I swear that I am going to call this stuff saliva one day. It seems that many people had never heard of salvia before pictures of Miley Cyrus smoking it up in a bong appeared last week. Well, now the whole world wants to try the drug. See, Miley? You should have got some money upfront and then smoked it. According to TMZ, sales of the drug have increased up to 300% since Friday and it is all thanks to Miley. The drug, illegal in 15 states, is supposed to be so powerful that once you try it once, you don't usually ever want to try it again. Umm, wouldn't that make you want to do it repeatedly. I thought that was the idea of a drug.
Salvia has been teetering on the brink of being outlawed for a long time, the only thing keeping it legal was the fact that the major media didn't touch it. I'm anti-drug in most ways, but it makes me feel sad to see a natural hallucinogen being outlawed. Salvia has a low abuse threshhold because it is, from most accounts, an unpleasant drug to take. A person sometimes falls to the ground, quivers, hallucinates, then comes out of it quickly. The Erowid Drug Vault has a lot of people's experiences with the drug:
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It is the equivalent to LSD.
ReplyDeleteive heard from multiple friends who have used it that it's like the most intense lsd-like trip for 15 minutes. you often feel like you are lost in space and you can't get 'back.' ive really only heard negative things about it, has put me off from trying it and i've done most things.
ReplyDeleteoh another note, thanks miley, this will really help the WOD.
it's probably not the same thing, but i have a garden full of salvia. i didn't know until this happened that it could be anything other than a hearty, pretty flower.
ReplyDeleteit must be pretty unpleasant if people don't want to do it twice. i kind of felt like that about coke---the coming down part was so nasty, i never understand how anyone could get hooked on it.
i'll stick to pot. :)
I had never heard of it. And no, don´t particularly want to now either!
ReplyDeleteI've tried a few drugs in my life, and there are some that are just unpleasant and you have no desire to do ever again. Pretty much any hallucinogen, for example. I don't think I'd dig this at all.
ReplyDeleteI'm content with my bottle of vodka, thank you very much! :-)
ReplyDeleteAfter I've had absolutely miserable hangovers, I say "I'm never drinking again." But I still do. I've heard everyone of my friends in college and high school say that too. People forget about the aftermath if they just focus on the high.
ReplyDeleteFriends of mine used to do it, but the stories I heard about it scared me off. Sounds too sketchy.
ReplyDeleteMight as well do crack, or suck on a can of duster.
Ha ha ha, this is hilarious because salvia is seriously the worst. Actually, doing salvia is probably the best deterrent for people ever doing drugs. It makes you lose all sense of yourself; when I did it, I watch time go backwards (no, I can't explain it better than that).
ReplyDeleteI am 100% pro-responsible drug use and even I think salvia is a stupid drug. It should be used with intent and thoughtfulness and purpose. If you're just ripping salvia tokes at a party without knowing what you're getting into, I can pretty much guarantee you'd never want to do any kind of drug again.
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ReplyDeleteA friend tried this one and Yahé, it he said it was f*cked up, he had no idea where he was. My friend threw up after that, he said he never wanted to try it again.
ReplyDeleteIt's like I'm walkin' on sunshine!
ReplyDeleteJFC. People are such sheep.
ReplyDeletethis is what happens when you take salvia and i would never do it myself. as someone who smokes weed on the regular....never, no thank you. insta-crackhead!
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ok, i don't get the reference to 'fucking idiot americans.'
ReplyDeleteis that really necessary? there are fucking idiots all over the planet, dickwipe.
i only took LSD once but it wasn't because i didn't like it. i would've done it again given the chance. had a BALL.
this sounds way too intense for me. i'm glad it wasn't around when i was trying things---i'm sure i would've done it.
I still believe that she was actually smoking weed. The way she behaves in that video seems to confirm it isn't salvia. Her PR people just claim it was salvia because it is still legal, but have probably shot themselves in the foot with that one.
ReplyDeleteI had only heard about salvia on Dr Phil before so I kind of assumed it was bullshit. Like that Wormwood shite they sell you at music festivals in England.
ReplyDelete@Tallulah: I agree with you. Why is everyone taking her word on this without the slightest bit of skepticism?
