You know on a slow news day I feel like I can always count on Kim Kardashian, Mischa Barton or the UK tabloids to find something interesting about which to write. Today there is no Mischa, or Kim (except in the photos) but the Daily Mail didn't let me down. They did a story today on a woman who has a 21 year old son with Down's Syndrome.
The mom, Lucy Baxter wants her son to experience everything a man should experience she says and that includes sex. She is appealing for volunteers to have sex with her son so he can experience what it is like and she is even willing to hire a prostitute to make it happen.
'I'd like all my boys to find love and enjoy sex,' she said.
'I would have no problem paying for Otto to go to Amsterdam to visit a brothel if that's what he wanted.
'A few of his friends suggested it a few months ago and since then I've talked to Otto about it in an adult way. Why shouldn't he enjoy the same experiences as other men?'
I hate to talk poorly of the woman because she has adopted three other boys all with Down's Syndrome so I am happy she did that and is trying to ensure they live a normal life, but I can't quite decide if hiring a hooker for your son is the way to go to make things normal. With one of her other sons she has set up a Bebo page so he can try and find someone to meet. I have no problems with that and I do think that is part of being normal and if the son finds someone that would be great.
Some of her statements make me question her though. She says she would love her son Otto to bring home women and have sex with them and that she wants to be a grandmother and would love if Otto got a woman pregnant.
What do you think? Hire a hooker for him or let him try and meet a woman on his own?
This sounds like kind of a cool thing to do for your kid and all, but something smacks of the mom being two tacos shy of the combination plate.
ReplyDeletehmm. i'm torn. i think her heart is on the right place,but is it right? there is nothing normal about your mom hiring you a hooker.
ReplyDeletedown syndrom or not!
if she wants him to have a normal life and experience the same way any other man does,then buy him a computer. he can hide in the beasement and dream of touching a real girl like most young men his age.
Its been a long while since school biology but can a Down's syndrome person have a child? I thought the chromosome count was different, making it impossible. Anyone know?
ReplyDeleteHe needs to meet a woman on his own. I wouldn't want him to experience hooker sex and then to be confused (or, worse -- disappointed) when sex within a real relationship is different.
ReplyDeleteKudos to the Mom for trying to give her son the full extent of life everyone else gets to enjoy.
ReplyDeleteHe might not ever mature fully enough to live alone, etc. but why deny him the physical rights just because he has a disability? That would be cruel, IMO.
Back in my waitressing days, we had a local Down's boy in his pre-teens who was the horniest little bastard you ever saw!
Would get away with it, too, doing the side-hug boob reach around, and tried to slap us on our butts as we passed by his table.
People with disabilities have needs, too.
My cousin has Down's sydrome and has never had trouble finding a girlfriend. He's been involved in Special Olympics and other activities that allows him to meet people with similar interests. I have to brag about him...a few years back he was the world weightlifting champ in his weight class and he was one of the athletes features in a Terry Clark video.
ReplyDeleteI say go for the hooker and then he can take her to show and tell. Seriously tho, let him find it on his own, if that is what he wants. Sounds like his mom is off her rocker tho.
ReplyDeleteAnd forgot to say about the hooker part...I suppose the "right thing" would be to try some networking to get him a gal on his own.
ReplyDeleteBut hell, look how many people with no disability at all can't even get laid on their own!
I'm not very knowledgeable, but I thought Down's sufferers have a shorter life span, or is that a misconception?
Why does she think he needs to go to Amsterdam to find a prostitute? We have them in every town!
ReplyDeleteThere's a big problem among carers for the disabled (of all types) in allowing them to be sexual. Many carers like to think of their clients as childlike, dependent people. The mum is right in acknowleging this young man's needs, but maybe she just needs to make sure he meets lots of girls.
Down's people are very tactile and affectionate, so Mum would have to choose her prossie carefully. Or take care with any 'volunteers' who could exploit him.
That's cool, Cheri!
ReplyDeleteOh, she should have him join other organizations for people with Down's Syndrome, & let him find love on his own.
ReplyDeleteHe is certainly entitled to a sex life, but it would probably be better with somone on his own level, not a prostititute. And what if he decides he wants to enjoy sex every night? What will she do then?
If she wants him to "be like other men", he needs to meet someone on his own. Happens every day, DS won't stop him.
ReplyDeleteCheryl; Thanks for that info! I had a cousin with Downs. They are very capable of living alone, holding a job, being self sufficient & blossoming into responsible adults. I can't say that much for alot of 'able' people.
ReplyDeleteI went to school with a guy who's dad hired a hooker for him & his brother's 16th birthday. They were both 'capable'. I'll bet they both wish they could erase that memory. Dad was sleeze & the boys were decent, good looking & popular. They certainly didn't need the help.
i think its kinda sweet in a twisted, sick way.
ReplyDelete'Psychos are Nuts' might be right about the reproduction part, I don't think males with DS are fertile.
ReplyDelete'Selenakyle' is also right, life span is supposedly shorter but only because of possible health problems in peep with DS. I know some people with DS, but no health problems. who have lived to a good age.
Boy can make his own love life, his mother should direct her energy to his social life rather than the sex act.
"Its been a long while since school biology but can a Down's syndrome person have a child? I thought the chromosome count was different, making it impossible. Anyone know?"
ReplyDeleteMales with down syndrome do not produce sperm, so no, they cannot produce offspring.
Females with down syndrome can get pregnant, however. Their children have a 50% chance of being born with down syndrome.
