Well, Marc Anthony believes his marriage ended not because of his controlling ways or the fact he would cheat every chance he got on Jennifer Lopez, but rather their arguments about Scientology. He was not a fan and Jennifer Lopez wanted nothing more than to be accepted into the club. Apparently Jennifer wanted their twins educated in Scientology schools and Marc said no and that was just the start of their arguments about that. Plus, I don't think Marc hangs out in the same circles as Tom Cruise and John Travolta if you know what I mean so he probably was not too keen on any secret initiations those two do to male newcomers they like. Not that Marc would really be likable to either. I mean he is like a cigarette hanging onto some skin and fake teeth.
I think JLo went to the church to save her career...and she probably believes it did just that.
ReplyDeleteRun from them Marc and take the kids with you!
ReplyDeleteI believe the rumors that she's into Santeria more than the ones about her involvement with Scientology, personally. It seems as if so many celebs have dabbled with the Scis, though. But...WHY?! What is the PAYOFF -- besides the whole world questioning your "religion" and considering you a conspiratorial weirdo?
ReplyDeleteSidenote: my dad's college roommate was inducted into Skull & Bones, and they have some similar homoerotic rituals, apparently. Very strange.
Ah but Skull & Bones is a whole different thing, it's the ultimate boys club. George W. Bush is a member...
ReplyDeleteI finally found something to like about Marc Anthony
ReplyDeleteWhy is it Tom Cruise is so tall in this picture?
ReplyDeleteGeez, now I feel like I'm on Team Skeletor?
ReplyDeleteAnnika- I was coming on here to mention that he makes Tommy look tall! No wonder they like hanging with them
ReplyDelete@MISCH -- Dubya's member is a member, from what *I* understand. ;-)
ReplyDeleteI think JLo and SkellyBones are really that much shorter than Crazy Cruise...
ReplyDelete@Annika, if his pant legs were pulled up, we would probably see custom made stilts :)
ReplyDeleteI don't think Marc hangs out in the same circles as Tom Cruise and John Travolta if you know what I mean
ReplyDeleteWhat on earth does that mean? LOL.
More stories about Skull&Bones please, Ida. Were you referring to that masturbating in coffins while reciting all of your sexual conquests ritual? Also, this reminded me of Gilmore Girls, is it true what they say in the series that an equally secret society exists in Yale and is called The Life&Death Brigade?
ReplyDelete@ califblondy, a lot of rumors that TC and JT like their own team. A whole lot more than our team. Damn it, now I am going to have to be rooting for a cheating, controlling, latin bastard. : (
ReplyDelete@Mina -- Oh, I'm no Yalie. I couldn't tell you about any other secret societies among that set. But my dad *was* a Bulldog, as I mentioned before, and your coffin theory? Yep. That's the SAME one my dad told me about.
ReplyDeleteWhat's grosser? Imagining a bunch of dudes in a quasi-vampirical circle jerk, or having your father relate the story TO you?
I still don't know.
I think all colleges have secret societies. Mine had one where all the members held candles, walked around the quad, and wore identical converse sneakers so no one could tell who they were. With my big mouth, I was obviously NOT invited to participate. ;-)
*Oh, and I forgot to add that the secret society people at my college wore black cloaks the size of tablecloths. They took anonymity a LITTLE overboard, IMO.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like Tom is standing on a sidewalk.
ReplyDeleteIda, I would also love to know more about Skull & Bones.
I am just fascinated by how Jlo has managed to spin this divorce. She is on the cover of EVERY single frecking magazine, making him out to be such a horrible man. I must think she is getting help from friends in powerful places.
ReplyDelete@Rose: Check out "Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, The Ivy League, and the Hidden Paths of Power," by Alexandra Robbins (or alexandrarobbins.com.) Quite informative.
ReplyDelete@Rose -- I would too, honestly! There was a book written about S&B a year or so ago, and it's been on my to-read list for, well, about a year. Same goes for the one about the Freemasons and the Illuminati. I am SO fascinated by stuff like that.
