#1 - I guess this movie actor is still A list. He has spent almost $1M of his money over the past few years to acquire movies of Jewish prisoners in concentration camps. Apparently he likes the ones involving sex and nudity the best.
#2 - This almost A list movie actor who got his break on one of the biggest shows in television history has been a vocal proponent of PETA. I wonder if they know about his monthly pig events where he personally kills and cooks a pig for guests.
1. Mel? 2. Uh, as long as he doesn't torture the pig, why is this gasp worthy? I'm sure the companies that kill pigs for supermarket meat are much more inhumane. It's like how my brother has chickens on his farm and they kill and eat them. I personally can't kill a spider in my home even, but I don't get the OMGGGGGGG as long as this actor is humane about it.
If # 2 is killing the pig humanely and in a sanitary manner, what's the issue here, even as a PETA supporter? I'm an animal lover myself, but I'm not a vegetarian and can only hope for the ethical slaughter of animals used for food. It's not as if he is secretly hunting big game and leaving the animals to suffer and the carcasses to rot or running a dog fighting ring.
#1 is probably meant to be Mel Gibson, but it sounds really far fetched.
Woody Harrelson for 2, but I don't see a problem with that. Knowing how to prepare meat is a valuable skill and and the pig is probably killed in humane fashion, better than in a slaughterhouse. No. 1 is sick.
@Tara, I think Peta is anti eating meat too, right? I would imagine they would definitely be against killing a little piggy at a party...they are against wearing wool, I cant imagine pig killing would be ok.
I think you are confusing "Why would rational humans be upset about him humanely killing a pig?" with "Why would PETA be upset about him humanely killing a pig?" Although there are many rational people who may say they support PETA, the organization itself isn't known for its clear-headed, logical responses to things.
Again, I think we're back in the land of far-fetched and slanted-to-pander BI's. Enty didn't write these, but he has control over what gets posted on the blog. Why this nonsense?
I didn't realize there were such films in existence of the prisoners in the camps -- is that true? I also thought any results of experiments conducted were basically banned or destroyed. Though I'm not sure why I thought either. But, I mean, with the mass media era and information age that came later, doesn't it seem like the general public (1) would have by now seen bits of any such things and (2) know pretty widely that generally they existed???
But euthanizing dogs that are perfectly adoptable is fine b/c to have an owner that loves and cares for you is considered abuse by these PETA nut jobs.
I believe tapes exist, almost like snuff films.. I mean, the documentaries on WWII and the concentration camp videos tear me up everytime. Considering they were nude most of the time, its' not shocking that these tapes still exist.
@Vicki And yet they're classified as an animal shelter in VA where they kill up to 95% of the animals they take in. It's absurd that they're allowed to operate.
1. Mel has managed to shock me so often in so many unexpected ways, he seems a distinct possibility. Who but someone who hated the unfortunate people being watched on film could objectify their plight to the extent of getting off on it.
2. Not sure, now that anita_mark said that Woody's a vegan. He was my guess.
Woody wouldn't necessarily have to eat the pig, just kill it in a humane way. I can see him doing that. I doubt most PETA people follow everything to the exact letter when it comes to their beliefs.
DianaofThemyscira, that's disgusting! They're like the WalMart of animal care. I only donate to no-kill shelters now. I love the Mann Cat Shelter in the UK. They have an insanely addictive webcam. And I just saw a link for a no-kill shelter in Seal Beach, CA, on Facebook. Gonna have to start keeping a list!
No Nazi would want to have sex with a Jewish person being that they had such contempt for them. I refuse to believe there is any sex tapes of that that exist. Whoever is making this crap up is disgusting.
I'm sure if you google nazi/concentration camp fetish films, you will find something.
As for PETA and their ilk, I know enough people who have been harmed by their petty, "do good" ways, without going into the hypocrisy of their supporters.
@Amy - while the idea of these films are digusting, they shouldn't be disposed of - it's too easy to deny the Holocaust ever happened if there isn't any visual evidence of it. I remember reading about Eisenhower dragging the local citizens through the concentration camps so they couldn't deny that they existed. As long as the photographs and films exist, they can't deny it happened, although I've heard there are a few hard core idiots/bigots who say the films are faked. Never forget!
@susanb Exactly! If anything they should be archived, not necessarily published, at the Museum of Tolerance and other Jewish organizations that exist so people never forget.
If #1 is true, the sickness and depravity in Hollyweird is indeed boundless. I don't think it's Mel, but I think we're supposed to think it's him. As for #2, if the animal is humanely killed for food,it's hard to prefer that over a slaughterhouse that is not run by the standards of Temple Grandin.
Anita, it's at manncat.org. I think they have two webcams now. It's mostly cats. There are some dogs and a parrot and I think a chicken or two. If I ever go to Europe, I'm going to the Isle of Mann just so I can visit the sanctuary!
@SaintsFan, apparently it wasn't the Nazi's having sex (although they may have filmed others having it):
"Nazi commander Heinrich Himmler had ordered the creation of camp brothels in 1941. His logic was chilling — male prisoners would work harder if offered the incentive of sex, and if only a few had this privilege it would crush solidarity.
As the horrors of Hitler’s death camps emerged, the brothels swiftly became taboo. The mainly German women who had staffed them were too scarred by the experience to speak of it, whereas the male inmates who used them remained silent in shame."
Wait, so are these tapes of concentration camp prisoners having sex with each other? These kinds of things exist? The fact that they exist is sicker than sick, the fact that someone watches them to get off is ...I can't even think of an applicable word. It does sound like Mel, since there are so few words that I can find for him.
As for #2, if someone is vegan then I can't really imagine them killing a pig since so many go vegan because of their refusal to have an animal suffer, even in a humane way. So I'm not sure about Woody. However, I really don't think this item is at all worthy of snark - it's far more humane than what goes on in meat factories.
