Tuesday, November 09, 2010
Today's Blind Items - MV
Well, if it is anniversary time, then it must be time for an MV clue. I don't know if I have mentioned this before, but should something happen to me, there is a list of all the answers so all would be revealed. Anyway, lets see if we can't get this down to just a few people with this clue. Either our singer or someone she has been married to has had a nickname or a hyphenation in their nickname.
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ReplyDeleteAnother clue pointing towards J Lo?
ReplyDeleteReally, it could be anyone but I think it's J Lo.
It has to be JLo, right?
ReplyDeleteEnty, you crack me up. I'm loving these pre-New Year's reveals!
ReplyDeleteI say reveal because this clue might as well be one. ;)
Or if it is Britney, she was married to KFed.
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ReplyDeletePuff pastry = jlo for the win
ReplyDeleteEnty, you bring such laughter, joy and appropriate intolerance to my life I hope you live longer than all the BI subjects.
ReplyDeleteIt is really fucking galling that this twat is judging American Idol.
ReplyDeleteSkeletor is a nicknme? On his Imbd page it says his nickname is "skinny"...
ReplyDeleteEnty, if there is a master list, who then will post it if something happens to you?
MV is J-Lo
IMDB oops!
ReplyDeleteummm i read every day. how did i miss MV? who or what is MV???
ReplyDeleteJ-Lo. She is the only one that has ever stuck with me because her producer had a lot to lose if this came out, and that made me think of Puffy.
ReplyDeleteI've been On the Six with JLo for while.
ReplyDelete..and JLo sounds like a bag of wet cats when she sings live.
ReplyDeleteJenny-From-The-Block! =)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the jlo clue. Moxy - MV is one of the bigger blinds, along with coke mom, that has yet to be revealed.
ReplyDeleteIf I knew how to do clickable links, I'd do that. But here is one you can copy and paste:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search/label/MV
Lol Cheryl. Me, too.
ReplyDeleteOkay we all agree that the two most likely candidates are Britney and J.Lo - both have been with guys with nicknames, Ent! This gets us nowhere!
@Cheryl - you've heard her sing live?? I've NEVER heard her sing live. I didn't know she could!
ReplyDeleteooohhh man...it's really J.lo or at least I think this kind of confirms it. Now, why will it "shake the industry up to its core"?
ReplyDeleteI do agree that it definitely points towards J-Lo or Britney. I still maintain that that makes this a non-scandal, since it's no secret that Britney has other women singing "with" her (some of them have been named and interviewed)...and if it's J-Lo, if she was going to go through all this trouble, why not hire someone who could actually sing? The vocals on her records sound like crap. Actually, a lot of the singing on Britney's records is pretty bad too, not to mention autotuned to hell. I was under the impression that "S" was a really great singer.
ReplyDeletei still say Britney.....K Fed!
ReplyDeleteHmm. Would JLo being fake really rock the music industry?
ReplyDeleteAlso - from the original blind
"MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows, commercials..EVERYWHERE"
Was JLo in commercials?
(sorry if this has already been brought up - I'd forgotten all about this one.
"I'm Real" JLo? I don't think it's a travesty she's a "judge" on AI - I think it's appropriate. She knows how a voice will sound with autotune. I think Steven Tyler is the fish out of water. I picture him falling asleep as people sing the sappy songs they usually choose. They need more Bo Bices to shake things up.
ReplyDeleteWhatever happened to Bo, anyway?
I'm going with J-Ho...and her ex is P-WhoTheEffCares....
ReplyDeleteListening to her speaking voice is enough to make me want to grab my two beers and make a grand escape..
If someone can make Kim Z. (Tardy for the Party [Although more like Tardy for Life]) sound remotely decent...we all have a chance if we want to check our dignity at the door...
Ouch, @dignity....man, typos get out of control....
ReplyDeleteI agree HH, I thought the singer, "S" was really good...I never thought any of JLo's stuff was good.
ReplyDeleteAmen, TinselSass!
ReplyDeleteOK - in the original blind (here is the rehash -sorry its not clickable):
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2009/11/happy-anniversary-and-todays-blind.html
Enty says that "This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day.."
I thought the "light of day" kind of stood out as awkward and Jlo has a song "Brave" that includes the lyric "light of day." Of course, so does Bruce Springsteen.
Interesting. I still have it down to the same 2 people and neither of them are JLo or Britney. MV goes farther back when "fake" was unheard of- before Milli Vanilli.
ReplyDeleteI thought I had the answer until Enty posted something that later contradicted it. Maybe that was meant to throw us off or to protect MV. Lol... Anyway, I've dissected and took his blind line by line and this new info still doesn't lead me to the answer.
I agree with all the others who have said that S is supposed to be a really good singer. JLo's music has never really been about her having a good voice. Ballads haven't really been her strong suit. I've always leaned toward MV being Shaina Twain, even though she doesn't exactly fit the clues. Her ex-husband's name is Mutt, though. Surely that must be a nickname. Shaina's songs are all about the vocals.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Xtina?
ReplyDeleteThat would certainly rock the music world to its core seeing as she has been branded as the only pop star with strong vocals...
Ms Cool...I currently have a major BruceHead in my house...please don't encourage him...
