Beyonce gave "birth" yesterday to a baby girl who is named Ivy Blue Carter. Apparently the number four is significant in the lives of Beyonce and Jay but they decided that calling a child Four Blue was pretty much forcing them into the profession of bingo calling. They also decided that naming a child IV Blue would be cute, but would end up being a lot like the Oneders. So, they threw on a y and named their kid after a creep crawly plant. Have you ever noticed how Jessica Simpson has gone from everyone wondering about a bump to watching it get larger and larger and larger and larger and larger and larger and larger and larger before our very eyes while Beyonce went from showing off a tiny bump on national television to a moving bump on national television to sticking her belly out once on a beach to try and get everyone to be quiet to never really having much of a bump to birth. Allegedly Beyonce gave birth via c-section so if she is up and running around in heels tomorrow that would probably be a sign that she did not give "birth."
Really don't care how they did it, or what they did. Good for them. And the name could have been MUCH worse, so meh at that too.
ReplyDeleteI just don't get why they didn't just have a baby the natural way. Its not like they needed more attention or anything.
ReplyDeleteWonder what her medical reason was for a C-section??
ReplyDeleteWas it a scheduled c? Don't many celebrities schedule a c so that they can get some plastic surgery thrown in there, too?
ReplyDeleteThere are many reasons you could end up having a c section, so who knows?!?
I thought her due date was in February, so I hope all are healthy.
Celebrities don't need a medical reason for a c-section, they do it on a whim. Remember Britney having c-sections because she didn't want to have labor pains?
ReplyDeleteI think c-sections certainly have a place, but to choose that over v-birth on a whim is ridiculous. Vaginal birth is better for the baby and the mother, and no major abdominal surgery for the mom to recover from. All that aside, it's hard to give birth to a pillow, so a c-section was probably necessary.
Not nuts about the name but it could easily have been more cutesy. The name gets a "meh" from me as well.
I was being sarcastic :D
ReplyDeleteAlthough I know it's not as easy to get a C section here, if you're paying privately you have a chance but going public, not a hope!
There's no way she could conceal not delivering a child but pretending to in a major hospital. HIPAA aside, people talk. It would be impossible to conceal a fake birth in that setting.
ReplyDeleteAs a woman that has had a c-section (and an athlete) I wasn't cleared to do more than walk 2-4 blocks for 6 weeks and then I was only allowed to run 1 mile 3 days a week and nothing more.
ReplyDeleteIf she's up and at the Grammys in 3 weeks then you know she didn't birth no baby. Walking around with stitches in your abdomen is bad enough, but walking the red carpet, sitting in one of those chairs and then partying until 2am is impossible.
And for the record you don't need a medical reason for a C-section but my guess is their people will claim the baby was breech
ReplyDeleteGwyneth Paltrow confirmed the name is actually Blue Ivy Carter not Ivy Blue.
ReplyDeleteClose to Elijah Blue, Chaz' half-brother's name. The name? Could be worse. And it's none of my business what another woman chooses to do or not do with her body. The lying and the deliberate hiding of the truth are what I judge.
ReplyDelete@Jennifer, where I live you do, and again I was being sarcastic.
ReplyDeleteBlue Ivy Carter? Jesus the name sounds like a dodgy nightclub, "You coming down the Blue Ivy tonight???"
so future wheel of fortune answer: bear blue ivy.
ReplyDeletewill be interesting to see these 2 "parent".
Blu Cantrell anyone???
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like a bad stripper nam "now taking the center stage is Bluuuuuue Ivy!"
ReplyDeletewell this kid is going to have an interesting life to say the least.
ReplyDeleteI'm 11 weeks pregnant and i am absolutely dreading giving birth. It just seems so messy, gross and fowl to me. Not to mention babies in my family are huge. My downstairs parts will never be the same. Some women dont want to push enormous babies out of their vaginas. Why is that so hard to understand? I just hope i can convince my OB to give me a C section.
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ReplyDeleteAnybody here ever seen "The Cooler," where Alec Baldwin, helps deliver Estella Warren's bouncing baby pillow? I imagine the delivery room scene was something like that.
ReplyDelete@ Ashlea: Like Kim Z. said on RHOA:"It's like pushin' a Mack truck outta your hoo-haw!"
Dodgy nightclub? Yes. Stripper? Yes, again.
Ashlea, if you think giving birth is gross, I wish you luck changing diapers, wiping up puke and, well, just parenting in general ;)
ReplyDeleteAt first I thought you were talking about an "adult" entertainer or celebrity sex scandal.
ReplyDeleteOMG one of the huge myths is that a C-section is the easier way to go. A C-Section surgery means the mother is in pain and pretty much incapacitated for weeks and weeks afterward, unlike with V-labor. Please.
ReplyDeleteAshlea, your body knows what to do. You'll be fine. Maybe talk to someone about your fears.
ReplyDeleteAnd forgive me, but I giggled a little bit at "fowl" -- it might be, if you're giving birth to a chicken. Imagine the feathers!
Ashlea I'm 12 weeks pregnant myself and would hate to have a C section, it's a major op. My preferences are a natural birth with epi if I have to>Ventous>C-Section>forceps.
