Yesterday when I read about Daniel Chong I could not believe a law enforcement agency could not remember putting someone in a cell 5 days earlier and then forgetting about him. When I heard the initial statement on the issue I was even more ticked off. If you forget someone and they have to drink their urine to survive and try to kill themselves because they think no one is ever coming to rescue them, the statement you should make is "We are sorry." That's it. Nothing else. Instead, the DEA spokesperson originally stated that since Daniel was arrested at a party getting high, that he kind of deserved it. Seriously? He was never even charged with anything. Luckily the head of the San Diego DEA office issued a much better apology and when the DEA is forced to spend millions of dollars in compensation, and several people get fired, then perhaps a lesson will be learned.
Please provide a link to the news story so we know what you are talking about.
ReplyDeleteIt's all over the news, Anita. He's suing for $20 mil and I hope he wins.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/daniel-chong-ucsd-san-diego-dea-149758275.html
ReplyDeleteThis is where I read it this morning. Horrific.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-74660-5-.htm#74660
In the first article I read about it, it said he did meth found in the cell! I spent so much time wondering how the hell that happened, but in all the subsequent articles, I see no mention of that.
ReplyDeleteI think the way this poor kid tried to kill himself makes it even more horrifying. Breaking his eyeglasses and using the shards of his lenses?? Good lord, how desperate could he have been? Hope he gets every penny of the $20mil.
Um, the real Enty would have noted that, due to sovereign immunity, the poor kid won't even clear seven-figures in the eventual settlement.
ReplyDeleteIn cases of LEO misconduct like these, 10X damages and mandatory jail time should be the legal standard. The badge is not a shield FROM the populace, it's a shield FOR the people.
B. Profane, do you claim to be a lawyer? I thought when you said you were "in the biz" you meant the entertainment industry.
ReplyDeleteThere are obviously ways around sovereign immunity. This isn't my area of law at all, so I won't claim to be an expert (and any lawyer worth his or her salt would never claim to know all areas of law) but the Federal Tort Claims Act may be invoked here, depending on what claim is used. It doesn't look like a tort on its face but there are surely more details there. And there are other methods of getting around sovereign immunity as well. I don't practice federal law but states and municipalities have their own versions of special courts that handle suits against them. In all likelihood there will be a settlement though.
This is so reprehensible. I can't imagine what that poor kid was experiencing in those days.
Seaward I also read he did meth.
ReplyDeleteThis is a complete nightmare. Horror movie stuff. That poor kid!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the links @robert & @Tam.
Seaward in one of the articles linked he mentions finding a white powder in the cell and ingesting it to survive. Unbelievable what he went through.
ReplyDeleteB. Profane are you a legal expert? lawyer? paralegal?
ReplyDeleteyou might remember someone named rodney king? he was beaten by la police and it was videotaped? the police wanted to settle for $1.75 million and he said no and went to trial and was awarded $3.8 million by the jury. and that was almost 20 years ago. so, apparently you're not as up on sovereign immunity as you might think.
The treatment of this boy is completely inexcusable and indefensible. It doesn't matter whether he was high or not at a party. If he was suspected of a crime, charge and process him.
ReplyDeleteI'm in Canada, I haven't seen this on the news. And lately, some posts have been very vague or not fact-checked or whatever and then everyone comments and then the real story comes out and we all look a little foolish.
ReplyDeleteThe inventor of Cheezies died. That's where all my emotion is going today.
Gotta love the conspiracy theorists.
ReplyDeleteSeriously B.Profane, what does sovereign immunity have to do with this?
@LeeLee--I am not an attorney, and I would defer to your opinion as an actual one. My understanding of FCTA and relevant case law is that it just flipped up a corner on the blanket of Federal sovereign immunity. You would probably know better.
ReplyDeletePoor kid should have been sprung on a habeus action long before he was drinking his own pee. But does habeus even still exist in a post-9/11 US?
@annabella and Cindy--Come on, now, sovereign immunity has everything to do with this kid getting damages in a tort action. Rodney King was a state law case, not Fed, and, as I recall, plaintiffs jury-shopped well. The RK case spawned Watts-scale rioting in a major city, it's no surprise that he got a good judgement. That doesn't mean that this kid will.
ReplyDeletelol okay B, I can tell you're just joking now, bringing up writ of habeas. But since you seem to have an interest in legal discussion, I recommend reading legal blogs. Enty may be a lawyer or may claim to be one, but he's certainly never claimed this is a legal blog. I'd recommend the volokh conspiracy for a well written legal blog if you can handle the strong Libertarian leaning of the contributors.
