Corgi's are so smart!! I have a Corgi/Chihuahua (a Chigi, if you will) and he knocks on doors with his paw/nails when he wants in. They're smart little buggers. I could never lock up my dogs like that though. I think it's cruel.
I'm with you, Grape. I don't understand this whole "crating" (actually, "caging") movement. I think it's horrible. Why wound anyone keep a pet dog in a cage? Whose bright idea was this? Pets are part of the family. They should be with the rest of the family members. I know a lot of people disagree with me, but I just ask them how THEY'D like to be locked in a cage for hours at a time. I have a chiweenie -- half Chihuahua, half weiner dog -- and she "knocks" on the French doors when she wants inside. And woe betide me if I don't get there within 30 seconds to let in her highness!
too cute! what a smart little doggie! All nonchalant about it too - probably just in case the owners were looking ;-) "Huh? What? No, I'm just saying hi to him. I'm not messing with the door so he can get out. I PROMISE!"
Crating isn't actually cruel. I watched an ep of Cesar Milan's show where this couple would leave the house and there dog would literally destroy the living room in a matter of hours when they were gone because of separation anxiety. It was a bigger dog and is destroyed the door jam, the door and a couch. The family had already replaced the couch before and the door a couple of times. The dog chewed on the door knob so hard it dented it trying to get out of the house.
Cesar crated the dog and it was way more calm. A crate becomes a home and the animal will go there when it's scared to feel safe. It's an innate behavior and works well if started at the puppy stage.
I'm not saying a dog should be crated all day if you're at home but when you go out and some dogs like to sleep in their crates at night.
Caging seems mean, but it really isn't my parents caged their dogs for potty training. When they wanted to be alone, they went into the crates themselves. Remember, dogs are not humans. They are equal to humans, but they have different brains and think differently.
Years ago I had a huge hall bathroom and would put my Springer Spaniel and Cat in there together during the day. They kept getting out and we could not figure out how. We walked outside and watched from the window and the cat got on the bathroom counter and turned the door knob and the dog pulled at the bottom of the door. We laughed so hard that we had tears rolling down our cheeks. We got doggie gates and left them loose after that. We have a 1 yr old Golden that we crate at night and when we are not home. She has been in it since she was a puppy. When we cannot find her, sometimes she is asleep in her crate. She feels safe in there I think. We just say crate when we are leaving and she goes right in and lays down.
I agree with Audrey and Cheryl. Crating isn't cruel if done in the right sense. We put our husky in the crate when we leave the house bc when left alone she knows how to open the doors to our rooms. She'll pull our clothes from the laundry and shred them, chew up shoes, tear a hole in the mattress, open our kitchen pantry, chew wires, etc. She's more calm since we started crating and now she goes in there voluntarily when she's tired or wants to be alone. Sometimes she doesn't even come out when I call her name...
I ADORE corgis, everyone in my family had one when I was growing up, I cannot understand why they are not popular anymore. They have the loveliest dispositions. Those 2 in the video are very subtle aren't they? LOL
Timely comments, I am about to adopt a rescued dog (or 2) and I have never crated a dog and also thought it was a bit weird. But I think as I have learnt more about the practice it depends on the dog in question. Some dogs suffer terribly from separation anxiety so in those cases I think crating is the best idea rather than the owners coming home and being angry at the dog. So I am keeping an open mind and waiting to see what I end up with as to whether to crate or not to crate. My employer allows employees to bring their dogs to work though so that is a big help.
Hilarious, I work with a lady who runs a Corgi rescue, she'll love this video.
I don't understand people who leave dogs crated *all* the time. A friend who had a husky of some kind lived in a tiny apt and kept the thing crated something like 12 hrs a day. That seemed wrong.
That said, I have crates for my black labs, they used to be crated at night and anytime they were alone in the house (they play outside during the day while I'm gone). Now the nervous one crates herself when noise gets on her nerves, it's her safe place.
I guess if you don't have a yard and are planning on getting a puppy, I would get a crate with the intention of letting them roam the house when they're able.
Sorry, people, I strongly disagree with you on the crating. It is absolutely cruel if you lock the animal in a crate for hours. Now, if you have a crate with their water, food, toys, etc., and leave it unlatched for them to come and go at will, that's great. It's kind of an indoor doghouse and is their own "special place." But keeping an animal caged for hours is terrible. The destructive dog needed behavioral training, Cheryl, not to be incarcerated. If all the owners do is restrict the dog's movement, they aren't actually treating the issue. I am currently fostering a pit bull mix that my chiweenie like to get wound up and then entice him to chase my cats. So when I'm at work, the cats are shut in my master suite, which has my bedroom, bathroom, and dressing room. And I feel guilty about even that, even though I KNOW all they do is sleep on my bed all day.
