TMZ managed to get their hands on a declaration that Robyn Gibson signed which says that, "Mel never engaged in any physical abuse of any kind toward me before, during or after our marriage."
She also says that Mel was a loving and wonderful father. Really? Here is what I find hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that all of this with Oksana was the first time he ever acted like this in 30 years. Does he just save it for the women he cheated with? Is this the way he lets off steam with them? That porn star he was cheating on Oksana with said that Ml was very aggressive with her too.
Maybe, Mel has promised Robyn more money? I just cannot fathom that he has never been abusive before. Now, the interesting thing is that at least in the portions that TMZ released that she does not mention anything about verbally abusive. Just physical.
They are still married? Who knew.
ReplyDeleteI think Robyn's #1 priority is her children. Mel was probably a fucking dick to her, but she will never be anything but loyal to him in public. She's entitled to boatloads of cash whether she trashes him or not, but I think she doesn't want to humiliate her children any further than they have been.
ReplyDeleteAlso, why would she do anything to help Oksana?
Just my 2 cents.
Call me dubious.
ReplyDeleteNo mention of verbal or emotional abuse, by the by.
I think she needs the money. She's used to a very lavish lifestyle, I'm sure.
ReplyDeleteOh, I believe that he views his wife as a Madonna (as in Mary) and any other woman he's with is a Ho. He seems like the socio/psychopaths-sadists, etc. who are married with kids, but the Family appears shocked to know what he's been up to.
ReplyDeleteEllen - DEFINITELY. Mel's a classic example of suffering from Madonna/Whore complex.
ReplyDeleteI actually dated someone until recently, who was similiar (although milder by far) than this thing with mel, he left his wife for me..and exhibited similiar weirdo psycho outbursts to me (over time), and I know those didn't happen when he was married. I believe men of this generation know how to respect their wife (partly financially they have to), and if they see you as more vulnerable - they will treat you like crap. It likely comes from some abuse that happened as a child. Without people seeing what they are doing, and the boundaries of the marriage - they loose all sense and act like monsters. It happens a lot.
ReplyDeleteMoney? Ha!
ReplyDeleteYou just don't suddenly develop a misogynistic streak a mile wide.
I'm willing to bet good money that she's got Stockholm syndrome.
After 30 odd years of his behaviors and undoubtedly being the victim of more than a few "accidents", courtesy of those same behaviors.
Noone really expected her to do or say otherwise, did they?
Money? Ha!
ReplyDeleteYou just don't suddenly develop a misogynistic streak a mile wide.
I'm willing to bet good money that she's got Stockholm syndrome.
After 30 odd years of his behaviors and undoubtedly being the victim of more than a few "accidents", courtesy of those same behaviors.
Noone really expected her to do or say otherwise, did they?
Apologies for the doublepost.
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I bet right now Mel wishes Robyn would take him back and drop the divorce.
ReplyDeleteThis is also about Mel being left by Oksana. He is such a control freak he does the leaving. Nobody leaves the Mel.
I never see him with his adult kids in public. I don't think they have too much to do with him other then cashing the trust fund checks.
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ReplyDeleteI think he's bipolar. My ex treated me well, always a partner and never abusive, and then one day I was dropped after almost 20 years of marriage. He immediately picked up with someone my polar opposite (except in appearance). The man he became I didn't even recognize. He's a lot better now, diagnosed and on his meds, but became so scary between our divorce and his diagnosis that he was escorted off his job by security and lost almost everything. It doesn't excuse Mel's behavior, he's still responsible for his actions and needs to seek help, but it sure explains it, to me.
ReplyDeleteI'm w/Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors -- and also ColinColin. Plus some don't think it's physical abuse if (a) there are no marks or scars and/or (b) the abuse is emotional and verbal and consists of him pushing you against a wall, getting up in your face so close that his spit is all over you when he screams while waving a bottle or a gun or a bat.
ReplyDeleteIt is quite possible that he was never abusive to Robyn, but we will never know unless she says so until then it is only speculation. They were together for 30 years, she could have left but she didn't. In all honesty if she wanted to throw him under the bus right now she could but she's has chosen not to. I won't knock her decision to stick by him, he is the father of her children, and she doesn't have to stick up for him cause SHE will get LOTS of his estate due to the length of their marriage. I get the feeling his relationship with Oksana was ONLY about sex and then she got pregnant and he was stuck with her for life. Not a situation he wanted but something he had to deal with and ultimately he resented her for it and it made him bitter and angry. He blames her for the demise of his marriage and maybe even his career and I think that may have played a part in their violatile relationship.
