Donald Trump has one rule when it comes to any contestant who has a chance to be Miss Universe. He needs to want to have sex with them. I always thought if Donald was horny enough he would have sex with anything, but apparently he draws the line at transgenders. Jenna Talackova was a Miss Universe Canada finalist and then someone found out she was born a man and she was kicked out of the competition. She is a woman now, but The Donald does not go for that kind of thing so Jenna was kicked out. The rules say you have to be born a woman. The Donald is old fashioned like that. Perfectly fine to saw a tail off an elephant, but if you were born with a peen he wants no part of you in his competition.
Well, rules are rules like it or not.
ReplyDeleteMiss America has the same rule and that is not run by Trump.
I still can't get over the rug on his head.
ReplyDeleteI imagine most female beauty competitions would have this rule, it's not out of line Donald or no Donald.
ReplyDeleteTwo things....
ReplyDelete#1 Rules state contestant must be born female. She may be female now, but she was not technically born one.
#2 Jenna answered the above question as "yes", which is not the actual truth...so she lied on her application.
All they need to do is change the rules, but as it stands now she doesn't really have a case.
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ReplyDeleteShe is beautiful.
ReplyDelete^ Agreed.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not the rules of this pageant are fair/discriminatory, they are the rules. If the requirement is that contestants are born women then in my opinion, all contestants should be born women. I think the same should apply if the situation was reversed in a transgendered pageant. If the requirement is that you are transgendered from male to female it would be wrong for someone who was born female to enter the contest.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I couldn't care less if she participated but unless something is a fundamental right (job, schooling etc.), I think inclusion should be able to be defined by the person creating the contest. I might not agree with the rules but I certainly don't think I should be able to enter a contest/group and bend the rules/qualifications to fit me, which is why I am not a Mensa member! lol :)
Rules be rules yo
ReplyDeleteShe had weird legs, they are skinny, gangly guy legs.
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ReplyDeleteShe looks more like a woman than I do!!
ReplyDeleteShe's beautiful!
She was born a woman. That's why she has now gone through so much to have her body match who she has always been. I'm so tired of ignorance, intolerance and a lack of compassion resting on "rules are rules" or "laws are laws.". Rules and laws aren't immutable but the pain we cause others from imposing them for no other reason than prejudice is permanent.
ReplyDeleteEven though he's an ass, it's his game so I guess he can make the rules. If she doesn't like it, I'm sure she could win other competitions.
ReplyDelete"She was born a woman. That's why she has now gone through so much to have her body match who she has always been. I'm so tired of ignorance, intolerance and a lack of compassion resting on "rules are rules" or "laws are laws.". Rules and laws aren't immutable but the pain we cause others from imposing them for no other reason than prejudice is permanent."
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU!
I'm sorry but how is anyone being caused pain by not being allowed to participate in a beauty pageant?? I don't see anyone rioting in the streets over the fact that there is a weight limit in these pageants. Are women who are plus sized being caused pain? I would in no way, shape, or form qualify to participate in those pageants and guess what, I'm okay!
ReplyDeleteReal discrimination against transgendered men or women or anyone else is wrong. Not qualifying for a beauty pageant because of the physical sex you were born in doesn't really seem like the end of the world. Maybe we should focus on real issues affecting the LGBT community rather than jumping all over one case that can be applied to many other groups who are excluded. Just my opinion though.
What Gladys said!!
ReplyDeleteSegregation was a rule(law)once - that didn't make it right
Oy - I hate to take Trump's side, but I agree. Rules are rules. And as a Canadian I would love to see her win, but again - rules are rules.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, Trump did disagree with the whole hunting issue so that was kind of a low blow.
Dang, I feel so dirty now. Have to go shower.
Thank you GladysKravitz !!
ReplyDeleteTechnically, it's his pageant and he can run it the way he sees fit; however, feeling it necessary to include the whole "born biologically female" bit strikes me as very mean-spirited, for all the reasons Gladys mentioned. It also strikes me as terribly ironic that Trump finds himself on the same page as a lot of the women who run the Michigan Womyn's Festival every summer--forgive me if I'm not completely up-to-date or aware of everything involving the festival, but I do know that there's been a LOT of fighting over the past few years about only allowing "womyn-born womyn" in (supposedly those not born biologically female are going to be "abusing their male privilege" all over the place...um, hello? They might have been born male, but they're choosing to live as women, which could be construed as a giving up of privilege...oy. SMH Trump and radical lesbians on the same side--who'da thunk it?