ReplyDeleteI only know what my dad passed along -- and he only knows what his roommate passed along -- and his roommate was SURELY intoxicated when he originally told my dad that stuff, so who knows?
Does anyone remember reading an article in Vanity Fair a few years back about a bigass gathering of VERY powerful men (of *course* they can't allow the vaginafolk in these groups) who meet among the Redwoods in CA every year or so? Tons of Skull and Bones dudes attend that orgy/party/conference/whatever the hell it is, but I honestly can't remember its origins and history.
@Robert -- YES! That's the book. Thanks. I'm glad to hear it was a worthy read.
ReplyDeleteI have a bit of an Illuminati obsession as well, but that's because I read The Vigilant Citizen verey day *L*. I kind of have a thing for conspiracy theories. Not to say I believe in all of them, but there are some out there that kind of make sense.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Ida. This all sounds very interesting. I think I will check out that book, too. Your dad's roommate must be a big shot then nowadays, right? Do you know how they choose their new members? Money? Influence? Or do also other people sometimes get a chance to join. This reminds me of that movie with Joshua Jackson in which he is being chosen to participate in Skull&Bones.
ReplyDeleteverey+every. I don't know why my propfreading skills get shut off every time I come to this site.
ReplyDeleteGODDAMNIT!
ReplyDeleteOkay, I just read the synopsis of the book on Amazon, but it says that Skull and Bones is a secret society of the Yale University. I always thought it's Harvard. Huh?
ReplyDelete@Mina -- Absolutely right about the money thing. And today, dad's old roommate is actually a lawyer in Hollywood, which begs the question:
ReplyDeleteOMG. What if he's ENTY?!
Jlo's Dad was a devout Scientolo ,no? wonder if that split up her parent's marriage as her mom is a big old Catholic.
ReplyDelete@Ida: LOL!
ReplyDeleteI just read that there are more than one secret society in Yale. Must be a real competition there.
Armistead Maupin's Significant Others, the fifth in the very dear series, covers the Bohemian Grove very well. Lots of fun commentary to laugh about.
ReplyDelete@Ida
ReplyDeleteYes! The Bohemian Club!!!
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2009/05/bohemian-grove200905
There are also rumours of a fraction of the Illuminati having some kind of headquarters in the Redwoods near Santa Cruz, where an immortality project has been going on for years! I love that shit!
@Maja -- YYYYYESSSSSSSSS! That's IT! THANKS!
ReplyDeleteI'll never forget the pictures from that article. Impressive *and* creepy.
I think this would make an interesting "Your Turn". If you had the option to get to know all the secrets of the world (Illuminati, Freemasons, Roswell, Marilyn's death, Kennedy's death, etc.) would you really want to know them or not?
ReplyDelete@Mina -- EFF. YES.
ReplyDeleteBut I'd only want to be one of maaaaaaaybe ten people who know the truth about those conspiracies. Just to keep it all special or whatever. ;-)
The Vanity Fair article about the "golden couple" really scared the crap outta me when it comes scientology.
ReplyDelete@Ida B, Maja and any others interested: Check out a website called whale.to, as well. The amount of information contained there is staggering--it includes all the stuff on The Vigilant Citizen, plus links and links to links...it goes on and on. Totally absorbing.
ReplyDelete@Mina: S&B is and always has been a Yale society. There are others (Scroll and Key, for example,) which don't have nearly the notoriety or sinister overtones of S&B. Also, "The Skulls" and "The Good Shepherd" are definitely S&B related films.
Alex Jones snuck into the Bohemian Grove and recorded some of their ceremonies a few years ago; truly bizarre stuff, with participants from the highest levels of power in America.
Thanks a LOT, Robert. You've just pretty much guaranteed that I am not going to get any more work done ever *L*.
ReplyDeleteMy friends mum told me that one of her friends had a husband who was asked to join the Freemasons. They had been married a very long time and had never kept secrets from each other. She told her husband he had to choose, so he left the Freemasons. He had a bag that was supposed to be secret, so of course she demanded he show her what was in it. It was some tool (maybe a hammer, I can't remember) and a book.
