You know what? I think if my dad was Ryan O'Neal and he put me through the kind of crap he put Tatum O'Neal through, I think I would probably escape with drugs and booze too. I can't even imagine the horrific memories she has growing up. When your own dad wants you to have a threesome with him and Melanie Griffith and you are a teen you know there was crazier stuff going on. Sure, everyone says he just wanted her to watch, but if you are going to have your kid watch, you know what he really wanted. I can't believe Melanie Griffith did not say anything either. It is probably why she buried herself in drugs and booze too. Anyway, Tatum is back on coke and checked herself into rehab. With Griffin in jail,Redmond also in rehab, and his long time girlfriend dead, Ryan has pretty much ruined the life of everyone he has ever come into contact with.
I could give two shits about Lindsay Lohan but Tatum O'Neal has always been tragic and sad to me.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Laura. What a sad story her life has been. I don't know what it would take for her or her brothers to get their lives straight, but I hope they find it someday.
ReplyDeleteI would say she should avoid doing reality shows with her dad though.
Come on Tatum, you can do this, girl.
ReplyDeleteTatum you're made of stronger stuff, you can do it.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what happened to the other boy Ryan had with Leigh Taylor Young ?
It would take Ryan finally dropping dead. Some people just can't move on until the person fucking with them is finally, truly gone.
ReplyDeleteNiiiiiccccce pic there, Tatum. I hope you get well, if that is even remotely possible.
ReplyDeleteThis makes me sad. I was pulling for her. I know that ultimately she's responsible for her own sobriety but F you Ryan.
ReplyDeleteThe child he had with Taylor-Young, the child he had the least to do with, is fine. Quel surprise! I too am team Tatum, get well!
ReplyDeleteLaura - ITA. Sad :(
ReplyDeleteMisch, I didn't know there was another child.
I also didn't know about this threesome thing. Ryan? Ewww.
it seems as soon as Tatum gets back in the limelight she can't resist all the dark temptations that comes along with fame.
ReplyDeleteI think Melanie is just as much a victim in the whole thing as Tatum. They were teenagers being used by older disgusting men in power.
I haven't liked him since he made that movie with Drew Barrymore and Shelley Long. Shelley came back later and said he got a little to rough in the fight scene in the pool and I want to say she said he scared Drew who was just a kid at the time. Irreconcilable Differences. You just know he helped Drew on her early road of drugs, etc.
ReplyDeletePatrick O'Neal the only son not to be raised by Ryan. Mother is Leigh Taylor Young. She took Patrick and ran for her life, and God bless her heart for putting her child before fame, acting and protecting him from Ryan's abuses.
ReplyDeleteHe was married to Rebecca DeMorany from 1995-2002 they had 2 daughters and by all accounts lives a healthy normal life. A life without his father and the drama.
I do wonder if he has any relationship with his 1/2 brothers and sisters. He seems like he could have a positive affect on them.
according to imdb.com he is a sportscaster in LA and did some acting work in the last few years.
If she killed Ryan in cold blood with 20 witnesses and it was on videotape and I were on the jury, I'd still find her innocent. That's how much I hate Ryan for what he's done to her.
ReplyDeleteShe seems hardcore kind of like Mackenzie Phillips. There will be periods of sobriety punctuating their long subastance abuse spiral downward. It's incredibly sad to see. I wish her the best in trying to recover but she just has that hardcore look about her. I doubt she will ever completely beat it. I sure hope I am wrong about that.
ReplyDeleteHer mother was a HUGE drunk ... HUGE. Tatum hung with her in her final years when tatum was a teenager.
ReplyDeleteJust because you had a (totally) shit childhood does not give you a pass to be an idiot. This is precisely what addicts try to lean on to explain away their douchey behavior. I went to rehab very young and you bet your sweet ass I owned up to my own shit. Only I can control how I react to something. Same with her. There are many many many many many people in this world with worse lives that aren't doing blow and favors for hotel rooms (ahem, I'm looking at YOU, LL).
ReplyDeleteMany people cannot control themselves. Genetic brain disease is no joke and it cannot be cured. Cleckley was the first to raise the flag and try to get society to recognize this and do something about it.
ReplyDeleteHere we are almost 100 years later and little is done with society starting to collapse under the burden of corporate fraud, addictions, and still a variety of bad breeding.
**steps off soapbox**
I think she worked on her recovery when he married John mcEnroe and having the kids helped but she slipped and Los that too. Sad
ReplyDeleteHer book broke my heart. I am also rooting for her.
ReplyDeleteI'm just glad she went to rehab instead of another trip to the tattoo parlor.
ReplyDeleteYes, Ryan is an ass x 10, but I don't think their Mother, Joanna, helped the situation either.
Tatum's book was heartbreaking.
I wish her the best in her road to recovery. I totally agree with Mother Campfire - at some point you have to take responsibility for your life and can't blame it all on a shitty childhood, etc. Sadly, many addicts use it as an excuse to continue on the path of self-destruction (and I speak from experience).
ReplyDeleteI too agree with Mother Campfire. She might have to put herself in a position where she cannot access drugs. I think people who cannot handle fame, like her and Britney and LL, would be best off fleeing from it. She should take whatever money she has and go somewhere with little access to drugs, like...I dunno, a remote island?
ReplyDeleteThat said, what a shame that that fucktard Ryan is still alive and doing relatively well. :-(
ReplyDeleteBigMama - I remember reading some years ago that the set of Irreconcilable Differences was the set that gave Drew the most access to booze. She was basically drunk all the time during the making of that movie.