ReplyDeleteWow, she's really convincing.
ReplyDeleteI just find it very bizarre that anyone would even think to make the rule "Must be born female." That wouldn't even cross my mind if I was supposed to draw up rules for a beauty pageant. Huh.
ReplyDeleteJenna is really pretty.
Do people still even watch beauty pageants? I used to watch them just for the cheese factor, but honestly they're so watered-down now they aren't even cheesy anymore. They are just plain boring. I have no reason to watch them nowadays.
I think she is really pretty, but I don't think she should be able to compete with the rules being what they are now. Maybe after this they will change, maybe not. Life is hard and you can't always do what you want. This is a pageant for people who were born with female anatomy. Just because not everyone is included doesn't mean we should start waving the discrimination flag.
ReplyDeleteomg, that's Second Beach in Vancouver, no? I used to walk there a lot. I never looked that good, though.
ReplyDeleteI love you, Gladys.
ReplyDelete"Rules are rules" - yeah, and Trump decides what the rules are. It's not like he couldn't change them in a minute if he wanted to. All he'd have to do is say "this rule is ignorant and outdated, and it should be abolished."
I'll join the chorus in the love for Gladys!
ReplyDeleteLike Jaded said, segregation was also once a law. And so was not letting women vote. If people just let the laws be run how they were unquestioningly (like some of you seem cool to let Trump do) then many of us wouldnt be in the place we are today.
I think that letting women vote and letting this lady enter a beauty pageant are two very different things. The issue here is a technicality, not oppression.
ReplyDeleteJust to clarify, I am a supporter of transgender rights. I just think that this isn't the particular instance to get up in arms over. Do I think this woman should be allowed to enter the pageant? Absolutely. I just don't think the intent here is to discriminate againt this woman and I feel like when such broad strokes are painted that it muddies the waters for real discrimination with real intent.
ReplyDeleteOMG! Nobody can be friggin "born a woman" I was born a girl/female. Womanhood comes with maturing and menstruating PUBERTY. This person can NOT be born a "WOMAN". All you people with your skewed logic. Remember the Caster Semenya situation winning the olympics as a faux female? That was not fair to the natural born females for sure. I mean no disrespect to the transgender folk but saying she was born a "woman" if outlandish and wrong in my opinion. Go ahead and hate on my opinion but that is mine.
ReplyDeleteREALLY??
ReplyDeleteTo me, he looks extremely manly and not fem at all.
I think it's the legs. I'm sorry, but I've never seen legs like this on a woman. Not even supermodel cindy crawford types.
I'm not drinking the koolaid, sorry. There is something odd about him/her.
"HARD"
ReplyDeleteShe looks like a prettier,more natural Alexis Bellino from O.C. Houdewives.
ReplyDeleteJenna looks so weird. How could they have mistaken her for a girl? A few years ago I went to Barcelona on business. At night prostitutes would gather along the main touristy blvd of Las Ramblas. There was a transvestite/transgender prostitute who looked about 6'3" with heels. Jenna reminds me of that person - something about the legs.
ReplyDeleteGLADYS, YOU RULE!
ReplyDeleteAnd for those of you that are discussing how "convincing" this woman is, or wonder how she coould have been "mistake for a girl" please understand that she is a transgendered person, not a transvestite. She is not tucking a penis or anything, her body is female. She IS a girl.
Sorry, but she wasn't born a woman. She was born a guy, and even though he wanted to be a woman, that didn't make him a woman until he did something about it.
ReplyDeleteIt's as if I were to say I was born a Christian, even though both my parents were Jewish and I was raised Jewish. I was Jewish until I converted to Christianity.
Additionally, a pageant is akin to professional sports. It celebrates natural beauty, the type you were born with, just as sports measures natural athletic ability. Transgender surgery is the equivalent of taking steroids to artificially enhancing your performance.
Transgenders should have equal rights under the law. However, that does not mean they have the right to participate in a natural beauty contest, or that they can say they were born one thing when they weren't.
terrible pose. Ugh.
ReplyDeleteWonder what would happen if a woman entered a transgender beauty contest. Think they'd be all love and light and inclusion about that? (FYI: that's a rhetorical question.)
ReplyDeletefacepalm x 1000000 at these comments.
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