ReplyDeleteAnita, other commenters have linked to articles about this story and it seems legit.
You can only live up to 5 days without water. This poor kid. Whoever was in charge should be fired.
ReplyDelete@LeeLee--God, I hope you're not actually practicing counsel. Kid was supposedly jailed for five days without charges being filed. Absolutely classic habeus case!
ReplyDeleteB Profane, of COURSE there would be a habeus case if anyone KNEW he was jailed. But if the authorities KNEW he was jailed he would have been released. It's a little difficult to bring a habeus claim when no one is aware there even is a prisoner.
ReplyDeleteI've tried to be civil with you, but you're just being rude for no reason. If you want to argue with other non-lawyers who think they know a lot about the law, I really do think you'd enjoy the comment section of Volokh. There are a ton of non-lawyer know-it-all's like yourself.
"Enty" claims that all of the content of this blog, with identified exceptions, are written by him. No lawyer who has ever practiced in these 50 states would say a word about what supposedly happened to this kid without citing habeas or, with regard to him getting damages for his tort, sovereign immunity.
ReplyDeleteI was gently reminding whoever wrote that posting that if you don't want to totally discredit CDAN, you should probably have entries like this reviewed by an attorney, or know something about the law yourself.
B Profane, your statements are ridiculous. Do you understand what habeaus actions are actually for? It really appears that you do not. They're for releasing prisoners who are KNOWINGLY being held. Did you read any of the articles linked here? The authorities are NOT claiming they had a right to hold this young man. They're saying they forgot about him.
ReplyDeleteAnd you're wrong about your analysis of the law. You hate Enty, I get it, and he's certainly said many things that are wrong when it comes to the law. But you acting as though lawyers don't misunderstand the law, especially areas of the law they don't practice, is ludicrous. Lawyers become specialized fairly quickly, and if you're not a civil litigator, your knowledge of civil litigation will generally be limited to what you learned as a 1L however many years ago. If you want to discredit Enty's persona, which you very clearly do, this isn't the best way to go about it.
@LeeLee--OK, now I know you're not an attorney:
ReplyDelete--You repeated my misspelling of "habeas". You're not going to pass the bar exam anywhere if you can't spell habeas correctly.
--Any attorney in the US would cite habeas within five seconds of discussing this case. Shall I call up my good friend, long-time counsel for the CA ACLU, just to check? No, I think I'll not bother her.
Why is "LeeLee" going out of her way to push me away from this blog for pointing out, again, factual mistakes that discredit the blog? Hmmmm....
Okay I give up. I've made it very clear this isn't my area of expertise. You win, I am Enty! All your conspiracies are right!
ReplyDeletePLEASE call your CA ACLU friend to check on whether "any attorney" in the US would cite habeas when writing an entertainment blog article that basically copies what other articles already say about the facts of a case. I hope he conducts a poll of every attorney in the US to find out.
I'll learn to just ignore your ramblings from now on.
Profane feels the need to comment on every single post, something he/she/it feels is evidence that Enty is a fraud. I'm not sure why anyone would spend so much time and effort on something they think is fake.
ReplyDeleteLet's all try not to feed the troll. Just ignore it and maybe it will go away.
Sure, "ridiculous", "hate Enty", why do I have a feeling I'm having a direct conversation with the actual author of that blog posting at the moment? BTW, you've now misspelled "habeas" more ways than I did originally.
ReplyDeleteYes, I think I understand the application of habeas better than you, since you are definitely not an attorney. I heard about the application of habeas in Federal court over the breakfast table--literally for years--from plaintiff's counsel who was working on a landmark habeas case in CA.
Char, I'm going to try my best! It's certainly not worth getting upset over.
ReplyDeletei dont think there's anything wrong with b profane saying that whoever is writing this blog is off a lot. I think most long time posters know that Enty doesnt really post here anymore. The blog has definitely become more amateur. What was once snarky is not snitty. I still come here bc I think Enty sends some original content and i like that. I skim over the stories where the new enty write how ray j murdered whitney houston.
ReplyDeleteThe actual Enty could easily ban me from posting--why has he not?
ReplyDeleteIt's ludicrous to attack me as trying to discredit Enty when I'm the one who has pointed out detailed reasons why there likely is an actual Enty behind the blog. He's just not writing it at the moment.
Look, screech all you want, but after the Himmmm debacle there are too many eyes in the "legitimate press" or other gossip outlets reading the responses here, and they will take my postings, and the responses attacking me, and cite them as proof to really discredit the blog. So maybe y'all oughta just shut up a little? Trying to shout me down or shun me as a troll is not going to work.