ReplyDeleteNone of our family babies have been less then 8lbs, my nephew was 9.9lbs and my cousins were 10 and 11lbs. I just feel that whatever size my baby is, I made it so I should be able to have a V birth, once (touch wood) nothing majorly goes wrong.
I think One born every minute has terrified the life out of me when it comes to C-sections!
Ashlea, Jac, Syko, etc.
ReplyDeleteAbout 20 years ago and before, women could have C-sections on demand. The whole "medical necessity" issue for C-sections only happened when insurance companies decided they didn't want to pay for them anymore, and so OB/GYNs had to tell their patients they couldn't have one without a medical indication.
Syko, I respect your opinion, but the fact of the matter is, a planned and controlled C-section is in fact very safe for both mother and baby. The LEAST safe environment for mother and baby is a crash C-section, that is, when the mother labored, something goes wrong, and they have to perform Cesarean emergently. I can certainly understand a woman choosing a C-section (see Ashlea who is dreading vaginal delivery).
I think it's bullshit that insurance companies have put women in the position of having no choice in the matter of how they deliver their babies. If men had childbearing responsibilities, I guarantee you every option would be available with no questions asked, including professional hand-holding.
Thank you Jac, someone had to say it. Oh, and a month early. How did she have her baby before Duff? Hell, how did she have it before Simpson? As thirsty for attention as she is, if she were really preg she would've pulled a Demi. Then of course she would've claimed to be the first preg woman to pose nude. I just can't stand this hack trick or her camel.
ReplyDeleteYou're my boy Blue!
ReplyDeleteIf anyone has Old School, then they can appreciate that.
Giving birth is the most rewarding experience of your life. If you are desperate for a c section i think your making the wrong decision. Labor is rough but its worth it in the end.
ReplyDelete*I was ref to Jac's Blu Cantrell comment. She was with Jay before(?) he dated Beyawnce.
ReplyDeleteIvy Blue is much better IMO...
ReplyDeleteShe's named after the dog on Blue's Clues?
ReplyDeleteDefinitely sounds like a nightclub or lounge. In fact, the name reminds me of a line from Home Alone 2 when Kevin watches the fake gangster movie: "You was here last night, too, wasn't ya?" I was singin' at the Blue Monkey last night" "You was here....and you was smooching with my brother!"
ReplyDeleteCould easily have been: "I was singing at the Blue Ivy last night."
Can't we just allow women to give birth whatever way they want without judging them or thinking them less a woman.
ReplyDeleteGawker said it's a scheduled C-section. TO each their own I guess. V birth is the way to go if, I said IF, it works out - as said C-section is considered major surgery and takes at least a month to get back on your feet like before.
ReplyDeleteAsh - doncha worry, I am very slender with almost no hips and I was very worried because my son was huge. He did me a favor and arrived just over 2 weeks early, so he was just over 7.5 lbs whereas he would have been over 9 if he had come to term! Trust me, your body knows what to do. And if you end up needing a c-section, that's OK too.
Dumbest thing Enty ever posted.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of whether she gave birth, one way or the other, this question of whether she was actually pregnant is going to follow her for the rest of her career.
ReplyDeleteI have no children so I can't speak from experience. But I do think that any woman should be able to choose how to deliver her child, be it c-section, natural birth, with epidural, whatever. It seems amazing to me that some women snark at other for their choices in this respect. If a man did this, he would be castigated. Why is it ok for us to judge each other so harshly?
ReplyDeleteI wasn't saying c-sections aren't safe. They are safe. I said that vaginal birth is preferable for both the mother and the baby. And I don't buy the insurance companies causing the prevalence of c-sections. Whatever other evils insurance companies foist upon us - and they are plentiful, I agree - c-sections keep you in the hospital longer and require a surgery room instead of a birthing room. More expense, so less profit for the fucking insurance company.
ReplyDeleteFunny how we think of pioneers as being so rugged. When I was born, my mom was in the hospital 10 days and rode home in an ambulance. When I had my kids, the usual stay was 5 days, although you could generally talk the doctor into releasing you after 4. Now it's almost giving birth, standing up and going home. One more generation, and we'll be back in the fields, squatting at the edge to deliver our children, then going back into the field to work with the new baby slung on our backs.
My workmate gave birth naturally in the morning and was home with her new son by lunchtime. In the UK it appears to be 'pop the baby out, wait 4 hours, if no complications, send them home'. As for Beyonce, totally think she faked it and I agree with Ivy Blue sounding better that Blue Ivy - it makes me think of Poison Ivy.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought when I heard this name was...
ReplyDeleteAt least now we know what the color of the pillow case was!
Hahaha
Also, Blue Ivy is not as awesome as Ivy Blue, fact.
LOL Syko! Word
ReplyDeleteEveryone's body Is different. I have had three c-sections and was up and out within a week.
ReplyDeleteI think it's kind of cute that she rocked the pillow thing for awhile. They have enough money between them to buy as many children as they need. She wanted us to believe that they went the old fashion route. I'm cool with that. That child will have it all. They can adopt me if they want!
ReplyDeleteI only have one child, and I gave birth naturally. If I had a c-section, I would have always wondered what the birthing experience would have been like. It wasn't fun, but it wasn't horrible, either. It was an experience that I'm happy I had.
