When I saw the report on TMZ today saying that Michael Jackson was not the father of his children, it wasn't exactly the greatest shock ever. Did anyone really think they were his kids or his sperm? Seriously? I don't know what the big fuss is. What did shock me was that someone did come forward and admit that two of the children were his. According to Arnold Klein, he is not only Debbie Rowe's former boss but also the father of Michael's children. Klein always said he would never reveal that he was the parent and that lasted all of about four days after Michael died. From what I understand though, Klein says Debbie Rowe is the mother and that is not true according to the TMZ reports. From what I understand is that no one knows who the father of Blanket is, and only know the name of the mother.
I think over the course of the next few months we will find out some very interesting things about the life of Michael Jackson. Then after about a year there will be a rash of books which will make some truly outrageous claims. Whether they can be believed or not will be an open question. Think about how how many family members who would love to write a book or sell some rights to a movie and make some money. Lots and lots of books will be written.
I agree - definitely not a shocking "revelation." I also agree that some crazy sh*t is going to continue to come out, true or not.
ReplyDeleteI feel so terribly for these children and can't see how anyone is going to give them any type of normalcy with all of this going on.
When situations like this happen I start to think that maybe requiring people to have a license to parent isn't such a bad thing.
ReplyDeleteI wish some sort of gag order could be put in place for the childrens sake. I may not have agreed with some of his methods(masks etc) but at least Michael did try to protect his children and I wish his family would continue it as well.
ReplyDeleteI'm not surprised, either, but do know this is probably the tip of the iceberg.
ReplyDeleteDID ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE HE WAS GENETICALLY RELATED TO THOSE KIDS ?
ReplyDeleteMICHAEL JACKSON HATED HIMSELF....HE WOULD NEVER, EVER..EVEN IF HE COULD PASS THOSE GENES ON...
I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE HE DIDN'T APPOINT A GUARDIAN.
here come the vultures...
ReplyDeleteexcuse my ignorance-but I still don't get it. Was MJ gay?
ReplyDeleteI will never be suprised by anything that happed in MJ's life or the menagerie of characters that he surrounded himself with..
ReplyDeleteMr. Jackson was coo-coo for coco puffs for a long time and no one was strong enough to make him deal with his issues so we will have years of crazy to pick through I guess!!
I think if you're a man that's into boys, you're gay.
ReplyDeleteread somewhere he never officially adopted the children WTF ?
ReplyDeleteHe was a great entertainer and all, but seriously who let this man have children? Those poor kids have such a tough road ahead of them, I only hope someone with good intentions raises them.
ReplyDeleteNo, if you're a man that's into men, you're gay. If you're a woman that's into women, you're a lesbian. If you're a man that's into boys (or a man that's into girls, or a woman that's into boys, or a woman that's into girls), you're a pedophile.
ReplyDelete(**all labels approximate, of course--your mileage may vary**)
So he's a homosexual pedophile. Case closed.
ReplyDeleteI am not shocked by this either. Personally, I don't believe he was gay - or straight either, for that matter. I think he was more asexual. He was so repulsed by his own body, I can't imagine him letting anyone else see/touch it. I think a lot of crazy stuff will come out, but it usually does - no matter WHO the celebrity was/is. Cue the vultures.....
ReplyDeleteI saw the rerun of Martin Bashir's interview with Michael and I don't think Michael has ever had sex with a man or a woman.
ReplyDeleteIt was obvious that Mike was emotionally crippled beyond repair. He had an emotional disability that was best expressed as that of an eight year old.
That is one painful interview to watch.
i think he was asexual too...i know he was weird but none of us know how he was as a father...i had a shitty deadbeat dad and i am fine as an adult...i think it is more likely he showered them with the love he felt he never had from his own father...as far as molestation allegations go, i think his high profile status and interacting with children made him a target to be accused...out of all the kids he spent time with, if he did touch them, wouldnt there be more children who come forward? no one has to agree with me, but i think before MJ is deemed the worst parent ever, these things need to be considered.
ReplyDeleteThose poor kids. God help them.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if he never legally adopted the kids. MJ had his own people around him including a constantly changing cast of doctors and lawyers who would do whatever he asked inside or outside of the law.