My grandpa has an authentic Nazi flag, with holes from shrapnel in it. He's very proud of it, not what it represents, but just the fact that he has this part of history. He doesn't understand why people would be offended that he recently hung it up in his den. He thinks everyone will just automatically understand where he is coming from. :/
Oh come on, people, #1 is clearly made-up. Actual footage and pics from when the camps were in operation are extremely rare because the SS did _not_ want to leave behind visual records.
All this outrage and none at the BI writer who cooked up this bit, clearly intended to be Mel?
Plenty of pretty young Jewish girls were pulled out of the shower lines to service the Nazis. It is a fact. I am surprised that there is actual images of this. However, they recorded everything else, why not this?
Diana, I just wrote a report on PETA for a graduate course and they are beyond disgusting as well as misogynistic. If people want to help animals they should donate to shelters. PETA was charged for dumping dogs outside a shopping center. Dogs they had murdered! They have also marched in KKK gear!
@Boobies I know. It saddens me when my colleagues don't research the groups they associate with and believe the lies perpetuated by this particular group who is so clearly driven by public antics, delusion and narcissism. It's practically Scientology. Then again, whoring out for publicity even if it's controversial is nothing new in Hollywood. As long as you don't publicly admit to be gay...
Diana, I just wrote a report on PETA for a graduate course and they are beyond disgusting as well as misogynistic. If people want to help animals they should donate to shelters. PETA was charged for dumping dogs outside a shopping center. Dogs they had murdered! They have also marched in KKK gear!
"However, they recorded everything else, why not this?"
The SS actually suppressed almost all evidence of actual implementation of the Final Solution. Read a very good bio. of Reinhard Heydrich that goes into great detail about their disinformation policies. Thus why the footage of the Einsatzkomando Aktion at Baba Yar is so rare.
@ B. Profane--- The Nazis filmed everything, including their horrific medical experiments. Google nazi footage ww2 and page after page of what they did shows up. They may have kept it from the public at the time but they did document everything.
@Cancan, there's been limited proof that joy divisions were an actual thing. The band (Joy Division) took the name from the book House of Dolls, which most scholars consider a work of fiction.
I disagree with PETA bashing. You may not like their methods but at least they're trying to do something about the animal holocaust that is going on at factory farms. Take a look at this picture of a mother pig and her babies- http://earthberry.tumblr.com/post/21967364658/people-look-at-this-look-and-think-whats -And tell me that's ok.
I'm a vegetarian but I recognize that there are people who aren't. I'm not saying no one should kill animals for meat, but the torture, parent/baby separation, brutalizing and drugging going on for increased profits needs to be stopped. And at the very least, PETA is doing a lot more for these poor animals than a lot of others.
Oh dear Jah how awful. I'm assuming #1 is Mad Mel. Whoever it is, is a SICK FUCK and if it is Mel, he deserves to have everything done to him that he has screamed at everyone else all these years.
Not quite as disgusted by #2 if he's not making it suffer or getting off on it while doing so. Humans eat meat.
It is common knowledge these facilities existed. We just came back from a tour of Eastern Europe, including Auschwitz. Our tour guide pointed out the building where the women were held for the soldiers and camp workers. As rapes of Jewish women were common. No, those bastards did not believe Jewish women were so untouchable.
@ChasingHeaven, I wish you'd have posted a warning about how graphic that link was. I'm a huge animal lover and it was horrifying, I would have rather not seen that.
How is PETA a hypocrite? PETA speaks up for those who have no voice. I wonder how many of you would still eat meat if you had to slaughter it every day?
What's wrong with being disgusted by anybody killing a pig? I'm disgusted. I'm especially disgusted that it could be done by somebody who's a celebrity face for PETA. Whoever they are, they're no animal lover.
Again, if anyone were forced to watch videos of how factory farm animals are treated, you wouldn't be so eager to head to the BBQ place. Or maybe you would, because you're callous that way.
Members of PETA aren't callous that way. I hope they kick him out on his donkey butt.
--Yes, the Joy Divisions existed. --Yes, official SS documentary photographers did film a lot of the camps, including the medical experiments. --Yes, there is some rare official and unofficial SS and Wermacht footage of nude Jewish women just prior to gassing or being executed during Aktions. Horrible stuff.
Does this add up to there existing snuff films made in SS brothels? No! You're being played with a fabricated BI, and what's worse, Mel's virulent anti-Semitism or making up fake Holocaust fairy tales to pump up readership for your blog?
Why would an Enty who is liked/connected enough to pal around with Donal Logue do something this sleazy, and why doesn't it piss you off as much as PETA mistreating animals?
#1. Mel Gibson also popped into my head first, but I have second thoughts.. just no second guesses.
#2. Pig roasts are actually quite common down south as far as I know (I'm from Massachusetts, so actually what do I know! but from what I've heard anyway), and I don't see any issues with this one but I'll still guess. Anyway, when I saw the line "...one of the biggest shows in television history," I thought of Lost and searched to find that Dominic Monaghan has done some stuff for them. Now, I've never seen Lost or Lord of the Rings (just not my style) and I have no idea if he can be considered "almost A list" or not, but I'm throwing the idea out there.
Holocaust deniers can use twisted logic that allows them to still fetishize the abuse of the camps.
Look at how many of you namechecked and denounced Mel as culpable for #1. The BI writer(s) got what they wanted out of this fakery. Not that I have any sympathy for Gibson.
boy someone knows A LOT about Nazis and what did and didn't happen. ahem.
guess what? we weren't there!
and PETA? They put in a full page ad in the Winnipeg Free Press comparing the last moments of a man being beheaded on a Greyhound bus by a fucking nutjob to the last moments of a cow before slaughter. This ad was placed the DAY of the funeral in the town all his family lived. FUCK them.