It's a good way to train a dog to not pee in the house. They will not pee where they sleep. That said, I totally agree with you, Texshan, the dog must have water (and food depending on the feeding schedule). Also, the crate has to be big enough for the dog. Good for you for fostering!
I have lab/boxer mix and a German Shepherd. We built a large kennel on the one side of our house because they kept destroying things in the house during the day when we were at work. The little shits were so smart that they kept opening up the kennel latch. We'd try securing it different ways and each day we'd come home to them greeting us at the door. We finally gave up and they finally learned how to not destroy things in the house.
The German Shepherd knows how to open bedroom doors too. Found that out when I was staying with a friend for a while because she witnessed it. Dogs are very smart!
Thanks, Audrey, but don't give me too many pats on the back -- the poor sweetie-pie showed up in my backyard one night, skinny and flea-infested. What was I supposed to do? There's no way I could take him to the pound. And all the shelters -- at least those willing to take a pit bull, even a mix -- are full. People, adopt a pet from a shelter! Don't pay breeders! And get your animals fixed!!
Crating is an excellent way to housebreak a puppy, which is what it looks like this family is doing. However, puppies should NEVER be crated for hours and hours. I used a crate to housebreak my Westie, and it worked great. After he was housebroken, I removed the door of the crate, and it became his little cave where he would go to be alone and nap. Crates shouldn't be used as punishment.
I have a 70 lb Border Collie/ Golden Retriever mix whom I used to crate (big crate!) at night and whenever I was away during the day. (He actually prefers being outside rain or shine. I'd rather not have muddy paw prints everywhere.) However, I haven't crated him at all since this past December. I started training him as a puppy regarding his behavior and he has lots of toys to keep him busy while I'm away. Actually, I think he sleeps most of the time. It really wasn't that difficult and we're both much happier now.
See now, I gotta disagree on "all crating is horrible." I think it depends on the owner and the dog. I crate mine (pretty infrequently now, as I work from home). She has a bed, water and a chew toy. I like to leave music on for her & my other dog. She readily goes in there when I am walking out the door & sometime sleeps there when she doesn't have to.
I realize it seems like maybe not the ideal situation, but after having foster dogs get out of my fenced in yard and/or destroying my house, furniture, etc. sometimes it's the only option. The rescue group I used to work with said absolutely no more than 8 hours at a time and in best cases, the owner would have someone to let the dog out in the middle of that time frame, but let's face it...not everyone can afford to or is able to do that. The alternative is of course, to not own a pet, but in the cases where I was reviewing prospective homes, if it meant the difference between a dog having a home or being homeLESS, I choose to go w/ the craters (if it was necessary). I do think if you work all day and have to crate all day, you should be taking your pooch on a LOOOONG walk daily so they can get their exercise.
People that crate ALL the time (or keep their dogs tied up to a tree, in pins outside or just NEVER let their dogs in the house) should just not have pets period.
That's just my two cents from working in rescue... ;)
Texshan, I used to feel the same way about crating. If an owner is leaving their dog in the crate for hours on end, that is definitely cruel. But I think you're thinking too much like a human. Many breeds think of the crate as a secure place. Now, I have never heard of a chiweenie! I LOVE it! I have a blond mimi dachshund, and a terrier/dachshund mix (a terr-weenie?) that is as strong as an ox and can move like a cat. Love them to death. they have the run of the house. The most important thing, if you have a puppy, is you must be consistent with training, and they must be exercised. My dogs are absolutely fine in the house.
I was on the same "crating is cruel" band wagon because my lab/rottie mix is SUPER chill. However my roommate moved in with her boxer/hound mix (a "bound" if you will) who is crate trained and adores her crate. She hangs out in her crate when we're sitting around watching TV (with the door open, she just willingly walks in there and lays down and can come and go as she pleases). Before I leave for work I sometimes can't find her to get her into the crate and it's because she's already in there. It's safer for her to be crated (She chewed through a power cord once, how she didn't shock herself is beyond me) and she's only crated when we're not home during the work day. Otherwise she's out, and she gets plenty of exercise. She just thinks of it as her house (that's me projecting, I know she doesn't understand the term 'house') and likes being in there.
And people call them "dumb animals!" I thought the one outside walked away because he gave up, but then thought he was playing it cool: "I have no idea how that door got opened!"
Corgi's are so smart!! I have a Corgi/Chihuahua (a Chigi, if you will) and he knocks on doors with his paw/nails when he wants in. They're smart little buggers. I could never lock up my dogs like that though. I think it's cruel.
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ReplyDeleteDogs are so awesome!
