There is a new story out in the Hollywood Reporter which says that Katie Holmes fired Bella Cruise from Katie's clothing line. Umm, does Katie Holmes really have a fashion line? I know there have been articles that say she does and I know I'm just an ignorant guy but has anyone actually ever seen anyone wear or see anything Katie has produced for sale anywhere? Does she have employees? Who pays them? To me, this sounds like something Scientology threw out there to show Katie is evil and fired her own stepdaughter from a company. I'm not sure it is a good idea to have employees who get paid for not working for as non existent company. Bella got paid to be a nanny and to be a minder for Katie and to make sure Suri never wavered from Scientology throughout the day. How many phone calls a day do you think Katie gets from Scientology people?
If that's the worst that Co$ has, I'm looking forward to the rest of the week.
ReplyDeleteoh how dare she! what kind of woman fires her step-daughter from a bullshit job?!?
ReplyDeleteMeh. I read yesterday (probably the New York papers) that she has a few projects lined up, and will in fact show her line at Fashion Week New York. I guess that remains to be seen.
ReplyDeleteOh, and along with firing Bella, while cleaning house in anticipation of her legal filing, she also got rid of all her CO$security, aides. New cell phones too.
ReplyDeleteSmart moves any way you slice it.
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ReplyDeleteThe news (which is always behind) is saying Tom and Katie have called a truce, that Tom is agreeing to Suri being raised Catholic and will have visitation rights, etc.
ReplyDeleteKatie is planning her first-ever show at New York's Fashion Week in the fall for her clothing line, Holmes & Yang.
ReplyDeleteOT - guys could you help me out? I seem to recall Enty having a blind reveal about Kenbeth Branagh but I can't find it. Does anyone remember it/ have the link? It was a while ago I think.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
If I've learned one thing from reality t.v., it's that everyone has a line.
ReplyDeleteOh, weird. TMZ is still saying there will be no settlement without Suri, and that Tom must have "meaningful, significant contact".
ReplyDeleteIf he has "meaningful, significant contact," doesn't have violate the rules of Scientology? Also, if in fact he is gay, does that not also violate the rules?
Or is it kind of like being Catholic where you just give them some money and say you're sorry and you're totally cool for the next week? (Relax - I'm half joking)
I was thinking the same thing about her fashion line yesterday. Like I hear about it, know about it, assume that it's a real thing, but without any physical evidence to support that belief.
ReplyDeleteI know it's called Holmes & Yang, but I have never seen any pieces or heard of anyone wearing it besides Katie.
The only thing I've seen from her clothing line is a suit that Tom wore to one of the Rock of Ages premieres. He made a big point of saying how Katie wasn't able to be there, but his suit was from her line.
ReplyDeleteAside from all the BS, the truth is that Tom Cruise has been Suri's father (DNA irrelevant) probably much more than he was with his other kids and I'm sure he loves her very much.
ReplyDeleteWhile Katie wants sole custody to protect Suri from the CoS, I do expect Tom to have some visitation once the details are ironed out.
If it's true - that's pretty cold. Divorce is always the hardest on the kids.
ReplyDeleteI've seen her clothing line in some stores in LA. The stuff I saw were a couple of blazers thar were nice but kinda meh for the $
ReplyDeleteI wish we could have an ultimate celebrity edition of Maury..with Tom and Katie, bring out MJ's kids and January's son. It would be a great show.
ReplyDeleteAnd heeeeere's Steppy with the CO$ defense.
ReplyDeletelol @ figgy..no Co$ post is complete without it!
ReplyDeleteOMG, Bella looks like my old boss Mrs Williams. My boss was in her 50s when she looked like Bella! Homely child.....I feel bad saying that. Anywho.....not nice being sacked by your own stepmother but Steppy didn’t have much choise. She’s systematically erasing all the SceIno out of her life. Respect from me.
ReplyDeleteShe probably has 2 cell phones. One, is always off because CoS is always calling, and the other is in the name of one of her friends and she only gives it out to a FEW trusted people.
ReplyDeleteIt's like the guys with 2 cell phones...one for the family and best friends (and long term girlfriend) while the other is for the casual friends/friends with benefits.
lol @ figgy - what a stupid comment.