ReplyDeleteIf we see the scar, we'll know she actually had a baby, right?
That's not a good name. I agree with everyone who said it sounds like a club or a bar. Yikes.
Blue Ivy does sound like a restaurant, doesn't it? Oh, well, welcome to the world, kiddo, whoever actually gave birth to you, and good luck--you're going to need it!
ReplyDeleteI watched my sister go through a C-section. She was numb and shaking on the operating table and could not hold her baby when it was born. She spent over a month barely being able to walk because a few of her staples got infected. Can you imagine having infection staples in your stomach while you try to stand up? She moved in with us for 2 months so we could take care of her baby because she couldnt do anything.
ReplyDeleteFast forward 6 years, I have a baby and the labor is so fast I don't even have time for an epidural. 10 minutes after the baby is born, I felt like I could run up the steps of the empire state building. ZERO pain or discomfort.
Give me a vag birth ANYDAY.
@Strawberrygirl - I do!! Love it:-D
ReplyDeleteWell, we can (and do) judge people based on the choices they make in life. Unfair? Perhaps, but very normal. I have had friends who planned c-sections because they didn't want to go through the agony of natural birth, only to discover c-sec we way, way worse and more painful. So i think you need to have all the information and really think about the options. If you can have it, a v birth is just so much better for you and the baby.
ReplyDeletePardon my use of "fowl" instead of "foul". Poop, pee, throw up and any other bodily fluids do not affect me. I'm a nurse, im used to cleaning up messes and patching people up.
ReplyDeleteAs far as everyone elses suggestions i appreciate them. For the women who give birth vaginally, congrats. Good for you. I just think its bullshit that i have no other options on how to bring my child into this world besides vaginally unless something goes wrong. Plus i get 4 weeks off of work after my baby is born if i push it out my hoohah? My friends in England got 9 months. Americas health system is a joke as is government and state policy on maternity time off.
Can't we just allow women to give birth whatever way they want without judging them or thinking them less a woman.
ReplyDeleteAmen.
Why is it ok for us to judge each other so harshly?
If women would stop putting each other down and use that energy for important things, we might *gasp* actually achieve something in our fight for equality, but who really wants that, right?!
I don't like the Beyoncé star persona. She doesn't seem to be a nice person and don't get me started on Jay-Z, but, believe it or not, there are women who are barren and can't conceive. Maybe, it's not always about keeping your figure and some women think it's shameful to not be able to bare children. Imagine you're a r&b world star and your image is all about your womanhood and sexiness and then you have to tell the whole world that you can't have a child and need a surrogate. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that, either and would also try to act the shit out of my pillow baby belly.
We've all seen it with Sarah Jessica Parker and how the media was hunting down her surrogate.
Just playing devil's advocate here. It might not always be a matter of vanity.
All I can think of is Blue Iris, the senior porn star who was a regular on Howard Stern's show,
ReplyDeleteMina i appreciate your insight and you are right. Poor SJPs surrogate was relentlessly pursued by paps. Maybe (while deceitful) Beyonce made the right choice for her and her family.
ReplyDeleteYeah Ashlea the US system is bizarre, I will have 6 months off paid, and then I can add on my holiday days and the public holiday days, plus I have parental days I can take, all in all I'll be finished work in July and not back till about March/April, depending on if I take some unpaid leave too.
ReplyDeleteThe insurance issue in regards to c-sections doesn't apply where I live, everyone gets free maternity care here. I could go private and pay €3,000 for it, and then I have to pay for scans on top of that and the only perk is I would have a dedicated consultant, once they weren't on holidays when I went into labour, oh and I'd have a tiny change of a private room. Going public I can use a midwife led system, all my appt.s are in a clinic 5 mins from my house, I will attend the hosp. for the same scans a private patient would pay for. After I deliver I will be in a room with 3-5 other women, and I can go home early on the scheme I'm on, 24 hours after I deliver.
In fairness Maternity leave and care is one of the only things they seem to do right in this country..:D
I had a version - that's turning a breech baby around - when I was 8 months pregnant with my third baby. I didn't want to have major surgery and then go home and take care of two little kids and a newborn. So I had the version, and she stayed head down.
ReplyDeleteNo one's saying not to have a c-section, but a normal birth was better for both of us. No complications, no episiotomy, and I was home just over 24 hours after she was born. (Maybe I'm nuts, but I cringe at the thought of unnecessary long hospital stays. Get me back home ASAP!)
Ash - I completely agree with you. Having to go back to work after two or four weeks is just so ridic! Women (and men) need to get used to this new member of their family and I am so happy that we have paid maternity/paternity leave.
ReplyDeleteI have just had friends chose C-sections cause they were scared, only to realize too late that they actually picked the harder, less safe option. Friends who have done both always recommend V-birth, every single one.
Ugh never elaborated on c-section insurance issue! Most people here will go public whether they have private insurance or not, the care is just as good, so Ins would have no bearing on the c-sections here, again it's very very very rare to be allowed an elective c-section here. Even when private patients request them, their Dr's will have to basically give a medical reason too.
ReplyDeleteOh and public wise I have to pay €75 a night I stay in hosp, up to a max of €750, and if there is complications at all in public care you get the exact same doctors, care and procedures as you do in private.
