Apparently Madonna did not appreciate the photos of Lourdes smoking and has put Lourdes going on tour with Madonna on hold for now. Should Lourdes be smoking? No, but Madonna has done more in an afternoon to be ashamed of than Lourdes has done in her whole life. Obviously this is a do not do as I do thing. Anyway, Madonna has told Lourdes that she will not be able to go on tour with mom for awhile. Fine with Lourdes. More time for smoking and getting in trouble.
What do you expect when Madonna is her mother? I would expect smoking, drinking, drugs,and sleeping around because that's the sad example she's been given.
ReplyDeleteMadonna strikes me as an insufferable ice queen. I have doubts that being her kid is much of a buffer when it comes to mommy's affections. With so much staff and caretakers as there must be for those kids, they probably all go running for the nannies when they get upset or excited. Mom doesn't seem like she is very much present physically nor figuratively.
ReplyDeleteHopefully smoking is the worst of Lourdes' issues.
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ReplyDeleteMy bad thought was that Madonna was more concerned with the bad publicity than the fact that her daughter is smoking. I could be wrong, but her track record is making everything about her, even Michael Jackon's death.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's just easier to not deal with it because she's busy on tour. So, "the punishment" is not being allowed to go on tour with her.
ReplyDeleteHow is this punishment?
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Well Madonna totally changed my opinion of her now! Way to step up and properly discipline and protect your child, girl!
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If I found out my child was smoking I would do WHATEVER it took to stop it at once. The sooner the better, before it turned into a serious habit.
ReplyDeleteI'm not as upset by this as others are. I smoked Marlboro Gold cigarettes from age 14 to 22, and many of my peers smoked, too. So, considering I usually post as a Madonna hater, I'm going to give her a pass on this one. (However, naming her cd after club drugs and being generally skanky and soulless, I still hold that against her. And the fake accent. And more.)
ReplyDeleteOh teenage daughters of once wild or still wild women. Nothing quite like them to remind us of all the things we did but don't want them doing EVER! :) Mine are still better than I was at their ages so I count my blessings!
ReplyDeleteLourdes is a teenager and this is the kind of thing teens do.
ReplyDeleteThe snickering comes in when you realize that Ms. Contol-Freak & Rules With An Iron Fist now is confronting what she can neither control or rule, and not can she dismiss her because she can't.
@MadLyb. That's what I was thinking, too. At first I was thinking, "Wow, good for Madonna!," but then reality kicked in.
ReplyDeleteI think I'm about as sick of Madonna as I am of the Kardashians.
ReplyDeleteHow is this gonna help to have Lourdes on her own while Madonna tours. Doesn't make sense.
ReplyDeleteDontRain, this way Lourdes will be surrounded by the staff who parent her. That's the punishment, as opposed to being out on the town with a sixty-year-old who thinks she's 15.
ReplyDelete@Barton Fink - I didn't think of it that way & am slightly less snarky about my opinion.
ReplyDeleteWrong. So now, behind her mom's back, she can smoke all she wants. Wouldn't it be better for her to be WITH her mom?
ReplyDeleteLuckily, DixieTheNoble82, there is room for a wide range of snarkiness. Madonna for me is a symbol of diminishing returns. I loved her twenty years ago, and then whatever happened to her happened to her, and now whenever I see her name, I wish she were more graceful and less ... Baby Jane. Moving, I opened up a crate of things from the 90s and I found three copies of her SEX book, the metal-bound photography project she put out. I paged through it, loved the Brigette Bardot images. (She was smoking a lot in that book, I realize now.) I even have an unopened French version of the book, still in Mylar sheath, with the CD of "Erotic." I saw EVITA five times in the theater the week it came out, and I saw TRUTH OR DARE a dozen times in a theater in Northwest Portland. I loved her so much back then. Then that thing happened to her, and she turned into that thing she turned into. I cringe when I see her in leotards paying Brazilian children to have sex with her. The young Madonna seemed to have perspective and humor. Now, sorrow. Mine, though. And lots of snarkiness!
ReplyDelete@Barton, I used to live in NW. Actually, when that book came out, I was on 19th (or was it 17th?) & Glisan. You just reminded me of that apartment. It had roaches. Ah, memories...
ReplyDeleteSeeing how Madonna recently shouted out to hundreds at a Miami concert 'have you seen Molly?" (slang for ecstasy) Maybe this is Karma!
ReplyDeleteSeeing how Madonna recently shouted out to hundreds at a Miami concert 'have you seen Molly?" (slang for ecstasy) Maybe this is Karma!
ReplyDeleteHypocritical or not, Madonna is addressing the issue and doing something about it. And yeah, not going on tour would be a big punishment for a teen who is now missing out on another chance to see the world.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it is fair to judge Madonna's mothering style since we really don't know. Her kids are around her alot, so I don't think she relies on a staff as much as other celebrities. I don't think Madonna would make a very good friend, but I think she is probably a very good mother.
@Barton Fink - The way you describe how her 'downfall' has affected you is quite beautiful & sad. It sheds a different light on someone most people might see as an annoying, old, washed up hag.
ReplyDeleteBTW, anyone ever catch her response to Dead Ma5 re: the Molly comment? High-lariously full of shit.
It's amazing...she can't apologize or admit wrongdoing. I found her reasoning to be very condescending and full of it.
Delete@Barton nice post @Dixie can you post it?
ReplyDeleteThanks :)
@Katja https://twitter.com/#!/MadonnaMDNAday/status/184475399533764609
ReplyDelete@Barton Fink- I think you have summed it perfectly.