ReplyDeleteAlso- I remember an interview he did years ago where he said his wife was going to go to hell because she was not Catholic (Episcopalian I think- which is JV Catholic, anyway) (I'm Catholic, I can say it). Acknowledged she was a good person, but was going to hell anyway. Sound emotionally abusive to me. But I still think he's bipolar, too, based on his actions.
ReplyDeleteBlind items on the urban oriented gossip sites pointed to Mel having several Black mistresses who he gave lots of money and expensive gifts to after being abusive.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not he physically abused Robyn, she was with him during the years of heavy drinking and we know he is not a nice drunk.
I'm with Lady J and others who think it could be true. He met his wife long ago and she was a fairly normal part of his family constellation and household dynamic. Then after decades of substance abuse and enduring "public humiliation" as a controversial and outspoken celeb, he threw away his wife and family for a scandalous sexual "acting out" with Oksana. He probably hoped that he would be able to have sex with a young woman and recreate his youth again, impregnate her, and repeat the whole booze and coke "Everybody loves me" experience he had when he was young.
ReplyDeleteThen reality came crashing in. The public didn't like him. Oksana turned out to be a human being, not a mythic youth-restoring symbol. Tensions grew, and Mel's anger corroded everything in his mind. And yet he clings, he clings to her, he wants to control her, to demean her sexually, violently, brutally. Yeah, I can see how Robyn wouldn't have been the focus of the same kind of insane murderous sexualized phantasy. I think Robyn's probably telling the truth.
I agree that she probably won't say anything negative about him for the kids sake. She is probably trying to salvage any dignity left for them. I bet the kids have witnessed a lot from him. I wonder if any of them will write a tell all book after Mel self explodes and dies. I also wonder if his kids have any kind of a relationship with their little half sister. I'm guessing not, but never know.
ReplyDeleteTotally with Ellen - the madonna/whore complex ! He belongs to a catholic 'sect' not quite in harmony with the regular catholic church, which seems to be even more strict in their beliefs. (what must his parishioners think ?) I think I do believe Robyn. I dislike Oksana - she obviously was abused, but wow - how cool and calm she is when she's baiting him right into his hate filled rants ! Mel is getting his just reward for being an A*hole!
ReplyDeletein USA,can a husband and his wife have a good argument?
ReplyDeleteI too think it could be true. He does have a boatload of kids, for one thing -- it does seem something might have come out, if only in child protective services things or whatnot. But mostly, I wonder if he didn't have a belated Midlife Crisis thing, doesn't think of any of the women after the wife he married before his fame as, you know, "real" or something, or disposable, expendable, something nasty.
ReplyDeleteMy father was verbally abusive toward my mom (and me) when I was growing. He had a horrible temper, which my husband, my neighbors and teachers can attest. He passed away suddenly almost eight years ago, and my mom still won't abide anything negative said about him. I don't get i, but maybe it is a form of Stockholm Syndrome. For that reason I don't think we should judge his former wife or say she is doing it for the money.
ReplyDeleteShe may be afraid of Mel or have fear for her kids. She may be embarrassed -- not just about Mel leaving her for Oksana -- but embarrassed to admit that Mel abused her too. I sense she is probably a private person. Maybe she doesn't have a lot of support outside her family.
That said, I kinda love that candid shot of Mel's family. Too bad he's such an ass. Hopefully his kids will be okay.
A good friend of mine was an extra in 'Hamlet'. She said she and few of the other extras went to a pub one night after filming and Mel was there. She said he was amazingly nice, exceedingly polite (put everyone's drinks on his tab) and did not become the slightest bit belligerent while drinking. As well, he talked about his wife with total respect, and he never made advances on any of the women present. That said, this recent behaviour of his seems to indicate he's gone completely off the rails. Something has happened to this man's mind, clearly, and while I totally agree he should be held accountable for the abuse, I also think that something isn't right with him psychologically.
ReplyDeleteThe whole situation is horrible.
Lots of mental disorders are made worse by hormonal changes which ebb and flow as we age. OCD for example is often triggered in males during either the pre-puberty/early puberty stage or when a man hits "male menopause" at around his late 40s or early 50s. Schizophrenia usually manifests itself within 18 months of a person's 19th birthday. Maybe Mel was always somewhat abusive (verbal, passive aggressive, a wall-puncher type) and something in his brain chemistry has changed which has escalated his aggression. I also think he absolutely has a Madonna/Whore complex.
ReplyDelete@pomme, my ex and I used to have a good fight about every 6 months.
ReplyDeleteI'd opt for Occam's Razor's choice and stick with the least complicated reason -- Robyn is scared shitless of him.
ReplyDeleteI think it's highly possible that he has a mental illness that's getting worse by the day.