My god, c-sections are not that doom and gloom. Jeebus people. No matter how you deliver it always comes down to the doctor, hospital, and how well you've prepared mentally. NO matter how you deliver if you don't do your research and questions and go in mentally prepare its going to be a lOng ass road to recovery. I was up and walking, albeit rather slowly, within 10 hours.
ReplyDeleteWhen I studied this, all evidence pointed to V-birth (if possible) being healthier for both baby and mother. That might have changed in the last five years, but I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteI've had 3 c-sections here in the uk but thats because my first was an emergency. When I fell pregnant the second time I was told it was safer to have another section same with the third. If I'd had a choice I would've liked to have tried natural since I was in agony with my stitches plus my back has never been the same since they couldn't find a good spot for my epidurals. With the kinda clothes beyonce wears we'll see a scar if she really did give birth. If she truly did give birth I hope she takes all the rest she can get cos she's gonna need it especially in the long run
ReplyDeleteI really can't wait to see if she shows her face at the Grammys now!
ReplyDeleteI would have preferred natural, but had to have C-section after being in labor all day and not dilating enough. A scheduled C-section doesn't necessarily mean it's what the mom wants to do, but perhaps there is a medical problem and mom and Dr. decided C-section was safer. Like, doesn't a mom with herpes have to have a C-section or else the baby could potentially contract the herpes as well? Not saying Beyonce has herpes. Hell, I'm not even saying she actually birthed that baby. Also, years and years ago doctors actually preferred C-section because there's sometimes less trauma to the baby and less malpractice lawsuits.
ReplyDeleteLinnea, research definitively shows that V birth may be somewhat safer for mom, but less safe for the baby. A baby who gets stuck in the birth canal or has to be delivered with forceps is far more vulnerable than one delivered by c section. Mortality rates for babies are much higher with vaginal birth. Even the risk of cutting the baby during the c section is practically nil, since they would be nicked but not sliced. Being 21 months pregnant, I could go vbac - it would be safer for me, sure, but if anyone's going to be in danger in that hospital, I want it to be me not my baby. But, maybe that's just the mom in me. There's a part of me who would like to have a vaginal birth this time around just to prove that I can - but, that's a really bad reason to do it, since I already know I have a narrow birth canal and babies with ginormous heads. Why risk her life to prove to myself and others that I can do what everyone else seems to think is a can't-miss experience? Bringing home a healthy baby is the experience I care about.
ReplyDeleteI haven't given birth, but I have had a laproscopy to burn off my endometriosis in 2010, then a vaginal hysterctomy in 2011 because burning didn't work and the pain was getting worse. I couldn't believe the difference. I have pushed to get back to the gym and into my normal routine, but just having that bit of my body removed knocked me about, I also bled for 4 weeks post-op, which is normal. I have healed beautifully and it is 8 weeks since the op now. Just wanted to write that so those contemplating surgery know that it can be a bit harder to come back from, but not impossible. I think a woman has the right to choose, and fear of a vaginal birth is a legitimate reason to have a c-section. A mother's mental state has a great bearing on the outcome of the birth.
ReplyDeleteHere in Denmark - state-sponsored health care, folks - I had to beg for a C-section, and that was after more than 2 days of labor for a baby that was 14 days overdue. The docs simply would not do it. Finally they gave in, but they wrote on my medical forms "Ceaseran AT PATIENT REQUEST."
ReplyDeleteIt's not just insurance companies. It's just general prejudice towards a "natural birth."
I was terrified about going into labor because my grandmother would tell me horror stories about the pain woman had to endure.
ReplyDeleteI ended up having a C-section due to complications during labor.
No woman should feel pressured to go without pain meds or a choice in delivery, you should do what's best for you and your baby.
A vaginal delivery will have you back in your feet in no time, a C-section sucks, sorry I really can't sugar coat that for anyone, it's major surgery and requires extra recovery time that could be better spent bonding with your baby without feeling so crummy.
In Canada (not sure if it's federal or provincial) but parental leave is a year. The couple can decide how they want to split the time. That is the gist of it, I know there are 8,000,000 other circumstances to come into play.
ReplyDeleteI had a friend who prepared for a home birth. Had mid-wives, a doula (sp?) and all, baby was breach and after 24 hours of labour, had to be rushed to the hospital and had an emergency C-section.
My mom is a tiny woman and had both my brother and me as C-section because her hips weren't wide enough.
I've known other women that had no complications and were home that night or the next day.
Our bodies are different. We can plan all we want but sometimes the worst case scenario comes into play. Is my mom or friend lesser women because of the C-section? Am I a lesser woman because I haven't had/nor will have children? No.
We can argue all day about what is better, what we did, what friends did, etc. but it comes down to each body is different.
Women get judged for how they give birth, they get crucified for not breast-feeding... it's ridiculous. A friend left a pregnancy forum because of the hardcore mombies who insist on all natural birth and bully anyone who doesn't agree.
Nutty_Flavor - its the same here in Sweden. Women who want C-sections have to fight for it for 9 months. I know 2 women who misscarried in their 44th week b/cause their doctors would not do a C-section. I was lucky - I got both mine and I was up and running within a week after both and the scars are practically invisible. Definitely recommend it!!