ReplyDeleteHmm....I don't really care why their marriage broke up, but I *do* think Scientology is a valid reason for getting the eff out ;)
ReplyDelete@Ida: I'm also curious about all of those things, but I don't think that I would really want to know the truth. I fear that I would go insane by getting to know what would really go on in this world you know about but can't prevent (crimes, abuse of power etc.) or change if it's something that could endanger the life of all human beings. For example; all those things that you could see in the X-Files series or crazy people doing as they please by killing others or experimenting with them. "From Hell" with Johnny Depp comes to mind as well. Wasn't Jack the Ripper a member of the Freemasons in it?
ReplyDeleteI think knowing about all of those secrets would really make a person go crazy.
Team Skeletor indeed.....
ReplyDeleteTeam Marc on this. I believe he's controlling and creepy, but I also believe she's a Xenu-worshiper which to my mind is far worse and way creepier.
ReplyDeleteI also remembered that JLo's father had been in Scientology for 30 years. She keeps denying she was ever in it, but eventually said that there are things about it that work for her.
ReplyDeleteHard to believe I'm also rooting for Team Skeletor on this one.
I used to walk by the Skull & Bones temple when I was hanging around New Haven. I heard all the initiation stories. Some of the Yale women (S&B was still stag then, I think) told hilariously scathing jokes about them.
ReplyDeleteNot every elite institution has secret societies. Mine deliberately did not. We substituted massive psychedelic orgies instead.
I agree with Marc. Team Skelator!
ReplyDelete...And the reason Scieno is so attractive to people in showbiz is that the initial "dogma" is a combination of depersonalization and massive ego boosting. If you've ever done the audition grind you can understand why people in the biz get sucked into Scieno.
ReplyDeleteAnd Cruise must have been standing on a curb.
Mina, that's a good point. I think I would pick one or two things and want the real answers to them, like Marilyn's death and what is going on at Roswell.
ReplyDeleteRobert, Mina, Maja, & Ida, thanks for all that extra info and links. I love searching and reading through these kind of sites, except they always lead to another page and then another. Then it's 3 AM.
I'm still none the wiser why any group of men finds it bonding to masturbate together in or out of a coffin, elite society or not.
I wouldn't get too fixated about the Kinsey-derived myths about male sexual behavior. That guy had a weird imagination. I have never masturbated in front of another man (or woman, actually). I suppose some guys really have done a circle jerk none of my buddies have admitted to doing so when beered up.
ReplyDeleteIt was so obvious she was using the press to spin the story, she's really smart and her PR works wonders. So it's not that I'm a Team Skeletor, but I never once have been in Team JLO. So yeah, get the kids and run, Marc.
ReplyDeleteJlo is such a crashing bore that it boggles my mind that she, like someone else posted, is currently on the cover of every rag on the rack. I fully believe that she's a follower of Xenu. Nothing else explains her success.
ReplyDeleteTeam Marc on this one...all the way.
ReplyDeleteBTW, how short are J Lo and Marc that Tommy towers over them!?
Tom looks tall because he is standing on a little kid.
ReplyDeleteTeam Skeletor! He's right to want to get his kids away from Scio, but he is not the most active father. He probably won't see the twins once the divorce is final. He doesn't seem to be too active in his other kids' lives.
ReplyDelete@B. Profane
ReplyDeleteI have to know. What school did you go to?
Thanks to all of you for the multiple links -- I love reading about secret societies. If you check the names of S&B, Bohemian Grove, etc. members, you really see networking at the highest levels. Could be kind of scary, but yeah, i'd want to know all of the legends/secrets/stories behind the groups.
ReplyDelete@Sue Ellen -- Ask Ida, she'll know.
ReplyDelete@B. Profane -- I have an idea...but some folks on this site have been known to engage in colorful hyperbole in regards to their educational experiences. ;-)
ReplyDeleteIf you spent time hanging out in New Haven (and WHHHHHHHHHY the heck would you ever do THAT?!), I'm gonna guess you attended either Wesleyan or UConn.
@Ida -- Seriously, who could throw an insanely pedantic snit about the definition of "hubris" as self-aggrandizing hyperbole?
