TMZ is reporting that a former nanny and personal assistant in the Kardashian/Jenner family is writing a tell all book. Honestly, it sounds like it will be pretty boring. She dislikes the Jenner boys, but not their dad, Bruce. Apparently all her stories about everyone happened several years ago before the fame and the sex tape so I am not sure just how interesting or salacious the book will be. She does admit that she almost got fired after slapping Brandon Jenner. There is no excuse for slapping a kid, so right away I am not feeling much for this woman at all. She also says she got a DUI while working for the family. Sounds like a real winner.
There sure is a reason to slap a kid. Beat? No. Slap? Maybe.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, who gives a doodle about this family in the first place, let alone before Kim got peed on.
Five words: Will be quashed by lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteRegrettably.
WHAT IS THERE TO TELL?
ReplyDeleteIt is all already out there for the world to see: the sex lives, the no sex lives, the pissing, the marrying, the divorcing, the diaper changing, the face lifts, boob lifts, butt implants. There is nothing left to talk about.
Kardashians are scum so they would have scum floating around them. They are getting exactly what they deserve.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't read the book either. It's nothing we don't know about them already.
Sounds like they hired someone cheap and completly unqualified for the job of caretaking for children.
@Comma if she worked for them before they were "reality" famous. I doubt they had the help sign confidentiality agreements.
ReplyDeleteShe might have free reign to write what she wants.
Im waiting for the Cliffs Notes to go on sale. Then I'll care.
ReplyDeleteGeez - I didn't know there were two brothers - the only one I knew about is the one that was on Dancing with the Stars. What does the other one do?
ReplyDeleteI don't think there is a reason for an employee to slap your kids.
ReplyDeleteSusan, there are two Jenner boys. Rib is the only Kardashian boy.
I'm interested, not in reading it, but to see who the nanny worked for. It sounds like they want to cash in on Kardashian fame but worked for the Jenner household. I was under the impression Bruce Jenner pretty much up and left his family to help raise Kris's and that the Jenner kids, at least Brody, were raised by David Foster.
It doesn't say how old the "boys" were, so maybe the slap was a reaction to having her ass or breasts groped by one of them at some point? Entitled little bastards!
ReplyDeletenever a good reason to slap or beat a child. the only actual reason would be that the parent/caretaker can't control their temper and shouldn't be allowed to be around children.
ReplyDelete@Robert - that's how I read it on TMZ too. They weren't kids anymore when that happened.
ReplyDeleteI can think of several reasons one may need to slap a kid:
ReplyDelete1) tried to stab me or a sibling with a butcher knife
2) tried to burn the house down
3) tried to smash the family pet with a shovel
4) got into Mommy's drug stash and almost overdosed
And on and on
^Michael K? You talkin' about your family reunions again?
ReplyDeleteWTF is Ryan Seacrest doing in this photo?
ReplyDelete^He was the ring barer.
ReplyDelete^Really?!?!?!!!! HILARIOUS!
ReplyDelete@Rita you are on fire lately lol I just <3 you ;)
ReplyDelete@Sue Ellen - I was just kidding! Joel McHale took over my body for a while... Oh how wish!
ReplyDelete@timebob - thks! right back at ya!
Why is Khloe's husband's head double the size of everyone else's head?!! He looks like he is stooping, too. Hate them.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one who's missing Patrick Bateman in that picture? Where is he?
ReplyDeleteThere is absolutely no reason to slap a child. It promotes shame and fear in that child and is not a memory they need to ever have. I dont and won't spank my kids. It's amazing what the power of words do. A simple discussion and giving children choices is the best thing you could do for your kids. And if a nanny slapped my kid?! Holy crap I'd have to restrain myself from going tp jail for doing the same to the nanny.
ReplyDeleteAs for the book? Meh. Dont care about the K Klan or their secrets. Unless they contained something that would wipe them out of the media entirely.
>A simple discussion and giving children choices is the best thing you could do for your kids.
ReplyDeleteDepends on the kid. Some kids, you make a frowny face at them and they fall in line. My kids are extremely stubborn and noncompliant. You can discuss all you like with them, and if they don't feel like listening, they won't. The only thing that makes them behave is the severe consequences you lay out.
That said, I don't believe in corporal punishment, but I have slapped them once or twice when their behavior was particularly outrageous (they're teenagers). And I won't apologize for it.
In an ideal world I don't think children should be hit. Having written that, I think there is a big difference between a light slap on a bottom and whacking them. Every child is different. I don't want to condemn anybody. I have seen my friends try and discipline one of their children every way possible - time out, take toys away, grounding, light spank. He seems immune to pretty much everything.
ReplyDeleteas someone who was beaten growing up (dislocated clavicle, dislocated pelvis, bruised ribs, bruised spine, DYFS involved, etc) i can see several reasons to hit a kid and am pro-physical discipline with children.
ReplyDeletebut at the same time, there is a difference (sometimes a subtle one) between discipline and abuse. discipline requires the adult show restraint with both force and action and the child needs to understand what has initiated the physical discipline and given prior alternatives that they have rejected.