ReplyDeleteAnd as others have said, he clearly has a Madonna/Whore complex.
@Colincolin, way to be a homewrecker.
Blind items on the urban oriented gossip sites pointed to Mel having several Black mistresses who he gave lots of money and expensive gifts to after being abusive.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not he physically abused Robyn, she was with him during the years of heavy drinking and we know he is not a nice drunk.
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Wasn't this a blind item a couple of months back on this site and everyone assumed it was Michael Douglas for some reason? I don't recall any mention that the star was abusive just that he maintained a black mistress?
The simplest explanation is that Mel had Robyn sign a non-disclosure agreement, then when this came up he probably got her to make a statement on his behalf in exchange for another chunk of cash or something else she wanted or needed to get from him. So she'll never say anything bad about him, and if he wants her support, he'll buy it.
ReplyDeleteDebbie Rowe had all kinds of dirt to dish on Michael Jackson with the district attorney until MJ sent some more cash her way, at which point she took the witness stand and couldn't sing his praises loudly enough. And a good number of witnesses testifying before the grand jury about shenanigans at Neverland Ranch suddenly "forgot" all kinds of stuff by the time they took the stand. Money can buy anything, including the waiving of honesty and morals.
Vikingwench: I always thought of Episcopalianism as "Catholicism Lite" (heard that somewhere but can't recall now,) but I like JV Catholic equally as well.
ReplyDeleteNo, squeezebox, whenever you involve attorneys, it's NEVER the simple explanation (except in your case, Enty). lol
ReplyDelete@Gretchen - that marriage had no intimate contact for at least 4 years. My point was, that what Mel is doing is some kind of a bigger problem - wether it's as other people mentioned - a psycological disease or simply bad habits...I tend to believe it's bad habits, because the most serious incident occured 6 months ago. Which means there were months of them trying to work out the problems on some level. Anyone with any sense, would have sought help. That deep breathing he is doing in the tapes, is something that abusers do right before they want to beat the crap out of you. I don't know why no one has pointed that out. It's called total anger and behaving like an animal.
ReplyDeleteShe may have altered these tapes, but you can be sure - that there have been way more instances than we are hearing. I know people will end up blaming her, but dealing with someone who acts like that is an impossible situation to be in - and they have a child together, the emotional ties are strong.
People do not attack ex partners, and fathers of their children for no reason. She clearly waited a long time, and defended him to her dentist, and that shows that she was trying to not escalate what occurred. Shame on him for letting it go this far - he clearly had the opportunity to get help and control himself long before it got to this kind of public point. I was also saying that people who can have a together life, can go off the rails when that life disappears. These men that cheat - it is not right to hold the other party responsible, they have the responsibility to their family...the often misreprsent and lie, and that is their responsibility. I frankly hope this Mel Gibson situation signs more light on DV situations that people deal, it is very difficult to be involved with people acting like this. For some reason they just won't stop.
And to everyone on this site that reads it - and this is a nice site, and the first and last time I will comment. I made a suicide attempt based on DV behavior that is in the realm of this Mel Gibson, although more focused threats on myself. DV behavior (even just emotional) is bad bad stuff. I believe it's like living in a war zone. It's serous, and no matter what kind of a person she is - it's not something that many people have the skills to deal with. These dv people won't let go - which is why you hear him, hating her and wanting her back. It's a goddamn nightmare - and I applaud her in some way for standing up to him. They play dirty and if you lash back, they attack you more. It's a sickness.
ReplyDeletea lot of the comments on this post are similar to the comment i made on yesterday's post. i didn't put together the madonna/whore complex though, interesting addition.
ReplyDelete@ robert: i think the first time i heard the phrase "catholic lite" was robin williams. i AM episcopalian, and let me tell you, eddie izzard's "dress to kill" is dead on!
I was shocked at his anger. Now, I have always been surrounded by good men who are always in control of themselves, but Mel sounded out of control and homicidal to me. He's definitely mentally ill.
ReplyDeleteI have to co-sign on the Madonna/Whore complex - many a Catholic is afflicted with this misogynist thinking.
ReplyDeleteI also think he has problems he has never coped with - and emotional/psychological problems that are never dealt with grow exponentially as one ages. By the time you're his age, you positively climbing the walls.
I understand why his wife made that statement, which interestingly does NOT address violent hate-speech or emotional abuse. She's got kids with this man and she's stuck with him for life.
@colincolin
ReplyDeleteI am sorry for your pain. I completely feel you and am in your situation currently. I know all about the heavy breathing - you probably would recognize the 'glare' that you get just before the explosion as well - I totally understand. Have thought about death a great deal, mostly because he recently has begun ordering me to kill myself. He's an incredibly mentally ill person. Also a rock star, so he has many, many Whoopi's who will continue to enable him. Hard.