Between 1942 and 1945, Auschwitz and nine other Nazi concentration camps contained brothels (Freudenabteilung "Joy Division"), mainly used to reward cooperative non-Jewish inmates.[1][2] Not only prostitutes were forced to work there. In the documentary film, Memory of the Camps, a project supervised by the British Ministry of Information and the American Office of War Information during the summer of 1945, camera crews filmed women who had been forced into sexual slavery for the use of guards and favored prisoners. The film makers stated that as the women died they were replaced by women from the concentration camp Ravensbrück.[3]
From ent lawyer to jaxx . You write that you are going to start writing more regularly and now it has been two weeks since your last post. I need more Jax postings in my life. Get with it. Yes, yes, I know you are voting today, but, you could write about that. You could write about drinking games while watching election results. "This just in" "We are now reporting" big time winners. "poll" will get you drunk in an hour sometimes.
Considering some of the things I've seen (WWIi is one of my history interests), it wouldn't surprise me that this kind of stuff is out there. Just in the past year or so I've seen programs on NatGeo that showed the personal scrapbook of a Nazi camp guard as well as footage of people being gunned down in front of trenches by the Einsatzgruppen. It's reasonable to think that stuff made for personal collections was later discovered / inherited / etc. and sold for personal gain and collector greed rather than being destroyed or being archived for its (albeit sickening) historical value. There are plenty of sick people in the world, it's just that someone in an industry like H'wood has the $ &/or clout to get their hands on it more easily than some.
@Due Diligence - he's saying that he wants Jax to post on her blog? What are you trying to get at? I don't think it's a big secret that ENT and Jax are friends.....
Right, someone with a personal connection to Enty accuses me of being an anti-Semite, just because I have the gall to point out this BI is obviously fake. Wrote it yourself, Jax?
I have two Jewish daughters, sweetheart. Go fuck yourself.
Hey B, a lot happens in this world we don't know about that shouldn't. Who would have believed American soldiers would film themselves urinating on deceased Afgans. It's entirely possible seedy footage and/or photos of Nazi prisoners made it into the private stash of an officer or 2 which in turn has been discreetly sold to private collectors by their descendents.
I know you think you're right, but it's unfair to insist others believe what can't be proven one way or the other.
Pictures, yes, but the BI says "movies". Film processing in the 40's was highly centralized, and clearly subject to tight censorship in a military dictatorship. A snuff film from the camp brothels would never have made it out of the lab.
There is absolutely no doubting of the Holocaust going on here. What clearly happened is that the latest in a slew of faked and manipulative BI's got exposed, only this one is massively sleazy.
Come on, people, faking up lurid Holocaust BI's? That's disgusting.
The BI doesn't even say they're authentic period films. I can get a copy of Schindler's List at Target for seven bucks: plenty of brothel sex, nudity and executions of Jews out of hand.
The BI is weasel-worded to be decoded as, "Mel Gibson spent a million bucks on Nazi snuff films of Jews." And that's just impossible, thus horribly manipulative of the history of the Holocaust, even it's directed at Mel.
Fine, let's drop it. But I think we can agree that Enty's ghosties need to be a little less mouthy and a lot more careful, yes?
Look, if the real Enty is tied up with a long trial or is laying low for the moment, everybody can understand that. So the BI's are being ghosted, and not particularly well, right now. OK. Just keep it within the bounds of decency.
The Japanese also used women from POW camps for 'brothels' (I call them what they are, places of rape). Unfortunately there is plenty of photographic and filmed evidence of the disgusting atrocities committed in Nazi Germany. One of the things that has always made me catch my breath is how the Jewish and other people's dignity was further attacked by their lack of clothing. Never forget!
B, I've thought I had unrevealed blinds nailed before, just to find out how wrong I was once they were revealed. The fact that Mel was a popular choice for this blind is due primarily to MEL's behavior.. NOT Enty's.
Your personal problem with Enty is just that.. personal. In the future, please email him and leave us out of it, thanks.
Oh this is all too sick and wrong, and with Mel's antics screams Mel. Hope it is revealed, SICK.
The second one is prob Woody or someone who lives in Hawaii where wild pigs run the land and everyone shoots them. I have only been a tourist but have seen 4 times pickups careening off the road after wild pigs that have ran across the road. They ruin crops and yards are are a general nusince so humanly killing them and having a feast for your meat eating neighbors makes perfect sense.
Dont think 2 is Woody, he is vegan and has been for a while. Am I the only one thinking George Clooney? He is also a Peta-supporter and his ex posed nude for an add. And he has a potbelly-pig (which makes it kinda sick, but mkay).
I think Mel for 1. But maybe that is too obvious:(
People saying here: the Germans didn't want to have sex with the Jews, they were disgusted by them, really need to look up stories/footage from WW2 (but that has already been stated above a million times:P)
People forget rape mostly even't is about sexual attraction, it is about power, control and humiliation. The Jews were already mistreated in the most horrible ways, why not add rape to the mix? It's not like the guards who did it were gonna get punished, they were actually applauded by eachother/their leaders for humiliating Jews even more.
It's sick, I have seen dozens of documentaries and the craziest stuff happens (mostly not onscreen, but disturbing things are heavily implied). For this reason Nazi's make me sick. If u agree with the things Hitler I am sure you have no empathy/IQ/values/morals whatsoever.
I have been interested in WW2 since I first heard about it in primary school. the question that bothers me the most is how the hell hitler did it.. turning so many people against eachother..People didn't act like people anymore, they were acting and treated like wild animals. And it makes me scared that it is possible to happen again; bad economy, scapegoat, powerfull,charismatic leader. UGH.
DueDiligence, yes, Jax has filled in for Enty on occasion, and when that's happened, she's said she's the one writing for the day. Why on earth would she say she was writing on some days, but not on others? And why the hell am I bothering to even say anything about these stupid conspiracy theories?