ReplyDeleteYou mean that purple plant that's always leftover at Lowe's is the same one that you can roll up and smoke? The things I learn from this site...
ReplyDeleteWhy are people so stupid with this stuff? I don't like being fucked up at all. The one time I had an LSD trip, I wasn't even on LSD...it was on a prescription drug that mimicked it, minus the hallucinating. I'll never understand why people want to screw themselves up on this shit. For a one minute high? No thanks!
@Tallulah and Princess Pine: ITA!
ReplyDeleteI like the comment from "d" a lot because it demontrates he wondrous spiritual qualities that drug abuse have brought into d's life. Gosh, a soul as advanced and beautiful as yours, I feel almost bad sullying the world with my existence, d!
ReplyDeleteAs a fucking idiot American I would like to thank d for his thoughtful exhibition of his spiritual superiority.
ReplyDeleteI know lots of fucking idiot Canadians, if that helps.
ReplyDeleteIt was weed though, right? I think she was smoking weed.
ReplyDelete"Fucking idiot Americans. There's a reason you all have bad experiences..."
ReplyDeleteIt's already been sort of said by other posters, d, but I wanted to chime in and say it, too: fuck a bunch of you.
Okay. Not that we have *that* out of the way, I also wanted to say that, other than weed, I've really only dabbled in psychedelics in my life. LSD was TERRIBLE, but DMT was AMAZING. I doubt you'd find too many people who've done DMT who wouldn't try it again at least once.
Salvia sounds like DMT's more ominous -- yet legal -- cousin. And it doesn't shock me that sales have skyrocketed. Sorry, but Miley looked like she was having pure, idiotic stoner fun in that video.
But yeah, Enty, I'm with you. That kind of description would only make me want it even more, not less.
@ Tallulah,
ReplyDeleteI agree 100%. She was smoking weed and got caught, but they can call it Salvia and be OK since its legal in CA.
i watched a few videos on youtube of people using Salvia and holy cats batman, it looked like some crazy stuff! i've never tried drugs because i'm a big scaredy cat, but that is one i will NOT be trying! BUT i don't think my fellow Americans are effing idiots for trying it either!
ReplyDeleteit's weed not salvia, and its getting on my nerves now. Saying it was salvia is like using the "nutmeg" excuse. Looka t the videos of people smoking salvia vs. hers. Its fricken obvious.
ReplyDeleteI think it might depend on how it's ingested. I smoked salvia in college and after 1 joint it had a very pleasant, mild hallucinogenic effect. It was like weed + fun patterns moving on the ceiling. Nothing scary, nothing too wild.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, my friend took it in another form and had a crazy trip. I don't know exactly what he did to the plant but the end result was a wad of wet leaves that he tucked behind his lip like a pinch of snuff. It made him drool a lot.
Of course, this was salvia that the friend grew and dried, etc, himself. So that may account for the differences in experience.
But...but....I've smoked some good pot in my life, and it NEVER had an immediate effect on me - giggling and imagining boyfriends the way Miley did within SECONDS of smoking whatever that was. What *did* occur to me is that she might have been faking the whole thing.
ReplyDeleteAnd just to offer a differing opinion as to what "d" might have meant by "fucking idiot Americans" - maybe he/she meant the ones who ran out to buy this stuff just because Miley did it? Or "sheep", as shiny-special_one. said?
@ d & Barton Fink - You BOTH are a couple of self righteous jackwagons. I can see the good in both of your points, but you both represent the nasty fucking extremes on either side. Both of you, go to the corner and don't come out. Please.
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I tried Salvia once. That shit is horrible. DMT is pretty bad, also. I'll stick to my Sour Diesel & Pabst Blue Ribbon, thank you very much. : )
And that was totally some high grade greens Miley was smoking. Probably AK-47. You get wacky off of that stuff.
God, just caught a few clips of salvia trips and it seems a common feeling is that of one's "face melting"... FUN!!
ReplyDeleteYou can buy salvia at any nursery, just not THAT salvia. The one Miley is supposedly using costs around $300.00 a plant, not $5.00 at the local Home Depot. I have lots of salvia in my garden because hummingbirds love the flowers.