ReplyDeleteif i remember correctly the original blind said that MV toured a lot and back when this blind came out, j lo never toured. plus at the time people actually liked brittney and thought said was talented. i go with brit-brit.
ReplyDelete@memyselfandi = Xtina was never separated/divorced until last month, and that was an MV clue a long awhile back
ReplyDeletewhat is supposed to happen to you? really. surely, this isn't narrowing down any clues, just keeps these circular guesses going round and round. indeed, all will be revealed, so that you can become disbarred because your identity is revealed while lying in a coma because men in suits hunted you down? uh huh.
ReplyDeleteI agree with other posters, neither of their voices (JLo or Brit Brit) on records is that amazing. Plus we recently heard 'lost' studio footage of J Lo singing 'Enough is Enough' which sounded EXACTLY like the voice on her records (with some pitch issues, easily fixed by auto tune), so I don't know if it's JLo (though it reads like it is) but honestly, if it's either one of them, I don't think it would be a scandal now because neither is that the height of their fame.
ReplyDeleteI have a singer friend who 'ghost sings' for a couple of Disney stars, so this is actually fairly common practice. Nothing surprises me anymore. The entertainment industry is less about talent than people would expect, so a lie like this would simply be par for the course (at least in my mind).
Not that I want it to be, but "Madonna" is certainly a nickname, odd that none of you mentioned it.
ReplyDeleteChristina A would certainly rock the music business, but she sings live too often for this to be her.
J.Lo did do commercials - perfume - and all that other stuff.
@RJ - Enty already confirmed that MV was born in the USA. Shania was born in Canada.
ReplyDeleteIn fact he did that right after Shania seemed to be the predominate guess, so I think that was directly to eliminate Shania as a possibility.
@Wonder - why be cryptic about it? Why not say who you think it is, if not JLo?
Until proven otherwise, this is definitely JLo for me. I might be bias because I really cannot stand her.
Well, if Enty ever gets whacked, we'll have the motive.
ReplyDelete@Dawn - I believe Madonna is her real name.
ReplyDeletewhat about madonna? she's got the nick name (madge). divorced. toured.
ReplyDeletethough i don't think madonna was ever hard up for cash.
idk just throwing it out there.
i want to say jlo/britney, but would anyone really care/be surprised if they weren't really singing on her records?
I'm old enough to remember a video of Madonna singing live (Dress You Up?) and it was most certainly her singing. Not great, but it was her. She has always had a weak voice.
ReplyDeleteI believe the reason we narrowed it down to Britney and J.Lo was based on Enty's clues about her album sales and which album was bigger (I think her second?) and the years that everything exploded for MV - it led directly to those two, they were both everywhere. And though it wouldn't be shocking to us (cynics) NOW, it would have shocked everyone THEN to learn that someone else was doing the singing.
ReplyDeleteThe reason I'm (mostly)on the J.Lo team is because Enty described MV as a royal BITCH to S. when he had the two in his office. I just don't think Britney's a bitch. Bitch.
ReplyDeleteJ.Lo, on the other hand...
If you check the MV lable on the blog, you will find other hints......
ReplyDeleteBut doesn't the original blind mention, if memory serves, that this ghost singer had chops galore? Like, she could really blow and since Brittney nor JLo are known for their prowess with the vocal chords, I can't imagine anyone who had a major voice ghosting for them unless there's an unauto tune button that we don't know about which make someone with the pipes of Whitney (pre-pipe)sound like a long tailed cat in room of rocking chairs.
ReplyDeleteChar, I forgot all about that clue. Thanks for reminding me. I knew that Shania had been ruled out for some reason, but couldn't remember why.
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing Britney. I think most of us know JLo never could sing. Finding out Britney was a phony would totally shake up the music industry. Then again, perhaps someone has actually heard her sing live and can vouch that that is her voice. If so, then of course I'd have to go with JLo.
ReplyDeleteNobody has ever heard J Lo sing live. I'm pretty sure she has an auto tune machine in her shower.
ReplyDeleteI take back my Britney guess. All it took was 1 minute of research:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X45RnIHpqNs
MadLyb, regarding Britney that's a cutesy singing voice. Contrived with inflictions.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ilIfOI8fc&feature=related
ReplyDeleteIf this clip is to believed, amazing things can happen at concerts. Who knew?
I think it's Brit. Pre-mental disorder, I can see her totally being uncouth towards others in her younger, old man's fantasy, days.
ReplyDeleteJ-Lo is no shock.
Was Mimi ruled out?
ReplyDeleteI'm a bit with Bubbles here...I recall that the reveal would likely shock us; not someone totally lame and obviously non-singing-in-real-life-anyway hack like JLo or Britney.
ReplyDeleteThis woman has to be a legend. She has to be someone would deem a fraud...you know the type that has been singing since the '70s or '80s. Britney and JLo don't cut it because people already think they are horrible singers...I'm thinking more along the lines of Cher, Whitney, Celine, Mariah, Natalie Cole etc.
ReplyDeleteNot sure who exactly but think of 80s singers w/diva reputations
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ReplyDeleteAlso, props to Rocket Queen's astute observations above...
ReplyDeleteHmmmmm...!