I completely agree with you Alicia. Never any reason to slap a child. All research shows that it damages your relationship with them. There are many sites out there devoted to explaining this, here is one :http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/discipline-behavior/spanking/10-reasons-not-hit-your-child
ReplyDeleteI really think Scott should be the new Bateman. I just fear that he will take it too seriously and start killing prostitutes.
Michael, I don't see how a slap would be the appropriate response to any of the situations you listed other than #1 being some type of self defense thing.
ReplyDelete@Rose: So having a discussion with a kid that is about to flatten a puppy with a shovel is more appropriate than a slap. Girl please.
ReplyDeleteMy grandmother didn't discipline me often,but I was spanked and slapped and she's my best friend in the world and Id do anything for her. My mother didn't discipline me much and there are many reasons our relationship is damaged but her striking me isn't one.
ReplyDeleteIn other words, research can be subjective and isn't 100 percent in all cases.
Just because one person had a different experience that doesnt mean that the research is invalid. There are always outliers.
ReplyDeleteLet's hope Rose doesn't have any children that like to torture animals because it sounds like they would get a pass.
ReplyDeleteIf you have a child that hurts animals, I highly doubt that the right way to deal with it is to hurt the child back. That only teaches him/her that violence is the way to solve problems.
ReplyDeleteI doubt Michael was advocating extreme violence but if a kid was about to "flatten" a puppy with a shovel then a slap would be a good way to shock him out of it. And then I would recommend vigilance and therapy. It's never okay to harm an animal. I don't care if you're two or forty.
ReplyDeleteI would remove the child, but I doubt that slapping him would make him realize that violence is bad.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about the therapy though - children who hurt defenseless animals have some deeper problems to deal with.
Great photo of all of them here. It's like The Godfather family portrait:
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Violence?! That's overreaching. I didn't say beat the child until an inch of its life. Also, I think it's absurd to think you can have a discussion and reason with a human being whose brain hasn't fully developed and runs on 90% impulse. Good luck with that when s/he decides to run into a busy street.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing, isn't it funny how corporal punishment has been banned in nearly every public school and now they're cesspools of violence and bullying. Very interesting.
There's never a good reason to slap a kid. Period. It will just make things worse. If you've reached the point where you think slapping or spanking is necessary, it means you've lost control, and you need some help learning how to properly handle conflict.
ReplyDeleteIf they're about to "flatten a puppy," pull them away, and drag them straight to therapy. But odds are, if they're at that point, you've fucked them up beyond repair already. Probably with the same attitude that made you think slapping was okay.
Michael: Read this article about the non-correlation between not being spanked and misbehaving:
ReplyDeletehttp://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-09/world/world_sweden-punishment-ban_1_corporal-punishment-elizabeth-gershoff-parents?_s=PM:WORLD
It is still legal to spank kids in schools in 19 states.
I don't think that the absence of corporal punishment is the reason why bullying and violence amongst students is on the rise. I think it's because teachers and principals turn a blind eye on those things and that their way of punishing those students by suspending them i. e. sending them on a holiday isn't the right way.
ReplyDeleteKids who behave that way should be forced to attend anger management classes or therapy. If that doesn't work they should be expelled from school.
19 out of 50, I.e. banned in most states. As for Mina, if the answer is expulsion then basically you're just washing your hand of the problem. You can't expel your own kid (OK, in some states you can but I hardly call that parenting)
ReplyDeleteThere is absolutely no proven correlation between children not being spanked and them misbehaving. There ARE, however, MANY studies showing that spanking makes children more agressive.
ReplyDeleteLike this one:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html
I don't care about studies. I care about what I see. When a kid is about to do something dangerous to him/herself, you can try to reason with the kid until you're blue in the face but it doesn't mean s/he will listen and not get hurt.
ReplyDeleteWell, if you are not going to listen to facts it seems strange to continue this discussion to me.
ReplyDeleteFacts? Girl, there were studies on yaz saying it was safe and cleared up pimples and look at it now. Raising ones children is subjective so there are no strict "facts" except that they need to be fed, housed and clothed at the bare minimum. As for why I'm continuing this conversation, because I'm not going to let someone paint me as a child abuser (violence?! Really?!) and stay quiet just because I believe that there is a time and place for corporal punishment. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean you have the right to misconstrue what s/he says.
ReplyDeleteI wasnt trying to do that at all. Spanking someone is a violent act. In what way have I misconstrued something you have said?
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, there are facts about what works and what doesnt in child rearing. You said yourself that you dont care about studies - fine, that is your choice. But they do exist and they all pretty much agree you should not spank your child.
I believe you forgot IN YOUR OPINION as far as spanking being a violent act because there are plenty of people (myself included) that disagrees. And funny that you don't address a specific example of studies being incorrect.
ReplyDeleteBTW, why didn't you address the poster who said spanking was wrong but would end up in jail for whooping up a nanny if s/he slapped her child? I would think seeing your parent whooping someone up and being carted to jail would be FAR more damaging that a spank on the butt.