ReplyDeleteAuditing is hard on kids too...
ReplyDeleteMaybe nobody has seen Katie's line because Bella wasn't doing her job so Katie fired her.
ReplyDeleteKatie's line has probably been in the development stages, and is planing on NY Fashion Week to mark it's official debut.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking Bella was axed as part of Katie's desire to make a clean break with Co$.
I predict Tom will agree for Katie to have sole custody if CO$ is granted soul custody.
ReplyDelete@Angel-
ReplyDeleteThat's probably true (clean break), but still, it's pretty hard on the kids.
A quick google tells me that Holmes and Yang is available at Barney's in the U.S. which would explain why I have no knowledge of it.
ReplyDeleteThere is no way Katie could have kept Bella "working" for her regardless. What's the point of getting a new apartment, firing the security guards and replacing phones if the direct line to Cruise is standing right there looking at you?
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, Steppy...they'll audit the trauma right out of the Bella, and she'll forget Katie was ever her stepmom. Just ask Nicole. ;)
ReplyDeleteFun fact: a friend of mine saw Katie and Tom together in Iceland less than a week before she filed for divorce. Kind of supports the idea that she blindsided him with this.
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ReplyDeleteI doubt she's getting any calls from CO$. According to reports, she changed her cell number and email address (with her dad's help) while she was in China and ditched all of her old stuff as soon as she filed.
ReplyDeleteOf course she fired Bella. Bella only got the job because she was Tom's daughter, and her loyalties are to him, not Katie. What person preparing for battle would keep someone in her camp whose loyalties are to her enemy?!
ReplyDeleteIf this is what the CO$ has to fight with, then Katie is going to come out looking saintly. What a joke of a charge.
I think Katie should teach Suri to say bad things about Scientology so she'll be labeled an SP and Tom will cut her out of his life forever. It's either that, or she can look forward to being locked in a cockroach infested room at sea org for years on end, doing menial labor for little pay while being indoctrinated and fed nothing but barely water, and maybe getting molested by the OTVIII's.
ReplyDeleteSteppy, I can only imagine how difficult divorce would be on a child. It must only be slightly easier than having a parent or loved one declared a SP and having no further contact with them.
ReplyDeleteLol, cornbread. To be fair, Nicole is apparently a sociopath. ;)
ReplyDeleteyes, the holmes and yang line is alive and kicking
ReplyDeleteproof:
http://www.redcarpet-fashionawards.com/2012/03/21/jennifer-lawrence-in-holmes-yang-good-morning-america/
@loubea: Good one!
ReplyDeleteThe article says that the source who said that Katie fired the stepdaughter is a Scientology source...I'd say it's one of their ways to trash her in the media and make her look like a bitch.
ReplyDeleteanybody can see what a fantastic sense of style that bella has. Oh sorry, that was my e-meter talking.
ReplyDeletefunny, according to Bella she is an "artist" (artist of what who knows) living in downtown LA with her thetan boyfriend. And never once mentioned working for a fashion line in her interview.
Gotta hand it to the CO$ team, if you throw enough shit against the wall something has to stick.
Oh, and Celebtichy has reported that Scientologists are trolling their site trying to get negative Tammy comments removed. They are fight back, good for them.
The clothing line is actually well received and not some pretend project like Lilo's line. She and Isabella have been on the outs for about 2 years, and she interned for Katie's partner on the line, not actually for Holmes & Yang. Just another story that goes to show if you spin a story you can sell anything you want to people.
ReplyDeleteCame to say what @timebob already said - Celebitchy is dealing with the CO$. I applaud how they are writing about it.
ReplyDeleteNot sure about her firing Isabella, but now there's a story that Katie wrote a screen play called "Molly" and she's going to be staring in it. Almost every gossip site has run with that story. It's supposedly the story of a single mom and her daughter, and it starts shooting in August. I think Scientology put that out to make people think Katie left Tom to get attention for this movie. I checked Katie Holmes IMDB and there is no such movie listed. And they start shooting in less than a month?