I have been conflicted on this one from day 1!
It seems like it would have to be JLo or Britney but then go back & read the previous MV entries (like Hello Kitty) suggests & it just doesn't make as much sense....
ReplyDeleteThat said, I have no idea.
Hmmm....
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ReplyDeleteI have been thinking it's Whitney. It would definitely rock the industry to its core and she's been around for a while. Now, her "voice" is gone due to drugs...what if it wasn't? I can say I saw Toni Braxton in concert and were it not for the fact that she is not "big," I would have said her. She's not good live...AT. ALL.
ReplyDeleteJanet Jackson?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, MV can't be J-Lo because she's done songs with other artists. I figure that'd be hard to do if someone was singing for her. Considering Enty said that only three people know of this, there's no way it's J-Lo.
ReplyDeleteI don't listen to Britney Spears near enough to know if she has done a song with someone, but I'm guessing she has.
They can say that JLo recorded the track in the studio on her own and will return to correct and re-record.
ReplyDeleteI think it *could be* Jlo because of the amount of people involved with her Puffy and the other rappers and producers
Brit-Brit married to K-Fed. Simples
ReplyDeleteDo people really believe this is a REAL blind? What kind of _lawyer_ would talk in public about _lawyer_ / _client_ business? This can't be real. A professional lawyer simply wouldn't do it. This must be "entertainment" gossip, designed to give people a pretend topic to make them happy talking to each other.
ReplyDeleteThere are plenty of examples of both JLO and Britney singing live on youtube. Britney actually has a good voice, JLO not so much. If it has to be one of them I lean toward brit- brit because the blind says MV can sing.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if there's not someone we aren't thinking of.
Was Whitney ruled out? I can't remember.
ReplyDeleteOne of last years clues listed 3 And It Aints. I think they were:
ReplyDeleteMandy Moore
Pink
Beyonce
All are born late 70s, early-mid 80s. Britney falls within this group. J.Lo is at least a decade older.
Do you think the clue implied that MV is within the age range of the others (Britney) or was Ent telling us that it is someone older (J-LO)?
In terms of shock value, Britney might be more surprising because she is known as a singer first, J-Lo more so known for dancing and acting.
All of the MV clues with dates they were posted:
ReplyDelete11/9/10- Either our singer or someone she has been married to has had a nickname or a hyphenation in their nickname.
11/13/09- MV was born in the United States.
11/12/09- MV has been separated (real separation and not just kicking the guy out for a couple of days) and/or divorced at least once.
11/11/09- MV has at least one child.
11/10/09- MV ain't Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, Beyonce.
11/9/09- MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD's. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30's
11/9/09- MV has been or is currently married.
11/27/06- Someone who knows MV, but does not know about the S situation told me this morning that MV was contemplating an in depth interview to address some issues in her personal and professional life. Could this be one of the issues?
11/26/06- Original MV story, in which we learn that S. is a backup singer who was tricked into recording all of the albums, "live" concerts, etc. for MV, who has sold millions of albums and sold out tours. (MV- Milli Vanilli)
The clues fit both Britney and JLo pretty perfectly- it could be either of them, although I certainly am leaning more towards JLo, mainly because MV was bitchy to S, her secret singer, because of the way that S looks. I don't think Britney is bitchy- she's sad, lonely, and mentally ill, but I've never heard that she is bitchy.
ReplyDeleteJLo, on the other hand, is a Bitch.
After reading all the clues. It either has to be Britney or JLo. I guess the only way this could be looked at as rocking the music world is the fact that Britney has made millions upon millions of dollars (according to her divorce docs, she brings in $750,000 + a month in royalties alone).
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that doesn't make sense is Britney was never looked at as a strong vocal artist and neither has JLo.
If it weren't for the "has at least one child" part, I'd be all over Mariah Carey in a heartbeat. I can't jump on the Britney or J-Lo trains, neither of them would rock the entertainment world enough, nor do they have the vocals to be it. I have to think its someone with real singing power that would blow us all away.
ReplyDelete*still thinking*
I'm on the Madonna train. It's completely Madonna and I'm banking it for the most foolish of all reasons: in the original MV blind, there's a picture of an audience crowd and it looks like it was taken from a live concert event Madonna "sang" at ages ago. I forget what the event was called, but I remember she wore all white.
ReplyDeletePS No way it's Whitney, she sang the heck out of the National Anthem live.
Oh yeah, I'm still also convinced Paula Abdul is another MV. Humph.
ReplyDeleteMadonna's Ray of Light lyrics...Hmmmm.....
ReplyDeleteMadonna
Ray Of Light
Zephyr in the sky at night I wonder
do my tears of mourning
sink beneath the sun
She's got herself a universe
gone quickly
For the call of thunder, threatens everyone
Chorus
And I feel like I just got home and I feel
And I feel like I just got home and I feel
Faster than the speeding light she's flying
trying to remember where it all began
she's got herself a little piece of heaven
waiting for the time when earth shall be as one
Chorus
Quicker than a Ray of Light
Quicker than a Ray of Light
Quicker than a Ray of Light
Zephyr in the sky at night
I wonder do my tears of mourning
sink beneath the sun
she's got herself a universe gone quickly
for the call of thunder, threatens everyone
And I feel
Quicker than a Ray of Light
then gone for
someone else shall be there
She's got herself a universe
She's got herself a universe
She's got herself a universe
And I feel, and I feel, and I feel
like I just got home
Quicker than a Ray of Light
She's flying
Quicker than a Ray of Light
She's flying
I'm starting with the presumption that we can't really trust Enty's timeline; that it was deliberately fudged so as to make the blind less obvious. I'm also presuming that Enty's description of events aside from the timeline is fairly accurate (IOW he's not exaggerating MV's popularity, for example). I also don't know much about the country music industry, so I may be missing a whole lot of possibilities there.