ReplyDeleteThat said, it's still surgery and not an "easy" way out. Going to the bathroom afterwards was absolute horror, as was physically getting out of bed the first couple of days. But -I prefer that to getting sewn all the way across you know where, like a friend of mine.
Years ago there was a comedian, I can't even remember if it was male or female, who said that men don't need to do a thing to oppress women, they do such a fine job doing it to each other.
ReplyDeleteAs for Beyonce, I don't know if she really gave birth or not, I don't care, but I am very curious why it appears that so many people on the interwebs (not necessarily on this blog) seem to be so emotionally invested in this child of a stranger. It's kind of fascinating to me.
Love the many snarky comments but my fave has to be Syko's: All that aside, it's hard to give birth to a pillow, so a c-section was probably necessary.
ReplyDeletewell i have 3 kids. all v- births. the last one was NOT GOOD. every birth is different, so while i was at the mall a few days after #1 & #2, with #3 i could barely walk for weeks, and was in pain for months. did not have full sensation back for almost a year.
ReplyDeletehaving said that,labor is good for the baby. http://pregnancy.about.com/cs/laborbirth/a/aa042300a.htm
BitterBlondin,
ReplyDeleteYou described exactly how I felt getting up that first time.
To make matters worse I breast fed my son and in my new mommy paranoia I decided to stop taking the pain meds because I didn't want to the baby to ingest any through my milk, so it was rough for me the first week, but it all worked out fine.
To all the pregnant ladies here, whatever you do will be fine, we can all share our stories with you but in the end do what you think is best and don't let others make you feel like less of a woman because of your choices.
Idiot watcher - are you sure about that? I remember learning that elective C-sections had so many risks for the baby, much more so than V-births. Looking around the internet, I also came across several studies that showed that same thing (including accidental surgical cuts, respiratory problems, failure to establish breastfeeding, and asthma in childhood and adulthood) . Do you have any sources that prove that? I am not trying to put you on the spot, I am really just curious because I have *never* read anywhere that a c-section would be better for the baby.
ReplyDeleteLike this, for example:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.medicineonline.com/news/12/6008/High-infant-mortality-seen-with-elective-c-section.html
"The risk of death in the first 28 days of life was 1.77 per 1,000 live births among women who had c-sections, compared to 0.62 per 1,000 for women who delivered vaginally. Even after analyzing the various causes of infant death, the researchers could find no clear2 explanation for the difference.
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ReplyDeletetouche' -"if we see her up and running in heels...." I had a c-section for the last kid, and man, I couldn't walk OR ride in a car for a month!!! It 'twas a nightmare.
ReplyDeletethat said, I'm slow b/c it took me a min to figure out the ivy ref. IV -stupid.
As far as C-section scars, aren't they usually horizontal, in the area just under the belly fold and above the public area? I seem to recall that, if possible, that's the way they tend to do them, so the scars can be hidden even in a bikini. (In some of Britney's crotch shots that made the rounds a few years back, you can definitely see her scars.) If that's the case, then unless Bey decides to pull a full monty (yeah, and monkeys are gonna fly outta my ass...), I don't think we'll be seeing any scars she might have!
ReplyDeleteFirst, LOL at "All that aside, it's hard to give birth to a pillow, so a c-section was probably necessary." Ahah, Syko, that cracked me up.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter is 8 and I have to say after reading these comments I got a few flashbacks to when I was becoming a new mom. I do not miss the judgmental crap surrounding the birth, diapering and then feeding of babies. Let me tell you something funny...remember how important it felt that you chose a natural birth, and how important it felt to breast feed? By the time they are 8 it doesn't matter. I was in my daughter's classroom a week ago and I couldnt tell the breastfed babies from the vaginal birthed babies from the cloth diaper babies. They all become *kids*. But when you become a new mom, for some reason, other mothers feel the need to push their beliefs on you. Yeah, don't sweat it, trust me, it wont matter in 8 years...actually sooner than that.
Haha, yeah, they all turn out the same in the end... snotty little trouble makers... :)
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry if someone felt as though I was judging them or pushing them. It was not my intention at all. Live and let live, I say, just know what your options are and what they mean!
That said, I don't doubt that Bey gave birth to a pillow either...:)
Ashlea - congratulations on your pregnancy! I hope you have a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby, however he/she enters the world!
ReplyDeleteBy the time I had my son, I felt I didn't care how he came as I was so ready to give birth (and he was 3 weeks early). Afterwards, I was grateful to deliver vaginally and it is an experience I will treasure. However, that is the experience I wanted to begin with. To each their own.
I had a friend pregnant with twins who delivered the first one vaginally one evening, and the second one with a c-section the next morning. Yikes!
I'm sure a whole bunch of people will try to get a copy of Blue Ivy's birth certificate so we will all know if they have enough money to bribe people for the forgery.
A healthy mommy and baby is all all that matters. As msfairydust said, they are all just kids as soon as they are out.
