Old Hollywood Blind Item
This is kind of a mix of old and new Hollywood. New in the sense that not everyone is dead. In fact, one is very much alive and kicking and working and is known by people of all ages. She is a performer. She is also a B list actress both in movies and in television, but has had her most recent fame come because of television acting. Our actress has had a number of marriages. One of them was extremely interesting. Her husband had an affair. I know, I know. Shocking that someone would cheat. It is with whom he cheated that is so so interesting. He cheated on our actress with her mother's husband. The mother was quite famous in her own right. Maybe even more so than the daughter.
liza minnelli?
ReplyDeleteI love Old Hollywood blinds, they're so juicy!
ReplyDeleteBut sorry, I'm stuck on Madonna, which has no business with old Hollywood. So no good guess.
liza!
ReplyDeleteCurtis family?
ReplyDeleteLiza, Judy and Peter Allen?
ReplyDeletealmost wasn't even a blind....LOL
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ReplyDeleteCarrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds
ReplyDeleteHmmm, Angela Lansbury? Her 1st husband was reportedly bisexual
ReplyDeleteso which one of Judy's husbands? I am guessing not Vincente, since the clue does not say father.
ReplyDeleteMark Herron? Biographies have stated he was gay, even though he was Garland's husband, and also had an affair with Tallulah Bankhead.
Liza Minelli/Peter Allen with Judy Garland's 4th husband Mark Herron? Timeline works. And Mark Herron was gay.
ReplyDeletewhat has liza done besides 'arrested development' on tv and that wasn't really recent. ditto for carrie---what tv has she done acting on?
ReplyDeletealso, this sounds like the performer is alive, but the famous mother is not.
Carrie Fisher was only married once (to Paul Simon), so it can't be her.
ReplyDeleteAnything to do with Bett Midler?
ReplyDeleteI think you guys nailed it, except I am not sure why Enty would say that Judy was bigger than Liza when they both are huge stars in their own right and both Oscar winners.
ReplyDeletethe father of Carrie Fisher's child is Bryan Lourd who Carrie used to refer to as her husband. They were never legally married. But he left Carrie for another man.
ReplyDeleteSo that one is kind of a gray area.
Could be her. But I like the Liza guess.
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ReplyDeleteBoth are iconic, but lets honestly face it... no contest, Judy wins over Liza.
And I'm on the Liza/Peter/Mark train.
I was SO excited for this to be Carrie Fisher till I found out she's only been married once.
ReplyDeleteHow about Melanie Griffith for the actress and Steven Bauer from Scarface for the husband who cheated (they were married from '81 to '87.) Tippi Hedren for the mom and her ex husband Luis Barrenechea (married to Tippi from '85 to '95.)
I dunno, I think I am reaching.
how about
ReplyDeleteb-list actress....Vanessa Redgrave
Husband- Tony Richardson ( openly bisexual)
mother's husband- Michael Redgrave(also openly bisexual)
it's probably wrong...but whatever :)
Chaz Bono?
ReplyDeleteLMAO!!! @cdanluva.
ReplyDelete@stephenk - love that guess!
ReplyDeleteConnie Stevens and her (I think) daughter, the Fisher actress?
ReplyDeleteAll I got...
wouldn't it be fun to pretend this was Rumor, Efron, and Ashton?
ReplyDeleteLiza hasn't had her most recent fame because of Television though, has she? Otherwise, Liza is a very good guess.
ReplyDelete@selenakyle - didn't she write a book about that? Being raped at 13 by her father? Or I simply didn't understand your guess?..
ReplyDelete@selenakyle, Joely and Trish Fisher are definitely not the blinders...but they *are* Carrie Fisher's half-sisters. Such a tiny town.
ReplyDeleteI think of Vanessa Redgrave as an A but then Enty's ratings are all over the place sometimes. Having said that I got nuthin'
ReplyDeletecarrie fisher was married to byran lord who was gay
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Liza and Judy! And come on, Judy is way more popular than Liza. She was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. That movie was made in 1939 (72 years ago!) and is still watched by little kids all over the world. She will be remembered for years. Not to mention her Carnegie Hall CD, known as one of the best live performances of all time. Liza is great but Judy is absolutely the best.
ReplyDeleteAlso, they are both huge gay icons known for marrying gay men.
@crila16 - Liza played Lucille 2 in Arrested Development a couple of years ago and that is one of Enty's favorite shows. I can't remember anything else she has done recently so it seems to fit to me!
@henryp - I'll admit it's confusing - I thought they never married - and both IMDB and Wikipedia only list Paul Simon as a husband for Carrie - but a number of other spots on the web refer to Lourd as her husband.