Another attorney checking in--and I'm admitted to practice in 2 of our 50 states. The point of a habeas action is to obtain the release of a prisoner. The student is no longer imprisoned ergo not a habeas case.
ReplyDeleteLeeLee-
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your comments. It's nice to hear an attorney state that he/she is not an expert in every area of the law (that goes for many professions). I don't know what area you specialize in, but I'd bet you are very good and are well respected in your field.
Thanks for your comments.
Steppy, aren't you the COS shill?
ReplyDeleteShe is! Say something about Tom Cruise and watch the fireworks.
DeleteB. P, I think you're giving this site a little too much credit. The legitimate press is going to use your comments to discredit this celebrity gossip blog? I have a very hard time believing that.
ReplyDeletelol Sleepy, I appreciate that. I work in corporate governance, so constitutional law issues are not at all my forte. But I also don't have a best friend at the ACLU telling me about their groundbreaking cases over breakfast everyday either, which is the true test of legal knowledge apparently ;)
ReplyDelete@ Leelee and B.Profane (hope I got the names right, I'm too lazy to go back and check)
ReplyDeleteI'll jump in as a practicing criminal defense attorney. I'm also licensed in a couple states, like someone else above.
- It was impossible for him to file a habeas. He didn't have a lawyer at the time, he had no access to WATER so he didn't have access to materials to write a legal memorandum, and no one knew he was there to file one on his behalf.
- I'm not suspicious that he was held for five days and "forgot", but I am suspicious about his whole story of "finding" meth in the cell and being so desperate for food that he ingested the white powder to survive. I think he just wanted to explain any drugs in his system so they wouldn't be used to defeat his claim or discredit him in some manner.
- He was at a 420 party. Is a pot smoking party really something to do a raid on in California? Seriously? Just wondering.
- Tort claims against entities such as the DEA are difficult, but not impossible. Throwing around figures like 2 or 3 million for this kid, if his story is believed, is not unreasonable. I've seen it happen. Rarely, but it can happen.
My two cents.
Not a tort lawyer, though I've handled lawsuits. I am an expert in criminal law. At least I hope I am. If I'm not, my clients are screwed. :)
It's always the cover-up that gets them, the lame apology, the rats running for cover. If the DEA came out and said, Yeah, we screwed up very badly, we fired the person(s) [identified] responsible, and we're incredibly fortunate this kid lived, then this issue would go away and civil penalties would be much reduced. But no, they have to blame the victim and cover their asses. Invitation to a lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteOh - and B.Profane - state cases go federal too. They just have to be above the jurisdictional amount.
ReplyDeleteI've seen city police get sued in federal court and the last case I watched the plaintiff was awarded $300k from the city and city police. And he was found to have contributorily negligent himself.
Could we please stop feeding the trolls here? We haven't fed them in the past and they just go away.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I think this could be just another example of how our society is being drained of resources by psychopaths. I vote for psychopathy all around. Of course, what agent would let this happen! All over a kid arrested at a party getting high. Who hired the agent that let this happen!?!??! There's someone who should be held accountable! This "kid" was 23, not 17. That's a bit old to "experiment" with drugs. This society is going to collapse until we adopt better breeding practices. Elected officials, such as senators, should have better things to do.
Government entities get lower verdicts in general.
ReplyDeleteGovernment entities, and employees, have all sorts of immunities and juries know they're awarding tax money (as opposed to insurance dough which apparently in the public mind is free money).
You really have to be stupid, like the DEA here, to get a big award.
You're right __, not a "kid."
ReplyDeleteGood Lord, is it a full moon rising?
ReplyDeleteFact is:
DEA = dumb fucks. Buncha hotshots with badges and a ginormous, outta control budget.
I wish I had been discussing case law with my ACLU friend over the breakfast table. She is cute and sweet and very smart. BTW, CA ladies, she's protecting your right to choose every day, so send those donation checks to the the CA ACLU, I can attest that they're going to support worthwhile counsel.
ReplyDelete@seaward--Eh, you're right, except that we're talking about "entertainment" journalists, and they'll print anything.
Jeez, you people. I like Enty. I like CDAN. And I suppose I should not be criticizing the blog in the wake of the post-Himmmm kerfluffle. But clearly some ghosties have their panties in knots, likely because they recognize my writing style from another gossip venue where I broke down some of Enty's BI's rather ruthlessly. Get a grip. Attacking me here ain't gonna work.
And, BTW, "LeeLee"? Go back and read the original CDAN posting about the Russell Brand/Katy Perry divorce settlement. "CDAN" claimed that Brand was gonna soak Perry in the settlement. I called bull, citing actual community property settlement practice in CA. CDAN, in a later posting, noted that Brand settled for essentially nothing.
