You know how when you were growing up you always wondered if your parent had a favorite child? If you were the one they liked most, or were just an after thought? Well, in Kelsey Grammer's world, he has a favorite and has no problems saying it. Yesterday, Camille Grammer took time away from flirting with her tennis teacher and filed a competing custody petition to try and get sole custody of the children she had with Kelsey. The reason? She says it is because Kelsey has proposed splitting up the children. Camille would take 9 year old Mason while Kelsey would take 6 year old Jude. Kelsey now lives in Chicago so this plan would necessitate splitting up the kids. Huh? Terrible idea. You should automatically lose just for suggesting it. Kelsey lives in Chicago, so he is proposing the siblings rarely see each other which is insanity. He also is saying to Mason that no offense, but he would rather live with Jude. Kelsey wins a-hole of the week for the suggestion.
Are the settlement negotiations going so badly that he's got to up the ante so to speak?
ReplyDeleteI'm having a hard time figuring out just why he'd throw that suggestion into the mix, other than to further muddy the water?
Any divorce lawyers with an opinion on this strategy?
I second that A-hole pronouncement! And raise you a Douche-bag supreme.
ReplyDeleteHe wants the boy to go to school in Chicago. Still not a good enough reason to split up the kids.
ReplyDeleteBoth or nothing Kelsey....
ReplyDeletehe was an asshole long before this. it's a shame these 2 reproduced.
ReplyDeleteWhere did he say that, though? I think he's an asshole, sure, but it seems as if you're putting some pretty terrible words in his mouth. It sounds as if each parent thinks they're being more pragmatic when it comes to what the kids need.
ReplyDeleteThe most disturbing anecdote from that US Weekly link was this:
"Jude has repeated kindergarten twice and is now working with tutors so that he can enter first grade this fall"
TWICE? That kid is obviously pretty troubled, or he's got some significant learning disabilities that are being ignored.
Being shuttled between parents totally blows. I've been there. I know a LOT of y'all can empathize. There's no neat and tidy way to work out custody arrangements.
Maybe Jude is his biological child? I dunno, I'm not defending him in any way, but just throwing that out there 'cuz they used a surrogate.
ReplyDeleteHow do you fail kindergarten...I didn't even start school till 1st grade...
ReplyDeleteAsshole of the decade is more appropriate.
ReplyDeleteWait until the daughter gets wind of this(and she will). Nothing destroys a young girl then being publicly and legally rejected by her father.
Just a thought - what if one of the kids is asking to live with Kelsey and the other is happy where they are at? I, thankfully came from a non broken home, but I remember some of my friends even young, were asked if they had a preference to which parent they would live with.
ReplyDelete@MISCH. You fail kindergarten generally when you aren't mature enough for class. My 5 year old was "demoted" from Kinder back to Pre-K, because it was felt that he wasn't mature enough to handle the structure of Kinder.
ReplyDeleteSplitting the kids sounds terrible, but I'm guessing it's more of a negotiating tactic on Kelsey's part. I also like Moxy's thoughts on it... maybe Jude himself is saying he'd like to live with Dad.
The new child bride probably likes the boy better.
ReplyDeletebiggirl1988 said...
ReplyDeleteThe new child bride probably likes the boy better.
agreed. less competition.
those poor kids.
My brother and I lived with different parents after divorce, and i know plenty of other people who did too. I don't think it's all that uncommon, I do think Kelsey is a d'bag in general though.
ReplyDeleteWow. If there's even a hint of truth to this, that he'd be willing to separate two siblings and find it more important that his son is near, I am fucking done professionally with Kelsey Grammar. I think everyone always feels (and I have heard some parents admit) to favoured siblings. But for it to be made so obvious? SHAME ON HIM.
ReplyDeleteIf the kids were old enough to be able to choose, that's one thing. But it sounds to me like this was Kelsey's idea, regardless of how he's justifying it.
This is TRUE. There are documents (TMZ has them) that he was stupid enough to put this in writing! So, he is a Dbag, scumbag, asshole, SOB and every other crappy thing you can think of. Team Camille, I hope she completely kicks his ass in court and keeps those kids together.
ReplyDeleteI assumed the kid wants to live with him and told him so. Maybe the girl is closer to her mom. I don't think Camille should have released the documents to TMZ. I think she already told the daughter though, which means she's pretty wicked.