ReplyDeleteThat's because you don't have IMDB pro AND not every single project is actually listed on IMDB. If you want accuracy and the most recent credits of upcoming projects you have to use professional pay sites like Studio Sustem.
DeleteAlso, publicists rarely drum up press for a project 6-8 weeks prior to filming. They generally save that for 6-8 weeks prior to release. It's a bit more effective that way.
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ReplyDeleteRegarding the movie "Molly," according to Roger Friedman, no movie is planned.
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I wouldn't want Bella around either...does the word SPY sound about right. I would have my home swept for bugs (listening devices) yes we're dealing with the craziest of the crazies...Scientology,,
ReplyDeleteHahaha, @timebob! Best comment: "anybody can see what a fantastic sense of style that bella has. Oh sorry, that was my e-meter talking."
ReplyDeleteLol, really, one can see Bella is not super stylish. Mb katie was trying to be nice?
DeleteHere's something interesting. TMZ just posted the following on their site - a joint statement from the two of them.
ReplyDeleteThe statement reads, "We are committed to working together as parents to accomplish what is in our daughter Suri's best interests."
"We want to keep matters affecting our family private and express our respect for each other's commitment to each of our respective beliefs and support each other's roles as parents."
Yes, isn't Isabella firmly in CO$? I'd distance myself away from her too.
ReplyDeleteI'd fire her ass!
ReplyDelete". . . to each of our respective beliefs. . ."
ReplyDeleteWow, that speaks volumes.
That had to have killed Tom to agree to that.
Guess what? Now both TMZ and the NY Post are saying that an agreement has been reached and signed. That was fast.
ReplyDeleteMaybe if CoS tries to force Tom Cruise to give up Suri he'll finally awake from his robot state and leave. I do believe they both just wanted the best for the child and handled it pretty nicely. Even if it was all planned out 5 years ago.
ReplyDeleteIf they've settled already, Tom caved.
ReplyDeletePoor Bella. This goes in my column of 'Adoption nightmares, even to to wealthy divorced celebrity COS parents'.
ReplyDeleteTom will do anything to salvage his career and CO$ he may of lost the battle but control freaks don't just stop losing control. He is in it for the war, once people move on to the next big story they will be pressuring Suri into a slow Scientology mind bath. Suri is only six and they have years, the money and the craziness to slowly indoctrinate her without Katie's consent or knowledge. Tommy doesn't like to lose and Miscavage will do anything to keep him in the fold.
ReplyDeleteEven Nicole got to see her kids at first then slowly she lost access to them.
MSNBC has also reported a settlement, to it must be true.
ReplyDeleteTom's legal team almost literally could not have drafted a settlement agreement this fast, so the terms must have been dictated by Katie's lawyers. Wow. Settling is one thing. Settling this fast makes it look like Tom was really afraid of what would have come out in court.
I have no idea what an "SP" is, so I really have no idea if a parent labeled an SP would be more damaging to child than a divorce.
ReplyDeleteFrom the context above, it's sounds a little like excommunication (although that is not permanent and Catholics are still expected to attend mass).
So, if that would be a reasonable comparison, I think that a divorce would be more harmful to children.
I wonder what Katie wanted- and got... Heading over to support celebitchy
ReplyDeleteThey probably settled on the terms that they had already negotiated during the separation. Katie only filed hardball because Tom was dragging his feet on actually going through with the divorce.
ReplyDeleteGoes to show you that this wasn't about money and all about Suri as far as Katie was concerned.
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ReplyDeleteI don't think money was ever a concern for Tom or Katie, both seemed most concerned about their child. And not prolonging the media frenzy. I'm glad they could work it out, maybe now they can move on.
Many people were under the illusion it was all about money for Katie, which was absurd.
DeleteBella needs a makeover.
ReplyDelete@Steppy a SP is "suppressed person" that person is considered harmful and negative. If the "church" labels you an SP than you are disconnected from any scientology member. This is how families are broken up in COS. It is incredibly harmful. Nicole Kidman was labeled an SP and Bella & Connor stopped speaking to her. Bella claims she does now, but I haven't heard Nicole confirm this. The COS has no problem with lying to the media. Then turn around and say everyone agains the church lies about them.