So...CDAN itself validated my understanding of the relevant CA family code.
The poor kid deserves some compensation, so I hope he gets it. But that money is in no way a "punishment" for the DEA, who is just passing along additional tax dollars.
ReplyDeleteIf there's to be a punitive element here, I hope it is either monetary damages from the individual officers who did this to him, or administrative actions such as firing, etc.
you can't block people on blogger,smarty pants.
ReplyDeleteI am done feeding the troll, even though sometimes it's hard to resist.
ReplyDeleteI didn't realize the underlying offense that started all this was smoking pot. Crazy.
Well, there was something like 18,000 ecstasy pills, lots of illegal guns, and ammo in the house. So I assume the DEA knew about that and that's the reason for the raid. Timing it to coincide with 420, though, makes me think they were hoping to round up as many people as possible.
DeleteSupposedly the guy at the center of this was only smoking pot and didn't know anything about the other stuff. I totally believe that. I was once at a close friend's house, who I knew dealt pot. All of a sudden he said, "Wanna see something cool?" And showed me bricks upon bricks of fucking HEROIN stashed in his stereo. I NEVER would have expected him to be involved with that shit.
Although, I don't agree with discrediting LeeLee as a lawyer, I've enjoyed B. Profane's comments and he is certainly not a troll. All the long timers can attest to how much this blog has changed and I've enjoyed the differing theories. I mean look at the weird article in the NY Times!
ReplyDelete@Kara--Now there's a real attorney talking!
ReplyDeleteMy original point was just that, IF the poor kid's story is legit (and it does smell a bit, yes?), the LEO's who cuffed up him up should be in theory liable for kidnapping and abuse under the color of law, even if due to just plain negligence. And there oughta be much higher standard of tort damages in such cases for the sake of sovereign deterrence.
I've been on both sides of the fence with LEO's. Hell, I dated a nice lady whose sister was a G-girl. I had a couple of dates with a very pretty prosecutor who admitted over the soup that she could pretty much railroad anyone into a plea bargain for anything less than a murder pop. One of my other ex's was a PD whose whole job was, more or less, keeping insane defendants from getting railroaded into plea'ing out for felony convictions. I know and have known a whole shit-ton of ADA's, criminal defense attorneys, LEO's and attorneys very tightly connected to the actual making of criminal law in one of the biggest states in the US.
You want to know the truth about prosecutorial misconduct and sovereign immunity? Ask a former LEO who gets a law degree and goes into death-penalty defense. Mega-overkill for rep'ing you in getting a bogus bar scuffle beef dismissed, but you'll hear stories...
So, yeah, I would totally give the scutty side-eye to some federal regs atty. lecturing me about applicable statutes or case law regarding sovereign immunity or habeas in re. LEO's. If such a person actually exists who can both earn a law degree and still misspell "habeas" two different ways.
This story should scare the hell out of any US citizen who values his or her civil rights. I'm sure this is not a completely isolated incident. Serial killers are treated better. The DEA is comprised of bumbling fools. legalize.
ReplyDeleteBoobs--I wasn't taking issue with B's trying to uncover Enty's identity (though I don't understand the ferocity of it). I don't particularly care if Enty is a lawyer or not, or a woman or a man. But B made some ludicrous statements about how "every lawyer in the US" would have written this article (for an entertainment blog) and continues to insult me personally. From the start I said I wasn't a litigator, and both Kara's and Unknown's comments back me up on my original statements, but I don't have the energy that B does to continue this fight. If she wants to continue to insult me, and to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with her MUST be Enty, okay. I enjoy coming to this blog but some things are a little too far.
ReplyDeleteFunny. I had a casual checkout-counter conversation about the full-legalization initiative in WA the other day. Just your average citizen. "Well, it'll be legal in November." Say what now?
ReplyDeleteIt's just weird how these CDAN bits that I idly comment upon, and get embroiled with, turn out to have actual personal ties when I scrape back in my memory:
--I've actually collected sigs for earlier full-legalization efforts. I actually knew Brownie Mary. I've actually worked to org. legalization rallies. I actually knew one of the Fed-authorized marijuana medical researchers who came out for full legalization. I actually met, for example, Ed Rosenthal, etc. Woody ain't got nuthin' on me re. legalization!
--I've actually been in a Federal holding cell. The US Marshall Service, despite what you see in films, can be a little clueless. The kid's story smells a bit, but from what I've hear about the LEO practices of DEA branches, they're barely above operating as drug gangs themselves. C'mon, if the most famous "accidental discharge" firing on YouTube is a sworn DEA agent popping himself in the leg, can you doubt they'd leave some kid forgotten in a holding cell?