ReplyDeleteEither way it doesn't matter. The kids will realize the truth at some point. My mom played rough during the divorce, she ended up paying for it years later, when she was over the pain.
Good luck to both these fools.
Why bother. He hasn't raised any of his children has he? Always an absentee.
ReplyDeleteIs there just one adult daughter besides these two?
No wonder "Stinky Pete" stinks so much... Ptooooey! I'm really starting to DISlike Mr. Grammer!
ReplyDeleteI hope both his children give this douchebag up as a father... I cannot believe I am going to say this but... Camille really seems to love and deserve these children more than Kel;sey (I've ne'er seen the RHOBH show...).
Too bad they're not older and can tell the judge where they want to be (I think it's 12 o 13 here in WA, but luckily, I ne'er had to deal with this crap...).
Poor kids, I wish them the best!
I think he has at least one other daughter in between the old on and these two-could be wrong, though. Would the court would even ask a 9 and 6 year old which parent they would rather live with?
ReplyDeleteWhen I was about 7 I had cousins who I would only see at Christmas and they liked to ask me which I liked better, my mom or dad and even though my dad was basically an absentee (sports and taverns-the 70's) father, I remember feeling sorry for him and saying him. I'm glad they weren't lawyers. Living with my father would have been truly awful.
Never thought I'd say this, but I hope Camille gets the kids. The nerve of Kelsey. Just suggesting it has screwed the 9 yr old son up for life. I have lost complete respect for that man. what an unstable loser.
ReplyDeleteThat is utterly outrageous. I cannot imagine splitting sibblings up like that. He's sunk to a new low.
ReplyDeleteMISCH, you can also be retained in Kindergarten if you have are making extremely slow progress in attaining the scholastic basics, if your behavior is such that you are too immature to progress onward, or if you are demonstrating a behavioral problem that the school feels would benefit from being retained. (at least in Texas)
I don't understand the outrage -- It's not like he said he didn't want to see the daughter or be the father to the daughter, just have the son live full time with him, and the daughter full time with the mom. It's appropriate - there can be visitation with the kids and the other parent.
ReplyDeletethe boy has some kind of "issue" right now. he went to kinder twice and he's apparently still not ready to go to first grade. he might think that he will "fix" the issue by concentrating on the son. its a bad idea to seperate sibs, and frankly, repeating kinder for anything but immaturity doesn't do any good.
ReplyDeletei feel bad for these kids. the custody evaluation is BRUTAL. we had ours a year ago this time. the evaluator is in your house, watching you cook, interact with your kids, they talk to the school and your neighbors and friends. really nerve racking. the kids are distracted and put on the spot about their parents and private moments. ugh., makes me fee ill to remember it.
I'm appalled, Kelsey does not have the best history in anything...not raising his first child, jail time, dui's, drug addict, rehab, etc. It would not surprise me if his kids do not want to spend any time with him and his childbride/gold-digger wife. Before all this Camille was a behind the scenes wife and producer of tv shows for their production company, she is the one you see with the kids, not Kelsey.
ReplyDeleteThis is awful but the kids at school probably told the oldest girl, Mason, about her dads wishes. Kids can be mean at school and when a celebrity parent is involved the classmates know from their parents gossiping and spreading rumors, and it just trickles down to the kids, and I imagine some are gleeful about telling the stories, imo.
I'm interested to hear the kids opinion on this proposed arrangement.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be really sad to split up the kids. If Kelsey can only handle one (is he really that busy??), then he maybe should not have them at all, except for visitation. Maybe Camille SHOULD get full custody. My God, look what I'm saying.
@MSH Haha - agreed. After RHOBH, I never thought I'd see the day when I would say, "Camille should get the kids," either.
ReplyDeletesorry *MCH (ahh, my brain is fried from studying for boards)
ReplyDeleteEnty, when you say "split up the children", do you mean lengthwise or across?
ReplyDeleteWouldn't the documents TMZ got have been public record when Camille included them in her filing?
ReplyDelete6 is not so outrageously late to start Gr I; boys especially can have a hard time settling in to classroom discipline. If Grammer is so bent on working on the boy's needs, *he* can move back to L.A. He can certainly afford it.