ReplyDeleteIf Katie is (or when) labeled an SP Tom will no longer speak to her, if Suri becomes a Scientologist then Suri will not longer have any contact with her.
Oh and Parents disconnect from children who leave the church also. You can become an SP for the slightest of reasons. It is emotional witch burning. So I would take a divorce and save my child than risk staying being an SP and losing contact forever.
Tom is prohibited from taking Suri around anything COS related and Katie's own security team and. Nanny must be with Suri at all times when she's with Tom for visits. She will never be apart of COS unless she chooses to be as an adult.
Delete@whocaresnow12, thank you for the updates. I didn't doubt that Suri was Katie's priority in all of this. The way she filed and where spoke volumes in that regard. I do think she probably receive a generous settlement from Tom too since he knows it will all be Suri's eventually anyways.
ReplyDeleteRe: quick settlement
ReplyDeletethere is a blind on another site that is most likely about Tom and Katie that says he is settling because he doesn't want info about his relationship with three very famous men to go public.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing her fashion line everywhere by fall. She did Project Runway, the line is being shown at fashion week in NY, and she's doing fashion covers/interviews. Soon "team katie" celebs will wear the stuff and talk about it.
ReplyDelete@Denise, I couldn't help think that Katie may have some crazy receipts in light of being able to pull this off in such short order. Tom learned you don't mess with a caring mother's maternal instincts, Scientology be damned.
ReplyDelete@timebob - thanks for the info.
ReplyDeleteWhile that SP stuff may seem strange to me, who am I to judge another's religious beliefs? (As a good Catholic, I will pray for their souls:) )
But, I do not have to agree with others religious beliefs to appreciate the work they do. Tom Cruise is a great actor and I enjoy his work. I had a dentist that I loved (my family's dentist for 40+ yrs). It was only after he died that I even found out he was Jewish. I guess I don't pay much attention to that stuff. He was an excellent dentist and a great man. Who cares that he didn't eat bacon!!
"Tom is prohibited from taking Suri around anything COS related and Katie's own security team and. Nanny must be with Suri at all times when she's with Tom for visits. She will never be apart of COS unless she chooses to be as an adult."
ReplyDeleteAnd you know the exact terms how?
I doubt that Tom has agreed to supervised visits indefinitely.
How would Katie have obtained useful proof that Tom was on the down low with three celebrity guys?
@B. Profane, 5 1/2 years gave her ample opportunity to do a lot of things, especially if she's been planning for awhile. Just sayin'..
ReplyDeleteRe: the supervised visits, good question. I can't find anything about that available yet.
B.profane...how would I know?
ReplyDeleteBut I agree with Angel.
Hmmmm, Steppy says s/he's catholic, so It must be true. :-/
ReplyDeleteB.Profane - Maybe Tom got lax and comfortable around Katie and gave her the opportunity to gather some intel on him. She must have been planning this for a long time.
@Mango, I read that Katie's father, who is also an attorney, has been guiding her to prepare for this for awhile now. There are very small cameras and nanny cams available that can be discreetly hidden just about anywhere. I think it's entirely possible that Katie collected a treasure trove of evidence with Tom none the wiser.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you question/comment on my religion? Does that make it harder for you to ridicule and dismiss my views? That's kind of a pansy ass attitude.
ReplyDeleteWhy in the heck would someone claim to be a different religion? I could see if it was 1942 and I was Jewish, but why in the world would I, in 2012 in the United States of America, have any reason to lie???
Grow up.
@B. Profane- it was reported this morning regarding the terms of visitation. Just because it's not on CDAN doesn't mean it's not being reported. Pick a site: TMZ, Jezebel, Radar, I think it was also on MSNBC, but I can't recall.
ReplyDeleteOK, I didn't see anything about terms in the reports I'd seen. If the articles you site are accurate, it's very surprising that Tom's camp would have let them go public. His counsel should have been able to get an enforceable gag order on the terms of the settlement agreement.
ReplyDeleteThere was nothing about the terms of the divorce setlement, just the custody agreement.
DeleteSteppy, it's ok to judge. Scientology is a cult not a religion, so feel free.