ReplyDelete@Fink and others:
ReplyDeleteI'll stand by my comments. They come from my disgust at seeing drugs completely misused by people who then go on to detail how "scary" said drugs are.
The only thing scary about these drugs is the ignorance with which their taken. You'd condemn someone for taking such a cavalier attitude with something like chemo medications. I fail to see the difference.
There are a lot of drugs out there, and most of them, even the unprescribed ones, aren't just for "kicks". If you think other wise, and are an American, guess what that makes you?
@Sue
That does help. I've never been to Canada, but if they have a drug culture like ours, then the moniker is accurate.
That bong hit we saw her take probably wasn't her first one of the smoke sesh, it was just the beginning of the taping by her dick friend thus the audience assumes it was her first hit which made her crazyyYyyyYy as soon as she exhaled.
ReplyDelete@d
ReplyDeleteWe don't. We're a lot cooler about drugs than America is. IMO
Also, that really wasn't directed at you. It was mostly to help take the sting out of your slightly questionable comment about fucking idiot Americans. Perhaps you are one, too?
@Sue
ReplyDeleteI liked the sting. One of my major buttons is the two faced nature of the Drug Conversation in this country.
Look, I technically have no problem with someone who wants to use a drug, any drug, recreationally. You want to take chemo drugs and "party"? Be my guest. But don't go talk about the horrible effects of the drug you just misused.
As for me, I'm not much of a drug person (I don't even drink), but then again, everyone has a little idiot in them from time to time. It just pays a lot to have more respect for these substances, and what they are capable of.
@d - Have a little tact, man. It goes a long way. I retract my calling you a self righteous jackwagon.
ReplyDeleteI feel like I got to the party too late.
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ReplyDeleteAll I know is this: I'm not going to let a person who cannot differentiate between "there"/"they're"/and "their" call ME a fucking idiot.
ReplyDelete@nunaurbiz - Amen, sister!
ReplyDeleteLOL @ some of the commenters on this post. :)
Whether or not you agree that this spit sounding drug is bad or not, it's pretty bad what they are reporting. If it ends up being pot, I will laugh. Regardless, she was videotaped doing something she probably shouldn't have been. Not too smart there "Miley Montana"! (as Craigy Ferg called her the other day).
@ Nancer,,,,totally agree.
ReplyDelete@ d....go to own fucking country if the conversations are not to your liking. Get the fuck out!
I agree with the people who think she was smoking pot. She's just covering up with a "legal" excuse, and now a bunch of morons are rushing out to try the same thing. (I'm not saying anyone who's tried it is a moron, I'm saying anyone who rushed out to try it because Miley was doing it is a moron).
ReplyDeleteYeah, it's growing in my yard too. The things I learn here! And do we really need politicians spending more money to legislate anything? Don't we have enough laws?? Seriously, it's pretty obvious most people are operating on a sixth grade education at best. You can't legislate stupid. Miley better start choosing her friends more wisely.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHA. Salvia is not a big deal. Like, at all.
ReplyDeleteI've taken it about half a dozen times. I have friends who have done it more. Yes, it's more powerful than weed, slightly hallucinatory, but none of us had negative experiences. It does make you trip a little. The reason people don't do salvia more than once or twice is because it lasts for five minutes, it's not worth the money, and weed is better.
The experiences that were described to me were one friend talking to animated characters on his mantle and another friend just rolled around on the floor laughing for ten minutes. When I did it I felt like I floated out of my body and I couldn't stop giggling. Our feet felt like they weren't touching the floor so we were walking around the house softly stomping. Stationary objects appeared to shift around a bit. Life was just surreal and hilarious. I should do some salvia and spend my five minutes laughing at those here who thinks it's some terrible and dangerous drug. Salvia is mostly just a waste of time and cash, but it's not evil.
Anyway, you wouldn't do salvia out of a bong either, so Miley, just admit you were SMOKING POT. You were totally smoking the ganj. There's nothing wrong with it, girl! Don't be ashamed.
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ReplyDeleteAlso, dead giveaway: the guy in the background digging into a box of Frosted Flakes, dry, at about the 2:30 mark.
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