ReplyDeleteI just think that is gross. Sleeping with your mother in law's partner, and your daughter in law's partner? Eek!
ReplyDeleteThat's too close to incestous even though I know it's not, LOL
Liza seems the right guess, but I'm trying to make this about Lisa Marie Presley, Michael Jackson and Marco Garabaldi but sadly it doesn't fit.
ReplyDeleteLiza and Judy FTW.
ReplyDeleteIs Liza a b-lister? I'd put her at A-
ReplyDeleteI love me some Peter Allen! Liza is A list to anyone over the age of 50. I'd put her at B now though. The funny thing is that Liza and Judy both had more than one gay husband, but that is for another day I guess. Liza/Peter/Judy+gay husband du jour for the win.
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ReplyDeleteWild guess but she came to mind 1st. Sally Field Steven Craig/Margaret Field Jock Mahoney(Jock Mahoney was Gregory Peck & John Waynes stunt double)But can being married 2 times mean a number of times and having 2 Oscars be considered b list?
ReplyDeleteI like the Liza/Judy/Peter guess. Liza did Law and Order: Criminal Intent a couple of years ago and does make tv guest appearances. Judy is bigger than Liza.
ReplyDeleteNo way is Liza anything but a solid-forever A-lister. Plus, she does not have recent fame from television. This isn't Liza. I think the wording is odd about the mother. The blind doesn't say she's even in show business, but somehow known in her own right. I am drawing a complete blank. Every time I think of someone, I realize there's something major that doesn't fit with the blind.
ReplyDeleteI like the Liza guess. More often than not, the first guess in the comments here on CDAN is usually dead on.
ReplyDeleteAnd I have to chime in to say I also LOVE the old Hollywood blinds. I still don't think Enty dished the real reveal about Timmy/Shimmy.
@Prairie Prima Donna, I like your guess if only bc I'm still a little in love with Bauer. ;) Must be an '80s thing.
ReplyDeleteIt's definitely got to be one of the below.
ReplyDelete1.Kate Hudson – Daughter of actress Goldie Hawn and singer Bill Hudson.
2.Liza Minelli – The daughter of actress/singer Judy Garland.
3.Lorna Luft – The daughter of actress/singer Judy Garland.
4.Carrie Fisher – Daughter of actress Debbie Reynolds
5.Mariska Hargitay – Daughter of actress Jayne Mansfield
6.Jamie Lee Curtis – Daughter of actress Janet Leigh and actor Tony Curtis
7.Isabella Rossellini – Daughter of actress Ingrid Bergman
8.Melanie Griffith – Daughter of actress Tippi Hedron
9.Joely Richardson- Daughter of actress Vanessa Redgrave
stephenk is correct. Whether the other clues fit her family or not (meaning there could indeed be another case of this happening!) the situation described here fits Vanessa Redgrave precisely. There was a story about it in the UK Daily Mail just a few months ago.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1384460/Cursed-legacy-Vanessa-Redgrave.html
(Strangely enough, when I first read this article, it included specific hypothesizing that Vanessa had caught her husband and her father in bed together, and that is what led her to get divorce. All such references have now been removed from the article. Hmmm...)
1) Actress: Vanessa Redgrave
--Is she B List for both movies and TV? She *was* on Nip/Tuck every now and then. Also has many stage ("performer") credits.
--two official marriages
2) Actress's Husband: Tony Richardson
--father of both Natasha Richardson and Joely Richardson
--known by friends to be either bisexual or gay in 1962 when he and Vanessa married, and carried on numerous same-sex affairs during their marriage
--purportedly left Vanessa and his daughters to be with Jeanne Moreau
3) Actress's Mother: Rachel Kempson, aka Lady Rachel Redgrave
--famous British stage actress and "matriarch" of Redgrave acting dynasty
4) Actress's Father/Actress's Mother's Husband/Actress's Husband's Lover: Sir Michael Redgrave
--hugely famous stage and film actor
--bisexuality first publicly discussed/acknowledged only posthumously in a 1996 BBC documentary
RE: Vanessa Redgrave...would we say that her mother, Rachel Kempson, is more famous than she is? The blind says she is, and I say no way. If I saw the name Rachel Kempson, I'd have no clue who she is. Even if I saw her billed as Lady Rachel Redgrave, I'd assume she's related but I'd still think Vanessa is more famous.
ReplyDeleteI have no better guess, though. Like Prairie Prima Donna, Melanie Griffith DID pop into my head as well. I could see Don Johnson doing this. Has she done any "famous TV" lately? Hmm...
I have heard that Liam Neeson is bisexual.
ReplyDeleteGywenth Paltrow
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