ReplyDeleteThe one statement i take issue with is "my downstairs parts will never be the same" after a vaginal delivery. That is just not true. My vagina is as fabulous as ever. In fact i got crazy with the kegels (due to the fear of this urban myth) and now can perform even more interesting and unique muscle movements :) I'll leave that to your imagination ;)
I will admit all bodies, vaginas, deliveries etc are different and my v delivery was rapid so maybe i just got lucky. However, vaginas are designed like rubber bands to snap back into shape after delivery :) yay evolution/ creator, whatev, good plan :)
Now that we went there.... I gotta ask you, some people claim that their sex life is sooo much better after a v-birth (not the following day obv, but after a while)
ReplyDeleteTrue or urban legend?
I think all of the "she's faking it" stories were dumb as hell, but that's just me. And who cares whether she had a c-section or delivered naturally? It's her body, her baby, and HER CHOICE. She's oibviously got the money to do it however she damn well pleases. I guess next time she should consult everyone else for permission on how she should give birth so that she can avoid so many people on their soapboxes denouncing her for a Caesarian.
ReplyDeleteI loce CDAN, but sometimes the mob mentality and lack of logic demonstrated by commenters makes this place just as teeth-grindingly annoying as TMZ or Celebitchy. Seriously guys, it doesn't affect you personally, it isn't that deep, let it go.
I wish all the best to Bey, Jay, and Ivy.
I don't believe Beyonce had a baby either. I thought they were lying on the month just to have privacy but seeing the pillow fold, how she looks. No way is she pregnant. She should've been big like Jessica. She also hasn't dropped. Mostly everyone drops before they give birth. Those pictures of her that came out a couple of days ago, her belly was very high.
ReplyDeleteMy 2 child were born naturally and after have 3 surgeries for fibroids I would not have a c-section if I didn't have to. You can't even get up after being cut. After a vaginal birth you can after a couple of hours. My 1st birth I was in labor for 27 hrs total and I'm thinking--please just cut me but the dr wouldn't. Nowadays though it is much easier to get a c-section even though it's major surgery.
I guess we will see what happens in the next month with B and the baby. Someone will pay to have them on their cover and her story.
Does anyone know anything about the surrogate? Was this her egg and his sperm?
1 more thing, I remember reading after b sister had her baby, she even said she was traumatized by seeing the baby born and she was in no way ready to have a baby and go through that. I wish someone would find that interview.
Linnea - i would say it depends on the couple and the delivery/complications etc.
ReplyDeleteI don't think having a v birth flips some orgasm switch but it may bind people or it may be kegels.
I think it is a possibility but not a guarantee. Make sense?
For me, having to sneak is like being a teenager again which adds fun and the kegels proved to be awesome. I can now perform more varied muscle feats so, the myth proved true.
On the flip side we have kids and are exhausted and grumpy and cranky and tired so sometimes sex is the last thing we have energy for even though i am always in the
mood (could be that too but i think that is a 30s thing).
Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors.........you ain't kidding! I had a "crash"c section(twins) and the had to knock me out completely bc I almost died! Th anesthesiologist gave me the spinal too high, and paralyzed my lungs....it was horrible! I would never, ever choose a c- section.....6 weeks of terrible recovery.............Ash lea , I would definitely talk to someone about your fears......you do Not want a voluntary section......
ReplyDeleteOh yeah......and, my dogs name is Blu.....boxer/mastiff....just sayin.......
ReplyDeleteI have to comment about c-sections in the U.S.-the numbers are SOARING! They were called "emergency c-sections" for a reason. A c-section, BESIDES being major surgery, scars the uterus. If you are only going to have one kid--fine--get an elected c-section. Just make sure you have all the information about the higher rates of hysterectomies and problems for the child afterwards.
ReplyDeleteI had to fight for a vaginal birth! I was a fat, older mother with twins, so my original doctor wanted to schedule me for a c-section, but I fired her and did my research. I got a midwife, found a doctor who believed in natural birth (quite hard to do these days)and my labor was less than five hours. It was not too bad.
Our sex life is fine. I didn't tear, and my husband is not complaining.
As far as choices go, I can understand that, BUT if the mother choosing an elective c-section thinking about how labor will affect her, then I wonder if that said mother really should be having a kid. I know it is an unpopular opinion to have, but I've seen so much selfishness in this area that I have to state it. I know a woman who scheduled her c-section around her legal career.
Maybe the surrogate went into premature labor or she was farther along than they thought.
ReplyDeleteEither way I refuse to believe this bitch gave birth.
Oh I forgot to mention, Bewolf and the Camel were smart to have the kid in NYC, birth certificates are PRIVATE. If they had the kid in California, it would have been public.
ReplyDeleteBeowulf and the Camel?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNailed it!!!
Atia not all babies drop low before labour my first didn't that's why I had the emergency section. There's an old wives tail that low babies are boys and high babies are girls. It is it the other way round? I can't remember hehe
ReplyDeleteI had a scheduled c-section because my daughter was breech. I cried when they told me I needed it, but honestly- I was OK. I walked a mile my second day home (granted it took me an hour). I have to say, I enjoyed the 5 days in the hospital. I felt so good, I asked the doctor to let me out early. He was willing, but asked me why when I had round the clock help and answers to my questions - which was very useful when I was trying to breastfeed. I think its a crime to throw women out of the hospital within 48 hours after giving birth... but that's another story.