Yeah...call me a "troll" on this one!
DONT FEED THE TROLL!
ReplyDeleteB, I think you're a troll because of the way you react to things and to people. It's rude and troll-like and very aggressive. But I also sometimes don't understand what you're talking about, because of your writing style.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, I was correct in my comments to you--you can mock my spelling mistakes (though the fact that you think lawyers never misspell anything makes it evident you don't read their writings very often), but I was correct in my comments to you. You said 1) he'd never get a seven figure settlement because of sovereign immunity issues. I responded that there were ways around sovereign immunity and Kara agreed with that (you seem to trust her opinion which is why I'm pointing to it) and disagreed with your assessment and 2) that ANY lawyer in the United States (bold claim to make) when writing a brief article about what happened to this kid for an entertainment blog would have without a doubt mentioned habeas corpus. I disagreed with that assessment--not because I believe Enty is a lawyer, but because it was a non-issue in this case since no one knew the kid was there and he's already been released and both Unknown and Kara agreed with that. Your theoretical "but there COULD have been a habeas claim at some point!" isn't what you originally said. Sorry I didn't read your mind. You wanted to show off your knowledge and super cool friendships and experience and now you have.
I genuinely don't care that much about Enty's identity, if your goal in life is to expose who he really is or isn't, great, good for you. But you're rude and your accusing anyone who dares disagree with you of being an Enty or an Enty ghost is unnecessary. Fight the good fight man, expose this small time gossip blogger to not be the (obviously fabricated) 300 pound lawyer. I'm not sure what you'll gain from that, but if it brings you joy I will not stop you. While you're at it though, if you could use your skills to reveal some of the older blind items, I'd much appreciate it. Especially the one about the tv sitcom where the younger actor got an actress fired after she stopped sleeping with him. I've always been curious to know if that's Kirk Cameron.
Ohhhh, "LeeLee," why are you still trying? A hermeneutical analysis of the responses for this topic alone discredits CDAN. Which is not my intent. The more you try to obfuscate, misdirect and deter-via-orthogonal-attack, the bigger you dig the whole.
ReplyDeleteHow about just shutting up?
Ugh, would someone please page real-Enty to come clean up this mess?
Um, is anyone scrambling for their dictionary app?
Delete"I didn't realize the underlying offense that started all this was smoking pot. Crazy."
ReplyDeleteDid you read the article where the police grabbed all sorts of drugs (including meth) and weapons?
I don't understand how this man can be 'forgotten' about but this whole thing is weird. He turned down a ride home after his release, why?
He says he began hullacinating due to being held in there, but managed to find meth in the cell?
Should he have been abandoned? No. Is there more to this? I'd bet my salary on it. (But hey, I'm not a lawyer.)
Plus, I highly doubt that any attorney could pass the bar in any jurisdiction that would post the morass of punctuation errors that was "LeeLee"'s last posting.
ReplyDeleteGood lord, give it up! You are digging the hole deeper!
lol B Profane, you're mentally unstable. Best of luck dude.
ReplyDeleteABlake, I only read one of the articles linked and it didn't talk about the rest of the bust. Hmm the fact that there was meth at the party and he just happened to find some in the cell is suspicious. I wonder what happened to everyone else busted at the party, if he was just one of many.
^Ugh, "hole"! Now you've got me doing it, and I buy ink by the barrel....
ReplyDeleteI'm not attacking the blog. I'm not a shill for some other gossip blog. As I hinted earlier, probably some "friend" of the blog has twigged who I am. Trying to shout me down is NOT going to work.
No seriously, quit feeding the troll.
ReplyDelete(sorry amy, Leelee, and enty too - but i am just sooo sick of this crap!): B. Profane - this is for you:
ReplyDeleteGood Lord I wish Enty could ban B. Profane! All Profane's done in every.single.post is find some way to either criticize or put down Enty, CDAN, or those of us on here. I have no issue with anyone expressing opinions, even dissenting ones, but there's a limit to it until you begin to just be an asshole. Kinda like now.
Dear Profane - did you ever think that maybe some of us come here to enjoy this site and maybe we choose to believe whatever we desire. But you? You have to chime in to make fun of us for following and believing in "the myth"?? Why? Because you crave for us to follow you and your mighty wisdom and enlightenment? Please tell us mighty profane - who should we believe in? What religion is best? Who should we vote for? Oh do please tell us how we can be just. like. you??! (Uggh...vomit!)