ReplyDeleteScientology is not a religion in most countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_status_by_country
You would think the IRS, of all people, would know just what type of organization they are given how they were infiltrated by undercover scientologists. The cult used wiretapping and stole documents from the government that made them look bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
Timebob gave a great explanation of what the cult calls a 'SP'. I would be false and disrespectful to compare it to your religion's excommunication process.
I am the product of divorce but still got to see my father when he so chose to do so, which was never. My mother never said one bad word about him.
ReplyDeleteCO$ doesn't do that. The divorce still exists but the other parent doesn't at all and they disappear in a very nefarious way,children being told that they are evil and not who they thought they were and "they never really loved you". Yeah,I'd say that is much, much harder.
I think we need to stop feeding the Scientology trolls.
ReplyDelete"There was nothing about the terms of the divorce setlement, just the custody agreement."
ReplyDeleteYeah, but that's the stuff that Tom would most want kept confidential. He might have agreed to a prohibition on exposing Suri to COS, but I'm sure he didn't want that to become public knowledge.
I think I'll wait for more corroboration of the terms.
"mynerva said...
ReplyDeleteI think we need to stop feeding the Scientology trolls."
What the heck does that mean???
@Steppy - there's an article over on another site about how scientologists have been instructed to look for articles on the divorce and try to have them moderated by Microsoft. I assume the more an article is commented on the higher it trends, but I may be wrong.
ReplyDeleteMy point was merely that by commenting on this so much are we risking Enty getting in bother? I'm really ignorant about how this moderating stuff works so I may have this wrong.
The more I'm reading about these people the more and more they bother me. It seems like they will go to any lengths to achieve their goals. Frightening.
@B. Profane, you might have already seen this, but here's the latest details from TMZ:
ReplyDeleteTMZ has learned, the divorce settlement between Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes is extremely complicated, outlining things both Tom and Katie can and cannot do with Suri.
Here's what we know.
-- Katie will have what amounts to primary physical custody, but Tom has significant custodial time with his daughter.
-- A report claiming that Suri must be in the presence of Katie's bodyguard and nanny when she is around Tom is "absolutely, 100% false."
-- The custodial provisions of the agreement are extremely detailed, and religion is one of the topics. We're told there are restrictions on what Tom and Katie can discuss with Suri on the subject of religion, including Scientology, however, those restrictions are eased the older Suri gets.
In short, we're told the agreement is extremely detailed and outlines a course of conduct for years to come.
@mynerva
ReplyDeletePerhaps I've made the assumption that your comment was made in the same vein as many regular posters on this site. If that is the case, I apologize.
Many posters on this site make asinine assumptions about anyone that disagrees with them, then make awful, offensive, comments, based on their initial baseless assumptions. I find it ridiculous.
Again, I apologize if I jumped to conclusions.
mynerva, Enty has been reporting the horrible truth about scientology for a long time so I assume he knows what he is in for. If he was going to be in trouble or stalked on the internet, it most likely started a long time ago.
ReplyDeletesteppy, are you sure you are thinking of the right blog? We have very few commentators like that. This has one of the most respectful and intelligent people of all gossip sites and blogs in general.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me it's all running exactly to plan
ReplyDelete@angel--Thank you very much. I'll trot over to the site and read up. Interesting. Anything that complicated must have been negotiated well before Katie filed, supporting my speculation that Katie filed to force Tom's hand.
ReplyDeleteIm already sick of hearing about this shit!
ReplyDelete@rose
ReplyDeleteI love your happy, sunshine thoughts about the people that regularly post on this site. Honestly, I wish I agreed with you!
Unfortunately, from what I have seen, many of the regular posters are arrogant, presumptuous, mean-spirited and incredibly quick to judge and assume the worst about everyone. On the plus side, they seem to form a happy little "Mean Girls" clique :)
No, Steppy, we just know that you're a COS shill. Anyway, Tom & Katie are divorcing quietly, so you can report back to your puppet masters that you've done your job, then fuck off and get lost.
ReplyDeleteSorry if someone's already made this point (I skipped the argument above) but wouldn't Katie's firing Bella be understood & accepted by all CO$ as you are supposed to cut all ties & never look back, right?