Robin may have a non-disclosure agreement and is legally bound not to discuss the relationship with anyone. She also may know that he will hurt her if she talks. It's hard to put yourself out there when there are kids involve - just look at OJ.
As with Oksana, my ex wants me back. I think it's only so that he can begin the cycle again. Don't worry, not going. Have a lawyer.
@imhotep: My first reaction to your statement is, "Who the fuck is this asshole? People should know about him!" But it's obviously not safe at this stage to say, and may never be, and it's your life and I don't want to get all up in your business, but I'm sorry for what you've gone through and am glad you're getting out. It's incredible (and I know whereof I speak,) but sometimes physical abuse almost seems preferable to the slow grind of the nonstop mindfuck that the verbal/emotional abuse inflicts on a person. Stay strong, and good luck.
ReplyDelete@colincolin: I didn't mean to leave you out. I've been on the wrong end of a suicide attempt myself (not that there's a right one,) so I have some idea of where you're coming from, too. You're right about the war zone mentality; years of it takes an incredible toll on the psyche. I could never understand why a person would turn on a supposed partner and inflict such damage, unless they themselves are damaged. I'm glad you made it through, too, and hope you're in a better place.
ReplyDelete@imhotep, I hope that you're able to get away from the situation and NEVER, EVER go back.
ReplyDeleteMental and verbal abuse is sometimes worse than physical abuse because it's much harder to prove. Also if the abuser is nice to other people nobody believes you. I'm so glad Oksana taped Mel because if you think about it, without the tape she would have no proof of his abuse and no one would believe a "gold digger" over a celebrity breadwinner.
I am sending a great big comfy Mommy hug to you peeps going through a hard time {{{xox}}}}
ReplyDeleteStay strong and focused :)
regardless of what his problems are ( and I am sure they are many, varied and disturbed ) I think this is a simple case of her protecting the kids and thier legacy. These kids have gone from being percieved as having the father of the year to the biggest celebrity moster dad since Bing Crosby. I personally would be tempted to clam up at the very least to protect their image of him as a father. Besides the fact that if he were abusive for 28 years, she most likely was able to keep it from them. So how hard would it be to break that seal after all these years.
ReplyDelete@colincolin and imhotep~please reach out for help from anyone! what ever you think you are getting from these men is not worth it. they do not love you. they can't! leave as soon as possible!! one of my closest friends was in a similar situation for many, many years. She suffered horribly and finally left and has been in intensive counseling since. she did move across the country, but she has HER life!! please think about leaving!
ReplyDelete@colincolin and imhotep~please reach out for help from anyone! what ever you think you are getting from these men is not worth it. they do not love you. they can't! leave as soon as possible!! one of my closest friends was in a similar situation for many, many years. She suffered horribly and finally left and has been in intensive counseling since. she did move across the country, but she has HER life!! please think about leaving!
ReplyDeleteyou know, i actually use to TRY to get the asshole to hit me, just once, figuring that was the only way i'd get out. back then, verbal and mental abuse wasn't really an issue with the courts (oh, and there was no such thing as marital rape).
ReplyDeletewhat finally got me out was my best friends told me that i was always welcome at their house, but he wasn't. also, they would not come to my house if he was home.
finally they said, pretty much, that they would always be there for me, but if i was going to take control of my life, they didn't want to hear me bitching about it anymore.
they really did save my life.
god bless y'all who are dealing with these issues now, and those who have survived it in the past. you WILL get stronger, and will find out that you are worth so much more than you may have ever believed!
I grew up with an abusive stepfather-never physical toward me and my sister, but mentally ill, rages to beat any of Mel Gibsons, horrible abuse towards my mother. All I can say is this: when someone verbally, emotionally, or physically assaults you once, GET THE HELL OUT. Why stick around??? Or better yet, push that motherfucker down the stairs.
ReplyDeleteMy sister and I will never get over years of living with a monster like Mel Gibson. And I don't think we'll ever really forgive our mother for making us live with him.
Could be it's a Freudian thing and he has a Madonna/Whore Complex. I mean, he is some extreme strain of Catholic, is he not? That fucked up belief that all women are virgins, mothers, or whores is pretty common in religiously inclined guys like him.
ReplyDeleteIf Oksana is no virgin and he doesn't think she's an appropriate mother (and she's a sexually active woman who is not married, that alone makes her inappropriate), she doesn't fall into the "Madonna" category. That only leaves the "Whore" category.
So while he would never disrespect a properly demure young woman (virgin) or wife (mother), he feels free to shit all over a woman like Oksana.