ReplyDeleteOh and you can't stop a 15 year old from smoking. I started at 15 and my parents grounded me restricted money to me, they tried everything. I still always found a way to smoke those bastards.
ReplyDeleteWhile I'm not a fan of Madonna, the one thing I do have to say for her is that she does seem to be a pretty good mother to her children. I think many people try cigarettes at Lourdes' age, so this isn't really that shocking. Compare Lourdes to Bobbi Kristina - granted she is a few years older, but somehow, I don't think we'll be seeing photos of Lourdes snorting cocaine. Also, don't forget, her father is also around and very present - just because Madonna is on tour doesn't mean she's going to be running wild.
ReplyDeleteParents tend to over-react in the opposite direction of the lives they led before they became parents. I bet Lourdes has been micro-managed since birth. Also, what options does Madonna have: You can't live in any of our mansions? I wont pay for your expensive education. The tour is one of her few bargaining chips. Having said that strict parents generally produce brilliant liars.
ReplyDeletebetter for the child to be away from this "parent". to me its a good idea. hopefully the nanny, or her dad, or guy ritchie, or SOMEBODY, will step in and tell her she can do better than this. i saw a video somewhere with madonna and lourdes going over designs. there was zero connection between the 2 of them. 2 totally different conversations. it was odd to watch it, and then see madonna afterwards talking about how well they worked "togther". madonna deals with the world the way she wants it to be rather than the way it is. a luxury of fame and fortune, but bad for raising children. if this "punishement" works, it won't be for the reasons madonna thinks, but if it works, who cares why.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is Lourdes will be staying with Carlos, who has always struck me as a stabilizing influence.
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ReplyDeleteLol do a GIS of "madonna smoking". Those pictures probably wallpaper their home.
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ReplyDeleteActually Madonna is said to be a strict mother, but it's hard to control a teenager and no one should know that better than Madonna she left home at 19 or so....
ReplyDeleteOMG Lourdes is a teen like the others
ReplyDeleteMy 17 year old son smokes. I hate it, but since he doesn't do it around me, there's not a lot I can do to stop it. I hope he'll smarten up and stop it soon.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately when your kids get into their late teens is when you realize how little control over them you actually have.
Madonna was an adult when she started her career. I don't know what she did before that, but anything she's done in the public eye has been as an adult. As an adult, it's okay for Madonna to smoke, drink, and have sex, and whatever else she wants to do.
ReplyDeleteLourdes is a teenager. It's perfectly appropriate for her mother to invoke some sort of discipline on her for her behavior.
Smoking is not a "bad girl" thing that should be punished, it's a "bad health" thing that should be stopped. If that's where Madonna is coming from then she's doing the right thing. She's the mom and this is her job no matter what her past has been.
ReplyDeleteIf all parents gave their kids a pass for doing stupid things because they did stupid things too, then all kids would be Cameron Douglas. Maybe there are some things about her own wild child existence that she regrets, why not do what she can to help her kids avoid them?
Im betting theres a lot more to this story
ReplyDeleteI think she is leaving Lola behind because she realized she may actuall have to parent her daughter instead of leaving her with nannies. also, it might cramp M's style on tour with her kid there as a back up dancer doing things back up dancers do on a M tour.
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lourdes is pretty but smoking will kill her
Excuse me, but I would be pissed if one of my kids started smoking! As another poster stated, it's a health issue. I've never smoked and neither has my husband, but I've heard from many ex-smokers about how hard it is to quit. I would do everything in my power to get my kid to quit if I were Vadge.
ReplyDeleteAlso, who is Lola/Lourdes hanging out with? Rarely do kids just start smoking without some peer pressure. Smokers hang out with other smokers, so who started Lola smoking?
Madonna just doesn't want to share the spotlight with her daughter. She is not being motherly by removing her daughter from her tour, she is being petty and selfish. It just so happens that the result of her pettiness is probably better off for the child.
ReplyDelete@Dixie thanks for the link. That comment was so full of crap I feel dirty!
ReplyDeleteThere were a few years that smoking stopped being cool with the kids.
ReplyDeleteI hate that the so-called hipsters made it cool again. That and PBR.
Expermenting with tobacco is almost a rite of passage for most pre teens and teens. Not s huge deal
ReplyDeleteIf that's all she ever gets publicly flogged for, smoking a cigarette, then she will be lucky indeed. I appreciate the dangers of smoking, but it's not like she was hitting a crack pipe.
ReplyDeleteMadonna has a right to discipline her daughter for smoking. She's only 15! Many parents would justifiably be upset and take action to stop this unhealthy habit. Who cares if a lot of kids try it a young age? It's still illegal, unhealthy and she's still a teenager. Maybe she will be staying with her dad while she tours.
ReplyDelete@Barton Fink...omg, your "Baby Jane" comment NAILED it!! hahaha
ReplyDeleteShouldn't Lourdes be in school? Seems like school would take priority to watching her mother lip synch every night.
ReplyDeleteshe is the parent. if her child is heading down the wrong path, she shouldn't be leaving the home to go work and entrust her daughter's care to someone else. she needs to be a mother here.
ReplyDeleteMadonna did a good? Good for her. For a family in entertainment, this was the perfect punishment for her daughter. Hope it works and she sees how important it is not to smoke.
ReplyDeleteI know this is a couple of days late, but Barton fink, you just about nailed it on every comment. Thanks for expressing my words better than I ever can on here. And my late teen son smokes and it kill me and I have done everything possible to make him stop including showing up at his coffee house hangout and breaking his cigs in pieces in front of his friends! I can only hope he figures it out...
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