ReplyDeleteApparently, the kids did not attend school or even have a personal tutor. MJ and the kids were isolated so he didn't answer to anyone and few people know the truth.
I'm sure that he made some kind of provisions for the kids, but we'll have to see what happens.
The interesting part to me is that Debbie Rowe wasn't bio mom. I guess that explains her lack of interest in getting custody.
ReplyDeleteENT I know you're not a family lawyer, but if it turns out that MJ didn't adopt the kids and that they aren't biologically his, will that affect the Jackson family's ability to get custody?
I read yesterday that he had two male lovers. One an actor and another a waiter. I think I read that in the Star. They've been pretty accurate so far. Just get those kids to safety and away from the Jackson family. Let them visit but they should be in a safe, loving, stable environment. And that will never be with the Jackson's.
ReplyDeleteI don't care about the sordid details of Michael's life. The man is dead, can't we just leave him be already, and allow him to rest in peace? Can't we grant a bit of common decency and respect to his children and loved ones by not digging up and throwing dirt around? Why does his past matter now, it's not as if he is still here to speak his point of view.
ReplyDeleteEven in death people can't give the guy a break. Pathetic.
To add to Little Miss Smoke and Mirrors comment, I am now thinking the same things. Not only the whole custody issue, but since they are not related to MJ either biologically or the fact he never legally adopted them, then that would make none of them heirs to his estate, right? Unless he stated some kind of requests in his will. Though I thought I read somewhere it was very outdated...It will be interesting to see who is going to be interested in the children now that they potentially not heirs to the fortune (cue Katherine and Joe Jackson revising their plan of attack...)
ReplyDeleteJust keep those poor kids away from Joe Jackson, that's all I ask....
ReplyDeleteAccording to CA state law, the kids are the legal offspring of Rowe and MJ because they were legally married when each child was born.
ReplyDeleteAnd according to other reports, Katherine and Joe are husband and wife in name only. They share an address--that's it. I think that's been pretty public knowledge for a while now. When KJ filed the guardianship papers, Joe's name was not on the petition.
ReplyDeleteWhen are they going to put MJ to rest??? It's been 5 days now, and when his piece-of-shit for a father was asked yesterday, he said that "the family isn't ready for that yet." Does Jehovah's Witnesses have rules about burial/cremation/descendency to hell? And I AM being bitchy here b/c that man--MJ--shouldn't have had kids to begin with.
another vote for asexual here. i don't think he ever had sex with anyone of either sex.
ReplyDeleteas for the will, if he left his estate to the children, then that's the way it will go, regardless of a genetic link. shit, you can leave your money to a dog if you so choose. there won't be a fight about that because of his lack of genetic relationship to them, IF this will exists.
THE FAMILY'S NOT HAPPY WITH THE AUTOPSY RESULTS...SO ANOTHER IS BEING DONE...AND THAT'S THE HOLD UP....THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO BLAME...
ReplyDeleteI'm not even sure they're kids....
ReplyDeleteCheryl said:
ReplyDelete"Apparently, the kids did not attend school or even have a personal tutor. MJ and the kids were isolated so he didn't answer to anyone and few people know the truth."
That's not true. The children had a tutor and according to at least one reliable source had a pretty good education.
Michael may have been a lot of things but dumb wasn't one of them. He took pride in being smart and having smart children.
However like him they are probably lacking in people skills.
Yesterday I saw pics of MJ with his kids and they were "normal" pics such as birthday parties, etc, and a lot of the pics showed other children in them.
ReplyDeleteThis, strangely, brought me some relief that the kids seemed to have been raised somewhat normally.
Sue Ellen Mishkey said...
ReplyDeleteI think if you're a man that's into boys, you're gay.
no, you're a fucking pedophile, two very different things.
oh what a tangled web we weave...
ReplyDelete"I think I read that in the Star. They've been pretty accurate so far."
ReplyDeleteI hope you're being sarcastic.
A sexual? Yeah...could be. If that's what you call it when someone has never had consentual sex with an adult, then a sexual it is.