ReplyDeleteexplicitly ruled out by Enty: Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, Beyonce
based on clues, definitely not:
Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Paula Abdul, Christina Aguilera,
Ashanti, Alicia Keyes, Avril Lavine, Amy Winehouse,
Alanis Morissette, Sinead O'Connor, Shania Twain,
Aaliyah, Belinda Carlisle, Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, Jewel,
Janet Jackson (although she's rumored to have had a child, we don't really know),
Kelly Clarkson, Jessica Simpson, Ashlee Simpson, LeAnn Rimes,
Dolly Parton, Lindsey Lohan, Hilary Duff, Sheryl Crow, Mary J. Blige,
Shakira, Vanessa Carlton, Michelle Branch, Nelly Furtado, Cyndi Lauper
ruled out only because I can't think of a nickname (maybe I'm missing something):
Faith HIll, Natalie Cole, Donna Summer,
Cher (although her stage name technically is already a nickname),
Aretha Franklin (talk about rocking the music industry!),
Toni Braxton (also she announced her separation in Nov. 2009, so Enty would have to have been right on top of her with that clue),
Paula Cole (but she started out with Peter Gabriel, so highly unlikely anyway)
not definitely ruled out:
Whitney Houston (would her family nickname "Nippy" count?),
Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Madonna
Of these, hands down the most shocking would be Whitney. And this story would go a long way towards explaining the way her musical output slowed to a crawl and the quality of her live performances plummeted. But Whitney started out singing in church and a lot of big industry people were treated to private shows by her before her debut album was released to bump up anticipation. Way too many people would know if that wasn't her voice. (Although her famous rendition of the national anthem during the first Gulf War WAS lip-synched. Hmmm...)
ReplyDeleteBritney would also be shocking, certainly not for the quality of her singing but the extent of and the sheer number of people who would have to be involved in the fraud, including her parents. She also hasn't even pretended to sing live in so long and her last couple albums basically featured her voice being manipulated to the point of nonrecognition anyway, which would explain what happened when S dropped out of the picture.
I don't think J Lo would be shocking except for the sheer audacity of it, but the real problem with the J Lo guess is that she didn't really tour after her first couple albums, she just did a tiny handful of shows/appearances. She's only toured once, after she married Skeletor, and that was after Enty posted this blind when presumably S was out of the picture for good. So a J Lo fraud would not involve "hundreds of concerts around the world."
Madonna would be shocking, again not for the quality of her voice but just in such contrast with her always-in-charge, this-is-who-I-am-fuck-you-if-you-don't-like-it image. Not to mention the sheer longevity of her career. The problem with this guess is if we're talking about her first few albums, her voice was really shit then so this whole scheme makes no sense. What would make more sense is if this happened later in her career, say around Bedtime Stories/Evita/Ray of Light when her voice drastically improved, reportedly from her work with a vocal coach. But the problem with that scenario is Madonna is such a control freak about her product I can't imagine this being orchestrated by one of her producers. Not only would she be in on it from the get go, but there would be no money issues. Madonna keeps her shit tight and I can't imagine she would ever risk something like this coming out, or leaving some stooge in charge of her finances so that there's no money left to keep S paid off. Also, even with her improved vocals, Madonna still sounded like her old self, only more polished. And a lot of her studio demos have leaked onto the internet, and there are so many examples of her singing live at various performances and on tour with her weak voice anyway. It just don't add up.
So if I were betting I'd go with Whitney 3-1 or Britney 2-1.
I remembe the first MV post. I have had 2 kids since then, jeeze.
ReplyDeleteI always thought this was Madonna.
The only reason I come here on a daily basis is: MV, Coke Mom and HIV+ pop star.......(which by the way Enty has hidden completely! Why?! 2007 blind)
ReplyDeleteEnty please reveal at least one of these!
lafawnduh... the hiv singer was revealed it was a german (or at least euro) girl with long dark curly hair i dont remember her name but it was a huge scandal and i think she narrowly escaped charges of infecting others
ReplyDeleteIs Madonna known as a strong singer? I don't think so. Sure, she makes money, but she also would have paid the background singer.
ReplyDeleteAlso the other singer has a voice. Madonna doesn't really have a voice that is notable.
However, here is something to ponder: Has this issue been resolved with the background singer? If not, this singer would no longer be recording. So maybe we should be thinking of someone that hasn't released an album in many years. See, Shania would fit for this, except that she was born in Canada.
If I remember correctly, we were thinking about who sounded "different" on their releases.