Now the responses are just down to plain denial. You can screech all you want, shills, it's obvious from the different writing styles that the blog is being ghosted right now.
I'll let it go because I'm pretty sure that the reaction of the actual Enty, when he read that BI, was something like, "What? You posted what to my blog? Do you know anything about the biz? Do you know what could happen to my practice if I'm linked to Holocaust fakery?!?" No more chumming up with Donal Logue or Joan Jett, that's for sure.
Bluffing on a busted flush when someone has already called your hand is pathetic. There are too many outside media eyes taking an interest in the blog, and who knows who else? Do you really want the ADL to start looking into why some anonymous blog is faking up false claims about the Holocaust?
I still remember the pig I ate in Hawaii! That was over twenty years ago. It was cooked from the inside out with lava rocks in a spit. I don't know how the pig was killed, but he was whole.
IDK about #2 and PETA can go screw themselves. It's possible to love animals/rescue them (I have 2x) and want to give them a voice, AND to eat meat. Their "either you're fully with us or against us" turns off a lot of people.
Re #1- to all the people who say never forget, you should really check in with the world we live in now. While its not as organized as the concentration camps in WW2, equally horrible things have happened since, in Bosnia, Rwanda, even going on right now in South Sudan and neighboring parts of Africa-- genocide, forced rape, etc. The mass graves outside Rwanda and Sarajevo are just as monstrous and deplorable as what happened during WW2. So my question is, if we must never forget, why do people not seem to understand that is has happened since... so it would seem either 1) we did forget or 2) the not forgetting doesn't apply equally to all people, that some people's lives are worth less than others. Which is disgusting.
I don't care to guess who is the subject of this possibly not real blind. I would care to see more people being tuned into the world around them now rather than being fixating on events of over 50 yrs ago when there are horrible current events that were/are preventable occurring NOW.
#2 Woody Harrelson
ReplyDelete#1. Nicolas Cage?
ReplyDelete#1 ruined my lunch for today.
ReplyDeleteok, that is just f*ing disgusting...to the point where I almost dont believe it.
ReplyDeleteNo clue for either...
#1. Mel Gibson?
ReplyDelete#1 Mel
ReplyDelete#2 ??
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ReplyDeleteNo. 1 is too obvious to be Mad Mel.
ReplyDeleteNo. 2 George Clooney?
George Clooney had a pet pig at one point, so I doubt the second one is him.
DeleteI like the other guesses so far.
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ReplyDeleteNumber 2 is definitely Woody Harrelson. No one else on the PETA list below matches at all
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1. Mel?
ReplyDelete2. Uh, as long as he doesn't torture the pig, why is this gasp worthy? I'm sure the companies that kill pigs for supermarket meat are much more inhumane. It's like how my brother has chickens on his farm and they kill and eat them.
I personally can't kill a spider in my home even, but I don't get the OMGGGGGGG as long as this actor is humane about it.
If # 2 is killing the pig humanely and in a sanitary manner, what's the issue here, even as a PETA supporter? I'm an animal lover myself, but I'm not a vegetarian and can only hope for the ethical slaughter of animals used for food. It's not as if he is secretly hunting big game and leaving the animals to suffer and the carcasses to rot or running a dog fighting ring.
ReplyDelete#1 is probably meant to be Mel Gibson, but it sounds really far fetched.
Can't be Mel for #1. He doesn't even believe the holocaust happened.
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ReplyDeleteYes, there's nothing hotter than watching naked people being marched to the "showers."
ReplyDeleteThat is so foul.
2. Woody Harrelson -- PETA loves him.
Woody Harrelson for 2, but I don't see a problem with that. Knowing how to prepare meat is a valuable skill and and the pig is probably killed in humane fashion, better than in a slaughterhouse. No. 1 is sick.
ReplyDelete#2 isn't shocking in and of itself. It's the context (i.e. the lie).
ReplyDeleteThat said, in light of #1, it doesn't really compare.
@Tara, I think Peta is anti eating meat too, right? I would imagine they would definitely be against killing a little piggy at a party...they are against wearing wool, I cant imagine pig killing would be ok.
ReplyDeleteAnd I agree that Mel is too easy for #1
I think you are confusing "Why would rational humans be upset about him humanely killing a pig?" with "Why would PETA be upset about him humanely killing a pig?" Although there are many rational people who may say they support PETA, the organization itself isn't known for its clear-headed, logical responses to things.
ReplyDeleteBacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
ReplyDelete#1 is absolutely beyond foul, but I believe it's true. I know someone personally who collects Nazi memorabilia, and it disgusts me beyond measure.
ReplyDeleteHe has mannequins in his bedroom wearing WWII uniforms. How extra super duper creepy is that?
Big deal about #2.
ReplyDeleteI'm on the Mel Gibson train for #1 because he's such a foul douchenozzle.
Again, I think we're back in the land of far-fetched and slanted-to-pander BI's. Enty didn't write these, but he has control over what gets posted on the blog. Why this nonsense?
ReplyDelete1) Gibson
ReplyDelete2) as long as it's humanely raised and killed, no big deal
Many of the most violent killers in history have been collectors of Nazi memorabilia. Just sayin'. I'm thinking this person needs to be outed.
ReplyDeletePETA emphasizes vegetarianism, killing and eating a pig, regardless of how humanely it was killed, would be no-no.
crila 16 - laughed out loud !
ReplyDeleteI hope #1 is made up.
ReplyDeleteDoubt that #2 is Woody Harrelson - he is an avowed vegan/raw foods guy, so I can't really see him slaughtering a pig.
Oh, snap. It does say it does say "for guests."
I didn't realize there were such films in existence of the prisoners in the camps -- is that true? I also thought any results of experiments conducted were basically banned or destroyed. Though I'm not sure why I thought either. But, I mean, with the mass media era and information age that came later, doesn't it seem like the general public (1) would have by now seen bits of any such things and (2) know pretty widely that generally they existed???
