I don't support either. Most rehabs are money making machines and prescribe the same type of routine--physical and mental, for the majority of their patients. They do a lot of group therapy, confrontation, physical fitness, outtings, games--all with the same type of person who is craving and wanting the same vice you do. Smoking is common too.
If you want to break addition or find some piece, get out of your norm. Do something for others---build a school in Ecuador, walk The Camino, camp out in your local state park for a few weeks, stay in someone else's healthy home for a while and get used being in a different normal where drugs and alcohol are not used as part of the day.
If you are truly an addict & want to be sober - rehab will work better than Prison. Prison life is horrendous & most come out worse than when they went in.
I agree with everyone - rehab only works if the person is ready, and prison works for those that have remorse for what they did.
Prison doesn't work for addicts because, in most cases, they can find a way to get high in prison. Prison guards get their street cred by smuggling shit in for the inmates.
I've tried both as a teenager...they work for awhile. I've never been to "real jail" but I did a ton of time as a teenager being locked up, also rehab for a whole year during that time. Cured of my cocaine addiction for 8 years, but I went back to it eventually.
I personally think it's a shame to send an addict, someone who is sick, to prison. Now if they committed an additional crime (such as stealing), then they do belong in prison.
Maybe someone could start a rehab prison. No criminals allowed, just addicts, but they're locked up in solitary confinement unless they are attending classes to beat addiction.
It seems as if too many addicts end up in jail because they can't beat their demons. But incarceration is also EXPENSIVE, and I truly believe it should be saved for society's dregs -- rapists, murderers, et al.
Even if someone like Lohan *were* tossed in the pokey instead of the Cirque Lodge, it wouldn't do her any good unless she somehow managed to end her urge to self-medicate with the bad stuff.
I honestly don't think there's any comparison between prison and rehab. Ideally, one situation is a punishment, and the other is voluntary.
Jesus .. where to start with this one. Well .. I guess first .. what is the problem??
Is it lawless behavior or is it lawless behavior based on an addiction? What is the charge? I mean .. shoplifting, theft is one thing .. murder another. Is there even law breaking behavior, of course other than the taking of an illegal drug?
I think rehab works - real rehab .. not the bullshit people who specialize in taking care of the likes of Demi Moore and Lindsay Lohan .. because it has worked for people close to me. I can highly recommend Hazelden. They realize there is something broken inside that needs to be fixed and that is why people usually resort to addiction. Other places that are churn and burn for your insurance dollars .. I have no time for them.
I think jail is a waste of time for true addicts because it just further breaks what was already broken. But again. it depends on the charges involved. Being a hopelessly broken junkie with horrific abuse in you background doesn't preclude your culpability in murder or manslaughter.
As I think I might have said recently .. the older I get the more I see nothing is black and white .. there are a million shades of grey. It is just how deep the grey is when it comes to addiction and the bad choices made due to it.
You're asking for an OPINION on this? Seriously? Why do you think an opinion from anyone other than people who've done both would be valid? It doesn't appear people here have done both (or either), thank cow.
Neither will work unless you WANT it to work.
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ReplyDeleteI don't support either. Most rehabs are money making machines and prescribe the same type of routine--physical and mental, for the majority of their patients. They do a lot of group therapy, confrontation, physical fitness, outtings, games--all with the same type of person who is craving and wanting the same vice you do. Smoking is common too.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to break addition or find some piece, get out of your norm. Do something for others---build a school in Ecuador, walk The Camino, camp out in your local state park for a few weeks, stay in someone else's healthy home for a while and get used being in a different normal where drugs and alcohol are not used as part of the day.
Depends if you're a criminal or an addict.
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For those that say you can't afford to take off, then you can't afford rehab either. Insurance does not cover it. 30 days can cost upwards of $25K.
I agree with Cindy and Pogue Mahone.
ReplyDeleteAnd I agree with Reese, who agrees with them.
ReplyDeleteIf you are truly an addict & want to be sober - rehab will work better than Prison. Prison life is horrendous & most come out worse than when they went in.
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ReplyDeletePrison. Unfiltered reality.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone - rehab only works if the person is ready, and prison works for those that have remorse for what they did.
ReplyDeletePrison doesn't work for addicts because, in most cases, they can find a way to get high in prison. Prison guards get their street cred by smuggling shit in for the inmates.
there is a super high recitivism rate for prison, and many come out with stronger or new addictions.
ReplyDeletePrison. Case in point: Robert Downey Jr.
ReplyDeletewhy do they have to be mutually exclusive??
ReplyDeleteI've tried both as a teenager...they work for awhile. I've never been to "real jail" but I did a ton of time as a teenager being locked up, also rehab for a whole year during that time. Cured of my cocaine addiction for 8 years, but I went back to it eventually.
ReplyDeleteI personally think it's a shame to send an addict, someone who is sick, to prison. Now if they committed an additional crime (such as stealing), then they do belong in prison.
ReplyDeleteNothing is going to work until the person wants something to work. Then either will work.
ReplyDeleteI don't like the idea of prison for victimless crimes, very few are rehabbed in prison and many end up worse than they were when they went in.
Except Lindsay Lohan. I would love to see her do hard time.
Most people don't have a choice and dry out in prison.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Syko. All of it!
ReplyDeleteProbably depends on the person.
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone could start a rehab prison. No criminals allowed, just addicts, but they're locked up in solitary confinement unless they are attending classes to beat addiction.
ReplyDelete^That IS rehab.
ReplyDeleteIt seems as if too many addicts end up in jail because they can't beat their demons. But incarceration is also EXPENSIVE, and I truly believe it should be saved for society's dregs -- rapists, murderers, et al.
ReplyDeleteEven if someone like Lohan *were* tossed in the pokey instead of the Cirque Lodge, it wouldn't do her any good unless she somehow managed to end her urge to self-medicate with the bad stuff.
I honestly don't think there's any comparison between prison and rehab. Ideally, one situation is a punishment, and the other is voluntary.
Agree w/ Cindy.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely depends on the person & what they've done.
Jesus .. where to start with this one. Well .. I guess first .. what is the problem??
ReplyDeleteIs it lawless behavior or is it lawless behavior based on an addiction? What is the charge? I mean .. shoplifting, theft is one thing .. murder another. Is there even law breaking behavior, of course other than the taking of an illegal drug?
I think rehab works - real rehab .. not the bullshit people who specialize in taking care of the likes of Demi Moore and Lindsay Lohan .. because it has worked for people close to me. I can highly recommend Hazelden. They realize there is something broken inside that needs to be fixed and that is why people usually resort to addiction. Other places that are churn and burn for your insurance dollars .. I have no time for them.
I think jail is a waste of time for true addicts because it just further breaks what was already broken. But again. it depends on the charges involved. Being a hopelessly broken junkie with horrific abuse in you background doesn't preclude your culpability in murder or manslaughter.
As I think I might have said recently .. the older I get the more I see nothing is black and white .. there are a million shades of grey. It is just how deep the grey is when it comes to addiction and the bad choices made due to it.
You're asking for an OPINION on this? Seriously? Why do you think an opinion from anyone other than people who've done both would be valid? It doesn't appear people here have done both (or either), thank cow.
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