ReplyDeleteAdding my 2 cents:
ReplyDeleteI had planned on having a natural birth with my son. Unfortunately I ended up with HELLP syndrome which meant 27 hours of induced labour, an epidural that didn't take, and a cervix that stopped dilating at 9 1/2 cm for 10 hours. In addition, my son has a GINORMOUS skull, and I simply would have been unable to push him out. So, after 28 odd hours, a c-section ended up being the only option to ensure the survival of both my son and myself.
Was it incredibly disappointing that my son was born at 830p and I didn't actually get to see him until NOON THE NEXT DAY? Yes. Did I hurt like a mofo after? Hells yeah. Am I disappointed that I didn't have a chance to experience a natural child birth? ...kinda (labour seriously suuuuuuuuuucked!) Would I do it again and have the same result, which is a happy, healthy (and almost into the terrible twos *eyetwitch*) little boy? Damn right I would - and I'm thankful that I have the option.
Coming in late, but have y'all noticed how only once (in photos) did she ever hold her belly as if there were a baby there. Moms always are holding or rubbing there bellies. She didn't touch her belly. Afraid something would fall out??????
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ReplyDeleteI forgot to mention that doctors can be downright scary! My first obgyn made my hubby's hair turn white with all of her moaning about my weight, blood pressure, age, etc. I ended up taking him home with an anxiety attack.
ReplyDeleteThis whole thread has made me sick to my stomach.
ReplyDeleteITA w/ above posters that Bey's "baby" didn't drop over the last week; she didn't look ready to pop. Guess it could have been an emergency C-section, though nothing about the story suggests there was "medical risk", much less an "emergency".
ReplyDeleteDon't understand fan/media complaints about the scrutiny, though; she made it very public herself on an awards show. IOW, it had damned well better be real.
Hopefully she won't lose her pillow weight too quick or it will totally blow her chance at that Jennie Craig or Nutrasystem money.
ReplyDeleteBeyonce didn't have no biographical baby! and besides that the baby's name Yvi Eulb spelled backwards is lucipher's daughter in Latin!
ReplyDeleteyes I said biographical because that's what someone told me on twitter. and yes I know lucifer IS Latin and daughter in Latin is filius, but still.. it's what someone told me on twitter. So I believe it! so there!
lolol iCant
Who was it that predicted the 7th? You get a cookie!
ReplyDeleteIn South Africa, planned c-sections are pretty standard. In the US most celebrities have them as well. They like complete control over everything.
Who really cares how the kid gets there as long as it gets there healthy. Everyone is different and the opinions (and supporters) run the gamut from home water births with candles burning and soft music playing (where some women claim to orgasm, check youtube its all there) to women who wouldn't dream of dealing with pain and blood God forbid they poop while theyre pushing.
While Im on a rant, breast feeding is nice but if you cant or dont want to, no worries.
PS I had natural births to large babies and breastfed each for a year
when Beyonce sang "I done got so sick and filthy with benjis I can't spend" in her song Diva.. it's EXACTLY what she meant. LOL All the gurls (Jenny n 'em) have been TRYING to contact Beyonce to represent them and she has NEVER responded.
ReplyDeleteSo stick to the c-section because she's really not pregnant farce y'all been pushing.
LOL! fat people irk me.
I had a C/S in the evening and was walking the next morning. I really wish women weren't so judgmental. And it does continue on after the child is born.
ReplyDeleteRita wins! She predicted the 7th.
ReplyDeleteI'm a nurse in the neonatal intensive care unit and before worked in L&d as a surgical technician and wanted to add my two cents.
ReplyDeleteC-sections are not ideal, but they are better than losing a baby or a mother through a traumatic delivery. That said I always laugh to myself when I have a patient talking about not wanting to deal with the pain of vaginal birth. Sure some women recover quickly, but most c section patients have a longer recovery time. And just because you are sore doesn't mean you get out of walking, it's medical practice to get surgical patients up and walking within 12 hrs post surgery, including maternity patients.
You know what is bad for babies? Scheduling a c/section for a date prior to 38 weeks gestation. Due dates are a best guest and can be off give or take a week or two. That's a big deal when it comes to newborns! It's really hard when a parent is looking at their baby in the NICU and feeling guilty for electively delivering early only to watch the baby struggle to breathe and eat.
So be nice to each other, don't judge delivery styles and for your baby's sake try to make it to at least 38 weeks.
The Herp is the biggest reason for a C-Section. and we all know Jay-Z has it, has Beyonce of the magic pregnancy caught it...sure she has...but I still think the surrogate had the C-Section...
ReplyDeleteOh and the dog down the hall is named Blue...
Beyonce can make it to the Grammys even if she did indeed have a C-section. I had to have an emergency hysterectomy last summer on Monday, was out of bed walking that evening, shopping and walking right after I got out of the hospital on Tuesday morning, and dancing a bit on Friday. Lots of people are not incapacitated by gynecological surgery.
ReplyDeleteGranted, a C-section has more healing to do, since you're keeping that pesky uterus, but if Beyonce goes to the Grammys, it's not like she's taking the subway or walking 6 miles to get there.
Just read The Daily Beast, Jay-Z & Beyonce rented the entire 4th floor of Lennox Hill Hospital for privacy, she used an alias for the delivery room "Ingrid Jackson"
ReplyDeleteSecurity cameras were covered, no cell phones...