ReplyDelete2) highly doubt it's Woody. He's vegan, and has been for a very long time. Even had them make him special vegan twinkles to eat in Zombieland
ReplyDeleteWow. Just wow. There HAS to be a special place in Hell reserved for person #1.
ReplyDelete1- I'm beyond disgusted, enraged and deeply saddened.
ReplyDelete2- Woody would make sense since he lives in Hawaii, right? That is something that sometimes happens there, right?
That's why I am guessing woody. a luau!
DeleteBut euthanizing dogs that are perfectly adoptable is fine b/c to have an owner that loves and cares for you is considered abuse by these PETA nut jobs.
ReplyDeleteI believe tapes exist, almost like snuff films.. I mean, the documentaries on WWII and the concentration camp videos tear me up everytime. Considering they were nude most of the time, its' not shocking that these tapes still exist.
ReplyDeleteDiana, that's why I don't support PETA. They're horrible hypocrites.
ReplyDelete@Vicki And yet they're classified as an animal shelter in VA where they kill up to 95% of the animals they take in. It's absurd that they're allowed to operate.
DeleteWoody is a vegan. That makes him less hot to me.
ReplyDeleteMe said it perfectly.
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ReplyDeleteLOL @FSP. Haven't watched that in awhile.
ReplyDelete1. Mel has managed to shock me so often in so many unexpected ways, he seems a distinct possibility. Who but someone who hated the unfortunate people being watched on film could objectify their plight to the extent of getting off on it.
ReplyDelete2. Not sure, now that anita_mark said that Woody's a vegan. He was my guess.
Woody wouldn't necessarily have to eat the pig, just kill it in a humane way. I can see him doing that. I doubt most PETA people follow everything to the exact letter when it comes to their beliefs.
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DianaofThemyscira, that's disgusting! They're like the WalMart of animal care. I only donate to no-kill shelters now. I love the Mann Cat Shelter in the UK. They have an insanely addictive webcam. And I just saw a link for a no-kill shelter in Seal Beach, CA, on Facebook. Gonna have to start keeping a list!
ReplyDelete"got his break on one of the biggest shows in television history "
ReplyDeletecheers?? then woody.
No Nazi would want to have sex with a Jewish person being that they had such contempt for them. I refuse to believe there is any sex tapes of that that exist. Whoever is making this crap up is disgusting.
ReplyDelete@Saints Sexual torture and humiliation. It doesn't have to be straight up porn, in fact, it's probably more like a snuff film than a regular porno.
DeleteI'm sure if you google nazi/concentration camp fetish films, you will find something.
ReplyDeleteAs for PETA and their ilk, I know enough people who have been harmed by their petty, "do good" ways, without going into the hypocrisy of their supporters.
@Amy - while the idea of these films are digusting, they shouldn't be disposed of - it's too easy to deny the Holocaust ever happened if there isn't any visual evidence of it. I remember reading about Eisenhower dragging the local citizens through the concentration camps so they couldn't deny that they existed. As long as the photographs and films exist, they can't deny it happened, although I've heard there are a few hard core idiots/bigots who say the films are faked. Never forget!
ReplyDelete@susanb Exactly! If anything they should be archived, not necessarily published, at the Museum of Tolerance and other Jewish organizations that exist so people never forget.
Delete@susanb, Diana: word. I am continually stunned by people's lack of knowledge about history. Never forget, or we're doomed to repeat.
DeleteCouldn't agree more!
DeleteVicki, I want to watch the webcam but I'm at work. It's going to be forever before I can get home and watch it. I'm assuming it's of cats?
ReplyDeleteIf #1 is true, the sickness and depravity in Hollyweird is indeed boundless. I don't think it's Mel, but I think we're supposed to think it's him.
ReplyDeleteAs for #2, if the animal is humanely killed for food,it's hard to prefer that over a slaughterhouse that is not run by the standards of Temple Grandin.
@Del Sickness and depravity exists everywhere. You just have to read the news, current and past.
Delete^*not to prefer*
ReplyDeleteAnita, it's at manncat.org. I think they have two webcams now. It's mostly cats. There are some dogs and a parrot and I think a chicken or two. If I ever go to Europe, I'm going to the Isle of Mann just so I can visit the sanctuary!
ReplyDelete@SaintsFan, apparently it wasn't the Nazi's having sex (although they may have filmed others having it):
ReplyDelete"Nazi commander Heinrich Himmler had ordered the creation of camp brothels in 1941. His logic was chilling — male prisoners would work harder if offered the incentive of sex, and if only a few had this privilege it would crush solidarity.
As the horrors of Hitler’s death camps emerged, the brothels swiftly became taboo. The mainly German women who had staffed them were too scarred by the experience to speak of it, whereas the male inmates who used them remained silent in shame."
http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2007/07/12/nazi-use-of-prostitution-in-concentration-camps/
#1 is vomit worthy.
ReplyDelete#2 Maybe Ricky Gervais?
Wait, so are these tapes of concentration camp prisoners having sex with each other? These kinds of things exist? The fact that they exist is sicker than sick, the fact that someone watches them to get off is ...I can't even think of an applicable word. It does sound like Mel, since there are so few words that I can find for him.
ReplyDeleteAs for #2, if someone is vegan then I can't really imagine them killing a pig since so many go vegan because of their refusal to have an animal suffer, even in a humane way. So I'm not sure about Woody. However, I really don't think this item is at all worthy of snark - it's far more humane than what goes on in meat factories.
@SaintsFan - read your history books. This happened.
ReplyDeleteIf I was to guess b/c I actually believed #1, I would go for Mel's dad not Mel himself. Mel is fucked but I don't think he's that kind of fucked.