I was also watching the documentary last night and it's so bizarre how much MJ lied. The funniest part is when he addresses how God and puberty are to blame for his drastic change of appearance as he aged, and how blanket's mother is black and the reason blanket is so fair is because they're called people of color because they come in all different colors. Ummmmmmmm.. if blanket's mom is black then blanket should be black.
If he can lie about so much why do people even doubt that he would lie about touching children??
Oh, btw, he also says it was his own sperm used to make all 3 children. Un-hunh.
And as for giving him a break and letting him be... fuck no. If I have to hear about him everywhere i go you better be damned certain i'm gonna put my 2 cents in as well. I have to hear about how he was everyone's fucking hero and to me that's sick.
ReplyDeletei think the reason i never figured out whether he molested kids is because the PARENTS of those kids clearly pimped out their own children for money---who the fuck allows their son to sleep in the same bed with a 40 year old man?? OH, i know! they do if he has millions and they can get their mitts on some of it.
ReplyDeletei couldn't believe their claims any more than i could believe his for that reason and i think that's why he wasn't convicted.
Ok, so if they aren't his kids then he was never entitled to keep them. More importantly, the Jackson clan has no claim to them nor do these kids have any claim to the estate.
ReplyDeleteEvery person involved in helping him obtain these kids, from the surrogates all the way through to the attorneys should be charged and convicted of Human Trafficking for the purposes of child exploitation. It is shameful that this type of crime could be perpetuated so publicly. Where is Gloria Aldrich to step in an file some sort of independent guardianship petition with the courts? This is just the sort of case she'd be interested in. I can't personally stand her, but I think she'd at least cut through all the Jackson bullshit, and look out for the kids.
that's absolutely not true. people who have babies through in vitro---even with none of their own genetic material---are the parents of those children. this is no different.
ReplyDeletei guarantee you if a couple was killed in an accident and their child---conceived with donor egg and sperm---survived them, they would remain within the family BY LAW.
as weird as this story is, it will just keep getting even stranger in the next few months.
ReplyDeletei found out last night that debbie rowe lives not eight miles from me, out here in the desert. apparently over the weekend, the entire town was in an uproar.
ReplyDeletegreat. just great.
Oh come on MommaBear. He was married to Debbie Rowe. She had the children within that marriage. Isn't he on the birth certificate? That's all it takes--being on the birth certificate.
ReplyDeleteAnd for pity's sake, it's not like he was the worst parent ever. There's no indication that he was anything but loving to those kids.
i think the reason i never figured out whether he molested kids is because the PARENTS of those kids clearly pimped out their own children for money---who the fuck allows their son to sleep in the same bed with a 40 year old man?? OH, i know! they do if he has millions and they can get their mitts on some of it.
ReplyDeleteexactly! i never said i thougth he was 100% innocent but i also read that the psych evaluation came back that HE IS NOT CONSIDERED A PEDOPHILE OR SEXUAL PREDATOR but HAD THE EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF A 10 YEAR OLD BOY.
good enough for me...
becasue im sure we all know better than a court appointed psychiatrist from all that top secret info we get from Access Hollywood...lol.
he was a decent parent. he had nannies, but was also an active parent in his kids' lives. that's more than a lot of celebrity and uber rich kids get.
ReplyDeleteand so he wasn't the bio dad... i don't even think they guy had baby making juice in him by that point. (but that's because i believe he was castrated to save his voice, ha.) he's still their dad.
as to that jungle kid up there... they aren't saying "a sexual", they're saying "asexual". google is yer friend.
i really don't think debbie rowe is out for the kids. if anything it's a pay day. and i think blanket's bio mom is totally irrevelent to the whole conversation. if sjp and matthew die, do the twins go their surrogate, or their family? really, it's a non issue, and is only being questioned by the media, not anyone actually involved.
The entire Jackson family was in denial about anything Michael did in his private life. Had they doubted his word he would have cut off the flow of money--and well you just can't have family members being broke and bitter. They could spill family secrets in a book or two.
ReplyDeleteFamily secrets drive me crazy. Humans and the human experience are not unique. There are more than 6,000,000,000 of us currently alive.