I have doubts about this story because mothers of boys with down syndrome KNOW that their sons cannot reproduce so why would she say she wants her sons to meet women and get them pregnant if she knows that's not possible?
Hookers are dirty and carry diseases. Even the ones who get "tested regularly" are still dirty. Let's say you get tested once a week. That would work if you only have sex with one person a week, but that's probably not what happens. If you have a clean test on Sunday, then you have sex with someone on Monday, by Tuesday you're already at risk for disease. Plus, you usually have to have HIV for up to 6 months before you test positive for it. So weekly testing really doesn't prevent the spread of HIV.
ReplyDeleteI think she ought to just find him a girlfriend with down's syndrome. There must be a dating sight for that.
I agree with Lutefisk--the best idea for him is probably to make sure he's in as many social activities as possible with other people with mental disabilities, so that he can date women like himself.
ReplyDeleteKudos to his mom, though, for treating him and his needs with the respect he deserves.
First off, boys with DS generally are sterile; or if not entirely, then i think there's only been like, 2 recorded cases where male with DS have fathered children.
ReplyDeleteI too, am torn over this. I just can't help feeling creepy about it. Not that a man with DS has normal sexual urges, but that his mother is sending him the wrong message. He says quite simply he wants to meet a girlfriend because he wasnts to have lots of sex; is that all? Having a meaningful relationship and getting your rocks off are two very different things.
Also, the mum also says that she doesn't want him to get involved with a female with DS. Now, i don't know a great deal when it comes to DS, but wouldn't it be better if he forged friendships that could lead to relationships with both other people with DS, and "normal" people and see which he gets along with best?
I think it's kind of sweet that his mum is trying to let him experience all of life's pleasures, but i can't help but feel she's not quite going about it the right way.
Years ago I worked with a man who was in his mid-30's. He was the office messenger, & very slow.
ReplyDeleteHe had an obvious disability.
He would have done ANYTHING to meet a girl, everytime one of my friends or sister came up, he would very nicely hit on them.
He lived with his widowed mother who encouraged him to go to singles events in NYC, not the event geared towards individuals like himself.
I always felt bad for him. I don't think she wanted him to meet anyone he could actually have a relationship with & move out.
As I mom of a 15 yo boy with a genetic syndrome and mental retardation, I think I have some insight here.
ReplyDeleteThis mom has her heart in the right place -- that she wants her son to have as normal a life as possible. However, most normal lives do not involve hiring prostitutes for sex. This mom needs to help her son do what most men do, meet women at social activities, and date them until they know if they'd like to get married.
Our son has told us that he wants to get married and have children when he grows up. While he's probably sterile, if our son finds a girl and they would like to be married, we will support him in that.
I'm just going to answer the question in the heading - No. No I would never purchase a woman for my son's sexual use. I would never, no matter the circumstances or the state of my son, belittle a woman to something I buy. I would never want to degrade a person like that.
ReplyDeleteI think it's sick. I can't believe she would think of this and then actually tell the world what she plans to do. Has she no respect for other women or her own son? Isn't his sexual life private for God's sake?!
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ReplyDelete"Isn't his sexual life private for God's sake?!"
ReplyDeleteThanks for pointing that out Littleoleme! Very true.
i don't think it's really a bad thing that she's trying to help her kid get laid, just don't be so vocal about it. put him on the plane to amsterdam with his friends and be done with it. i think the reason why it's easy to jump her rear about it is because it comes off like she's exploiting the situation instead of just doing it.
ReplyDeleteAnd if he's gay, then what? Does she ring up Pete Doherty and see what he's up to this weekend?
ReplyDeleteAs others have said her heart is in the right place but she is going about it the wrong way. There is nothing "normal" about hiring a prostitute. She should go about getting him involved in various activities, networking sites, whatever, where he can meet lots of other people. Even if he didn't meet a future wife or girlfriend he'd likely make lots of friends which can be just as fulfilling in its own way.
I hope his mom has taught him to masturbate (Hey, we're on the subject). This would help relieve tension until he finds a gal. Seems that would be a better solution, unless of course she's Catholic. ;)
ReplyDeletekimpim, I don't think Catholics believe in prostitutes or even pre-marital sex, for that matter.
ReplyDeleteyes, I know. Twas a joke ;)
ReplyDeleteThou shalt not do anything.
littleoleme - thats EXACTLY how I feel. ´How on earth will your son be able to respect women when you are teaching him its ok to buy them?
ReplyDelete... women disrespect themselves - more than 90 percent of the *content* on Ent L.'s blog shows proof that most, if not all Hollywood actresses/female singers are 'JUST' "Em"gnorant, self-loathing wh0res...
ReplyDelete... *that* "said"... I don't support *prostitution*... but pity sex is worse than "patronized" sex... that is... buying the poor DS guy a WH0RE is BETTER than having some psycho slut come over to bust his nut because she feels "sorry" for him. At least a WH0RE is a professional and won't give the kid the wrong idea that she's riding him because she actually "likes" him. Obviously no "normal" girl is ever going to fall in love with and get naked w/ a DS guy...and sad as it is, the dude will never have a "normal life" otherwise. So the best thing for him (being he's male and has sexual "urges") is to buy the kid a "prosthithute"... and hopefully not a drugged-up/street-cornah crack 'ho nick-named "Shugah Thmaxx" who's missin' teef and "tawks" w/ a listhp.