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ReplyDeleteMy grandpa has an authentic Nazi flag, with holes from shrapnel in it. He's very proud of it, not what it represents, but just the fact that he has this part of history. He doesn't understand why people would be offended that he recently hung it up in his den. He thinks everyone will just automatically understand where he is coming from. :/
ReplyDeleteSad and weird.
DeleteJust because I'm a vegan doesn't mean I'm going to force guests to eat vegan as well or vice versa. #2 is silly.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, here's WHY PETA euthanizes...
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2009/03/30/Why-We-Euthanize.aspx
Oh come on, people, #1 is clearly made-up. Actual footage and pics from when the camps were in operation are extremely rare because the SS did _not_ want to leave behind visual records.
ReplyDeleteAll this outrage and none at the BI writer who cooked up this bit, clearly intended to be Mel?
Petakillsanimals.com
ReplyDeleteThey're both beyond disgusting, with one being far worse.
ReplyDeletePlenty of pretty young Jewish girls were pulled out of the shower lines to service the Nazis. It is a fact. I am surprised that there is actual images of this. However, they recorded everything else, why not this?
ReplyDeleteDiana, I just wrote a report on PETA for a graduate course and they are beyond disgusting as well as misogynistic. If people want to help animals they should donate to shelters. PETA was charged for dumping dogs outside a shopping center. Dogs they had murdered! They have also marched in KKK gear!
ReplyDelete@Boobies I know. It saddens me when my colleagues don't research the groups they associate with and believe the lies perpetuated by this particular group who is so clearly driven by public antics, delusion and narcissism. It's practically Scientology. Then again, whoring out for publicity even if it's controversial is nothing new in Hollywood. As long as you don't publicly admit to be gay...
DeleteWoohoo, shoutout to my Isle of Man roots! My grandfather was born and raised there.
ReplyDeleteAlso, to tie it in further to these blinds, the IoM was the site of a POW camp during WWII.
I'm surprised no one has pointed out what the name for these camp brothels was: Joy Division.
ReplyDeleteDiana, I just wrote a report on PETA for a graduate course and they are beyond disgusting as well as misogynistic. If people want to help animals they should donate to shelters. PETA was charged for dumping dogs outside a shopping center. Dogs they had murdered! They have also marched in KKK gear!
ReplyDelete"However, they recorded everything else, why not this?"
ReplyDeleteThe SS actually suppressed almost all evidence of actual implementation of the Final Solution. Read a very good bio. of Reinhard Heydrich that goes into great detail about their disinformation policies. Thus why the footage of the Einsatzkomando Aktion at Baba Yar is so rare.
PETA dressing as the Klan? Got a cite?
Google 2008 PETA KKK ad. The AKC being equivalent to the KKK.
ReplyDelete@ B. Profane--- The Nazis filmed everything, including their horrific medical experiments. Google nazi footage ww2 and page after page of what they did shows up. They may have kept it from the public at the time but they did document everything.
ReplyDelete@Cancan, there's been limited proof that joy divisions were an actual thing. The band (Joy Division) took the name from the book House of Dolls, which most scholars consider a work of fiction.
ReplyDeleteThat's not to say that sexual slavery didn't occur, just not likely in joy divisions.
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ReplyDeleteI disagree with PETA bashing. You may not like their methods but at least they're trying to do something about the animal holocaust that is going on at factory farms. Take a look at this picture of a mother pig and her babies- http://earthberry.tumblr.com/post/21967364658/people-look-at-this-look-and-think-whats -And tell me that's ok.
ReplyDeleteI'm a vegetarian but I recognize that there are people who aren't. I'm not saying no one should kill animals for meat, but the torture, parent/baby separation, brutalizing and drugging going on for increased profits needs to be stopped. And at the very least, PETA is doing a lot more for these poor animals than a lot of others.
Oh dear Jah how awful. I'm assuming #1 is Mad Mel. Whoever it is, is a SICK FUCK and if it is Mel, he deserves to have everything done to him that he has screamed at everyone else all these years.
ReplyDeleteNot quite as disgusted by #2 if he's not making it suffer or getting off on it while doing so. Humans eat meat.
And PLEASE reveal #1. So we can vilify this sicko to his hopefully heinous deathbed.
ReplyDeleteRe sexual slavery WWII :
ReplyDeletehttp://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,459704,00.html..
I think the 1st part of this blind is BS and beneath the writers.
It is common knowledge these facilities existed. We just came back from a tour of Eastern Europe, including Auschwitz. Our tour guide pointed out the building where the women were held for the soldiers and camp workers. As rapes of Jewish women were common. No, those bastards did not believe Jewish women were so untouchable.
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ReplyDeleteMel .. you sick f*ck.
ReplyDelete@ChasingHeaven, I wish you'd have posted a warning about how graphic that link was. I'm a huge animal lover and it was horrifying, I would have rather not seen that.
ReplyDeleteHow is PETA a hypocrite? PETA speaks up for those who have no voice. I wonder how many of you would still eat meat if you had to slaughter it every day?
ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong with being disgusted by anybody killing a pig? I'm disgusted. I'm especially disgusted that it could be done by somebody who's a celebrity face for PETA. Whoever they are, they're no animal lover.
Again, if anyone were forced to watch videos of how factory farm animals are treated, you wouldn't be so eager to head to the BBQ place. Or maybe you would, because you're callous that way.
Members of PETA aren't callous that way. I hope they kick him out on his donkey butt.
WTF #1?! What is wrong with this person. I hope this blind IS made up.
ReplyDeleteFor #1, is it certain these films are purchased to view and not destroy?
ReplyDeleteYES THESE FILMS EXIST but you have to know some seedy people to get them ,hence the million dollar price tag, NO, ITS NOT MEL GIB
ReplyDelete#2 do you really care
MIT has the Menegele experiment papers and documents. They are used as reference since obviously those experiments can not be repeated.