Ah I love critter videos :)
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, Grape. I don't understand this whole "crating" (actually, "caging") movement. I think it's horrible. Why wound anyone keep a pet dog in a cage? Whose bright idea was this? Pets are part of the family. They should be with the rest of the family members. I know a lot of people disagree with me, but I just ask them how THEY'D like to be locked in a cage for hours at a time.
ReplyDeleteI have a chiweenie -- half Chihuahua, half weiner dog -- and she "knocks" on the French doors when she wants inside. And woe betide me if I don't get there within 30 seconds to let in her highness!
too cute! what a smart little doggie! All nonchalant about it too - probably just in case the owners were looking ;-) "Huh? What? No, I'm just saying hi to him. I'm not messing with the door so he can get out. I PROMISE!"
ReplyDeleteCrating isn't actually cruel. I watched an ep of Cesar Milan's show where this couple would leave the house and there dog would literally destroy the living room in a matter of hours when they were gone because of separation anxiety. It was a bigger dog and is destroyed the door jam, the door and a couch. The family had already replaced the couch before and the door a couple of times. The dog chewed on the door knob so hard it dented it trying to get out of the house.
ReplyDeleteCesar crated the dog and it was way more calm. A crate becomes a home and the animal will go there when it's scared to feel safe. It's an innate behavior and works well if started at the puppy stage.
I'm not saying a dog should be crated all day if you're at home but when you go out and some dogs like to sleep in their crates at night.
Caging seems mean, but it really isn't my parents caged their dogs for potty training. When they wanted to be alone, they went into the crates themselves. Remember, dogs are not humans. They are equal to humans, but they have different brains and think differently.
ReplyDeleteYears ago I had a huge hall bathroom and would put my Springer Spaniel and Cat in there together during the day. They kept getting out and we could not figure out how. We walked outside and watched from the window and the cat got on the bathroom counter and turned the door knob and the dog pulled at the bottom of the door. We laughed so hard that we had tears rolling down our cheeks. We got doggie gates and left them loose after that. We have a 1 yr old Golden that we crate at night and when we are not home. She has been in it since she was a puppy. When we cannot find her, sometimes she is asleep in her crate. She feels safe in there I think. We just say crate when we are leaving and she goes right in and lays down.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Audrey and Cheryl. Crating isn't cruel if done in the right sense. We put our husky in the crate when we leave the house bc when left alone she knows how to open the doors to our rooms. She'll pull our clothes from the laundry and shred them, chew up shoes, tear a hole in the mattress, open our kitchen pantry, chew wires, etc. She's more calm since we started crating and now she goes in there voluntarily when she's tired or wants to be alone. Sometimes she doesn't even come out when I call her name...
ReplyDeleteI ADORE corgis, everyone in my family had one when I was growing up, I cannot understand why they are not popular anymore. They have the loveliest dispositions.
ReplyDeleteThose 2 in the video are very subtle aren't they? LOL
Timely comments, I am about to adopt a rescued dog (or 2) and I have never crated a dog and also thought it was a bit weird. But I think as I have learnt more about the practice it depends on the dog in question. Some dogs suffer terribly from separation anxiety so in those cases I think crating is the best idea rather than the owners coming home and being angry at the dog. So I am keeping an open mind and waiting to see what I end up with as to whether to crate or not to crate. My employer allows employees to bring their dogs to work though so that is a big help.
Hilarious, I work with a lady who runs a Corgi rescue, she'll love this video.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand people who leave dogs crated *all* the time. A friend who had a husky of some kind lived in a tiny apt and kept the thing crated something like 12 hrs a day. That seemed wrong.
That said, I have crates for my black labs, they used to be crated at night and anytime they were alone in the house (they play outside during the day while I'm gone). Now the nervous one crates herself when noise gets on her nerves, it's her safe place.
I guess if you don't have a yard and are planning on getting a puppy, I would get a crate with the intention of letting them roam the house when they're able.
Sorry, people, I strongly disagree with you on the crating. It is absolutely cruel if you lock the animal in a crate for hours. Now, if you have a crate with their water, food, toys, etc., and leave it unlatched for them to come and go at will, that's great. It's kind of an indoor doghouse and is their own "special place." But keeping an animal caged for hours is terrible. The destructive dog needed behavioral training, Cheryl, not to be incarcerated. If all the owners do is restrict the dog's movement, they aren't actually treating the issue.
ReplyDeleteI am currently fostering a pit bull mix that my chiweenie like to get wound up and then entice him to chase my cats. So when I'm at work, the cats are shut in my master suite, which has my bedroom, bathroom, and dressing room. And I feel guilty about even that, even though I KNOW all they do is sleep on my bed all day.