ReplyDeleteBoiled down, as I see it: MJ was abused and never recovered from the trauma. MJ had a complicated - possibly perverted - view of love and sexuality. He wanted the family and emotional security he didn't have and had the means to get it. Whatever it took.
And Gloria Allred was just interviewed by Kitty Pilgrim regarding guardianship of the children and The Will. I thought Gloria contributed a reasonable discussion of the law and possible outcomes. Nice change from her standard practice of expressing personal outrage at the highest decibels. Is it too much to hope that Nancy Grace was watching?
I'm so glad that this freak is dead.
ReplyDeleteComing soon, this guy and Corey Feldmann on Maury arguing about who is the father.
ReplyDeleteI will continue to believe they are Macaulay Culkins kids until I see hard proof of otherwise.
And I don't think Michael Jackson has not had sex...he's definitely had sex with a woman. Did anyone else see the Oprah episode with Lisa Marie? Who would admit that they had sex with Michael Jackson unless they actual did...she could have easily said she didn't want to talk about that aspect of their relationship, but she didn't...
Wow, the daughter (Paris) has the same ears as the dermatologist. Not that MJ spoke the truth about this matter very much, but he did say Debbie's kids were made the old-fashioned way. That might have been true, if was the derm and Debbie doing the baby-making.
ReplyDeleteSue Ellen Mishkey said...
ReplyDeleteSo he's a homosexual pedophile. Case closed.
10:39 AM
And you're a homophobic moron. Case closed.
I can't help but feel sorry for the kids cause this circus is going to be in town for a while - no matter who they are - and for MJ, now that I am seeing just how f'ing screwed up he was.
ReplyDeletehow is sue ellen a homophobic moron.....
ReplyDeleteWhen MJ molestated does boys....he is a pedophile and the fact that he was interested in MALES...makes him homosexual.
Seriously get over yourself.
Also, I don't know why anyone isn't suprised that the children aren't his...seriously they look white...not mixed at all.
Homosexuality is an attraction to MEN. Michael clearly was not attracted to men. Pedophilia is a completely different animal. Whether pedophiles go after male or female children, it has nothing to do with heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is pedophilia, and nothing else.
ReplyDeleteI though Lisa Marie said that they never had sex?
blankprincess, how is saying that MJ was a "homosexual (or same sex)pedophile (one who preys on children)" a homophobic statement?
ReplyDeleteIf you prefer sex with your same gender, then you are homosexual. If a man prefers sex with little girls, he is a heterosexual who is perverted and gets turned on by little girls rather than women.
I don't get how you see discrimination and homophobia in that.
There are some MEN who are attracted to women but also attracted to little boys. Does that make them heterosexual or homosexual? No matter what, that little boy attraction makes them pedophiles.
ReplyDeleteThe homophobia comes in because calling someone a homosexual pedophiliac mixes up two very different aspects of sexuality. The homosexual urge is directed at ADULTS of the same sex. Pedophilia is directed at children. No one calls people "heterosexual pedophiliac,' because we unconsciously think of heterosexual as normal. We add homosexual to just make the pediophilia all the more horrific.
I don't know if this makes sense, but it's best just to keep the two seperate. If someone's a pedophiliac, that's what they are, whether their victims are of the same or opposite genders from themselves. If someone is homosexual, s/he is not interested in children, only adults of the same sex.
As a survivor of family physical abuse, (of all forms, physical beatings to the extreme, emotional, and sexual abuse, again to the extreme), some of the signs and things said by Michael and others in his family subtly lead me to ask why no one has questioned that Michaels father or other male relatives may have sexually abused him as a small child...the signs are all there, the vomitting on seeing them, this doesnt usually occur from beating but more often is accompanied by sexual abuse sufferers, the mental regression to an age of less pain, the underlying hidden sexual rage dispalyed in some videos combined with the extreme need to be & feel loved...these are all severe reactions to sexual abuse. The need to associate with fantasy figures who cant be hurt in this way, and constant feelings of loneliness because the victim doesnt feel they CAN talk to anyone, not really. Why is no one seeing the deeper signs of abuse but letting it go at "he got a whipping"??
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