ReplyDeleteOh, you people:
ReplyDelete--Yes, the Joy Divisions existed.
--Yes, official SS documentary photographers did film a lot of the camps, including the medical experiments.
--Yes, there is some rare official and unofficial SS and Wermacht footage of nude Jewish women just prior to gassing or being executed during Aktions. Horrible stuff.
Does this add up to there existing snuff films made in SS brothels? No! You're being played with a fabricated BI, and what's worse, Mel's virulent anti-Semitism or making up fake Holocaust fairy tales to pump up readership for your blog?
Why would an Enty who is liked/connected enough to pal around with Donal Logue do something this sleazy, and why doesn't it piss you off as much as PETA mistreating animals?
I think Mel is too obvious of a choice for #1, plus like someone said, it can't be him because he doesn't believe the Holocaust happened.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking it will be more of a shocker like Jack Nicholson or Nicolas Cage.
#1. Mel Gibson also popped into my head first, but I have second thoughts.. just no second guesses.
ReplyDelete#2. Pig roasts are actually quite common down south as far as I know (I'm from Massachusetts, so actually what do I know! but from what I've heard anyway), and I don't see any issues with this one but I'll still guess. Anyway, when I saw the line "...one of the biggest shows in television history," I thought of Lost and searched to find that Dominic Monaghan has done some stuff for them. Now, I've never seen Lost or Lord of the Rings (just not my style) and I have no idea if he can be considered "almost A list" or not, but I'm throwing the idea out there.
Holocaust deniers can use twisted logic that allows them to still fetishize the abuse of the camps.
ReplyDeleteLook at how many of you namechecked and denounced Mel as culpable for #1. The BI writer(s) got what they wanted out of this fakery. Not that I have any sympathy for Gibson.
boy someone knows A LOT about Nazis and what did and didn't happen.
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guess what? we weren't there!
and PETA? They put in a full page ad in the Winnipeg Free Press comparing the last moments of a man being beheaded on a Greyhound bus by a fucking nutjob to the last moments of a cow before slaughter.
This ad was placed the DAY of the funeral in the town all his family lived.
FUCK them.
Longtime lurker, first time poster, user of bad cliches......
ReplyDeleteCould #1 be Tom Cruise??? He did star in "Valkyrie" and I find him creepy enough to get into something like that.
It did happen, please don't be so dismissing....
ReplyDeleteBetween 1942 and 1945, Auschwitz and nine other Nazi concentration camps contained brothels (Freudenabteilung "Joy Division"), mainly used to reward cooperative non-Jewish inmates.[1][2] Not only prostitutes were forced to work there. In the documentary film, Memory of the Camps, a project supervised by the British Ministry of Information and the American Office of War Information during the summer of 1945, camera crews filmed women who had been forced into sexual slavery for the use of guards and favored prisoners. The film makers stated that as the women died they were replaced by women from the concentration camp Ravensbrück.[3]
Meant to say dismissive sorry.
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You write that you are going to start writing more regularly and now it has been two weeks since your last post. I need more Jax postings in my life. Get with it. Yes, yes, I know you are voting today, but, you could write about that. You could write about drinking games while watching election results. "This just in" "We are now reporting" big time winners. "poll" will get you drunk in an hour sometimes.
November 19, 2011 10:05 AM
Considering some of the things I've seen (WWIi is one of my history interests), it wouldn't surprise me that this kind of stuff is out there. Just in the past year or so I've seen programs on NatGeo that showed the personal scrapbook of a Nazi camp guard as well as footage of people being gunned down in front of trenches by the Einsatzgruppen. It's reasonable to think that stuff made for personal collections was later discovered / inherited / etc. and sold for personal gain and collector greed rather than being destroyed or being archived for its (albeit sickening) historical value. There are plenty of sick people in the world, it's just that someone in an industry like H'wood has the $ &/or clout to get their hands on it more easily than some.
ReplyDelete@DianaofThermyscira, oh, I'm all to aware that it exists everywhere. It just seems like we've had a spate of sickos being reported on lately.
ReplyDeleteI think they gather where they can get away with their behavior.
I'm still counting on Karma or the God of your choice taking care of these sick fucks.
@Due Diligence - he's saying that he wants Jax to post on her blog? What are you trying to get at? I don't think it's a big secret that ENT and Jax are friends.....
ReplyDelete...and it's also no secret that jaxx fills in for enty as a ghost writer on this blog .. it is merely a comment regarding integrity.
ReplyDeleteRight, someone with a personal connection to Enty accuses me of being an anti-Semite, just because I have the gall to point out this BI is obviously fake. Wrote it yourself, Jax?
ReplyDeleteI have two Jewish daughters, sweetheart. Go fuck yourself.
Hey B, a lot happens in this world we don't know about that shouldn't. Who would have believed American soldiers would film themselves urinating on deceased Afgans. It's entirely possible seedy footage and/or photos of Nazi prisoners made it into the private stash of an officer or 2 which in turn has been discreetly sold to private collectors by their descendents.
ReplyDeleteI know you think you're right, but it's unfair to insist others believe what can't be proven one way or the other.
I urge any doubters of Nazi atrocities to watch this documentary, called Memory of the Camps - free online
ReplyDeletehttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/camp/view/
Pictures, yes, but the BI says "movies". Film processing in the 40's was highly centralized, and clearly subject to tight censorship in a military dictatorship. A snuff film from the camp brothels would never have made it out of the lab.
ReplyDeleteThere is absolutely no doubting of the Holocaust going on here. What clearly happened is that the latest in a slew of faked and manipulative BI's got exposed, only this one is massively sleazy.
Come on, people, faking up lurid Holocaust BI's? That's disgusting.
B. I know this is ultra sensitive for you but Enty didn't say snuff films, he said sex and nudity....
ReplyDeleteThanks astrogirl. I couldn't decipher what B. was really getting at either.