I'm thinking J-Lo because I view her as more of a bitch than Brit. However, Britney can sing as she was on the Mickey Mouse club and Star Search. Every live J-Lo performance sucked.
I liked the Toni Braxton guess ... I originally was thinking someone in the Celine, Mariah or Christina level of singer, but all of them have performed live much too frequently.
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ReplyDeleteDidn't Enty mention at one point he knew exactly who the real singer was referring to when she described the man providing the $? Maybe it was Stein who is a music mogul who wore his hair in tight gray curls? I think he signed Madonna.
ReplyDeleteWhat would motivate Whitney to do all this? She already had a successful modeling career didn't she? Now Madonna on the other hand...she was desperate.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, and this should have been said first and foremost:
ReplyDeleteEnty, BLESS YOU for considering us and not leaving us left to wonder. That is such an incredibly thoughtful and considerate thing to arrange for us. By the way, would the best blind item of all also be revealed? The who is Enty blind??? ;) X O X O
Does anyone remember back to the special hint that to a certain point MV had not yet made an appearance on CDAN? That may answer the blind for us once and for all if we could figure out what date that was and who of these few have/not made an appearance. Ok, back to searching for clues now.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone needs reminding of just how bad Madonna's vocals were early in her career, just revisit some of the clips from her first tour--and remember, this is the cleaned up concert show that was filmed for the VHS release. They didn't even include all the songs from the show in the video release because some just sounded so bad. Start here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIXcfGnnvWc&feature=related
ReplyDeleteDo those vocals sound like they came from someone who already had made a good living as a backup/commercial singer? If this were S, she'd keep quiet out of sheer embarrassment!
The only way this is Madonna is if we're talking about later in her career, i.e. when she was hoping for serious recognition for Evita. Even then I still say so much of it doesn't add up. Madonna hasn't been beholden to her record label since her second album--I just don't see any scenario where there isn't enough money to go around to keep S quiet and keep up the charade. And it's not like Madonna has slowed down in the slightest since Enty posted this blind and S is supposedly out of the picture.
ChasingHeaven said:
ReplyDeleteWhat would motivate Whitney to do all this? She already had a successful modeling career didn't she?
I'm not 100% on the Whitney train for the reasons I said above, but she was selected, assembled, primped and primed for about 2-3 years by her record label before her 1st album came out. She was so ridiculously perfect it was if she'd been manufactured by a guaranteed superstar factory. And if you want to be an international superstar and you already have the pedigree she has, you'd choose singer over model any day.
But then again I just can't get past her exposure to the biggest R&B producers/acts in the business long before her album came out. She recorded a duet with Teddy Pendergrass. Her mother was a well respected gospel singer and her cousin is Dionne Warwick. There is just too much potential risk and embarrassment involved for way too many important people in faking her over-the-top superhuman voice. And I don't care how supposedly "ugly" S may be, if she has that voice, she'd have gotten a record deal.
Lets not forget "S" suffered from breast cancer....
ReplyDeleteand this hint hidden in comment section of a prev post:
ent lawyer said...(11/21/06)
" I never said she was not from NYC, and never said she was. I simply said she came to my office. Where had she been for the years prior. I do not remember saying.
Also, you are right about the billable hours. I generally try and bill about 7 a day, six days a week and this month has been a LOT lower."
I like Alicia Keys, Britney Spears or X-tina.
ReplyDeleteI take back Britney; just like JLo she has hardly come close to being viewed as a great singer (unlike Alicia or Xtina).
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ReplyDeleteAnyone famous before 1999 (@ the very earliest) would seem to be an obvious exclusion, ie Madonna or Whitney Houston. (Sorry for the multiple posts :) - scattered thoughts.)
ReplyDeleteIt's Beyonce. The spouse is Jay-Z.
ReplyDeleteClue 1: "rock the music world" matthew knowles' record label is Music World Entertainment
Clue 2: the singer didn't know about it. I suspect daddy knowles did this without b's knowledge, due to the fact that around the time "crazy in love" or "dangerously in love" or whatever the album was, beyonce was doing a TON of stuff and probably didn't have time to spend in the studio to get the vocals to sound as good as they had to.
Clue 3: listen to that album and the newer "I am . . . " side by side. it is obviously different singers. I don't think someone's voice can "mature" that much. It's v. similar, but the first album the womans voice is better.
Clue 4: ent said not that many people guessed it correctly, so forget the popular guesses. also in the first time the blind was posted, someone said it was beyonce and mentioned something about a girl who sang back up on an usher song and her voice sounded eerily similar to beyonces.
Case closed!
So Enty continues beating a dead horse with this fake blind? I do realize it's also Enty's milk cow but feels like cruelty to animals either way to me.
ReplyDeleteIt can't be JLo: she first released a song in 1999: the original blind states that this all began in late 2000, so the first song/s were probably released at the very end of 2000 or early 2001...
ReplyDeleteProduct Pixie: Enty admitted fudging the dates somewhat to keep it vague.
ReplyDeleteBlind item from the other day - SOLVED!
ReplyDelete(I was so wrong about this one)
Exclusive: John Mayer's Steamy Hookup with Giada De Laurentiis!
http://www.starmagazine.com/john_mayer_giada_de_laurentiis/news/17556
@PILTFU enty said it's not Beyonce and that MV has at least one child.