ReplyDeleteU Conn? Stop insulting me, girlfriend. You couldn't give me the props to start guessing with Williams?
@B. Profane -- LOL. Good point. ;-)
ReplyDeleteWell, then I'm going to guess that you DIDN'T go to Williams -- simply because you tossed it out as a possibility.
I still think you went to Wesleyan -- it's mostly your mention of the psychedelic orgies.
I have to say, though, that some of the most intelligent people I've ever met never attended college at ALL -- they used their time and money to travel the world, learn new languages, sample new cuisines, foster weird talents, befriend wacky eccentrics, etc.
I still maintain that college is what you make of it -- it doesn't matter WHERE you go, it matters what you do while you're there, and how you apply all that knowledge once you've graduated.
I think my biggest undergrad class contained *maybe* thirty people. I cannot IMAGINE sitting in a lecture hall with hundreds of other students and getting that same intimate academic experience, but hey -- diff'rent strokes...
You're beginning to grow on me, I must say. But in a good way -- not like a too-mah (say that like Ahnuld).
@B.
ReplyDeleteO.k, sure. Then I'll climb into a viper pit and feed them with my feet.
I just thought you might have gone to an ivy league and I was curious.
@Ida -- Darling, I know you're just yanking on my Derrida for fun. You didn't even need the "massive psychedelic orgies" hint.
ReplyDelete@Sue M. -- Attending an Ivy would have been slumming. But from hanging around New Haven in those days I did surmise that the sweatshirt rumor about Jodie Foster was just a juicy exaggeration.
ReplyDeleteI feel like this is a puzzle to figure out. O.k New Haven has Yale, but Ivy league is slumming to you, so what is better than Ivy? M.I.T? That's close to Conneticuit(sp).
ReplyDeleteM.I.T is my guess.
I'm giggling at the image of Harvardians spitting out their coffee over your assertion that MIT is more elite than Harvard. I remember this one Harvardian, gorgeous chica, I was at this B&D party and it was her turn to be whipped...wait, what was your question again?
ReplyDeleteI have mad respect for MIT. Buddy of mine was admitted there but went and got his ass shot off instead.
Ida is right, what you get out of your undergrad tour is what you make of it. Brand names are silly.
I'm Canadian. I have no idea which schools are the best besides the common ones like Harvard or Yale. I was wondering which school you went to because I had a couple of questions, but I can just google them.
ReplyDeleteI don't necessarily agree that the name of the school doesn't matter, it does. Especially if you're trying to get into Grad/Law school for an 80 at an "easy" school is not equal to an 80 at an Ivy league. However, I totally agree that it is what you make it.
p.s. Why do I feel like you are the poster previously known as Hmmmmm?
I don't agree about education is what you make of it. If colleges were just about educating an individual, that would make sense. That is not true in the real world though. Alumi associations are important. Those are the connections you will call upon when you are looking for a job. I know Stanford alumni who got where they are by where they went. I can say the same for Cal grads. I'm sure it is the same for Ivy League grads.
ReplyDeleteCollege IS what you make of it; and we've all known autodidacts with incredible ranges of knowledge.
ReplyDeleteIf you're in an Ivy or other elite college, your fellow students will provide you with a very rich network you can "work" in the future.
But if you're a total jerk, regardless of the exclusivity of your school, your network will probably pay you back in kind sooner or later.
Henriette & elspeth: In Alexandra Robbins' book, she says that there are so many Yale graduates in the CIA that you're not really "in" unless you've gone there, and are something of an outsider your whole career; another example of your points.
ReplyDeleteI've gotten two (great) jobs based on my own alumni connections, so I DO believe in academic networking. That's for sure.
ReplyDeleteBut my dad said it best a few years ago: "the only people who truly give a shit that I went to Yale are other people who also went to Yale." ;-)
The only people I've met who say "college is what you make of it" went to elite schools. I never hear my friends who went to SF State say that. It's that:"Oh I'm not special because I went to Harvard. I'm just like everyone else (not)." I call it false humility. There are reasons elite schools stay elite.
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