What is it to you what the hell I (or any of us) choose to believe? All you do is make it uncomfortable and annoying for us to try and enjoy this blog and to comment. With your holier-than-thou posts, your constant put downs of us, and then your know-it-all Encarta-wannabe-spouting bullshit like old faithful.
It's not cute. Not becoming, attractive, endearing, and certainly not funny. You seem to me like some smart-ass college student with rich parents who've told you all your life how smart/popular you are. And how everyone in this world is wrong but you, and it is your duty to correct them! Well sorry, you are not.
You think you're such a genius (with your legal expertise and political genius? really?). Then you brag about all your big-shot high level friends at big shot law firms? wtf? Who cares? Then you claim you had cohorts who were co-stars with you as an actor or in the biz? Yeah, sure.
Now you say you love CDAN and Enty? Yet you put Enty down (and us "sheep") in every single post. That's real love alright (eyerolls). If you think you are such hot shit - go start your own blog and see how many followers you get? No, that would be too honest. You'd rather just come here and try and piss us all off.
I also think you're posting under multiple names to try and validate your own conspiracies so you don't seem like the jackass that you are. You nitpick people's posts and their anon identities here, yet I don't see your legal name and contact info here? Or on your profile? Or even an email? Why not? If you are so pure, righteous, and better than us, me, Enty, Himm, LeeLee or anyone else? What do you have to hide then smartass?
Just please...either lay off the crap around here and stop putting down Enty, us, and everything else - nobody likes a downer. Or perhaps you'd be better off just lurking and putting us all down with your other genius friends over lattes and french poetry or whatever snobs do. Either way? We still like Enty, enjoy the site, and enjoy the freedom to believe whatever we desire without being made to feel like "morons" (according to you) for it.
Granted, I'm just a young woman under 40 with 3 college degrees working as a professional. And I'm blonde at that - hardly a match for someone as special as you. I don't know as much as many on here, but that doesn't mean I should be put down for my views or beliefs. Your views are welcome too (annoying as they are) just please stop shitting on us and Enty in every damn post!
Or you can go back to whatever blog you said you came from before and cry to them. I don't care. I'm just tired of you (and those like you) telling us all what idiots we are - and then trying to bully the blog for your own validation! Go start a cult, or join your school's debate team. Some of us just come here for fun, laughs, and entertainment and the occasional warmth or horror of hollywood. If I wanted some jackass to make me feel stupid each day I'd get married! (or go hang out at ivy league college bars).
Perfect!
DeleteLeeLee, yeah I was wondering the same thing. You know though, if they were so irresponsible to 'forget' someone for 5 days I suppose it stands to reason that they may be that negligent with meth. It just sounds fishy to me.
ReplyDeleteHere's the article where I saw the stuff about what they seized
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/DEA-Detainee-Found-White-Powdery-Substance-in-Cell-149596435.html
"During the raid, authorities confiscated ecstasy, marijuana, prescription medication, hallucinogenic mushrooms, and a white powdery substance that was described as a synthetic hallucinogen. They also seized numerous weapons including a Russian rifle, handguns and thousands of rounds of ammunition."
Huh, looks like I was wrong. There was no meth. Apologies on saying there was. :(
ReplyDeleteIt was a "a synthetic hallucinogen"
A+ Kim< A+
ReplyDeleteWow, "kim", you put a lot of effort into that. Funny how you seem to have the same poor punctuation as "LeeLee" when you're angry. Sadly for you, one of my dayjobs is complex-pattern textual analysis. Thus the reference to hermeneutics. You'll have to cover your tracks better than that.
ReplyDeleteC'mon, now, I have in the last 48 called out bull narrowly on a couple of things, but also offered up what dish I have in the cellar. Madonna has bad skin, and if Ingrid Casares has ever had a nose job, you couldn't tell from when she glared at me for hulking behind Madge. Deborah Bowen has a hot little tush, and Darryl Steinberg is actually a nice guy. And don't ask me about Jobs again because I've hinted about his past as much as I can.
Oh, right, I was going to throw this one out shut up the doubters: remember the massive scandal that was California electrical deregulation? Remember the rolling brownouts? Old drinking buddy of mine was intimately involved with that. Tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars in malfeasance. Actual deaths caused. Could get him on the phone right now, if I had to do so.
I could bust the anonymity of this blog so easily, by technical means if not resorting to legal/political connections. Stop pushing my buttons, I don't have that much patience. I'm being nice about this.
sigh... you fed it
ReplyDeleteI read the linked article. Just horrifying.
@kim called -- that was fucking AWESOME. Thank you.