Staff was limited access ....do I think Beyonce was pregnant...no way....these are extreme measures even for the famous...
Jebus! I'm 27 weeks along and YOU LADIES ARE SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF ME!!!
ReplyDeleteTearing my vag up sounds exactly as awful as cutting into my belly, there is good and bad about both of those methods, I'm hoping to be doped up enough to not feel too much, and also that I can be sewn up night and toight afterwards. Mostly I just hope to have a healthy, happy baby. Some of you are very supportive, some of you are way too judgmental, but I feel the need to call only one person out:
@Henriette - how dare you tell me I shouldn't be having a kid because I'm afraid of the physical aspects of
labour? I'm a human being and I'm allowed to worry about how it will affect me, my body, and my life. It's easy for you to stand on a soapbox; it's behind you. Have a bit of compassion, try to remember what it was like when you didn't know, you were full of fears and anxieties, making huge life changes all the while being subjected to 100 conflicting opinions daily as to what you should or shouldn't do. Preparing to become a mom is scary, for many reasons. Don't tell me I don't deserve my child. I suggest you check out STFU Parents if you need further examples of how being a mother does not give you the right to tell other women that they shouldn't have their child. That is all.
Oh, and I live in Toronto, I'm eligible for up to 50 weeks maternity leave, and I can choose to split it with my fiancee. Pfffffft - fat chance.
How long was she "pregnant"... ridiculous. lost a lot respect for her.
ReplyDeleteHOLY SHIT!!! I DO WIN!!!
ReplyDeleteI've opted out of all things internet for 24 hours. And look what happened!
Thanks Sue!
@Principessa
ReplyDeleteAs I stated in my post, I'm in the U.S. where c-section rates are SKY ROCKETING. Doctors here are pushing them on women without much information. Since you do not live in the U.S., it will not affect you. Ever seen Ricki Lake's documentary The Business of Being Born?
I also NEVER directed my post at you. I don't know you nor do I know your situation. I DO KNOW people who think a baby should be scheduled around a golf game! I will speak out about that type of behavior.
I was relating MY experience with birth in the U.S.
guys....adopted kids have their adopted parents on bc, not birth parents. So the same would remain true for surrogets. Also, NY state is notorious for not unsealing "original" bc. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteAlmost anyone can have an elective c-section these days. It's not difficult.
ReplyDeleteBewulf is saying she had a "natural birth" now. I guess she's been reading the boards about this and wants to perform at the Grammys.
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of hormones running through this post. And so many comments! Geez. I don't get the feeling that anyone was attacking anyone in particular, but DAMN, mamas can be judgmental and self-defensive...
ReplyDeleteEven though nobody asked me...the women I know who had C-sections didn't exactly regret them, because they did end up with healthy babies after the fact. But the women who delivered their children vaginally had better and less traumatic birth experiences to relate later on. That's all I know.
And for what it's worth, isn't breast feeding better because it's, um, cheaper? To put a crass spin on it: if you've got the milk to spare, then why buy the cow elsewhere?
Anyway, there are many circumstances in which a Caesarian is necessary, so it seems really crappy to judge the women who have no choice but to face the scalpel in the delivery room. What happens when you're a 5'1", hipless woman carrying a 10-pound kid who's liable to rip you wide open?
The ONLY thing that terrifies me when it comes to childbirth is an episiotomy. Fuck. A. Bunch. Of. That. THAT'S what makes me want to adopt whenever I get the urge to procreate. If I ever want them, I'll get them walking, talking, and already toilet-trained.
@tango -- Thanks for your wise insight. I appreciated your words.
Oh, and Beyonce was totally NOT pregnant. Look at Hilary Duff and Jessica Simpson -- both of whom have that telltale (enormous) glow right now. Even Gwyneth was full-figured and radiant when she was preggers. Beyonce was just puffy and her cankles expanded. Nothing that a little prednisone won't cause. ;-)
Realize that my comment came off as *really* defensive, so sorry about that. I'm sensitive to the bad wrap that C-sections get because I've gotten some grief for having one even though mine was an emergency one and I could have lost my son if they didn't call it when they did.
ReplyDeleteEven though I don't believe Beyonce was actually pregnant, I will say that some women don't "show" pregnancy that much in their face/feet/hands. I'm about 20lbs overweight normally, but didn't look pregnant (except for my belly) anywhere else. I'd have people walk behind me in the city & wonder why I was walking so slow until they got up beside me and saw my giant belly (I had more than a couple double-takes). My sister tells me that I'll make up for it in my 2nd pregnancy & totally show everywhere though (such sisterly love). :-P
Oh and where can I get a hospital stay for 5 days after a C-section? I was out less than 72 hours later - and I did have a rough recovery at home.
Honestly, all this delivery talk is making me ill and I'm not even pregnant. You know what is most concerning to me? If you think about your worst cramps ever-where you're on the bathroom floor crying and throwing up-and multiply that by 10, it's probably still not as painful as having a child.
ReplyDeleteThough, my bff said you forget about it once you have your baby, so I don't know.
Jesus, my hands are clammy just writing about this.
Beyonce has been on a steroid to plump her face and body up...stop taking it and magic the bloat will go..
ReplyDeleteCan't wait to see her flat tummy in a week or two...the rich are def different.