing just to save the money not only on the taxes but on the filing.
Re: Canada
You all are very lucky in that you don't have a 'war machine' to constantly fund. And I don't mean this because the U.S. is still in Afghanistan, etc., but because the industries and lobbying around defense spending is crazy. Though we can justify a good portion of it since the U.S. is often called on to act as peacekeepers, assist, etc. It's just too bad more of those funds don't go to the soldiers rather than the defense industrial complex.
There are plenty of stories out there about gear, equipment, etc. that the Pentagon brass says we no longer need/will no longer fit the mission, etc. but Congress won't allow the Pentagon to eliminate the projects because of the lobbying. So stupid...
KidJones, Europe is just as, if not much more, bigotted than America. Actually, North America is the most open-minded region in the world. Everywhere else has racial and ethnic majorities that rule the culture. You'd know that if you actually were a citizen of the world as opposed to a damn whiny fool who doesn't appreciate the good thing you do have in your American citizenship. And of course you run from people who have differing views from you about the scope and role of government; you're a anxious little wuss who requires cultural conformity in order to feel secure.
ReplyDeleteDont forget that Tina was an answer to a blind about the family of a famous singer who is keeping the reason for the death of the singer's sister a secret. Hmm maybe she knows that she cant comeback tot he US anyway so why not become the citizen of the country where you have resided for the last 20 years.
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ReplyDeleteRocketQueen: I'm not talking about not letting immigrants in, I'm talking about the racist attitudes Canadians have towards immigrants that live here and the racist attitude they often display towards them and how the majority surveyed want to halt immigration and say things like "Why don't they go back where they came from?" It's this mind-set I always see that I'm talking about and how the police are more likely to pull over blacks than whites, how Natives people are oppressed, etc. I could go on and on.This country acts like it's open and tolerant and inviting to immigrants but once they arrive here it's a totally different story, esp. Arabs, blacks,and Asians.
ReplyDeletePogue...I think you just described a vast majority of the countries around the globe that are relatively (or very) prosperous and are (or have) experiencing an economic slowdown of some sort.
ReplyDeleteCertainly avoid the US and large swaths of Europe if anti-immigrant sentiment is your concern.
@Pogue - it is far from perfect in Canada, but anti-immigration attitudes are FAR worse pretty much everywhere you're thinking about moving. In Australia, people happily walk around wearing shirts that say "F*#k off we're full." I was only a traveler in Europe (and a white one at that) so I didn't see a lot of racism, but I hear that it's awful in many European countries. New Zealand has a huge racial divide and a lot of tension regarding immigration there as well.
ReplyDeleteYou might think its bad in Canada, it is, but unfortunately it's worse almost everywhere else.
I hope I don't jinx this thread, but this is really turning into a great and informative topic. (if it goes south, ya'll can blame me LOL)
ReplyDeleteI am as red, white and blue as they come, but even I have had 'ideas' about living elsewhere. When my oldest was just a wee wee one, hubby and I seriously thought about moving to Austrailla. Then we had bebe # 2 and life got in the way. Now, we are too "old" (over 40, and not lots in the bank) to permantly live there.
Parts of Europe look fantastic, and even Canada. And of course, any tropical island nation. Heck anywhere that is warm and tropical.
I would say my yearnings are prolly 50% wanting more from life and 50% yearning for adventure.
No shade thrown from me towards Tina, she has lived there for years,and to be honest, if I had that kind of money, I would be lying if I said I wouldn't consider a move like this.
@JoElla - look into NZ citizenship. Once you have that you can move to Australia using a special category visa. I'm from NZ and living in Australia, and we didn't have to do anything to move free aside from buy a ticket, and apparently NZ is much easier to get into than Aus.
DeleteRegarding Tina, the US shot itself in the foot by changing the law to make its citizens living abroad not only start paying taxes in the US even though they don't live there, but they've actually made people go back 10 years to pay retro taxes as well. I know quite a few dual US-Canadian citizens living in Canada who have now renounced/are renouncing their US citizenship because that is utter nonsense. I can't think of any other countries that require that.
ReplyDelete@Pogue - again, I'm not sure where you live, but I'm sorry you're hearing that crap. I hear that stuff coming from the small northern town I'm from that is 99% white, but here in Vancouver which is largely Asian, I don't hear that at all.
ReplyDeleteI know there's a lot of that crap from Alberta (sorry to any Albertans!) and generally, small hick towns, but to paint that brush at CANADA is unfair and untrue. Canadians are generally incredibly tolerant, especially when considered against a lot of other nations.
Very well said. I read pogue's comment with shock on my face wondering where in Canada she lives. I am black and originally from Vancouver and can attest to the fact that in all my years I lived there, I never experienced racism. I have lived in a few countries, and travelled extensively and can really say the countries where I saw racism was the states and Russia.
DeleteGood for Tina, while I wouldn't swap my Canadian passport for any other, I would love to be a dual citizen of Switzerland and Canada. I love Switzerland.
IMakeNoSense - Finland is one of the best countries to live in! Schools are the best and college is free, corruption is quite low, health services are good. Finnish language is very different, but most younger people and people in larger towns speak English.
ReplyDeleteIt's not perfect...
-It's cold and dark in winter; apartment listings tell you whether there is sauna in the apartment or in the building.