ReplyDelete@Rose - is b profane one of the kind people you refer to? What about vick and the others?
ReplyDeleteSteppy, you've done your fair share of name calling and abuse of other posters. That's why you keep getting called a CO$ troll - your delusional & a hypocrite.
ReplyDeleteThe Noscis are not trolls, they're propagandists.
ReplyDeleteThe difference being that they are trying to influence through doubt, not cause a flame war (troll).
They are trying to keep people believing that they are a religion, and not a coercive totalitarian business hiding under an IRS ruling.
My aunt was excommunicated from the Catholic church (for marrying a divorced man), but she could attend mass and hang out with all her C friends and relatives. And, once he died, all was forgiven, so she could have communion again (weird, huh)
When one is excommunicated from the CONnoSci, no one, not children, parents, relatives, or friends are ever allowed to communicate with one again. If they do communicate, they are abused by some means or other-- financial, emotional, or physical.
It is evil to children. Check the links out of Ortega's Village Voice articles. There's a new one in todays edition which has an interview with an ex-Nosci who talks about her experiences in the cult.
I think firing Bella purely on her clothing choices alone would be valid.
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ReplyDeleteNo, I have not called anyone names, nor have I abused anyone. You must have me confused with someone else.
I always say to myself don't respond to Steppy's comments, but here I am again. You called me & a few others "man hating lesbians ". All I & the others did was make a comment about Tommy on a gossip site. Now I will no longer respond to you. You are an idiot. Fuck off!
ReplyDeleteSorry, it seems we disagree. Have a good night.
ReplyDeletehope she did not design those low leather shoes! yeah, you know the ones.....
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ReplyDeleteyeah, i can see not wanting the child of your ex around. katie was only with tom a few years. i doubt they're close.
ReplyDeletesteppy why are you here? you don't comment on the posts unless you are hating on other posters. if you're trying to sell something; i don't think anyone is buying. people on here are freaked out and put-off by COS. you being ugly doesn't further your cause. perhaps you would find a tom cruise fan site, or a katie holmes hate site more rewarding.
@me-
ReplyDeleteYou must be another one of the nice people that Rose was referring to :)
Have a good night.
this site clearly has different writers.
ReplyDeleteI was looking at stories from previous years and recall a story about Katie and her clothing line.. I will find it.
Am in awe of Katie's father, he's rated AV by Martindale-Hubble, and the legal team he's put together.
ReplyDeleteIf this has indeed been settled, he and the team built a brick **ithouse of a case, both defensively and offensively. And i have a lot more respect for Katie/notKATE for hanging in there during what must have been a soul-killing time because of her love for Suri.
This divorce did not turn out as awesome as I'd hoped.
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm bummed, was hoping for scads of scurrilous salacious details to emerge, haha.
ReplyDeletesteppy, so three people out of the hundreds of posters here make you believe MANY are downright awful? I don't know why you come back since everyone is so abusive. I find the posters you mentioned to have intelligent opinions on many issues. You probably don't know that because I only see you on the COS/Tom Cruise posts.
ReplyDeleteTruths can often hurt, but that doesn't make them mean or wrong.
@Popnursing
ReplyDeletethats the same thing i was wondering. if she had fired bella, it would have CO$ looking into why.making her surprise filing pretty much an impossibility, leading me think to this is a CO$ smear
@rose
ReplyDeleteYou are one of the kind ones and I appreciate it. And you are probably right, the mean ones are probably in the minority. But I am far from the only one treated poorly. It seems that anyone that posts, saying that maybe the celebrity being crucified is not Satan on earth, they are criticized and told to f-off. It's not true that I only post on Cruise/scientology items. I admit I have a soft spot for Cruise (I've watched him forever), but I do read more articles/comments than I post on. I commented about John Edwards and Wahlberg earlier. I have no idea what religion Edwards is and Wahlberg is Roman Catholic. I tend to only post when I feel people are being unnecessarily bashed (like Edwards today).
Rose - why do I come here? Honestly, it's a ridiculously entertaining time waster...I get bored at work a lot!
ReplyDeleteWhere's Shelly?
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