Honestly, I dont think that your example of a birthcontrol pill being unsafe has anything to do with this.
ReplyDeleteOk, so you dont think that spanking someone is a violent act? That sounds strange to me, but if that is your opinion that is up to you.
I also don't understand why I need to respond to every single poster in this thread. It seems as though you are taking this very personally and think that I am attacking you.
I have never tried to do that, and I am sorry if you feel that way. I have merely stated my opinion, debated, and giving you the links so that you can understand what facts I am basing my argument on.
Actually you've stated your opinion as fact and I'm disagreeing. I'm not taking it personally. Have I insulted you or mentioned some personal story on my life? Nope.
ReplyDeleteWell, then we disagree about what a "fact" is. To me, dozens of peer-reviewed studies in journals focused on child-psychology and child-rearing can be viewed as "facts". You chose to disregard those, that is up to you.
ReplyDeleteI also grew up in a country where spanking is illegal, so I do find it really strange that people still do it.
Then I guess you should own up to your bias then.
ReplyDeleteAnd you should own up to yours in the same way, I guess?
ReplyDeleteI think this discussion is pretty meaningless at this point. I have tried to show you WHY I have come to my conclusion, but that doesnt seem to matter to you.
You've just admitted that it is illegal in your country therefore you have little to no experience on administering corporal punishment which means you are asserting an opinion where you have knowledge only on one side of the argument. THAT is bias. I've known parents on both sides of the issue and have stated clearly what side I'm on.
ReplyDeleteI have also spent a lot of time in this country, and known plenty of people who have used corporal punishment, or have had it used on them. I have also taken classes in child psychology here in the US, and I work with children here. So I would say that I have seen both sides of it.
ReplyDeleteI also grew up in a country where spanking is illegal, so I do find it really strange that people still do it = bias
ReplyDeleteYou grew up in a country where it is not = also bias?
ReplyDeleteNo, I grew up in a country where each parent is allowed to choose to spank or not
ReplyDeleteWould love for her to dish on who Khloe's real daddy is. She reminds me more of the younger Jenner girls then her other sisters.
ReplyDelete@ardleigh: I would be mean and say Bigfoot, but I actually like Khloe. Hope her move to Texas gives her some breathing room from her family.
ReplyDeleteThere is NEVER any reason to slap a kid. If you feel like you have to, maybe you should check your parenting skills. Ridiculous. There are many ways of disciplining you child that are more appropriate and more effective.
ReplyDeleteAnd if a kid was "burning a house down", I don't slapping him would be an appropriate response.
God, I hate it when the trolls suck you in...
God I hate it when a person states her opinion as fact and get on a moral high horse while name calling a person who happens to disagree with her position.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one here who thinks Michael's original comment was meant to be funny? I for one laughed at this list.
ReplyDeleteSo here's my comment that people can take seriously (or, I hope, not) and get upset about: if I saw a kid about to flatten a pet with a shovel, I would remove the child from the gene pool because, hey, I like pets a lot and there are too many kids in the world already.
Oh em gee, @figgy advocates child murder.
@SusanB - Um, I believe he hosts American Idol :-/
ReplyDeleteLook, child slapping is one of those polarizing topics, like abortion or gay rights, and this might be a situation where we have to agree to disagree.
HOWEVER, can we PLEEZ all put up a united front and agree that it is ALWAYS okay to slap a Kardashian?
Honestly, if you're in slapping range of a K! it is your civic duty to wallop them as hard as you can. Not slapping a K! when given the opportunity should be a felony.
@Principessa: I can agree with that EXCEPT for Kim. I don't want any STDs.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait! I want to know all about the Kardashians! I find them fascinating! And if you believe that, I have a million dollars I'm just itching to give away if you'll only give me your bank account number...
ReplyDeleteHaha my mother chased me around with a Barbie doll! She never got me because I hid behind my grandma. I don't think I'm scarred, but my mother wasn't the nanny either. Though Mom didn't really care if others disciplined me, which now as a parent, I don't agree with.
ReplyDeleteBruce Jenner has been married 3 times: his first marriage, during which he won the Gold Medal, resulted in two children- a son named Burt (who is 33) and a daughter named Casey (who is 31). Since we never hear ANYTHING about these children, my guess is that they are normal people living out of the spotlight. Bruce's second marriage was to Linda Thompson, who was a girlfriend of Elvis and a piece of work. They had two sons, Brandon (who is 30) and Brody (who is 28). Then he married Kris and had the two girls. The Jenner/Kardashian family has 10 kids total.
ReplyDeleteThe reason I actually know all this? Years ago the two youngest Jenner sons had a reality show called "Princes of Malibu" that was about them, their mother, and their stepfather David Foster. They were incredibly obnoxious. I hate the Kadashians, but they manage to be somewhat likable. The Jenner boys were like male Paris Hiltons- their best friend on the show was Spencer Pratt, so that pretty much says it all.
So yeah...I can understand why someone would slap Brandon.