ReplyDelete...Or I could just hack "Anotheramy"'s ID, TCP-backtrack it to find that she's posting to a gossip blog from "her" work computer and send the proof to "her" boss. Which would be a lot easier to do than "she" realizes.
ReplyDeleteBut I wouldn't do that.
B Profane -- no one cares if your best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who once filled out a writ of habeas corpus. That doesn't make you an expert. It makes you a wannabe; a poser. LMFAO.
ReplyDeleteB. Profane is a contrarian, not a troll.
ReplyDeleteI know it's hard sometimes, but you just gotta scroll and let it go , ladies. The internet is a safe place for all assholes. And B. Profane has had good points and has been funny in the past. I agree s/he can be a little blunt or mean, but it's usually on point.
A true troll is a person who insults or injects bedlam into a threads that is off-topic. And while I'm not as concerned as B. Profane is as to Enty's legal skills, I don't think it's wrong to question a blogger in his own comments. I've been coming here for years, and the writing has changed drastically. I miss the old style, so when someone else brings it up, that's not trolling to me. It's nostalgia.
Everyone should be required to use an avatar here, so we could learn who to scroll past, and keep our tempers better. There are a few pictures currently that I know to ignore, as I'm sure many, many of you have already scrolled past mine and will never read this. lol
Speaking of "RODNEY KING!"...
"Can't we all just get along?"
I just love everyone here though really. The best readers in gossip, by far!
ReplyDeleteI really mean it, it's become a ritual, reading here. And ALL the commenters make it great!
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In my 20 yrs in the prisons I was responsible for checking on the condition of all prisoners under my control. At times this was from 1000 prisoners to 5000. That was every day I worked. I had to visually see the prisoner and sign various papers to that effect. I can not see how any one can forget a prisoner. I know it has happened, but it is either the poor training or complete disregard for the rules (laws) that govern all places that hold, detain and imprison people.
ReplyDeleteAll places that are used to hold, detain and imprison people in the US have to have strict polices and procedure in place. These are in addition to rules or codes of conduct for those in charge. If, the DEA doesn't have these things in place then it is time for a Major Change.
In my years with the prisons I was witness to some "Questionable" things that happened, but this was about the FBI.
What libby said...
ReplyDelete(But if Darryl does run for governor, and you live in CA, you should really vote for him. And Sheila Kuehl may have been the last out lesbian to serve in the CA leg., but she ain't the last lesbian!)
I have read this blog for many years but have only commented a couple of times.
ReplyDeleteI feel I had to comment because I am sick and tired of B.Profane and his comments. You are an asshole. You bully and threaten other readers. What you wrote to Anotheramy is despicable.
I don't care what you think you know about Enty, the law or anything else. Piss off!
AND YET...a "magic mushroom" anti-anxiety treatment for dying cancer patients costs fucking $12,000.
ReplyDelete$12,000 for something we can find growing for FREE!
The whole drug policy is for the birds. (Actually, giant gov't entities like the DEA is who it's for...)
Read Leonard Pitts' recent Sunday papers column for some interesting stats--America is currently no more addicted than we were 100-some years ago.
It's pathetic.
@kim that was awesome!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMaybe b profane just needs some attention since all of his attorney exgirlfriends are exes.
B. Profane's "I know the law because I've got a friend" stories remind of a running joke in our family regarding my mom's legal expertise. Our theory is that my mom is a 'legal scholar' because she helped my dad study when he was in law school and she raised 2 children who became attorneys.
ReplyDeleteBecause I am a Cali family law attorney, I did take the troll bait and looked at the Perry/Brand disso settlement thread. B's assertion that s/he was correct about 'community property settlement practice' was incorrect. Actually, s/he made an astute observation regarding how an entertainer's income might be calculated. However, the calculations were irrelevant because Brand didn't want to press the issue.
It's funny how up in arms people get when you tell them the truth.
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Anywho. I was just coming to tell anita_mark that I saw this story on CP24 last night. But just on the ticker, not a story proper. All the coverage went to that sad sack, Mayor Ford. Gah! I don't like him!!!!!
The comments have totally taken over this article. Feel sorry for this kid, even if he was doing something wrong being forgotten about in a cell for 5 days is horrific.
ReplyDeleteAlso, being a paralegal I can personally attest to the fact that lawyers make spelling mistakes. And it does get a little old everytime you come to read the blog youve got all these posts about how this isnt the real Enty. Who cares! Geesh.
Apart from the "contrarian," there is a lot of awesome in this post. ♥ you guys, especially LeeLee.