-Finnish people are generally very quiet, there isn't a lot of small talk; if you ask someone "hi, how are you?" they'll tell you! A lot of non-Finnish people find it quite alien.
-There's the Finns party... lotta racist jerks there: one MP managed to drop the N-word in interviews, TWICE, in a few weeks! The nice things is there are like 8 political parties and beliefs overlap, so there isn't as much lockstep, party-worship like in US.
-Finland isn't in the UN, so there's required conscription by all males (but they can do civil service if they object.)
-Last, alcohol is very expensive, so if you drink, that can be a little painful on the wallet.
Good for her! I wish her only the best.
ReplyDelete@ Vicki - re Scandinavia - It's beautiful, but I cannot live there. I need sunlight. Maybe it's a genetic thing because my ancestors come from the Mediterranean but I just can't deal with just a few hours of weak light in the winter.
ReplyDeleteIt is very difficult to be an American in Switzerland at the moment because of the strain the American Government has put on the Swiss banks to disclose their American clients. As a result, no Swiss banks want anything to do with Americans. You cannot invest money, buy property, etc.. In addition, the US is one of only 2 countries in the world that makes you pay taxes to the US even if you dont live there or make your money there. There are many American's living in Switzerland who are forced to renounce their citizenship just to be able to function here. In addition, taxes are not that high and while the cost of living is high, so are the salaries, so it balances out.
ReplyDelete@char -- I totally agree. That law is crap, and has prevented me from living abroad. When I was in grad school, I lived in London, and have been yearning to go back. But I can't justify it now. Maybe someday I will retire to the Spanish countryside... Sigh.
ReplyDeleteDo you tina
ReplyDeleteMy father is a dual citizen, French and American. It's expensive to do. He pays French taxes, but lives here. I want to retire to Italy when I'm able.
ReplyDeleteU.S. is desperate for dough, hence going after the citizens living abroad. Even Madonna moved back to the U.S.
Depp was happy to get out of France.
ReplyDeleteMango I feel ya, I am more of an island girl. I would love to visit, but keep me in the sunshine please.
ReplyDeleteShe lives there hapilly with her lesbian lover, why hate? She got enough hits and kicks from ike in the US to be free to do what she wants now
ReplyDeleteThink Ike turned her off men for good
ReplyDeleteTina, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo .
ReplyDeleteA few of you have mentioned Tina and her lesbian partner. How have I never heard about it prior to this thread? Not being snarky - I'm just wondering if I've been in a gossip coma
ReplyDeleteShite feraltart, I have always wanted to move down under but I'm not sure if I can afford it now. Maybe I will come down for a visit and get "lost" in the outback.
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ReplyDeleteI feel terrible that you have had such a bad experience in Canada. I wish I could do something about it.
As for foreigners in Switzerland, if I remember, the rate of imposition varies by canton (district) and is often established through a negociation roughly based on the worth of the estate they own in Switzerland and not their income. After going through that, filing again in the US must take her an accountant full time.
ReplyDeleteI regret I have not paid enough taxes in Belgium (my home country), I only worked there for 3y before moving to China. I haven t repaid my community for the free healthcare, excellent free education, free highway ...
@bonnjill. Yes, she did live in Cologne, Germany for many years. My former neighbors lived there. One day my neighbor heard an American swearing while doing laundry in the building's laundrymat. She wanted to meet the other American in the building and it was Tina Turner!
ReplyDelete@Kristin, I would love to meet up with Tina Turner swearing while doing laundry. Mad Max!!
ReplyDeleteI agree with Pogue Mahones comments about racism in Canada. If you're white you probably wouldn't notice it but if you are black you would for sure. If you're black and speak French, your French isn't quite good enough for a Quebecker. If you're brown and work hard that is resented by lazy "entitled" white people. If you're yellow you get comments about how bad a driver you are. It's subtle but it's there. And there's little sympathy for the aboriginal people the Europeans tainted. Look at how the Liberals have talked the talk but never walked the walk with that, yet Conservatives are actually trying to do something by pointing out the obvious. They get adequate funding, the fact that many Chiefs keep it and it doesn't filter down to the rest of the people IS a reality I have seen with my own eyes for many years.
ReplyDeleteI will say that I find it irritating and laughable at the same time when I read negative comments about Stephen Harper - if it wasn't for him Canada would not be such a great country to be living in currently, ASSHATS. We are damn lucky to have a guy like him doing his job at the current time. He's not a media whore, he's more of a behind the scenes guy who just wants to do good things, kind of like how I am at work so I get it. He likes cats too so how bad can he really be? ;)
@xoApril - why not? Gay marriage has been legal here for ages ;)
ReplyDelete@E Gee Be - welcome to come visit any time! Send me a little message if you make it :)
@The Black Cat - that's cool, we can agree to disagree. Personally, I don't care for the way he's throwing our resources away, reducing food inspectors, making the export of oil our number one priority and the list goes on. ASSHAT. (classy to name call, by the way) I miss me some Jean Chretien. I've been around for a few prime ministers now, and Harper is the worst in a long time. Also, if you look above, you'll see a BLACK person mentioning how she hasn't experienced racism here. And classy of you to use the term "yellow" to describe Asians. Well done.