ReplyDeleteI am still on the J-Ho train, but it's her over BritBrit because of the bitch clause.
ReplyDeleteIt's either JLo, Brit Brit or Madge.
ReplyDelete@Revali - Enty said that the German singer was NOT the singer in the BI who's HIV+ (I'm too lazy to find the link). My bet is still Amy Winehouse. At first I wanted it to be revealed, but now I'd rather it not, since it's private information.
I feel like it has to be someone who will blow us all away. Why do I recall Enty saying MV also did a major cosmetics ad?
ReplyDeleteBrit and JLo sing like they sing with help. Xtina has the chops, proven at a young age when she was on a local morning show in FLA. Cher sings like Cher. Shania sang for years at a resort in Canada and there are clips. I thought Toni Braxton did broadway - how could they fake her singing?
So for me, for it to be someone to blow me away would have to be Whitney, Celine or Beyonce.
To borrow a phrase from Ted C, MV ain't:
ReplyDeleteMandy Moore
Pink
Norah Jones
Beyonce
http://www.starmagazine.com/john_mayer_giada_de_laurentiis/news/17556
ReplyDeleteBI reveal?? About the chef and John Mayer?
@phoebeS: celine isn't US born.
ReplyDeleteanyone have the link to the HIV blind?
@Mark
ReplyDeleteI have worked for three very big law firms. I can't tell you how many times we'd get notifications from HR telling the lawyers to stop talking about business (full names, details) in public elevators, on the subways, in the PATH. For people who are supposed to be so concerned with confidentiality, lawyers yap a lot more than you'd think.
i have to agree with mark, something's off. if only 2 or 3 people know about these arrangements/contracts/pay offs, this blog owner's cover should have been blown by now.
ReplyDeleteblind item reveals are done twice a year for crying out loud. this would be a perfect way for a mucho, powerful singer to get back at him for even doing the MV blind. out him.
imho, i'm thinking this blind is folklore.
Wow. I totally had Rachel Ray for the Mayer hookup. I wonder if Enty will do a post on Giada and John
ReplyDeleteThe timing, 2000, fits J-Lo the best.
ReplyDelete@Kim: HR managers gossip, too!
ReplyDeleteI was appalled when the one for my company (luckily, not for my division), talked loudly and openly about people with her office door open.
Also, to the people who think this is Madonna, what is Sean Penn's or Guy Ritchie's nickname supposed to be?
Oh, and happy belated anniversary, Enty! I've been lurking on an off since February of 2007. I love that you keep spammers off this site, and I love that fair-weather readers get disheartened and leave angrily when not *all* of the BIs are revealed each January and July. Keeps you to us hardcore fans to ourselves.
OMG everyone - IT IS NOT JLO. J Lo's singing voice sounds exactly like her speaking voice - the woman can't carry a tune to save her life. The blind was about how 'S' voice was so good and that's how this person because a hit. J Lo's singing voice sucks on her tracks, on her album, live, on the radio...all over.
ReplyDeleteSame with Madonna - her singing voice sounds an awful lot like her regular speaking voice. Go back and listen to her first few albums, you can hear it.
I think MV is someone who used to have a great career but then it stalled about S stopped singing for her. Britney is the only person that really fits all the clues for me.
@janele
ReplyDeleteNo kidding. Some of the HR people I've dealt with really need to learn how to zip it. Ironic because they get a lot of confidentiality training too. I've done the courses and got the degree but decided on another career path.
Faith Hill still my pref. "Tim" is a nickname, he was born Samuel, and Tim is the nickname version of his middle name. The blind says it just has to be a nickname not a nickname with a hyphen.
ReplyDeleteI thought Brit Brit was taken off the list for MV. Anyone else remember reading that it wasn't her?
ReplyDeleteLeaning towards Whitney. 2000 is the year she really started to fall apart. Being fired from the Academy Awards, missing R & R HOF, etc. Then in 2001 signs a $100 million deal with Arista.
ReplyDeleteThat Beyonce clip was found to be a fake ages ago and the kid who did it said it was a joke, so it isn't her.
ReplyDeleteSorry folks, but this being Britney wouldn't rock the music world? Like anyone in the music world really thinks she can sing. Women and men who have actual vocal chops at some point get asked to sing the national anthem or at least do something accapella (sp)
And the timeline rules out the German girl for the HIV+singer. First of all, who are all these American stars she would have slept with and when the blind was originally mentioned she had already been outed as the litigation process had already begun. So I don't think Enty would do a blind about an obscure German pop singer none of us ever heard of before she made the news the way she did!
Just throwing this out there for fun...is there any reason that MV couldn't actually be a guy? It would be shocking if a male artist was discovered to have used a female singer for his tracks.
ReplyDeleteHmmm...male singer, feminine voice? I'm throwing my hat in and going for MV actually being MJ - Jacko - Michael Jackson. Enty only said he'd reveal this if all parties involved were to die. This truly would rock the music industry (Rock My World was the comeback that started this I think).
Going to have a little sit down now and be pleased with myself.
my bad, guys, totally forgot about enty ruling out the german girl...but am kinda on the fence about learning who it is also...very private info to reveal..glad 2 hear about john and giada cuz as much as i cant stand him i couldnt wipe the visual/audio of him and rr out of my brain yuk!