ReplyDeleteB, your pushy and disrespectful attitude is making me far more suspicious of your motives than Enty's.
The BI doesn't even say they're authentic period films. I can get a copy of Schindler's List at Target for seven bucks: plenty of brothel sex, nudity and executions of Jews out of hand.
ReplyDeleteThe BI is weasel-worded to be decoded as, "Mel Gibson spent a million bucks on Nazi snuff films of Jews." And that's just impossible, thus horribly manipulative of the history of the Holocaust, even it's directed at Mel.
Fine, let's drop it. But I think we can agree that Enty's ghosties need to be a little less mouthy and a lot more careful, yes?
Look, if the real Enty is tied up with a long trial or is laying low for the moment, everybody can understand that. So the BI's are being ghosted, and not particularly well, right now. OK. Just keep it within the bounds of decency.
The Japanese also used women from POW camps for 'brothels' (I call them what they are, places of rape). Unfortunately there is plenty of photographic and filmed evidence of the disgusting atrocities committed in Nazi Germany. One of the things that has always made me catch my breath is how the Jewish and other people's dignity was further attacked by their lack of clothing. Never forget!
ReplyDeleteSad truth feraltart is that ever since wars existed ie our whole world history; girls and women have been the spoils of war for the victors.
ReplyDeleteB, I've thought I had unrevealed blinds nailed before, just to find out how wrong I was once they were revealed. The fact that Mel was a popular choice for this blind is due primarily to MEL's behavior.. NOT Enty's.
ReplyDeleteYour personal problem with Enty is just that.. personal. In the future, please email him and leave us out of it, thanks.
Oh this is all too sick and wrong, and with Mel's antics screams Mel. Hope it is revealed, SICK.
ReplyDeleteThe second one is prob Woody or someone who lives in Hawaii where wild pigs run the land and everyone shoots them. I have only been a tourist but have seen 4 times pickups careening off the road after wild pigs that have ran across the road. They ruin crops and yards are are a general nusince so humanly killing them and having a feast for your meat eating neighbors makes perfect sense.
Dont think 2 is Woody, he is vegan and has been for a while. Am I the only one thinking George Clooney? He is also a Peta-supporter and his ex posed nude for an add. And he has a potbelly-pig (which makes it kinda sick, but mkay).
ReplyDeleteI think Mel for 1. But maybe that is too obvious:(
People saying here: the Germans didn't want to have sex with the Jews, they were disgusted by them, really need to look up stories/footage from WW2 (but that has already been stated above a million times:P)
ReplyDeletePeople forget rape mostly even't is about sexual attraction, it is about power, control and humiliation. The Jews were already mistreated in the most horrible ways, why not add rape to the mix? It's not like the guards who did it were gonna get punished, they were actually applauded by eachother/their leaders for humiliating Jews even more.
It's sick, I have seen dozens of documentaries and the craziest stuff happens (mostly not onscreen, but disturbing things are heavily implied). For this reason Nazi's make me sick. If u agree with the things Hitler I am sure you have no empathy/IQ/values/morals whatsoever.
I have been interested in WW2 since I first heard about it in primary school. the question that bothers me the most is how the hell hitler did it.. turning so many people against eachother..People didn't act like people anymore, they were acting and treated like wild animals. And it makes me scared that it is possible to happen again; bad economy, scapegoat, powerfull,charismatic leader. UGH.
DueDiligence, yes, Jax has filled in for Enty on occasion, and when that's happened, she's said she's the one writing for the day. Why on earth would she say she was writing on some days, but not on others? And why the hell am I bothering to even say anything about these stupid conspiracy theories?
ReplyDeleteNow the responses are just down to plain denial. You can screech all you want, shills, it's obvious from the different writing styles that the blog is being ghosted right now.
ReplyDeleteI'll let it go because I'm pretty sure that the reaction of the actual Enty, when he read that BI, was something like, "What? You posted what to my blog? Do you know anything about the biz? Do you know what could happen to my practice if I'm linked to Holocaust fakery?!?" No more chumming up with Donal Logue or Joan Jett, that's for sure.
Bluffing on a busted flush when someone has already called your hand is pathetic. There are too many outside media eyes taking an interest in the blog, and who knows who else? Do you really want the ADL to start looking into why some anonymous blog is faking up false claims about the Holocaust?
I like Nic Cage for #1 just because he's famous for finding absolutely batshit crazy ways to burn through money.
ReplyDeleteI still remember the pig I ate in Hawaii! That was over twenty years ago. It was cooked from the inside out with lava rocks in a spit. I don't know how the pig was killed, but he was whole.
ReplyDelete1- Ben Stiller he's creepy
ReplyDelete1- Ben Stiller he's creepy
ReplyDelete1. woody allen
ReplyDelete2. dunno
IDK about #2 and PETA can go screw themselves. It's possible to love animals/rescue them (I have 2x) and want to give them a voice, AND to eat meat. Their "either you're fully with us or against us" turns off a lot of people.
ReplyDeleteRe #1- to all the people who say never forget, you should really check in with the world we live in now. While its not as organized as the concentration camps in WW2, equally horrible things have happened since, in Bosnia, Rwanda, even going on right now in South Sudan and neighboring parts of Africa-- genocide, forced rape, etc. The mass graves outside Rwanda and Sarajevo are just as monstrous and deplorable as what happened during WW2. So my question is, if we must never forget, why do people not seem to understand that is has happened since... so it would seem either 1) we did forget or 2) the not forgetting doesn't apply equally to all people, that some people's lives are worth less than others. Which is disgusting.
I don't care to guess who is the subject of this possibly not real blind. I would care to see more people being tuned into the world around them now rather than being fixating on events of over 50 yrs ago when there are horrible current events that were/are preventable occurring NOW.
#2. iDK why Leo DiCaprio crossed my mind
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