ReplyDeleteI do agree that at some point as an addict who wants to recover, you have to take responsibility for your destructive behavior but, I can only imagine what it's like to have to live with some of the disgusting memories that Tatum's father gave her. You can't constantly blame it on the bad childhood but things like that are difficult to reconcile and overcome.
I believe Tatum's issues are equal parts nature and nurture, as others have basically stated. I also think that she's very talented and has a heart of gold and I'm rooting for her. I've read both of her books and watched the show and girlfriend definitely has the strength to get back on the path, and I pray that she does.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I'm stupid, but I think there comes a point when you have to stop blaming others for your messed-up life and fix what you can (your life, not theirs). Remember her mom abandoned her, too. Ryan is messed up, for sure, but Tatum needs to get on with fixing her problems and not relying on Ryan to grow up. Because he never will. It was so painful watching that show they did because she kept expecting him to rise to the occasion and then was devastated when he didn't, because he's incapable of doing so.
ReplyDeleteI'd just like to point out drug and alcohol abuse so young can really fuck with brain chemistry. That's not to say you can't overcome it, but it seems to me Tatum has more than just the emotional fallout to deal with.
ReplyDeleteI hope she makes it.
There's a Simpson episode where the family is watching Love Story and Homer and Marge are getting irritated that Bart and Lisa won't shut up and watch it and Lisa blurts out (and I'm paraphrasing so forgive any errors), "She's wooden and at the end of the day, he's still Ryan O'Neal." Always makes me laugh.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but her blaming everything on her dad and how he's the root of all of her troubles is Tired. Well then will she be the root of her kids troubles? (Her kids couldn't even live with her till they reached 18 b/c of her addictions. And the baby even found a dirty needle.) Jeez. At some point you need to take responsibility for yourself. And this chick clearly has not ever. I watched their show on OWN and my God woman, grow up, let it GOOOOOO. How old are you, if you haven;t gone over all the sh*t ryan's done by now and felt and filtered it, you need a new and better therapist.
ReplyDeleteYou see, she'll always have a "problem" being sober unless she looks at herself and sees what her responsibility lies in all of this. Enough with blaming Ryan. Ryan is her excuse. B/c as long as she came blame him, she harbors no responsibility. And again, that is why she never changes. So there.
I know. because I've been there done that.
sober since 99
I wish her well.
ReplyDeleteOmama - congratulations!
ReplyDeleteTatum said her daddy is a savior (in her biography or an interview)because her mummy was crazy and a violent abuser and finally she only lived with him.I remember also that Ursula Andress wrote Ryan O'Neal was a hippie
ReplyDeleteAt a moment,you need to stop to blame the others ,to take responsability on your addictions and to go ahead
I agree 100% with OMAMA!
ReplyDeleteI too have been sober since '99. 11/11/99 to be exact...
A rep for Tatum O'Neal has 'corrected' the story:
ReplyDelete"Tatum O'Neal has had back issues, had back surgery and went to a place that could supervise her use of prescribed painkillers until the pain had subsided. She will always seek supervision when taking prescription medication that has addictive potential."
I am totally in her corner. Her books have been an attempt at catharsis; to rid herself of the demons she's had to deal with in growing up.
ReplyDeleteI agree that as adults, we have to take responsibility for our actions at some point and stop blaming others. But this girl is different - She seems to be an old soul who's never had a chance to grow up under normal circumstances; i.e. your garden variety dysfunctional childhood, like the rest of us had.
If you read her bio or stories, her mother was terrible drunk and Tatum became "the parent" at 7 or 8 years old, taking care of herself and her brother Patrick. I read somewhere that once, she suffered a broken her arm but because her mother was too drunk to get her to a doctor/hospital, the kid set/wrapped her arm on her own. Apparently, Ryan showed up on a rare visit, saw the arm (disfigured, apparently) and THAT is when he took over and assumed custody. She felt he had indeed rescued her, as another poster pointed out. But ... somehow that relationship morphed into something so insidious. Seriously, how F'd up is it for your father to want you to participate in a threesome with some other addict. Terrible.
I'll give this girl all the breaks in the world because she tries, and fails, and seems to be HONEST about her struggles. THAT is what sets her apart from these other H'wood tartlets. If Tatum was out doin' the scene, hitting the clubs, and the talk show circuit, etc. that would be one thing - but her only exposure, other than her books, has been that docu-reality show w/ her dad, therapist, etc. My heart broke for her; she was so raw and open with her emotions. Love her, and wish her the very best ...
Okay ... gingerly stepping off my soapbox now...
Very happy for all the CDANers who have beat their addictions and continue to be sober. Congrats and stick with it.
ReplyDeleteI have never been to rehab but definitely had a "wake-up call" moment that changed my life going forward nearly 10 years ago... unfortunately I have also had friends who were not lucky enough to go to rehab or have wake-up calls because they died from their drug abuse (the flood of hardcore prescription opiates hit at exactly the time my friends and I were having fun).
I agree with commenters who say that you have to take responsibility for yourself and your ongoing behavior. I think part of that is also forgiving yourself to an extent because I think guilt can be a key factor when people "spiral". However I agree most with the one commenter who mentioned that heavy drug use in such a young person who's brain chemistry is not fully developed can alter the course of their lives forever and science doesn't even understand all the ways in which that happens yet. Legal drugs like antidepressants or illegal. So not to say she's blameless at all, but saying that her situation is not the same as most people's.
Either way here's hoping she can beat her demons.