It's a good way to train a dog to not pee in the house. They will not pee where they sleep. That said, I totally agree with you, Texshan, the dog must have water (and food depending on the feeding schedule). Also, the crate has to be big enough for the dog. Good for you for fostering!
ReplyDeleteI have lab/boxer mix and a German Shepherd. We built a large kennel on the one side of our house because they kept destroying things in the house during the day when we were at work. The little shits were so smart that they kept opening up the kennel latch. We'd try securing it different ways and each day we'd come home to them greeting us at the door. We finally gave up and they finally learned how to not destroy things in the house.
ReplyDeleteThe German Shepherd knows how to open bedroom doors too. Found that out when I was staying with a friend for a while because she witnessed it. Dogs are very smart!
Thanks, Audrey, but don't give me too many pats on the back -- the poor sweetie-pie showed up in my backyard one night, skinny and flea-infested. What was I supposed to do? There's no way I could take him to the pound. And all the shelters -- at least those willing to take a pit bull, even a mix -- are full.
ReplyDeletePeople, adopt a pet from a shelter! Don't pay breeders! And get your animals fixed!!
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ReplyDeleteCrating is an excellent way to housebreak a puppy, which is what it looks like this family is doing. However, puppies should NEVER be crated for hours and hours. I used a crate to housebreak my Westie, and it worked great. After he was housebroken, I removed the door of the crate, and it became his little cave where he would go to be alone and nap. Crates shouldn't be used as punishment.
ReplyDeleteI have a 70 lb Border Collie/ Golden Retriever mix whom I used to crate (big crate!) at night and whenever I was away during the day. (He actually prefers being outside rain or shine. I'd rather not have muddy paw prints everywhere.) However, I haven't crated him at all since this past December. I started training him as a puppy regarding his behavior and he has lots of toys to keep him busy while I'm away. Actually, I think he sleeps most of the time. It really wasn't that difficult and we're both much happier now.
ReplyDeleteSee now, I gotta disagree on "all crating is horrible." I think it depends on the owner and the dog. I crate mine (pretty infrequently now, as I work from home). She has a bed, water and a chew toy. I like to leave music on for her & my other dog. She readily goes in there when I am walking out the door & sometime sleeps there when she doesn't have to.
ReplyDeleteI realize it seems like maybe not the ideal situation, but after having foster dogs get out of my fenced in yard and/or destroying my house, furniture, etc. sometimes it's the only option. The rescue group I used to work with said absolutely no more than 8 hours at a time and in best cases, the owner would have someone to let the dog out in the middle of that time frame, but let's face it...not everyone can afford to or is able to do that. The alternative is of course, to not own a pet, but in the cases where I was reviewing prospective homes, if it meant the difference between a dog having a home or being homeLESS, I choose to go w/ the craters (if it was necessary). I do think if you work all day and have to crate all day, you should be taking your pooch on a LOOOONG walk daily so they can get their exercise.
People that crate ALL the time (or keep their dogs tied up to a tree, in pins outside or just NEVER let their dogs in the house) should just not have pets period.
That's just my two cents from working in rescue... ;)
Texshan, I used to feel the same way about crating. If an owner is leaving their dog in the crate for hours on end, that is definitely cruel. But I think you're thinking too much like a human. Many breeds think of the crate as a secure place. Now, I have never heard of a chiweenie! I LOVE it! I have a blond mimi dachshund, and a terrier/dachshund mix (a terr-weenie?) that is as strong as an ox and can move like a cat. Love them to death. they have the run of the house. The most important thing, if you have a puppy, is you must be consistent with training, and they must be exercised. My dogs are absolutely fine in the house.
ReplyDeleteI was on the same "crating is cruel" band wagon because my lab/rottie mix is SUPER chill. However my roommate moved in with her boxer/hound mix (a "bound" if you will) who is crate trained and adores her crate. She hangs out in her crate when we're sitting around watching TV (with the door open, she just willingly walks in there and lays down and can come and go as she pleases). Before I leave for work I sometimes can't find her to get her into the crate and it's because she's already in there. It's safer for her to be crated (She chewed through a power cord once, how she didn't shock herself is beyond me) and she's only crated when we're not home during the work day. Otherwise she's out, and she gets plenty of exercise. She just thinks of it as her house (that's me projecting, I know she doesn't understand the term 'house') and likes being in there.
ReplyDeleteAnd people call them "dumb animals!" I thought the one outside walked away because he gave up, but then thought he was playing it cool: "I have no idea how that door got opened!"
ReplyDeleteRobert, I thought the same thing! The nonchalant walking away part is SO PIMP. love it!
ReplyDeleteThat was so cute. I thought he just gave up,that was really smart.
ReplyDeleteI have cats, so don't know what any of this "crating" means. I thought the vid was cut thought.
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