ReplyDelete@pixie niiiiiice!
ReplyDeletemy head is spinning from all of this.
ReplyDelete@pixie Things that make me go HUUUUMMMMMM
ReplyDeleteEnty ruled out the german girl for the HIV+ singer right when that story broke...he said it wasn't her. The singer in that blind was described as "America's Sweetheart" (might have been sarcasm) and he did say she's British. Amy Winehouse was a popular guess for that one. But, we were also told that it would come out within the next few months and it never did...
ReplyDeleteProduct Pixie...interesting theory. Maybe MV being female was just a huge red herring!
ReplyDelete@Maja. With a J. - I might be just totally going down the wrong track, but I can't really think of anyone else who this could be about that would be the huge deal it's made out to be if it came out. The biggest - I think - would be Whitney or Madonna but I don't buy it being either of them.
ReplyDeleteI have heard on numerous occasion's that Jacko's high-pitched speaking voice was put on; he actually had a totally normal, quite deep voice. I think it'd be kinda hard to sing in a fake voice all the time, and his later albums definitely made his voice sound weaker than the early stuff.
I doubt I'm right but it would be FREAKING SWEET if I was! I never guess blinds!
Not that we'll ever know I suppose.
wow, Product Pixie, just wow!!! I NEVER thought of that possibility. Can anyone rule it out?
ReplyDeleteAccording to Enty, MV is a she.
ReplyDeleteFrom the original blind:
"MV was not sure she wanted to continue on with what had been happening..."
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ReplyDeleteIt's Madonna,
ReplyDeletewith Regina doing the vocals. Here is a youtube of Regina's singing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlhZ5WQJ5E&feature=related
Only Madonna would Rock the music world if shown as a fake, JLo and Brittney are meh...
ahh forgot about MV having to be US born.
ReplyDeletePixie good theory but Enty did say it was a she - could be a red herring too.
I love the MV talk because it gets all us so nutty!
I really don't think Regina sounds anything like Madonna's records. She has the same poor vocal production (wouldn't surprise me to find out that she suffered polyps on her vocal chords at some point, you can hear the strain. See Madonna's visit to the doctor in "Truth Or Dare" and subsequent vocal rest) and bad habits, but her voice is warmer and deeper.
ReplyDeleteCan we all agree that people would say that Britney and J Lo stink as singers. HOWEVER, Britney entertains, and that's why she is successful. J-LO is a Latin diva, and starred as Selena, so that is the only reason she continues to be successful, not her singing. Neither of these would EVER turn the music world upside down.
ReplyDeleteMariah Carey is real, and so is Celine Dion. Whitney's whole family is singers, so doubt it is her. So is Michael Jackson's whole family.
Faith Hill sings all the time in concert so I don't think it can be her.
I'm at a loss.
Missy Elliot?
ReplyDeleteGwen Stefani? Although I don't think she sings well.
Mary J Blige?
Avril Lavigne? Bwahahahahahaahah!
Missy Elliot?
ReplyDeleteGwen Stefani? Although I don't think she sings well.
Mary J Blige?
Avril Lavigne? Bwahahahahahaahah!
Oh, Ennnntty!
ReplyDeleteCan you tell us if anyone has guessed correctly in *this* thread?
Are we on the right track? Decade? :)
Just spit-balling here...Gloria Estefan?
ReplyDeleteI know all the clues have referred to MV as a "she" but that could just be another red herring.
ReplyDeleteWhat if the year 2000 is nowhere near the actual year and Jackson's ENTIRE recording career has been but a web of lies?!?! Ok, getting carried away but it's fun.
I just don't think there are any female singers who are a big enough deal that this can relate to.
Or, this blind is one big fantasy fabrication in which case I shall lay my money on Jacko FTW!
Thank you Amsterdam, goodnight.
I was just thinking too that there are so few really good women singers around that have enough prestige to create much of a shock. But Michael Jackson--god knows what the drugs did to his voice. It does happen, and I could see a record company freaking over the loss of one of it's biggest money makers and hiring a female to do the vocals. The only female singer that is up there and may cause some eyebrows to raise in surprise is Whitney Houston. Now wouldn't everyone be dumbfounded to discover she never sang a note on her albums? I know I would.
ReplyDelete@Revali - I remember you from CRI! You probably won't remember me b/c we didn't hang out together except when Brian Perry was around. Ring a bell? Small world *lol*
ReplyDelete@steph no way!so awesome! i love that enty hooked us back up! soooo homesick and missing sd/la...email me!
ReplyDeleteOk, forget Madonna....How about Barbara Streisand!!! lol
ReplyDeleteI am still hellbent that Paula Abdul is an MV too. I will never be able to give that up. Enty will have to pry it from my COLD. DEAD. HANDS.
ReplyDeleteHaving another moment. How about Prince? Didn't realise but he had a baby son who died when he was a week old, so he technically fits all the clues.
ReplyDeleteAm now convinced that whoever this person is, it's a guy.