ReplyDeleteLibby, I love that you used "I" statements. "I miss the old style of the blog" is not at all offensive to me. Stuff like "This blog sucks and Enty is a fraud," on the other hand... Similarly, "I wish you'd write less about these *#($&#! reality stars" doesn't bother me at all, but "No one wants to read about the Housewives!" gets my goat. I hate when people confuse their opinions with fact.
OMG this is so freaking funny. I am so delighted by this whole conversation! LeeLee you are a good sport and hilarious. I'm not a psychologist or a physician but I do read WebMD, sometimes at dinner, and I study psychology in my free time. I delve deeply into sofa side medicine during House, Mystery Diagnosis and Mystery ER. I'll be happy to diagnose anyone with either a personality disorder or a rare disease. Please send a graphic photo of any lesions or visible, physical abberations if you would like a diagnosis, gratis. If you need me to diagnose something in a psychological condition, please blog extensively above. I will get to you as soon as I can. B. Profane, I'm going to put you on my docket. But first I need to consult with mybest friend who has a PhD and two Master's Degrees in psychology/counseling. She lives too far away to eat breakfast near, but I'm going to ask her to grab a bagel and skype with me in the a.m.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I will, B. Profane. I'm calling 911 right now and asking them to send out a squad car to clean up this mess, don't you worry, my good man. I'm also making a bat signal out of a potato stamp and some Halloween floodlights. Help is on the way! Don't put down your thesaurus, fight the good fight until back up arrives. Sit tight!
ReplyDelete@CandiCanee- agreed! Some of the attorney's in my office are terrible spellers!!! And don't start me on some of their math skills...one has to use a calculator to add up her less than $200 worth of commuter vouchers every month...seriously. Ivy league education for BA, MBA and JD and can not add up $200.
ReplyDelete@Sue Ellen, NewsNet wouldn't shut up about him today, but they think the rest of the country cares. I have the news on all day and the interview with the reporter was played over and over again.
ReplyDeleteB - You are the definition of insufferable. And your overuse (or 'excessive utilization') of fancy words doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look like you're trying too hard. I also think you forget your various fake identities from one day to the next. I swear, if you are a person in the biz you must be Alec Baldwin.
ReplyDeleteTwo cents: I love this site and I love the comments but these readers have a habit of labeling one as a "troll" simply for having a contrarian pov. I know because its happened to me back during the old radio show debacle days. I think part of the fun is clever discourse as everyone on here is an excellent and clever commenter in their own way. I'm sure nobody cares what I have to say but I just had to chime in.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I was trying to defend B, but he makes it impossible. Notifying bosses???? Really???
ReplyDeleteB. Profane, DO IT. Call your CA ACLU friend, expose the site, lose your patience, expose our identities, call down your legal connections, do it. Do it. We're all waiting. What are YOU waiting for? Showcase your power. The entire media is exalting your opinions and the very legitimacy of CDAN hangs on your choice words and opinions. Why the news is riddled to references to B. Profane and his mighty crotch hold on ENTY. I found references to you and your valuable opinions and connections in... your own posts.
ReplyDeleteYou're a fraud. You're a pussy. You'll never be able to do any of the things you threaten. You've got nothing but anger and anonymity. Prove otherwise.
misspoppypants...lol.
ReplyDeleteThank you, commenters, especially LeeLee, kim called and misspopppypants, for making me snort from laughing so hard at the comment thread. Only on CDaN!
ReplyDeleteThis story is unbelievable. Mr. Chong has filed a $20 million dollar claim against the DEA. I say best of luck to him and his lawyers.
Poppy--bat signal, LOLOL
ReplyDelete@Boobs U, maybe B can call her boss from his work desk after he checks the timing of her posts as he religiously posts in response to her throughout the work day from 'his' own work computer without getting caught by his own boss for hacking into websites and sharing tidbits from his cellar (as long as you all will please God stop asking him about Jobs!) while on company time.
ReplyDelete@misspoppypants:
ReplyDeleteI had to delurk to say that you are made of awesome and sprinkled with awesome sauce.
Negative reinforcement is still reinforcement. Please don't feed the trolls, y'all!
B. Profane is a sophist, not a contrarian, which is still a sub-species of troll.
Oh man I would be so screwed if my boss knew how much company time I wasted on the internet. I live in fear of this everyday but not enough fear to get me to stop coming to this site. lol
ReplyDeleteYa know, I know quite a few public interest lawyers in L.A...I bet I could expose you pretty easily B Profane. Let's see how your "good friends" feel about you name dropping them on a gossip blog. On second thought, I have better things to do with my time. Like, anything that doesn't deal with you.
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