I say NO to Madonna. Even cleaned up in the studio, let's face it, Madonna's voice kinda sucks, but it's relatable and at least we can sing along since she ain't reaching for the stars. Plus, back when she was just becoming famous, there are tapes and video of her live, and while her voice sounds quite similar, it's obvious that technology has "helped" her along the way. And what's the nickname? Madge (I guess that works)? Anglophile? Royal PIA??
ReplyDeleteI think no to Britney, too. Would it really rock the music world if we found out someone sings for her? We'd all be like, well, DUH. We all know she lip syncs everything now anyway. Also, she was in the Mickey Mouse club and those were all live auditions (which I watched on some documentary-- yes, I have no life), with PLENTY of heavy talent to choose from, so Brit had to have some intrinsic voice talent to win out of all the other competition. Also, she has plenty of Youtube videos of her singing live from her "...Baby One More Time" album. Even though she has probably lost a lot of her voice, I think she still sounds quite similar to her old self on her recent records (autotune and all), and this blind is older than them anyway.
Is it JHo? Maybe. The blind came out during her new height of fame as a singer. Her nickname is ubiquitous. She fits all the hints, and her live singing sounds like a cat in heat, BUT THEN AGAIN, so do her albums. They may just be pulling a Kim Zolciak on us with JLo, and "prettying her up" in the sound booth...and just barely though. I wouldn't say JLo has a good voice of her own like the blind states.
Fourthly, Whitney. Now THAT would rock the music industry, and we all know her voice has gone to hell in a handbag lately. But her live performances (before the coke) were beautiful, and she clearly was talented, so WHY bust a Milli Vanilli so early on??? Also, what nicknames would she be known for except Crackhead? Or what about for Bobby Brown? Obviously there's Ray J, but he has never been married to her.
I dunno. There's a lot of him-hawing in my post, but I was just trying to put together some sort of cohesive argument to convince myself of our top guesses. From this messy brainstorm, I think I can more so go with either JLo or Whitney. I'm leaning towards Whitney since it would be a much bigger sensation, however, as aforementioned, all the pieces just don't fit.
And this is VERY likely not a guy-- the original blind said a "woman" came to Enty's office. Unless it's Whacko Jacko....
Things that make you go HMMMM....
(Sorry for such a long post!)
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ReplyDeleteI think a major piece of the puzzle is in the original blind: S agrees and records another CD worth of songs which is released several months later and does even better than the first CD.
ReplyDeletethe key here is that the second CD did better than the first. Completely rules out britney, since all of her CDs have sold less than the one before it.
I meant to add that it does not rule out J.Lo, who's second CD was a bigger success than her debut.
ReplyDeleteIf you listen to her first two albums the vocals are richer than they are now.
ReplyDeleteNow this wouldn't be a shocker now but back then absolutely! She was huge - number 1 album and a number 1 movie at the same time. She was in great demand.
I think they melded the two voices so you can her "voice" but it was carried by the other women's voice.
There is definately a difference in voices from the first two albums and the more recent ones but what is stumping me is the touring piece of it. She did tour in obscure markets like Puerto Rico but that was later in her career and she sounded awful.
I still think it is J-Lo.
I believe it is Madonna, all the clues fit. We all know she was commonly mistaken as Regina in the 80's who was a one hit wonder. Regina also co-wrote baby love with a frequent Madonna collaborater. Madonna has two nicknames, madge and material girl. I think her voice changed on her later albums as well. Also as Eric pointed out in an earlier post it can't be brit because he says in the original posting that the second album did better than the first, which is true of Madonna.
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ReplyDeleteEnty said that he never mentioned MV before on his sight until the 11-21-06 blind. I checked the message boards and found a discussion talking about that.
With that being said, I do not think it is Brit or J-lo. My guess is Lauryn Hill. Why? Well, th Fugees' album The Score hits it big in 1998. Lauryn Hill goes solo and her album hits it even bigger. She wins awards, appears on soaps and does commercials. She WAS everywhere. She drops out of the lime light suddenly, claiming that she is dishartened by the music business, and she will not be someone she is not.
She decides to make a comeback, and this August does a few shows on the West Coast. People are so excited to hear her unique vocals; however, she ends up rapping most of the lyrics at these concerts. That I find odd. Her D.C. concert had similar reviews, but those reviews chacterized her voice as "raspy."
If you check her wiki entry you can tie almost every clue to her. The only one that MIGHT night fit is the marriage. I did a google search to find this information and came across the following from an artical dated Oct. 17, 2007: "Lauryn is reportedly married to founder of Tuff Gong ,Rohan Marley whom is also the son of the legendary Bob Marley although no legal evidence of the union has ever surfaced."
Thoughts?
Hoopgirl13, there are only two holes in that theory of this being Lauren Hill.
ReplyDelete1. She sang lead for the Fugees long before they made it big with that album, so the entire group would have had to have been on it because since Pras and Wyclef are producers, they would have had to orchestrate the whole thing.
2. You can rent "Sister Act 2" where a young, unknown lauryn has a pretty good part and she is singing solo in the film, so unless this ghost singer ghosted for her as an unknown during the filming of "Sister Act 2", I doubt it's her.
Not to mention that though she's wacky for whatever reason, she doesn't strike me as the type to be bitchy towards someones appearance.